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    Are you an administrator of Wikipedia? Couldn’t find you on the list. 48JCL TALK 21:16, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    No, see Wikipedia:Role of Jimmy Wales#Founder flag for an explanation. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 23:29, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Short fiction in the form of a WP talkpage discussion, from Nature. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I was looking around and came across your message. I think the story's format is cool. Necatorina (talk) 22:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The ADL is "generally unreliable"

    Due to a new RSN discussion [1] (I just became aware of it), the Anti-Defamation League, one of the oldest and most prominent civil rights organizations, has been declared "generally unreliable" on Israel/Palestine issues. The ADL issued a statement saying this was the result of a ”campaign to delegitimize the ADL” and that editors opposing the ban “provided point by point refutations, grounded in factual citations, to every claim made, but apparently facts no longer matter.” This is being disseminated on the JTA, and is starting to be picked up by Israeli and Jewish newspapers. A pretty strong statement by the ADL, which tends to be fairly circumspect, and not exactly a ribbon in the hair of Wikipedia or the Foundation. Coretheapple (talk) 13:55, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • In that discussion - which I didn't take part in and am therefore reading for the first time - I certainly do not see "point by point refutations, grounded in factual citations, to every claim made". This is ironic because that suggests that they have responded to a survey that found their output to contain significant misleading claims, with a statement that is ... well, misleading at best. Black Kite (talk) 14:12, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Whatever. It would be interesting to see if the ADL uses its formidable resources (which I believe exceed the WMF's) into an effort to demonstrate that Wikipedia is the "generally unreliable" source. We shall see. What is the emoticon for "popcorn"? Coretheapple (talk) 15:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      not like people already think wikipedia isn't an unreliable source. ltbdl (talk) 16:28, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Well, that's a possibility. But in the end, like every single other political hot-button issue, if people are told things that they want to believe, they will believe them, regardless of whether those things are factual. Black Kite (talk) 18:23, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    CNN staff article: "Wikipedia now labels the top Jewish civil rights group as an unreliable source," so it has emerged from the "Jewish news" silo I mentioned earlier. However we all will be delighted to know that this is viewed as a slam on ADL's reputation, not Wikipedia's. Coretheapple (talk) 20:18, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]