Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 9

July 9

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 9, 2024.

World War 5

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:02, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

World War 5 → World War III (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
World War V → World War III (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Fifth World War → World War III (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

5th World War → World War III (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Ww5 → World War III (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not a helpful search term, no mention at target, and not likely to be a typo for somebody searching for World War III. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

the best argument i can think of is 5 being right over 2 in most pads. still not a typo you'd make without noticing. delete as implausible cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 19:15, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep:Delete: The primary reason for keeping these redirects in general would be the quote about World War V mentioned in the discussion linked to later in this comment. However, that quote seems to have since been removed from the article about World War III. Original: I created this redirect because World War V and Fifth World War already existed. If you were to propose deleting all of these redirects, then I would reconsider, but I think that keeping those while deleting World War 5 would be quite inconsistent. For reference, a similar discussion took place around "World War VI": Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 October 26#World War VI. –Gluonz^{talk contribs} 19:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC); edited 14:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I bundled in other redirects you've found. I don't think josh was suggesting that we only delete World War 5, but just haven't found the other similar redirects. Ca ^{talk to me!} 13:55, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

and delete them too, for the same reason cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ca: I have also found 5th World War (which currently redirects to World war#Potential Third World War) and Ww5 (which currently redirects to World war#Subsequent world wars). –Gluonz^{talk contribs} 21:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Ca ^{talk to me!} 11:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No mention of WW5 in the article, and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball Ca ^{talk to me!} 13:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all as not mentioned at target and misleading. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Should World War IIII (and similar redirects) be deleted as well? ~~WW4 isn't mentioned at the WW3 article either~~. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:44, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
World War IV is briefly mentioned three times in that article. Also, a film titled The Fourth World War exists, as does a work of the same name by Subcomandante Marcos. –Gluonz^{talk contribs} 18:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as no content about a fifth world war is mentioned at the target page and neither WW3 nor WW4 have happened yet. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 21:32, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Procedural, four out of five redirects were not tagged for discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:47, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all We'll cross that bridge when we get to it... if it's not a pile of radioactive rubble, at least. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Scared Silly

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 22#Scared Silly

Snuffleupagas

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The result of the discussion was keep. ✗plicit 23:39, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Snuffleupagas → Mr. Snuffleupagus (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete. The Snuffleupagus redirect already exists, but Mr. Snuffleupagas doesn't, and creating it just to justify the Snuffleupagas redirect may run the risk of reinforcing this particular misspelling. If a reader looking to read about Snuffy types "snuffleu" into the search bar, Snuffleupagus should be what appears in the resulting list, not the redundant Snuffleupagas. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 22:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as a plausible and unambiguous misspelling. Just tag it as a {{r from misspelling}} and move on. - Eureka Lott 02:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Very plausible misspelling. It actually took me well over a minute of staring and triple-checking to even notice where the error was-- I think it's like that famous "Paris in the the spring" test (because I and many people automatically sight-read the pronunciation, and the pronunciation matches pretty much perfectly here). Fieari (talk) 06:11, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as plausible misspelling. I've tagged it with {{R from misspelling}}. mwwv ^converse∫_edits 13:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Chhota Bheem 2

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 24#Chhota Bheem 2

The Halberd

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Jay 💬 15:35, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Halberd → Meta Knight (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

not entirely sure what makes this halberd that's only mentioned in passing in the target "the", as opposed to the weapon cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 20:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete not sure if there's a definite target for this redirect. Closest that I think is the The HMS Halberd which was an unlaunched Weapon-class destroyer. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as those searching for a halberd are unlikely to be adding a "the" prefix. This could potentially be renamed "The Battleship Halberd" or "Battleship Halberd" since the Halberd is a recurring location in the Kirby series that is highly associated with Meta Knight, thus making it a feasible search target. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as vague. Even ignoring generic uses, google finds content about specific halberds in at least three media franchises on the first two pages. Thryduulf (talk) 20:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or keep?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 21:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I don't find this vague-- searching for The Halberd on Google turns up two classes results-- the weapon and its existence both irl and in various video games like Elden Ring or Dark Souls (it may be capitalized in such links but it's literally just *a* halberd in those instances), and this fictional battleship and its appearances in the Kirby series and the Super Smash Bros series. (That doesn't count as two separate ships-- the Smash one is intended to *be* the Kirby one.) WP:DIFFCAPS is enough to establish that someone searching for "The Halberd" is probably not wanting to go to halberd the weapon, if the leading The wasn't a tip-off already. As for target, anyone looking for information on the Kirby Halberd is well-served by this redirect, which takes you to information on the ship's owner and main resident, and has information on the battleship itself. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 03:50, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Too vague. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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E.Π.Ε.Κ.

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The result of the discussion was Move to Ε.Π.Ε.Κ., redirect suppressed.. (non-admin closure) asilvering (talk) 04:12, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

E.Π.Ε.Κ. → National Progressive Center Union (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

First E is Latin, second is Greek. Delete per WP:MIXEDSCRIPT or (my preference) move to Ε.Π.Ε.Κ. without leaving a redirect. Nickps (talk) 21:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move per nom Implausible. No one is going to change their keyboard language to type the second E. Ca ^{talk to me!} 06:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ichtyol

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was retarget to Ammonium bituminosulfonate. (non-admin closure) asilvering (talk) 04:10, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ichtyol → Shiitake (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

this one, i don't understand. ichtyol seems to be either a type of medicine (or chemical?), a misspelling(?) of "ichthyol", which seems to be a fossil fish oil, or a brand of shampoo. none of those seem to be related to shiitake mushrooms. is there something i'm missing? cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 15:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, this can refer to water extracts of shiitake mushrooms, like here for example. However, that's an off-hand mention and the paper it cites does not refer to its shiitake extracts as ichtyol.[1] Neither does the paper it cites for the extraction methodology. [2] Other mentions of 'ichtyol' referring to Shiitake extracts I found are not reliable sources. My efforts here don't support adding a mention of ichtyol to Shiitake and the redirect should probably be deleted as there is no mention. ― Synpath 21:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For reference there is an article on Ichthyol: Ammonium bituminosulfonate ― Synpath 21:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Ammonium bituminosulfonate as closest potential target. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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mhm, retarget cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 11:56, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shiitake mashrooms

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The result of the discussion was keep. WP:CHEAP wins the day. (non-admin closure) asilvering (talk) 04:09, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shiitake mashrooms → Shiitake (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

implausible misspelling of "mushroom"? at the very best, i think someone could potentially mishear the "u" depending on the speaker's accent, but that doesn't seem very likely, and u and a are almost on opposite sides of the keyboard cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 15:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak~~ Keep - I'm calling this a potentially plausible search based on the fact that the Japanese pronunciation of "mushroom" is マシュルム, which would be transliterated "mashurūmu" but when spoken aloud sounds like "mashroom" (two of the "u"s are nigh-unvoiced). This is only relevant because "shiitake" is Japanese to begin with. The thing that makes it a stretch is that マシュルム, in Japanese, does not refer to shiitake, but only to (western style) button mushrooms... ~~so I'll leave this as a weak !vote.~~ Eh, redirects are WP:CHEAP anyway. Fieari (talk) 03:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Mashroom doesn't exist. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep per Fieari. To add on to Fieari, the misspelling is common enough to be included in this dictionary and this wikipedia article. The WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST argument is flawed since mushrooms in general is not affined to Japan, but Shiitake mushrooms do. Ca ^{talk to me!} 15:22, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strengthening my !vote above per your reference that this misspelling is attested in reliable sources related to the subject. Fieari (talk) 04:44, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wicked Ways Garbage song

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Jay 💬 15:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wicked Ways Garbage song → Wicked Ways (Garbage song) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Was missing parentheses. Seems unnecessary now that it has been moved to the correct Wicked Ways (Garbage song). Jameboy (talk) 12:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Per nom. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 18:28, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: the correct version exists. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep plausible search term. Also, why on earth did the nominator move a redirect, when it's valid to have redirects from more than one place to the same target article? Joseph2302 (talk) 08:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney(Episodes)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:40, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney(Episodes) → Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

malformed cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 17:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete it was at this title for a day and a bit in 2006. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:21, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No one would use this a search term.--67.70.101.117 (talk) 02:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:RDAB. — Godsy^(TALK_CONT) 17:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your Mileage May Vary

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 17#Your Mileage May Vary

Brown hat

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 16#Brown hat

The two Johns

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 16#The two Johns

This Might Be A Wiki

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 17#This Might Be A Wiki

Pignas

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 16#Pignas

Line 4 (Singapore MRT)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 11:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Line 4 (Singapore MRT) → North–South MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Line 5 (Singapore MRT) → North–South MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Line 6 (Singapore MRT) → North East MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Line 7 (Singapore MRT) → North East MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Line 8 (Singapore MRT) → Circle MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Line 9 (Singapore MRT) → Circle MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Line 10 (Singapore MRT) → Circle MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Line 11 (Singapore MRT) → Downtown MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Line 12 (Singapore MRT) → Downtown MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Line 13 (Singapore MRT) → Thomson–East Coast MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Line 14 (Singapore MRT) → Thomson–East Coast MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Proposing to Delete. Reiterating my rationale at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 15#Line 1 (Singapore MRT). These lines have never been referred to as Line 4, Line 5, etc, but rather directly by their names (Circle MRT line, Downtown MRT line etc). A quick Google search brings up the line numbers in order of their opening (For example, when I search for "Line 5 Singapore MRT", Google brings up Downtown MRT line, which was the fifth line to open in SG, as the first result). Given this, I find it to be an inaccurate search term at best, and if I were to go further, an invalid search term. S5A-0043^Talk 07:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The redirects were not tagged for RfD. Just did that.
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Notorious Software Patents

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 16#Notorious Software Patents

Acoustic punk

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 16#Acoustic punk

Moscow City

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 16#Moscow City

Mexican Avocado Dispute

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the redirect's undeletion. ✗plicit 11:31, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mexican Avocado Dispute → Avocado#Avocado-related international trade issues (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

there isn't anything in the article about a dispute and the section to which this links no longer exists. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:37, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment if this deleted, the link at Dispute settlement in the World Trade Organization#See also should be removed. Thryduulf (talk) 10:40, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The relevant portion of the target was removed in this February 2021 edit by Zefr with the rationale "trim outdated trade issues section", but the follow-up sections (including all the citations) that were present at the time of the redirect creation (this version) had been removed sometime previously. Thryduulf (talk) 10:55, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 22:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The North Caucasus

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 07:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The North Caucasus → North Caucasus (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Unnecessary redirect, recently created. Walsh90210 (talk) 23:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Harmless {{R from modification}}. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per above. Adding a "the" sounds very natural in this context to me, and is a plausible search term. Ca ^{talk to me!} 06:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Natural search expression. Oftentimes, the "the" is considered part of the name of something (like The Big Apple) which makes it useful to redirect. This easily feels like that sort of thing. Fieari (talk) 06:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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July 9

World War 5

Scared Silly

Snuffleupagas

Chhota Bheem 2

The Halberd

E.Π.Ε.Κ.

Ichtyol

Shiitake mashrooms

Wicked Ways Garbage song

Port Royal, Richmond County, Nova Scotia

Saint John Rivers

Super Nintend

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney(Episodes)

Your Mileage May Vary

Brown hat

The two Johns

This Might Be A Wiki

Pignas

Line 4 (Singapore MRT)

Notorious Software Patents

Acoustic punk

Moscow City

Mexican Avocado Dispute

The North Caucasus