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Category:History of college tennis in the United States

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. Liz Read! Talk! 03:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete entire tree. Only one category in each and all for one article. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:13, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom, not opposed to recreation if there were enough content to support it. Mason (talk) 23:34, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Women in war in the Middle East

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Women in war in the Middle East to Category:Women in war in West Asia. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:17, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge or reverse merge, and keep a redirect, the Middle East and West Asia are very overlapping. I have tagged both categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:45, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/reverse merge. I agree that they need to be combined. I don't have an opinion about the direction. Mason (talk) 23:35, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Category:Women in war in West Asia to maintain consistency with other subcategories under Category:Women in war in Asia. Sakakami (talk) 05:29, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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17th-century lighthouses

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:17, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, these are single-article isolated categories, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:51, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ancient Jewish Greek history

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Hellenistic Jewish history. (non-admin closure) Cremastra (talk) 20:47, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Current category name is clunky and also vague. The topic here is Hellenistic Jewish history in the classical period, while the "ancient period" is vaguer – also encompassing earlier periods. Proposed name says more with fewer words. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:01, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Hellenistic Judaism already exists. What would be the distinction between that and Category:Hellenistic Jewish history? I feel like a merge might make more sense here. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:05, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
From what I can tell, that category is about religion and is a subcategory of this one, which is about the history of the people. Mclay1 (talk) 12:09, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's about the sum of it. Iskandar323 (talk) 15:40, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Power Book IV: Force characters

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Liz Read! Talk! 02:39, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only contains one article, which is already present in Category:Power (TV series) characters. (Oinkers42) (talk) 16:47, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ethically disputed practices

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The result of the discussion was: delete it and the tagged subcategories. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:36, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This, as well as all subcategories of this category beginning with "ethically disputed", should be deleted per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. The fact is that almost any practice can have a dispute as to its ethics - for example, if I have a sandwich, I can be committing the ethical sins of eating meat, GMO food, and food made by poorly-paid workers, as well as paying companies making unhealthy processed food. If I use toilet paper in the bathroom I could be doing the ethically debated practice of putting pollution in the water supply and wasting water. There's no end to it and it's wholly subjective. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:11, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Category:Ethically disputed business practices can be kept and renamed to Category:Unfair business practices instead, per its main article, which would be more accurate and eliminate the subjectivity of the current name. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:19, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Counts in the Holy Roman Empire

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Counts in the Holy Roman Empire to Category:Counts of the Holy Roman Empire (i.e. forward merge). Clear consensus in favor of a single category; one late objection which was not elaborated on after a request does not change that consensus favored a merge. That brings us to the direction of a merge. Marcocapelle supported a reverse merge, but this was a self-declared slightly prefer[ed] outcome. Given that Mason and Mclay1 both supported a forward merge, with no policy/guideline weighting to be done here, there is consensus for a forward merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Extremely overlapping categories. If the solution is to keep "in" instead of "of" then we should merge and then rename back to preserve the history. See [[1]] for a discussion about the merits of renaming the original versus the creation of a duplicate. Mason (talk) 13:48, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Mclay1's comment?
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Category:WikiProject Shaktism

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:WikiProject Hinduism articles. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:37, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Defunct task force; category only contains an articles subcat. – Fayenatic London 08:14, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: After this discussion was started, the category was renamed to Category:Shaktism task force and de-tagged by JJMC89 bot III. I will re-tag the category.
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Category:The Thundermans

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Cremastra (talk) 21:33, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Need at least half a dozen members for a category or template to be useful, which is not the case here. Created by an overzealous user. Amaury • 08:46, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Amaury WP:SMALLCAT is not longer a policy. Mason (talk) 13:52, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seems like such a silly decision to no longer make it so, but at this point, it is what it is since it's already happened. It doesn't seem like it was replaced with anything else or like an equivalent guideline/policy exists, that I can find. So, can anyone just make any category or template under the sun now? Genuine question. Amaury • 17:40, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - WP:OC still has plenty of limits on what categories should be made; the depreciation of WP:SMALLCAT just means that the fact that a category can only have a small number of things in it is no longer an exclusionary rationale in itself. Alphius (talk) 04:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Then I guess WP:NARROWCAT would be the next best one to file this under. Getting rid of SMALLCAT as a guideline/policy was still a poor decision, in my opinion. Amaury • 17:46, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Amaury: WP:NARROWCAT is about narrow intersections. This category is not an intersection. jlwoodwa (talk) 16:31, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@QuantumFoam66: Could you clarify what you mean by this? What is redundant? jlwoodwa (talk) 16:30, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The former guideline of WP:SMALLCAT. Redundant means no longer needed. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 19:48, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: those three redirects were removed from the category during this CFD, which I reverted. jlwoodwa (talk) 16:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Personal care companies

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:38, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There's a very large overlap among companies doing business in cosmetics and personal care, merging them into a single category tree would be much easier to navigate and maintain. If the proposal looks like it has a chance, I'll come back in a day to properly tag the subcategories. Done now. Paul_012 (talk) 08:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC), updated 09:55, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Comments in general would be appreciated :)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same request: Comments in general would be appreciated :)
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Category:Thraco-Macedonian mythology

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Liz Read! Talk! 02:37, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This doesn't appear to be any different to its subcategory. I cleaned up the contents and everything ended up in there so it's otherwise empty. I can't find any evidence that the term "Thraco-Macedonian mythology" exists. No need to upmerge. Mclay1 (talk) 14:15, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Minyan mythology

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:38, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge unnecessary category layer. The category name implies that it's for mythology of the Minyan people rather than what it actually is, which is Greek mythology relating to the Minyans. Most of the articles are in the subcategory Category:Minyans. Mclay1 (talk) 12:33, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note to closer: The target is nominated for renaming to Category:Mythology of Boeotia below. Mclay1 (talk) 12:39, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Greek mythology by region

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 14#Greek mythology by region

Category:Paeonian mythology

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:37, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: All but one of these articles (Amydon) are for mythological Paeonian people in Greek mythology. The current name makes it sound like it's for the local mythology of the Paeonian people. Reparent to somewhere in Category:Mythological people by nationality, and the one article that doesn't fit can be purged. Mclay1 (talk) 11:26, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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People of Middle Eastern descent

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 13#People of Middle Eastern descent

Category:People from Karabakh

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The result of the discussion was: soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the category's undeletion. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:15, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The region of Karabakh has rather imprecise boundaries. Most people from Karabakh do not fall into this category, as they are already classified under more specific categories. Sakakami (talk) 07:49, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Student farms

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Agricultural education. Liz Read! Talk! 02:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one page in it, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 00:38, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Readers

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 13#Category:Readers

Category:History of medical education

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Medical education. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:10, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. This category is underpopulated and neither of the pages are really about the history of medical education. Mason (talk) 00:35, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Environmental organizations by region

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Liz Read! Talk! 02:32, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category only contains one page, but the name implies that it should be a container for specific regions. Mason (talk) 00:24, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Electronic waste in Nigeria

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:11, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. These categories only has one page in it, which isn't helpful for navigation. The only page in Electronic waste in Ghana is already in Electronic waste in Africa Mason (talk) 00:21, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Forestry researchers

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The result of the discussion was: purge of non-academics and then merge to Category:Forestry academics. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:18, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think we should merge these two categories; they're highly overlapping. Mason (talk) 00:14, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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