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John Oliver

John William Oliver (born 23 April 1977) is a British-American comedian, writer, producer, political commentator, actor, and television host. He has received seventeen Primetime Emmy Awards and two Peabody Awards for his time as Senior British Correspondent on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart from 2006 to 2013 and for hosting the late-night news satire show Last Week Tonight with John Oliver since 2014.

John Oliver

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Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption

Contributor(s): MyCatIsAChonk

Recently got all to FA/FL status and think they all fit in a FT. The inclusion of Our Lady is similar in reasoning to the inclusion of Appian Way Productions in the Leonardo DiCaprio FT; Oliver is the legal founder of Our Lady, and so it fits in his topic just like Leonardo was the legal founder of Appian Way. I'm open to discussion, if anyone disagrees- thanks! --MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 00:43, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support and here's hoping a Last Week Tonight topic can be made some day. igordebraga ≠ 19:49, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

  Absolutely agree- the LWT article isn't in great shape, so a complete overhaul would be one hell of a project, but I hope to get to it soon (possibly with the help of fellow LWT enthusiasts!)- thank you! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:13, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

• I find it a little strange for this topic to not include Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, the show with his name on it, which he is the sole person in, and which at this point is the thing he's most well-known for. In the absence of a "filmography" list, I think it needs to be here. --PresN 14:12, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption was just segments on Last Week Tonight – how can that possibly be more intrinsic to a topic about John Oliver than the show starring John Oliver itself? I'm with PresN here. Reywas92^Talk 14:52, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

  @Reywas92, Our Lady was not a segment; it was a legally recognized church founded under Oliver's name. If Appian Way Productions, the production studio founded by DiCaprio, is to be included in the DiCaprio topic, then its inclusion here is appropriate. As for @PresN's point: there has never been a show/film included in a bio topic, but then again, a TV host has never been promoted to FT/GT. Do you strongly feel that the LWT article should be in the topic? MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 15:51, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

  I'm not saying it's wrong to include this, but if there's a topic on John Oliver that includes things that were created specifically for the show and then closed just a month later having been on a couple more segments, then the show should be included too as even more relevant to the topic. If LWT had its own topic this would fall under that too, so this basically skips a level. DiCaprio has been involved with Appian Way for two decades, this was a church for a month. Reywas92^Talk 16:34, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

  For an actor bio topic, while I'd expect any "filmography" article to be in there (e.g. Leonardo DiCaprio filmography), I wouldn't expect articles on films they starred in. Similarly, I wouldn't expect The Daily Show to be here- John Oliver was in it, yeah, but it's not tied to him personally any more than Titanic is to Leonardo. Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, on the other hand, is tied to him in a way TDS isn't. It's his show, with his name in the title, and with 10 seasons it's not a minor role but more of his defining project. --PresN 20:25, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

  Fair then- withdrawing nomination MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 20:42, 25 September 2023 (UTC)