Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Diamond Joe Quimby

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User:Diamond Joe Quimby[edit]

Suspected sockpuppeteer

Diamond Joe Quimby (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

Report submission by

... discospinster _talk 15:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... WikiDon (talk) 21:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence

(From Discospinster)

Thomasalazar is a prolific contributor to articles about New Mexico subjects. While many of the contributions are useful, he has a habit of removing article maintenance tags, removing legitimate warnings from his talk page soon after they are placed, ignoring attempts to communicate, and leaving uncivil comments on others' talk pages. This habit appears to be afflicting other editors of New-Mexico-related articles.

Before any suspicion of sockpuppetry had occurred to me, I had logged a Wikiquette alert against Thomasalazar user in April: Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts/archive44#User:Thomasalazar. I later mention another user that I suspect of being a sock puppet (EVHS (NNYDL), who stopped editing after I brought it up).

The entry underneath it is from Diamond Joe Quimby making complaints against me. It is interesting to note that I had never come in contact with him/her prior to the Wikiquette alert being logged, leading me to believe that Thomassalazar is a sockpuppet of Diamond Joe Quimby (or vice versa).

Also, another user raised a Wikiquette concern about Diamond Joe Quimby just the day before mine here that indicates similar behaviour.

(From WikiDon)

I also accuse thomasalazar (talk · contribs) or resorting to sockpuppetry to remove tags:

75.88.237.163 here here here
76.113.50.208 See: History of talk page, BLOCKED: on 16:46, 23 May 2008 by Kinu (talk · contribs) (Block: 48 hours). He gets warned by multiple users and just removes, ignores, and goes on. ~
207.155.113.123 Used sockpuppet IP to vote on article for deletion here here and here. (along with IP 76.113.50.208)

If you look at the edit histories of both BradlyRM and Thomasalazar (as well as Diamond Joe Quimby, EVHS (NNYDL), Evhs00, and the IPs; at least 20 IPs that I know of) you will see 95% similarities in both pages edited and content of the edits. Both like to upload images of same high school sports and association logos. The both receive the same warnings about 1) images, 2) removing tags from articles, 3) warnings about reverting articles, and 4) etiquette.

Both handles start their pages in very similar fashion:

21:52, 10 February 2007 — Diamond Joe Quimby — (←Created page with ' Welcome To Diamond Joe Quimby's User Page Hello and welcome to my user page I am Diamond Joe Qui...')
03:01, 10 March 2008 — Martinez07 — (←Created page with 'Hi Eric Martinez is my name. questions...comments..? Help us by improving our community school EVHS')
16:16, 22 March 2008 — User:BradlyRM‎ — (←Created page with 'Hello My Name is Bradly')
04:08, 2 April 2008 — User:Thomasalazar — (←Created page with 'Hello I'am Thomas Salazar Nice to be on here at Wikipedia :])

Additionally, if you look at some of the edit time+date stamps you'll see a nice pattern:

25 & 26 April 2008

BradlyRM starts at 03:55 on the 25th and edits through until he gets warned by PMDrive1061 (talk · contribs) several times around 01:01 to 01:24, deletes warnings and retires at 01:45 of 26th

Thomasalazar starts at 18:13 on the 26th and stop at 19:26; and retires when he is warned by Discospinster‎ (talk · contribs)

28 April 2008

Thomasalazar starts at 00:33; removed a Wikiquette alert from discospinster (talk · contribs) and stops

BradlyRM starts at 02:03 and ends at 02:06

Thomasalazar starts at 02:16 and ends at 02:19

Neither accounts edits until - May 2

2 May 2008

BradlyRM starts at 00:30 and ends at 03:25

Thomasalazar starts at 03:36; Makes this interesting remark against discospinster (talk · contribs) and stops at 05:30

ETC, ETc, Etc, etc,.....

BradlyRM never edits again after this point on May 2.

Since accusing Thomasalazar of being a sockpuppet, he has stopped editing (last edit 15:46, 2 June 2008). ~ WikiDon (talk) 23:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Editing today under: 76.113.50.208 (talk · contribs). All edits revereted. IP4240207xx (talk) 02:44, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Today, 12 June:

Diamond Joe Quimby -> 03:31, 12 June 2008 to 04:06, 12 June 2008
76.113.50.208 -> 04:28, 12 June 2008 - to - 21:49, 12 June 2008
Thomasalazar -> 21:55, 12 June 2008 (Removed warnings from user page.)

Today's user compare. IP4240207xx (talk) 03:17, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Violations

Using sockpuppets to evade being banned for removal of tags and notices
Violating the Wikipedia three revert rule (3RR) by using sockpuppets
Violating the Wikipedia Civility rule
Wikipedia Sockpuppetry to evade a block
Changing his user name (PoliticianTexas (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)) to avoid this case and being banned

IP4240207xx (talk) 03:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC) ~ WikiDon (talk) 23:51, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Looking at the results of Usercompare, it seems very evident that Thomasalazar is a sock puppet of the primary account, I see 75 edits by it to Ben R. Lujan, 4 by User:Diamond Joe Quimby. The same with this article, User:76.113.50.208 has been also used quite a bit as well, as has User:75.88.237.163, User:207.155.113.123, and User:75.88.237.163 has also been used. I see a lot of combined edits by all the accounts, I'd add a link to the UserCompare results, but the tool seems to not be saving the results correctly. I can send the results to any administrator if they ask for them. Steve Crossin (talk)(email) 21:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't stop with Thomasalazar, please block:
Diamond Joe Quimby (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
BradlyRM (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
EVHS (NNYDL) (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Evhs00 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Martinez07‎ (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
::Thank you. IP4240207xx (talk) 02:44, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, lots of things going on here. Let me first say that I appreciate the several months of discretion and restraint by User:Discospinster who has been a model Admin in many ways. I also want to say that Thomasalazar is generally a benign but naive editor. He recently added a table itemizing every single state championship ever won by Los Alamos High School which was clearly lots of work. Mr. Salazar's big flaw is his stubborn insistence on his own way even in defiance of wikipedia convention and consensus. For instance, he keeps posting that copyrighted images of Sparky the Sundevil as if it were part of his school's logo. This type of activity is annoying for the people that have to deal with it. This needs to stop. But I believe that we can talk to him and make him a team player because I think that when he plays by the rules he does the community good.

I haven't (and won't) examine all of the umpteen alleged sock puppets. From what I've seen I believe that most of these probably are cases of sockpuppetry. Some cases may just be friends of Mr. Salazar or possibly other students from EVHS. I haven't had much experiences with sockpuppetry so I wouldn't know how to distinguish between the two. Greg Comlish (talk) 15:13, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I had a bad experience with the BradlyRM sock. In my experience, single-purpose accounts with one-track minds on obscure subjects of little general interest tend to be some of the most POV-pushing users on the site. He got all over my case for tagging for deletion a NN article about his school's rivalry with another. Greg hit it on the nose. The guy is generally benign, but woe onto he who reverts an edit of his. As far as distinguishing between the socks, it seems unlikely to me that he could recruit so many meatpuppets dedicated to topics on New Mexico and his high school. There's also a great deal of similarity on the user pages with the presidential candidate userboxes (some for John McCain, others for Barack Obama), the personal descriptions and the call to help the site. I don't want to see this guy banned per se, but if he stays, it's with the agreement that he sticks to a single account and stops with the POV-pushing and incivility. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 15:43, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PoliticianTexas:

This appears to still be open, so I think it's worth noting that today, Diamond Joe Quimby changed his username to PoliticianTexas. Anyone surprised that one of the first things he did post-rename was remove the sockpuppet warnings from his talk page?

PoliticianTexas (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Oh, and he once again nominated himself for bureaucratship (poorly), which has already been reverted. Dori (Talk • Contribs) 23:00, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

21 June

Back again with several new accounts:

AlbuCrazy‎ (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Joe Diamond Thomas (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
TexasPolitician (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
EVHSalazar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

New user name, same old sock puppet. ~ WikiDon (talk) 07:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
with additions by Dori (Talk • Contribs) 21:34, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
and again Dori (Talk • Contribs) 00:40, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Other IPs that have been used:

IP4240207xx (talk) 03:05, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Admission of Sock Puppetry:

This is good:

adds Sockpuppet tag to one of his sockpuppet accounts!

Does it again!

Translation: "Please ban me"

(at least I got a laugh out of those, and the request for adminship) ~ WikiDon (talk) 00:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Conclusions

Steve provided the results of the usercompare, and the editing patterns confirm that Thomasalazar is a sockpuppet of Diamond Joe Quimby. Thomasalazar has thus been indefinitely blocked by me (log). PeterSymonds (talk) 23:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC) Addendum Diamond Joe Quimby, now known as PoliticanTexas per a request for rename, has now been blocked indefinitely for sockpuppetry (log). Further intervention by a checkuser is probably unnecessary, but if further confirmation is needed then it's still open. PeterSymonds (talk) 21:27, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DJQ was renamed to PoliticianTexas. All the named accounts were confirmed at RFCU as socks of someone, so all are blocked and tagged. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:13, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]