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24 January 2024[edit]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
List of free Epic Games Store games (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

The page was deleted in 2019. While it looks like this decision was legit back then, currently there're enough sources to re-consider notability of this standalone list.

  • PC Gamer (reliable source according to WP:VG/S) is maintaining a similar list, keeping it up-to-date for almost 4 years. TechRadar and Rock Paper Shotgun (also reliable sources) had such lists as well; these aren't updated as frequently, but still grant notability per WP:NLIST ("The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been"). Additionally, Game Rant (situational source, okay for non-controversial areas) hosts an alphabetical list of games that were free on the Epic Games Store, split by year.
  • So far, the media covered every single individual giveaway. For instance, most recent Love giveaway was covered by IGN, Gry Online, Igromania, among some other sources that are not presented in WP:VG/S (yet?), but are considered reliable in other wikis, like Kanobu (reliable source per Russia Wikipedia's ru:WP:АИКИ). Keep in mind that Love is a small indie title, so it was the EGS giveaway that brought media attention, not the game itself. Such news articles might provide additional sources and disambiguation.
  • Some sources published additional analysis: PCGamesN in 2020 evaluated total price of free games, The Verge and Polygon analyzed the documents that were published during the Epic Games v. Apple lawsuit in 2021 and evaluated the price Epic Games paid per user. Might be a nice addition to the page.

You can get the general idea of how the list might look like by visiting Russian version of this list.

I also want to address one of the Masem's reasonings: "because these are free for a limited time, it really doesn't help anyone after the fact". While evaluating helpfulness is not a valid argument (WP:USELESS), I do agree that the title of the page was misleading. I'd rename it to "List of Epic Games Store giveaways". If you have another title idea, feel free to suggest it. Cheers. Facenapalm (talk) 17:48, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • This seems pretty uncontroversial. As the original deleting admin, I've restored this to draft. I have no opinion on whether it qualifies for mainspace, but there's certainly no reason not to treat this as WP:REFUND. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoySmith (talkcontribs) 18:21, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think it's still clearly inappropriate - WP:CATALOGUE applies - but if it's been refunded, this can probably be closed. SportingFlyer T·C 00:52, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.