User:Stifle deleted it under NFCC#1 indicating that the image could be recreated in a Free form from a Blazon of the Coat of Arms. He did so without showing that such a Blazon existed, or that creating Blazon for it would not represent WP:OR. No change was made to either the Acacia Fraternity page or its talk page prior to the deletion. Naraht (talk) 18:33, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse own deletion. The blazon clearly exists if there was a crest/coat of arms drawn from it, and the file description page was tagged for over four months as replaceable. The file description also lacked a proper source. Stifle (talk) 19:10, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
They have a blazon *if* all the relationship between all of the pieces is public. Let's say that a Fraternity Coat of Arms has a shield has 7 stars on it in the center. The fraternity has copyrighted that particular design, but the information on the relationship of the stars is only present in the image. In actuality, the stars are in the same geometrical shape as the 7 chapters that came together to form the fraternity, *but* that information is not public. All the blazon would contain would be that there are seven stars on the shield, *not* the relationship between them since that information is not public. (For a real world example, consider the method by which Brazil puts stars on its flag. If that were private, not public, it would be impossible to properly reproduce without directly refering to the image.Naraht (talk) 02:08, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree there is a conventional blazon for Acacia Fraternity (I can't find blazons for most fraternities) There is also an exact version of the Coat of Arms which has been trademarked (unable to put exact URL, but at www.uspto.gov, search for acacia and fraternity). Would a user created blazon which did not match that be incorrect?Naraht (talk) 10:38, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
