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6 January 2014[edit]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Album Network Expando Tuneup 24 (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (article|XfD|restore)

Notability - the justification for non-notability is nonsense. The people taking part in the discussion obviously had no understanding of the notability of the article. Just because an article is not notable to you, does NOT make it non notable. Sa cooke (talk) 05:35, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - This was just discussed as a declined request for undeletion; I suggested to Sa cooke that if he thought the consensus in the AfD linked above was incorrect, he could take it to DRV; or alternatively, recreate the article with reliable sources presenting significant coverage to establish notability. The deleted article consisted entirely of an infobox and a track listing with no references. ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  05:40, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment the nominator is concerned that the non-notable comments were subjective. Wikipedia however tries to avoid that and make notability objective, not the subjective view of wikipedia editors but if there has been significant coverage in third party, independent, reliable sources. This is why the !votes in the AFD say they couldn't find coverage. To overcome that we need these sources. Do you have any of those? --86.5.93.42 (talk) 07:05, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - just the same point again - The article was entirely unsourced; write a new article demonstrating notability, and the old AfD wouldn't apply. Restore this article (which has minimal content), and it would just get deleted at AfD again anyhow. WilyD 09:50, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse Closer appropriately read consensus, with not a single "keep" !vote and policy-based "delete" !votes. --Randykitty (talk) 13:04, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse unanimous AFD and no new information presented. "The people taking part in the discussion obviously had no understanding of the notability" is veering rather dangerously close to attacking other contributors, which isn't acceptable at DRV. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 16:28, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse DRV should not be used to review ancient deletion discussions. When an editor returns to the project after a 6-year hiatus they may find things are a bit different, i.e. the threshold for what does and what does not pass our notability criteria has become much, much higher. The user should become familiar with the new standards, request userfication to work on these old articles, and proceed from there. They should not return directly to article-space. Tarc (talk) 18:04, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Yes - I accept that a six year hiatus is a long while and standards will have changed in that time. I certainly agree that there was not enough in the original article, however what I'm asking for is that the article be undeleted so I can add to it. I have no idea what userfication is, but it sounds like something that allows me to work on the article until it meets the new notability requirements (which I am sure will be met) and then made public. This would be an acceptable solution for me. Sa cooke (talk) 23:09, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.