Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/24 October 2011/PornstarGlobal
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| Article | PornstarGlobal |
| Status | closed |
| Request date | 06:46, 24 October 2011 (UTC) |
| Requesting party | Solidcontrib (talk) |
| Comment | Closed as moot, article deleted at AfD; will leave note for listing editor at his talk page about remaining conduct questions. |
Request details
[edit]Where is the dispute?
[edit]Who is involved?
[edit]What is the dispute?
[edit]As far as I can see, Users: Morbidthoughts and Nymf had some previous issues with an individual allegedly spamming links to PornStarGlobal.com over 3 years ago. I might add that the individual was never proven to be connected to them as stated by a Wikipedia Administrator. I myself have no connection to any of these individuals, but have been repeatedly accused of such by Morbidthoughts. I began to make simple references to PornStarGlobal through valid and notable Wikipedia Articles such as [3] and [4]. As you can see, they are literally undoing my edits as I make them, almost in a vandalistic fashion. As I have stated to them previously, I cannot help that they have a personal issue with this site, and advised them that letting their anger or dislike for said site not influence their decision making. The [5] Article has been thriving and had no issues until once again it was nominated for deletion by Morbidthoughts. Please keep in mind that there was never any linkage pointing to PornStarGlobal on this Article at any time, which was apparently their issue before. PornStarGlobal's Web Presence and notability is immense, but I just now found these as well [6], [7], and [8]. I would not only kindly as for Mediation, but also for some direction on how to stop this continued harassment. Thank you Solidcontrib (talk) 06:46, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
What steps have you already taken to try and resolve the dispute?
[edit][9]. In addition, Morbidthoughts has just now undone my edit and claims that my peaceful attempt at Mediation is once again an effort to promote a Website with an Article that contains no links to said Website. I feel this is enough evidence of what I claim. Please see: [10] He / they have never had an issue with any of my other Contributions for the record.
Since asking for mediation and being accused of Spamming as per above, I then received the first and only professional response / attempt at explanation from Morbidthoughts here [11]. Admirable if sincere, but this is obviously an attempt to offset what has been done unfortunately. To answer his question yet again, no I have no connection to anyone, anything, or any realm of this Website but the immediate need to delete any mention of it has sparked my interest and I wish to see this through. Solidcontrib (talk) 07:17, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
What issues needs to be addressed to help resolve the dispute
[edit]I feel that they truly believe what they are saying, but are so angered by the past experience, they are leaving no room for dialogue nor acceptance.
What can we do to help resolve this issue?
[edit]I make contributions as much as my free time allows and may not be as respected as most Editors, but am not fond of bickering and thought it best that Mediation become involved in some capacity. If there is another outlet more suited for this situation I will gladly visit that until resolved, if pointed in the right direction.
Do you realise that mediation requires an open mind, collaborating together in an environment of camaraderie and mutual respect, with the understanding that to reach a solution, compromise is required?
Mediator notes
[edit]Administrative notes
[edit]As the article is now at AfD, I think we should wait for the outcome of that discussion before deciding whether or not this dispute needs mediation. Notability is an important Wikipedia policy, and if the company does not pass the Wikipedia notability test then there is nothing that can be done to stop the article from being deleted, I'm afraid. I advise reading WP:N and WP:ORG carefully, and commenting at the AfD discussion based on that. Regards — Mr. Stradivarius ♫ 13:02, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]Thank you viewing this request Mr. Stradivarius ♫, I agree with your decision and am very curious as to how the AfD discussion will encourage Morbidthoughts to justify his acceptance of many other AVN and XBIZ references in numerous Articles including the Awards Section of [12] which clearly has both [13] and [14] listed as Notable Articles / References, but then states that "references are trivial and any coverage fails because AVN and XBIZ are of limited interest and circulation" when pertaining to PornstarGlobal [15]here: [16]. I might add that there are bountiful References Online in regard to PornStarGlobal some of which are / were listed on the Article, but not evident at all on Articles like: [17]. This appears to be the biased opinions of a few Editors that work closely together, opposed to honest evaluation and decision making along Wikipedia standards. Solidcontrib (talk) 18:03, 24 October 2011 (UTC)