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Google Street View – Canary Wharf, London

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Google Street View does not have images for Canary Wharf in London. I suspect that it's because the streets are actually on private property. Is this the case? I could be mistaken, but I'm almost sure that there were Street View images in the past. If so, were the subsequently removed? Thanks! —Nricardo (talk) 03:27, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Here's one person who wrote in 2014 that "Google Street View cars" were "not allowed in. For security reasons. I can’t say more". --69.159.62.113 (talk) 04:30, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
They're not all private streets, this implies that the A1206 road (Great Britain) (a public road) passes through Canary Wharf; though it should be noted that even THAT road lacks Street View data. --Jayron32 16:19, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If I remember rightly, you can't see much from that road, this is about as good as it gets. Alansplodge (talk) 12:02, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I found the street view very quickly. [[ https://www.google.com/maps/@51.50484,-0.02097,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipNNuAdjCh_WF4ZSm-gYdiPguYFn1hmgJkf3YOEC!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNNuAdjCh_WF4ZSm-gYdiPguYFn1hmgJkf3YOEC%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya109.53455-ro-0-fo100!7i8000!8i4000 ]]. DOR (HK) (talk) 15:39, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, there are a few, isolated frames you can see in Canary Wharf, and you've found one of the 3-4 you can see. However, what there isn't is a navigable street view for the region. If you check Street View, you'll easily find that all of the "blue lines" end at the boundaries of the neighborhood, and "pick up" on the other side, indicating that it is likely redacted from access. --Jayron32 15:44, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For some additional clarity there are a bunch of 360 photos [1] (often called photospheres) of Canary Wharf on Street View which seems to be what DOR (HK) linked to. While I think Google themselves sometimes do a photoshoot for these of significant locations (I'm not really sure how often though Editing Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous (section) - Wikipedia, I think in most cases the prefer classic street view with cycling or walking), all the ones I looked at including DOR (HK)'s one seem to be user contributed. You can see the name of the contributor on the top left under the location. While they are a useful addition to Street View, I don't think they're what most of people think of a Street View as they are single location photos. They're 360° so you can rotate around, but you can't move around except to photos in different locations. (Technically of course classic street view is just a bunch of photos, but with enough of them and enough post processing that you can move around fairly seamlessly.) That's why they show up as circles rather than lines. As they are user contributed and don't require that sophisticated equipment, they're also a lot harder to stop people taking although Google could exclude them from being shown even if contributed.

But Jayron32 is right that there it seems to suddenly stop on a bunch of the streets and continue at the other end. Perhaps more interestingly, there are two side streets mostly around construction work by their lonesome with normal street view imagery [2] [3] (these links are more complicated then they need to be, I was lazy to work out how to simplify them but others should feel free). While it is possible for these to be user contributed as well ([4]) it's says it comes from Google. Whether they used a car, a bicycle or even someone walking I don't know. However it does suggest there must be more imagery it has simple been excluded for whatever reason. Unless Google was specifically invited to film this street but forbidden from others. The exclusion of the public streets mentioned above, if correct, is also suggestive that they've excluded the imagery.

Nil Einne (talk) 13:15, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

BTW if anyone is wondering Bing's street side service has similar level of coverage although do show the A1206 in entirety including the roundabout [5]. That's a screen shot as I couldn't for the life of me work out how to get street side coverage on the web Bing Maps. Even on Microsoft Edge. You're welcome to try [6]. (So I gave up and used the Windows 10 app. I wonder if it has been disabled since I found this link [7] which shows an image but I can't seem to navigate within it only move around the image. Again I tried Edge, and also both navigation arrows and the map below.)

It seems like HERE WeGo/Yahoo Maps have removed their public street side coverage. At least I can't see it anywhere although I didn't look that hard especially since our article also says coverage is not available and their API docs [8] seem to have disappeared. I did happen to see a Here car on my street possibly about 2 years ago and it seems they are still [9] running them. But I think their data is intended for use for assistive and driverless car technologies and probably general mapping as much as anything. Given their ownership, not surprising. [10] suggests even when it was still available, the new imagery wasn't making it to the public front.)

Nil Einne (talk) 14:26, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Social programs in the United States

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[Redacted personal information]

Are these four girls consider to be poor? Are they entitled to Medicaid? Are they entitled to WIC or food stamps (and in what amount)? What other state or federal welfare programs they will benefit from? Emanuelox (talk) 20:09, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Emanuelox: Is this a homework question? You can see the official poverty income levels at Poverty_in_the_United_States. For a family of four, its $25,100 and [redacted]. See Medicaid#Eligibility for your other question RudolfRed (talk) 20:43, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I've redacted the details, as this may be for a real person. Possibly an admin might want to hide it from the history as well. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:21, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Totally imaginary people, so don't lose any sleep. RudolfRed - No, and thanks. Emanuelox (talk) 09:46, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Problem is, without the now-redacted info, we have no idea what the question is about. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 22:44, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You could repose the question with "Subject A", "Subject B", etc. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots08:44, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]