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Nominator(s): Aszx5000 (talk) 11:56, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because this is a comprehensive list of equipment for the discipline of rock climbing. While individual elements of rock climbing equipment will change/evolve, the essence is quite stable. Rock climbing is now a new Olympic Sport, so I think this area will get even more attention in the future. I had proposed it as a GA but the recommendation was that the article was more of a list, which is correct, and that it would be a good suggestion as an FL per Talk:Rock-climbing equipment/GA1. thank you. Aszx5000 (talk) 11:56, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by RunningTiger123

This review will take me a little while – feel free to ping me if I go more than a few days without following up.

  • Images need alt text
 Done
  • "And finally" → "Finally,"
 Done
  • The lead lists modern devices with the older devices they replaced – where is this information supported in the body? For instance, I see no mention of chockstones after the lead.
 Done, I have mentioned chockstones in the body, where they were replaced by nuts.
  • Not technically wrong, but the list has a tendency to overuse parentheses; some of them can be reworked
    • Example: Under Type of climbing, "and its X variant" doesn't need parentheses
 Done, hopefully that is better now.
    • Another example: The second paragraph of Ropes (starting with "Some climbers will use...") has 4 sets of parentheses in one sentence. This ends up feeling really choppy.
 Done, and agree, hopefully better now.
  • Per MOS:ACRO1STUSE, write out acronyms where they first appear: UIAA, CEN, OSHA, maybe CE marking?
 Done, CE marking is the actual name here.
  • "in lieu CEN" → "in lieu of CEN"
 Done
  • "which are (circa 7–8 mm)" – misuse of parentheses
 Done
  • "(or 'tape')," – no comma needed
 Done

— RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:50, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delighted that you are willing to help @RunningTiger123. This is (clearly) my first attempt at Featured article status. I have a few GAs under my belt and I think I am writing at a reasonable GA standard, but have little concept of FA stardard, but if you are up for it, I would love to learn and happy to spend time on this with you at whatever pace you prefer. thanks again :) Aszx5000 (talk) 13:02, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More comments:

  • "European European Committee for Standardization" – redundant
 Done
  • "e.g. the asymmetric/offset D-shape is the most common" – misuse of "e.g."
 Done
    • "e.g." means "for example" – if you substitute "for example" in place of "e.g." and it doesn't make sense, you're using the wrong phrase
understand thanks,
  • "(and materials used)" – no need for parentheses
 Done
  • "e.g. they require little in the way of gear-carrying loops" – another misuse of "e.g."
 Done
  • "e.g. to fit around heaving winter clothing" – same thing
 Done
 Done
  • First paragraph under Belay devices is unsourced
 Done
  • "e.g. a static rope that is hanging from a fixed anchor" – another "e.g."
 Done
  • "Petzel Traxion" – typo for Petzl
 Done
  • "Petzel Micro Traxion, and Camp Lift" – no comma needed, also same typo?
 Done
  • "SCLDs" – should be SLCDs? (occurs twice)
 Done
  • "like a Hex" – use lowercase for consistency
 Done
  • Don't hyphenate "bolt-hangers" for consistency
 Done
  • "stands one on aider" – I think this should be "stands on one aider"?
 Done
  • "Rock climbing hammers are mainly used..." – bullet point doesn't follow the same opening format as all of the others
 Done
  • A lot of bullet points under Miscellaneous equipment are unsourced
 Done, I also added one extra item, the Knee pad, which is a commonly used piece of equipment
  • "is used by all rock climbers" – all is a strong word, so it either needs to be clearly sourced or removed
 Done, changed to "is very popular amongst rock climbers"
  • Remove comma after parentheses for medical tape
 Done
  • Suggest archiving web sources (see WP:IABOT)
checking this.

— RunningTiger123 (talk) 00:45, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RunningTiger123, thanks for those comments. I have made all of the changes but I am not sure I understand the last one re WP:IABOT? My understanding is that that bot runs automatically, or am I meant to run it? thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 10:08, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You can run IABot on demand here – it's not required but it can be nice to include. Also, I think you missed the "e.g. a static rope..." comment above, but I don't think it's worth waiting to support over that. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that, have fixed the "static rope" now, and I will run the IAB. Thanks so much for your help and comments on this. Aszx5000 (talk) 09:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just ran the IABot as well - wasn't aware of that. Thanks again. Aszx5000 (talk) 09:14, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support – RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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