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Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2012/Candidates/Elen of the Roads

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This is the talk page for discussing a candidate for election to the Arbitration Committee.


Discussion

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  • Glad to see you bit the bullet and joined the party. I know its a tough job, but the place is a bit sweeter with you on the committee. Of course you have my support. Dennis Brown - © Join WER 01:39, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hmm, I seem to find myself saying "what Dennis said" a lot these days - but, erm, what Dennis said :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:02, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Elen strikes me as one of the more level-headed members of the current ArbCom — a group which, on the whole, has done an admirable job. Carrite (talk) 20:48, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • What Dennis said. Bumped into you several times Elen! Vacationnine 21:18, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why I am opposing this candidate. My opposition to Elen of the Roads' candidacy is due to the recent leak of information from arbcom-l, for which Elen was responsible. She has quite clearly violated the confidentiality of Arbcom's communications. I would guess that she feels it was justified in terms of exposing unacceptable actions by another arbitrator (in effect, whistleblowing). While I do have some sympathy with that view, Arbcom cannot function if arbitrators selectively leak information against each other. The fact that Elen apparently thought it was right to do so is, in my view, a sign of unfitness to serve as an arbitrator. Her actions are very likely to lead or to have already led to a breakdown in trust between her and the other arbitrators, and as such I cannot see how she can be an effective arbitrator in future. Prioryman (talk) 00:05, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I trust Elen and will be voting for her. She's intelligent. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 15:45, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why I am supporting this candidate. I always intended to support Elen. There has been no "selective leak". That's an absurd take on the situation. That Elen should be opposed as fallout from the worst behaviour I have ever seen from another sitting arbitrator, Jclemens, is ludicrous. The list is for discussion of confidential material relating to cases which the arbs have been elected to arbitrate - not petty infighting, electioneering and jockeying for position.
The fact that Elen felt she needed to discuss this carefully with someone before deciding whether to run again may have been a minor lapse in judgement (I'm not even sure about that). The rest is speculation. The motion to remove her access stinks of the same political infighting, with no suggestion that any editor with an expectation of confidentiality has had that breached. I seem to recall that Jclemens himself posted mails he said he had received in support of his position, and did so without consent. I'm not sure his inappropriate and off-topic comments to the arb list should be protected by the spirit of the confidentiality requirement for that list.
The only reason I might have had to not support her would have been the nagging feeling that I shouldn't support the election of anyone into such a broken system. In the end I decided that she's big enough to judge that for herself - so I support her. Begoontalk 05:45, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I feel extremely uncomfortable about having to say this because Elen is one of the users for whom I have the greatest respect and would normally whole heartedly support as I did last time. However, recent events suggest to me that she may not after all be best suited for the committee. I am not influenced by, but certainly concur with, some of the issues raised by Sandy Georgia in her candidate guide, so I'm going neutral. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:24, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Questions

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Questions for Elen of the Roads
Kiefer.Wolfowitz 10:17, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]