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Wikigenerations: thirteen years later[edit]

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 Completed Excellent; this is in the August 15 issue. jp×g 18:01, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Inspired by Adam's recent article on finding and improving photos for biographies, I wanted to write a quick guide to finding and improving images for biology using a tool called [https://wikilovesinat.netlify.app/ Wiki Loves iNaturalist]. It has a lot of nice functionality that I encourage you to play with, but before we get on a mini-tutorial, let's do a round of before and after photos so you can see what it offers.

    • @Jengod, Bri, and JPxG: This is good. It could use more pix if it were to go in Gallery, but perhaps we could just make the the pix larger and that would satisfy everybody! The one thing I'm worried about actually has nothing to do with the pix or the writing. We had another article Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2020-08-02/Gallery in general about the same topic. But it wasn't so much of a "how to" article as this is, and it had 1200 page views, which is a lot better than when I select photos! So in general I recommend it, maybe even more along these lines. Smallbones(smalltalk) 18:16, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Smallbones I saw the previous article and actually started using WikiLovesInat bc of it but found that by focusing on sourcing images for fairly rare endangered animals I was coming up with many blanks bc almost no one had photos of "rare Peruvian shrew" much less ones that were free use. But then I started doing a series of stubs on west-coast-of-North-American gall wasps and realized WikiLovesiNat was a keystone to finding good photos for this moderately obscure kind of biology. This piece was my attempt to publicize this very useful tool I feel deserves more attention. Anyway thanks for looking. Appreciate it. jengod (talk) 19:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jengod: So, is it ready to publish. We have an hour or so to decide and make it so. Smallbones(smalltalk) 20:05, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Uh...sure. :) I just did another pass on the text and bumped up the multiple image baseline width to 500 and I was once told to never write in 2nd person, which I think this is, so yes, it's fine. YOLO. :) I'm a big girl and I think I can handle whatever comes next. it's totally up to you guys. LMK what you need. jengod (talk) 20:22, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Published, very nice. jp×g🗯️ 08:10, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Submission[edit]

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  • Submission: Equity lists on Wikipedia - Here's the draft in a sandbox.
  • Column: Equity lists on Wikipedia
  • Author: Will (Wiki Ed)
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    This piece is about the development and implementation of Equity lists, which are inspired by Women in Red. The basic idea is to use other demographic variables - Sexual Orientation, Nationality, Medical Condition, to aggregate lists of names of people from other language versions of Wikipedia that do not yet have English Wikipedia articles. The common thread is to emphasize people from communities that are traditionally underrepresented on Wikipedia. Will (Wiki Ed) (talk) 22:31, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Will (Wiki Ed): Yeah, this looks good. If you can format it into a draft we can run it in the next issue. Thanks! jp×g 06:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@JPxG: I have adapted this article from our blog to the Signpost. I'm not positive the formatting is perfect, so feel free to let me know. Thanks! Will (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:39, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to me.  Done jp×g🗯️ 23:29, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Evaluating qualitative systemic bias in large article sets[edit]

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  • Submission: User:Larataguera/Bias
  • Column: TDB
  • Author: Larataguera
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    This piece is about assessing qualitative systemic bias in large sets of articles. Most studies of systemic bias address quantitative bias by noting that large numbers of articles are missing from the encyclopedia. This does not address qualitative bias in existing articles that may be implied when large numbers of articles are missing. This submission proposes a system to identify missing statements from existing articles based on relationships between those articles and sets of missing entities. Larataguera (talk) 13:20, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Larataguera: This is nice. I would like to publish this. There are a couple things that I would be cautious about with copyediting (for example, the diff you cite here looks like it's just vandalism). I am no scholar of Wikipolitics, but I think that there was a bunch of it with this project which complicates the issue a little (not sure -- it might have been a similarly named one). Overall, though, it is a good concept and it's written well. I can move it to the holding tank for next issue if you want. jp×g 06:19, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's great. Thanks! I'm happy to make edits to address any concerns of course.
As for that particular diff, it may have been vandalism, though if so, it went unreverted until I fixed it a few days ago. (It introduced an invalid parameter in the template.) Shortly before that edit, the project was marked semi-active; that's how it's marked right now since my recent edit, and that may be more strictly accurate. I revamped the project page back in December, and another editor observed then that the project was struggling to remain active.
I would love for CSB to be an active and effective project, but I also don't think the community should pretend that this issue is being addressed when it isn't. Larataguera (talk) 11:52, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So in summary, I can change that sentence to more accurately reflect the state of affairs I've just summarised above, and if there are any other concerns just raise them wherever you like and I'll see what I can do to address them. Thanks again! Larataguera (talk) 12:00, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to me.  Done jp×g🗯️ 23:29, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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FAC Retrospective[edit]

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Hi. What's the status of this? Is there something else I need to be doing to it? Can you at least confirm that you want to use this; if not, then I'll post it elsewhere. RoySmith (talk) 16:13, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@JPxG @Bluerasberry @Bri @Headbomb @Smallbones Any word? Could somebody at least acknowledge that I've submitted this to the right place and it hasn't fallen into a black hole? RoySmith (talk) 14:54, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@RoySmith: I sent you an email.Sorry for the delay. I suggest some rewritting then submitting it in "In focus". Smallbones(smalltalk) 21:01, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikimania 2024 Scholarships[edit]

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Does this need to be a separate story? It short and honestly not very informative - instead of PR lyrics ("a celebration of the ways we work together" etc.) our readers might be more interested in, say, the eligibility criteria, or stats about how many scholarships are usually awarded each year. Regards, HaeB (talk) 05:46, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good, published. jp×g🗯️ 09:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia: A Multigenerational Pursuit[edit]

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I think this is publishable, but needs some context. Was it a volunteer speech? A speech given as part of some initiative? An invited talk? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:55, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It was an invited keynote. Guillaume (WMF) (talk) 14:35, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes - invited keynote. Sorry I missed the question earlier! SDeckelmann-WMF (talk) 22:28, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Headbomb is there a reason that this wasn't published in the recent edition? Does it need any changes to make it into the next one? KStineRowe (WMF) (talk) 18:41, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect it was simply a matter of JPxG not having much time to review and format it into a Signpost-style page. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:10, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @JPxG is there anything else needed in order for Selena's piece to be published in the next Signpost? Thank you. KStineRowe (WMF) (talk) 14:39, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@KStineRowe (WMF) @JPxG I converted it into Signpost format, hopefully did it correctly. let me know :) ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 18:11, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good, published. jp×g🗯️ 09:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Crossword[edit]

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Good, published. jp×g🗯️ 09:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Hunt for Bertil Ragnar Anzén[edit]

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  • Submission: User:Julle/The Hunt for Bertil Ragnar Anzén
  • Column: Serendipity, maybe?
  • Author: Julle
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    A piece on the ridiculous lengths one sometimes has to go to in order to add a couple of short sentences to a Wikipedia article, here by trying to figure out of a Swedish painter and a Swedish Nazi actually were the same person. Hopefully an entertaining read. Partly based on this Swedish article which is mentioned towards the end, but rewritten and with a different conclusion. /Julle (talk) 10:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Julle, Bri, and JPxG: This is outstanding and should be published ASAP. Serendipity sounds good. It needs a blurb - a line or 3 - to put under the headline on the main Signpost page. I'm thinking "Javert finds his reference" but that has some possible problems. Also, is there a photo, maybe of one of the paintings in the kitchen? Smallbones(smalltalk) 16:48, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Moved to a Signpost draft, changed status to "in development". I think this can go to "approved" any time. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:13, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Smallbones: Thank you!
I could definitely get a photo (the illustration in this article is from my kitchen), but the paintings are still covered by copyright. As a Swedish Wikimedian, fair use isn't my strongest suit. Would it be applicable here? /Julle (talk) 19:01, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but "fair use" is not allowed on The Signpost since we don't publish in article main space. There's no way for us to get around this. Can you give us a link to the Swedish article if they have a photo. Smallbones(smalltalk) 19:08, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oops! I know how to find https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertil_Anz%C3%A9n , but no photo there. Smallbones(smalltalk) 19:16, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Smallbones: I suspected this might be the case – the thought of including the paintings originally didn't even strike me, and I asked mainly because you had mentioned them as a potential illustration. I'm unaware of any free images of Anzén, unfortunately. /Julle (talk) 23:22, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiProjects Israel and Palestine[edit]

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{{completed}} Published -- a good article -- don't know why this was stickling around on the submissions page still. jp×g🗯️ 01:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Submission proposal: Op-ed on Wikipedia in the age of personality-driven knowledge[edit]

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  • Submission: User:MPinchuk (WMF)/Signpost draft
  • Column: Opinion
  • Author: MPinchuk (WMF)
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    This piece is about the other socio-technical trend (not AI!) that is unfolding in the world and is (I think) just as important for Wikipedians to think and talk about: generational changes in preference for how to get information online, with increasing preference for getting news/history/trivia/educational content from personalities on social video platforms— instead of impersonal text-heavy places like search engines and websites (... plus, the huge incentives heaped on creators to make this kind of content for platforms that offer and monetize it). I have no easy answers, but I'd like to pose this as a topic for community discussion. Thanks for your consideration, Signpost! Maryana Pinchuk (WMF) (talk) 22:27, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done In Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-29/Op-Ed -- good stuff. jp×g🗯️ 01:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Update on the new Community Wishlist[edit]

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 Done as Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-05-16/News_and_notes#A new Community Wishlist survey -- good stuff. jp×g🗯️ 01:03, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Submission[edit]

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@A.FLOCK: This looks like a good start for a pitch; right now it seems like something more appropriate for an entry in News and Notes, or maybe In the Media, rather than a standalone article. I would be fine with incorporating it into one of these columns if you'd like. Otherwise I think it would require some more in the way of introduction, independent analysis or interpretation, et cetera. Perhaps it would be possible to do a deeper examination of the actual casepages and decisions involved and compare them to the video? jp×g 06:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@JPxG: I'm okay with being part of an article as long as I am credited in the byline. Thank you and sorry for the long wait!! A.FLOCK (talk) 22:21, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Progress on the plan: How the Wikimedia Foundation has advanced on its Annual Plan goals[edit]

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  • Submission: User:ELappen_(WMF)/Sandbox/AP_progress_post
  • Column: News from the WMF
  • Author: ELappen (WMF) on behalf of the Foundation's Annual Planning group
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    This piece outlines the progress the Foundation has made so far towards its Annual Plan for fiscal year 2023-2024. By sharing progress reports, we are hoping to give Signpost readers more insight into how work is advancing and allow for more conversations throughout the year. ELappen (WMF) (talk) 20:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey JPxG first-time submission, just checking whether there's anything else I need to do in order for this piece to be considered for the next issue. Thanks so much! --ELappen (WMF) (talk) 20:24, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ELappen (WMF): Sorry about the delay -- I am happy to run this in the next issue if it is up-to-date, or can be made so (I would be glad to help in this if possible). Is this still extant? jp×g🗯️ 03:58, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JPxG: Thanks for this. I'm thinking about how to best update this content. I'll either update this draft directly or propose something a bit different. Will let you know here soon. --ELappen (WMF) (talk) 22:08, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JPxG: I've used a more recent update to go with a list rather than a long-form post. The new draft is here. Let me know what you think about this approach. --ELappen (WMF) (talk) 00:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JPxG: Just making sure you've seen the update to this piece. Happy to take any feedback, and I'm fine for it to run whenever makes sense in the next couple of issues. --ELappen (WMF) (talk) 20:20, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Got it in, it's in the next issue :) jp×g🗯️ 09:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
{{completed}} jp×g🗯️ 06:32, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol receives a much-needed software upgrade[edit]

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@Novem Linguae and Samwalton9 (WMF): Sorry about the delay -- I've moved this to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Technology report, should go out on the 31st. Thank you for submitting this; if you want to go over and make sure everything is still up to date I would appreciate it. jp×g🗯️ 02:11, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @JPxG! Will do. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:05, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
{{completed}} jp×g🗯️ 06:32, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Foundation publishes its Form 990 for fiscal year 2022-2023[edit]

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  • Submission: User:ELappen_(WMF)/Signpost draft
  • Column: News from the WMF
  • Author: ELappen (WMF) on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation
  • Discussion: This short piece covers the highlights of the Foundation's fiscal year 2022-2023 Form 990 and directs the reader on where to learn more.

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This is at News and notes for the next issue. ☆ Bri (talk) 00:41, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
{{completed}} jp×g🗯️ 06:32, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Submission Kalloor[edit]

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Discussion on the recent possible-hoax Kalloor. Spoke briefly to JPxG over email about it and they gave me advice. I've also talked about original information on Wikipedia. The article was insignificant, so possibly a good chance to have a discussion without a heated political debate? Based the writing style around other Signpost articles. Svampesky (talk) 17:16, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is good and I will try to get it into the current issue. jp×g🗯️ 07:07, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Great to hear. I've made one minor edit to the 'about the author' bio here, but everything else is fine. If it needs more length, or something, send me an email and I'll get it done quicker than if I'm notified on my talk page. Also, the line that reads citing Yoohanon Chrysostom as an example, might be better off saying citing Yoohanon Chrysostom Kalloor as an exampleSvampesky (talk) 16:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Svampesky: The draft still contains two red "FACT CHECK THIS" warnings. Regards, HaeB (talk) 00:11, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is for the copyeditors, which I assume are admins or have a bit more technical knowledge than me. Admins can see deleted pages, but I can't. All it needs is confirmation on the date the page was originally created (as the hoax talk page and project page differs). I don't know whether you an are an admin or not, so I'll ping JPxG because I know he is. The deadline was fast approaching— but in retrospect I should have contacted an admin, such as my mentor, to sort it out before submitting. Svampesky (talk) 01:38, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've notified my mentor asking for confirmation on the article's creation date, if they respond it can be found here User talk:Firefangledfeathers#Question from Svampesky (01:53, 7 June 2024). Svampesky (talk) 01:54, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Svampesky. The article was created on 31 August 2005. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC) per Special:Diff/1227654739. I'll go and edit that into the draft. Svampesky (talk) 01:59, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Fact check on the date in the draft completed. Svampesky (talk) 02:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done I'll also note that I've done a pronoun-check on the editors mentioned. TenPoundHammer's userpage says This user identifies as non-binary so the piece uses "they". Piotrus' userpage has a userbox which says ...because he believes that the Singularity is coming, so the piece uses "he". Svampesky (talk) 19:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
JPxG and HaeB, can you review this edit for me please. I made a stylistic choice which I don't intend to a newbie coming into a place to disregard rules about the style guide Special:Diff/1227782103. I made it easy to be reverted. I will say that I personally think it reads so much better with the distingushing colour, as I now know what the link leads to. Before it was a bit unclear. The blue-green colour choice is from me searching "colours beginning with E" (with E for editor), and the first result was Earth. But can also be U, meaning "user", for "Uranus" which is also blue-green if there needs to be another colour based reasoning! Svampesky (talk) 17:41, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Svampesky Sorry for coming in unexpectedly... Maybe, the only real issue with this choice is that some readers might struggle with color differences, but I don't mind it, to be honest!
Also, I've just moved your draft into a proper Signpost column, so you can keep working on it from there. Oltrepier (talk) 20:58, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do really like the idea of having distinct styles like this -- one thing I've noticed is that {{tq}} looks very meh (wtf is that shade of green?) and more importantly causes everything it's used in to have inconsistent line height (due to using a different font). I have put it on my to-do list to experiment with some more Signpost-exclusive formatting templates for stuff like this (i.e. we already have our own for side images, blockquotes, etc). I hadn't thought of having userpage links be a different color from normal links, it sounds pretty smart, although it would require some effort (figuring out a shade, making a template for it, integrating it into the draft/writing process, etc) and this issue is pretty late as it is so I think for now we should use use the normal link style for these. jp×g🗯️ 23:27, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm glad you like the idea. The intention was to be subtle. The 'blue means link' standard should be kept, per blue-red (AKA purple) meaning a clicked link. I don't think there should be any new colours (like amber means article) in my opinion. The hex I chose was lifted from the blue-green article as I thought that would the 'Wikipedia consensus' of what the standard blue-green shade is. Svampesky (talk) 18:19, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I updated my signature. Look how cool it is 😎 Svampesky (talk) 18:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Based. Also marking this section {{completed}} jp×g🗯️ 06:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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