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15 June 2010[edit]

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Atlético Peruano (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

This article was kept because it was deemed notable under the claim that it was national league runner-up of 1915. However this team never played in the national league (1966-present) and never played in the professional league (1951-present). Therefore, in addition to the arguments listed on the AfD page, this team is not notable. MicroX (talk) 23:29, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The claim is the national tournament, whether that is the same as a national league I guess is a question. That was referenced but I've just removed the reference since following the link evokes warnings of malware from Firefox and Avast. --82.7.40.7 (talk) 06:24, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse as accurate interpreation of deletion discussion. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 15:52, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse – There were no arguments for deletion aside from the nominator. I don't see how this could have been closed any other way. Also, in the future, please try and discuss the AFD closure with the closing admin first – something which you did not do. That may sometimes save a trip here. –MuZemike 23:15, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – but there were also no valid arguments against my nomination. Atletico Peruano never played in the national league which was the reason why the users GiantSnowman and Eldumpo believed it should be kept. Ok, next time I'll let the admin know; sorry about that. --MicroX (talk) 23:20, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse this closure, since it was entirely in accordance with the consensus.—S Marshall T/C 23:41, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok checklist...
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WMEJ (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

Non-admin closed as "snowball keep" but the keep !votes were all of the form WP:ILIKEIT - the WP:BROADCAST inclusion guideline is just that: a guideline describing the kinds of subjects that will get non-trivial coverage. The article has no non-trivial independent sources and never has had, the sources are exclusively primary, including a record in a database of radio stations (see WP:DIRECTORY for why we don't mirror directories). I'd have no problem at all with a rewrite to add sources but this is a situation where a pile-on vote of people who think every radio station is inherently notable, appears to override the much wider consensus that articles must have non-trivial reliable independent sources. I did propose that we remove the "Wikipedia is not a directory" clause since in areas like schools and ice hockey it appears that we are a directory. This looks like yet another attempt to set up a corner of Wikipedia which is a directory. Guy (Help!) 07:56, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Admin is wasting the community's time. This was a snow keep from the very beginning and Guy is guilty of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. All radio stations (be them AM, FM, or LP) and television stations (be them full or low power) are notable and this has been held up by several AfD and countless admins on the case. Sorry if Guy (a Brit) doesn't think an American radio station station is notable and doesn't want to follow consensus, but where is there is there. This is a waste of the community's time and should be marked resolved per the AfD. - NeutralHomerTalk08:11, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it.
Steve Mckinnon (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (restore)

I was told that i had copied and pasted what had been deleted before where each time. where i had actually edited it each time only small changes each time but was hoping to get help from the admin each time on where it was wrong if if it was write. i was also told by the admin that it looked like i was writting it on myself. you would hope that i would know more about myself then this or some one that i was conected with. i was also told it looked suspect as i had never edited anything before and now i was writting this. doesnt everyone have to start some where ? Trupwr (talk) 06:33, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • This user has been asked several times not to keep reposting the same promotional text, but has done nothing else. I have tried engaging with him but he does not seem interested in discussing the issues with the content, only in reposting it, verbatim, time after time. Just taking "still going strong" off "Training from 4 years old with Shotokan Karata, reaching Black belt then started fighting kickboxing at age 16 now 32 and still going strong" does not actually fix the problem! Guy (Help!) 07:50, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why don't you work on the draft copy and let us know when it's ready? WP:NCHD is a great place to get help. Stifle (talk) 08:38, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

the draft copy is ready Trupwr (talk) 12:09, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm afraid the one source in the article doesn't meet the requirements of WP:N or WP:BIO. Do you know of any newspaper coverage or other coverage of this person? If not, it's not going to make it here... Hobit (talk) 03:05, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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