Wikipedia:Peer review/Clarke Carlisle/archive2
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I've listed this article for peer review because… it is currently a Good Article and I am specifically looking for comments to take this article to FAC.
Thanks, -- BigDom 23:12, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Ruhrfisch comments: While this is generally well done, it needs come polish before FAC. Here are some suggestions for improvement.
- The most difficult FAC criterion for most articles to pass is 1a, a proffessional level of English. This could use a copyedit to tighten the prose and polish it in places. A few examples follow, all from the lead:
- The first two sentences have some issus Clarke James Carlisle (born 14 October 1979) is an English footballer, currently playing for Premier League side Burnley. He plays as a central defender. could be something like Clarke James Carlisle (born 14 October 1979) is an English footballer, playing as a central defender for Premier League side Burnley since August 2007. Combing the two sentences tightens the prose, and in general articles should avoid "currently' and similar words (as they can be come out of date quickly). I used the "since date" here, another possibility is "as of year".
- This sentence could also be tightened His professional career started with Blackpool and he made his Football League debut in September 1997. as either something like He made his Football League debut with Blackpool in September 1997. or if there needs to be a distinction made between the start of his career and his debut, then The start of his professional career was his Football League debut with Blackpool in September 1997. might work
- His birthpalce is mentioned in the lead, but not the body of the article. Since the lead is supposed to be a summary of everything in the article, this should be in both places. See WP:LEAD
- Make sure to provide context to the reader. For example would this be clearer if his height was added: An imposing figure in the centre of defence thanks to his 6-foot-2-inch (1.88 m) stature, Carlisle also provides an attacking threat from set pieces
- Another place that needs context is the quote box with "With the knowledge I have now, I realise it had been affecting my performance for a long time ... To be honest, I was scared." —Clarke Carlisle[9] Could that be attributed as something like "Clarke Carlisle oh his alcohol problem, in 2003[9]" to make it clearer what he is talking about and when. I think readers often look at the pictures and quote boxes before reading the rest of the article, so this helps there too (not just from its placement in the text)
- Early life is a bit sparse on details - do we know his mother's name? Does he have siblings? When did he start to play football? I realize some of this might not be known, but if it can be included, it should.
- OK, I wrote this as I read the article and now I see the Personal life section has the details I was looking for. I do not normally edit sport biography articles, so I am not sure if this is a standard model or not. I do think that the treatment for alcoholism has to be in two places, probably better just to put all the details in his Career section.
- Any idea when he married his wife? Or when his children were born (years)?
- Other than these I think this looks pretty good. The article mostly avoided jargon or explained it.
Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). I do not watch peer reviews, so if you have questions or comments, please contact me on my talk page. Yours, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 12:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)