Template talk:Did you know/Approved
This page holds approved nominations that are waiting to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page. Following DYK approval, nominations are processed and moved into a Prep area, and from there, prep sets are promoted to a queue, and then to the main page.
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Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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April 13 | 1 | 1 |
April 19 | 1 | |
April 24 | 1 | 1 |
April 25 | 2 | 1 |
April 26 | 1 | |
April 29 | 1 | |
April 30 | 1 | |
May 2 | 2 | |
May 5 | 1 | |
May 7 | 2 | 1 |
May 8 | 1 | 1 |
May 9 | 2 | |
May 10 | 3 | |
May 12 | 6 | 2 |
May 14 | 2 | |
May 15 | 1 | 1 |
May 16 | 2 | |
May 17 | 6 | 1 |
May 19 | 1 | |
May 20 | 7 | 4 |
May 21 | 9 | 4 |
May 22 | 5 | 2 |
May 23 | 1 | |
May 24 | 5 | 2 |
May 25 | 3 | 1 |
May 26 | 4 | 2 |
May 27 | 6 | 2 |
May 28 | 1 | |
May 29 | 5 | 2 |
May 30 | 4 | 2 |
May 31 | 3 | 3 |
June 1 | 4 | 3 |
June 2 | 5 | 1 |
June 3 | 4 | 2 |
June 4 | 1 | |
June 5 | 8 | 5 |
June 6 | 4 | 1 |
June 7 | 9 | 5 |
June 8 | 10 | 5 |
June 9 | 14 | 5 |
June 10 | 4 | 2 |
June 11 | 6 | 2 |
June 12 | 8 | 2 |
June 13 | 15 | 5 |
June 14 | 8 | 1 |
June 15 | 6 | 3 |
June 16 | 10 | 5 |
June 17 | 9 | 3 |
June 18 | 8 | 2 |
June 19 | 4 | 2 |
June 20 | 5 | |
June 21 | 5 | |
June 22 | 10 | 1 |
June 23 | 7 | 2 |
June 24 | 2 | 1 |
Total | 256 | 91 |
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Instructions for other editors[edit]
How to promote an accepted hook[edit]
- See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
- In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
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- In the prep set...
- Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
- Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
- Add an edit summary, e.g., "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
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How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]
- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
- Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
- Add a transclusion of the template back to the nominations page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from the nominations page.
- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
Nominations[edit]
Special occasion holding area[edit]
June 28[edit]
July 1[edit]
International Register of Electors
- ... that expatriate Canadians added to the International Register of Electors may vote in Canadian elections in the electoral riding of their last Canadian address?
- Source: "Votes cast by Canadians living abroad count in the electoral district where they last lived before leaving Canada." at Voting rules for electors living outside of Canada
- ALT1: ... that as of 2019, inclusion in the International Register of Electors no longer requires residency in Canada in the preceding five years? Source: "Now, any Canadian expatriate qualified to vote, regardless of how long they have been out of the country" and "Previously, only citizens who had lived abroad for less than five years were allowed to vote." at List of countries where Canadian expats live disclosed for security reasons
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rebecca Odes; see my DYK tracker.
- Comment: I welcome suggestions for shorter hooks, and a better alternative for ALT1, which is lacking some context.
Mindmatrix 16:37, 17 May 2024 (UTC).
- Article moved to mainspace the day it was nominated. Article is long enough, well-cited to reliable sources, presentable, and with no policy issues detected. Hooks are formatted and of good length, hook facts cited in article, verified from sources, and interesting. QPQ verified. ALT0 is probably the more interesting of the two. I'm going to hold the tick for a bit while I think about other hooks (per nom). (I had something interesting about the Quebec (provincial) list, as voters outside the province were more likely to vote "no" on sovereignty.) BTW, would you like to request this for Canada Day? – Reidgreg (talk) 16:36, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Leontius of Autun
- ... that the details about the life of Leontius of Autun can be summed up as, "July 1 – The burial of Leontius, bishop of Autun (Gaul), 5th century"?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Drake–Kendrick Lamar feud
- Comment: I'm asking that this run on July 1, which is his saint day. Thanks.
--evrik (talk) 04:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC).
Fascinating little article about such an obscure figure! The source checks out, the article seems in good shape (just barely long enough, fully cited, no evidence of copyvio), and the QPQ checks out as well. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:01, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Generalissima:, would you mind please dropping this in the Wikipedia:SOHA for July 1? Thanks. --evrik (talk) 16:35, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Approved nominations[edit]
Articles created/expanded on April 13[edit]
Me at the zoo
- ... that YouTube co-founder Jawed Karim (pictured) has updated the description of his "Me at the zoo" video on multiple occasions to criticize the website's business decisions? Source: https://venturebeat.com/2013/11/08/youtube-cofounders-first-public-comment-in-8-years-why-the-f-do-i-need-a-google-account-to-comment-on-a-video/https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/17/22787080/youtube-dislikes-criticism-cofounder-jawed-karim-first-video-description-zoo
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Davest3r08 >:3 (talk) 01:06, 14 April 2024 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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Overall: @Davest3r08: Everything checks out here. Just waiting on the one QPQ. Nice work! 🐱FatCat96🐱 Chat with Cat 16:04, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Good to go! 🐱FatCat96🐱 Chat with Cat 01:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- With YouTube Rewind 2018: Everyone Controls Rewind (nom) in prep 5, this should not be scheduled until the next prep 5.--Launchballer 17:09, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- LunaEclipse, concerns have been raised over the copyright status of the video and as it was the lead hook, I've pulled it from queue. It needs to be promoted again, but can't include the video, unless we come to the conclusion that the license is ok after all. Schwede66 22:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Schwede66: there is evidence that this was CC-BY licensed at one point. CC licenses are irrevocable. 🌙Eclipse (talk) (contribs) 22:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- After concerns were raised on WT:DYK about the copyright status, I've posted to the commons about this video: [3] Rjjiii (talk) 02:45, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Videos attract huge views, and I recommend waiting until we have an answer.--Launchballer 10:24, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I've replaced the video with an image of Karim. It's going to take a while for a consensus on the upload's copyright to form anyways. 🌙Eclipse (talk) (contribs) 18:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- I won't use that image per WP:DYKIMG. Just noting here that, while the hook should technically have an end-of-sentence citation, ALT0 is clearly a summary of the rest of that paragraph and the alternative's potentially a {{clump}}, so I'm minded to IAR - but is there a source available?--Launchballer 18:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I've replaced the video with an image of Karim. It's going to take a while for a consensus on the upload's copyright to form anyways. 🌙Eclipse (talk) (contribs) 18:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Videos attract huge views, and I recommend waiting until we have an answer.--Launchballer 10:24, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer, Davest3r08, LunaEclipse, and Schwede66: I've removed this from the queue again, as it doesn't look like the issue of the video's copyright has been resolved yet. I think before this runs, we need to either (a) remove the video from the article, or (b) ascertain that there's a consensus somewhere that its copyright status is valid. As far as I could tell from the discussion last time, we were minded to reject the video's certification given that Lapitsky recorded it, not Karim. I'd think without definitive knowledge that Lapitsky's intention was to release it under that licence, and with it not even being under that licence any more anyway, this is pretty dubious... — Amakuru (talk) 20:11, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- I've added my 2c to the discussion on Commons. That said, I'm not sure that's quite the right venue for that discussion; it should have been put up for deletion. Schwede66 21:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- @LunaEclipse, Schwede66, Rjjiii, Kentuckian, and Amakuru: Just noting here that I have nominated the video for deletion on Commons.--Launchballer 10:25, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, this nom has stalled for way too long. I've removed the video from the article for the time being. lunaeclipse (talk) 22:24, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- @LunaEclipse, Schwede66, Rjjiii, Kentuckian, and Amakuru: Just noting here that I have nominated the video for deletion on Commons.--Launchballer 10:25, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- It would be really cool to run this on April 23, 2025- the 20th anniversary of its posting. Thriley (talk) 18:40, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
I wish you the very best of much-needed luck at WT:DYK if you wish to go down that avenue. For now, let's get this back into Approved. I recommend promoting this no earlier than prep 4 just in case the Commons discussion returns a 'keep' vote, so that the video can be substituted back in.--Launchballer 18:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 24[edit]
Chris Tanasale
- ... that in a period of religious tensions, military officer Chris Tanasale was selected as mayor of Ambon, Indonesia, to prevent alienating local Christians? Source: [4]: "In the end, the governor chose not to further alienate the Christian community and selected a Christian candidate, Chris Tanasale".
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Elizabeth Yeampierre
- Comment: -
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 225 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Juxlos (talk) 05:48, 1 May 2024 (UTC).
New enough, long enough, well written, hook is verified and interesting, no plagiarism, QPQ done. I'm not entirely sure that the image is correctly licensed, but in any case it is not used with the hook. Dahn (talk) 09:29, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
@Juxlos, Dahn, and AirshipJungleman29: sorry for last minute pull, I checked this set earlier today but only just had access to a computer to edit... anyway, the issue is there seems to be a chronological issue with this hook, based on what's in the article. The hook begins with "that during a period of religious tensions...", with a link to Maluku sectarian conflict, which is described as being from 1999 to 2002, but then it says he was "selected as the mayor of Ambon, Indonesia, to placate local Christians", something which took place in 1996. So it can't have been during the Maluku conflict. The article goes on to say that this was during his tenure. If there was already tension in 1996, then we probably need to spell that out in the article to use it in the hook and also not link to a specific conflict that took place later. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 21:55, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Amakuru: I suppose that will count as OR in the hook. Maybe we can go with a half-hook instead?
- ALT1: ... that military officer Chris Tanasale was selected as mayor of Ambon, Indonesia, to placate local Christians?
- Juxlos (talk) 01:01, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Dahn: As the original approver, can you confirm if the above hook is approved, and if this article is good to go? @Amakuru: Is the above hook acceptable to you? Z1720 (talk) 00:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Approving new hook, and sorry for not catching that. Dahn (talk) 03:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: my only query would be whether placate is the best word here... The article text reads "to prevent alienating Christians in the city" which sounds quite benevolent and inclusive, whereas placate means "make (someone) less angry or hostile". Were the Christians angry and hostile before Tanasale's selection? — Amakuru (talk) 07:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Dahn: As the original approver, can you confirm if the above hook is approved, and if this article is good to go? @Amakuru: Is the above hook acceptable to you? Z1720 (talk) 00:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Juxlos and Dahn: no worries, hope your trip went well. How's this? I've modified your proposal slightly to prevent the alienation of... rather than prevent alienating, it sounds slightly more grammatical. Other than that, this seems fine to me, Dahn can feedback if they approve this version.
- ALT1a: ... that military officer Chris Tanasale was selected as mayor of Ambon, Indonesia, to prevent the alienation of local Christians? — Amakuru (talk) 16:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 25[edit]
Lunch (song)
Alt0 ... that after being outed by a reporter, Billie Eilish became more open about her bisexuality, even including a song about lesbian sex on her upcoming album?Source: Gay Times, The Cut- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/September 2023 New York floods
- Comment: Open to alternatives.
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page. PSA 🏕️ (talk) 03:39, 26 April 2024 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Generally well-written, sources are okay, hook is interesting. Just a small recommendation, links to Rolling Stone and Coachella 2024 can be added. Good to go! Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 11:10, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hooks must not be likely to change, and that album's probably going to come out. (Probably.)--Launchballer 23:15, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Well, it's released now @Launchballer so...
Alt1 ... that after being outed by a reporter, Billie Eilish became more open about her bisexuality, even including a song about lesbian sex on her third album?
PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 03:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
@PSA, Prince of Erebor, Launchballer, Geni, Kusma, and Z1720: reopening this nom page per discussion at WT:DYK. I personally agree with the sentiment expressed there that including mention of Eilish's sexuality is not suitable for the main page, when she's explicitly said she doesn't accept the concept of outing. Suggest we go with Kusma's alt or something else. Full discussion to be copied below. — Amakuru (talk) 20:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Currently in prep 7. Hook doesn't appear to be neutral. If I'm reading the sources correctly Eilish is rejecting the term outing which the hook uses.©Geni (talk) 05:35, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- My reading of the sources is that Eilish is objecting to actually being outed; if she had a problem with the term, she wouldn't have used it in the Instagram post mentioned in the Background section.--Launchballer 14:30, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- From what I read in the source [5], she said "i like boys and girls leave me alone about it please literally who cares." so I am not sure focussing on her sexuality (instead of on the song) is appropriate for the Main Page. —Kusma (talk) 14:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- "Alt2 ... that Billie Eilish included a song about lesbian sex on her third album?"--Launchballer 14:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not very hooky but its really up to @User:PSA in terms of what they want to do.©Geni (talk) 08:48, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer @Kusma @Geni:
Alt3 ... that Billie Eilish included a song about lesbian sex on her third album after gradually becoming more public about her sapphism?PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 02:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)- I prefer Launchballer's version because it does not talk about Eilish's sexuality in the hook. —Kusma (talk) 05:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer @Kusma @Geni:
- Not very hooky but its really up to @User:PSA in terms of what they want to do.©Geni (talk) 08:48, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- "Alt2 ... that Billie Eilish included a song about lesbian sex on her third album?"--Launchballer 14:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- From the gay times article "Eilish also criticised the notion that a person has to ‘come out’ as queer" I read that has Eilish rejecting the term.©Geni (talk) 08:48, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's more like "no one has to feel pressured to tell people theyre LGBT" to me. not necessarily a rejection of the concept PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 08:52, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Well perhaps. In practice Z1720 aproved the hook some time ago so its all moot at this point.©Geni (talk) 19:33, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- What else needs to be done to this?--Launchballer 17:23, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
New reviewer needed on the hook issue. I've just struck all the hooks that talk about outing or sapphism; there's enough disagreement about including these in the hook (which I agree with) that it isn't going to fly, much though others still want to include it. Whatever Z1720 may have approved in the past, we're clearly past that point now. The only hook left seems to be Launchballer's above, which Geni described as "not very hooky"; maybe a new hook with a different approach is needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:38, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- What else needs to be done to this?--Launchballer 17:23, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Well perhaps. In practice Z1720 aproved the hook some time ago so its all moot at this point.©Geni (talk) 19:33, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's more like "no one has to feel pressured to tell people theyre LGBT" to me. not necessarily a rejection of the concept PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 08:52, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- From what I read in the source [5], she said "i like boys and girls leave me alone about it please literally who cares." so I am not sure focussing on her sexuality (instead of on the song) is appropriate for the Main Page. —Kusma (talk) 14:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- My reading of the sources is that Eilish is objecting to actually being outed; if she had a problem with the term, she wouldn't have used it in the Instagram post mentioned in the Background section.--Launchballer 14:30, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
@PSA, Evrik, Launchballer, and Prince of Erebor: I agree with @Geni and BlueMoonset: I don't think ALT2 meets WP:DYKINT. New hook needed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:06, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
How about:
- "Alt3
... that Billie Eilish debuted Lunch during a secret DJ set?"
My proposal:
- ALT4:
... that one critic compared the "provocative" nature of one Billie Eilish song to the 1969 Stonewall riots?
none of it directly mentions Eilish's sexual orientation so I hope this should be okay . PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 01:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Something for the promoter:
- "Alt3a
... that Billie Eilish first served Lunch during a secret DJ set?"--evrik (talk) 02:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)I don't see how Alt3a is backed up by the Vulture source; while it talks about a "DJ set" (and do we really expect people to know what that even means? it's certainly not a commonly understood term, so it makes for a confusing hook rather than an interesting one), Vulture never uses the term "secret"—©Geni, I think this needs to be revised in the article, and evrik, I've struck both variants of this second Alt3 hook because of this problem. PSA, thanks for trying with Alt4, but I'm unconvinced by the comparison of the song to the Stonewall riots: Allison Hope makes a comparison to one prominent person at Stonewall, and it feels like the article has cherry-picked this particular bit from the CNN story for the purpose of creating a hook (and not bothered to quote "provocative" there while doing so in the hook, a no-no). I do hope something can be found; there might be something in this CNN opinion piece that can be used—perhaps the "confrontational" nature to a figure from Stonewall—but given how the piece centers on "queer-centered sexuality", that may well be too difficult to maneuver around. Maybe there's something else out there? evrik, I suggest that you bow out of reviewing any further hooks for this article, since you've approved several that have issues that should have been picked up on, not given ticks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- "Alt3b ... that Billie Eilish first served Lunch during a private party at Coachella?"Gonzalez, Alex. "Billie Eilish Previewed A New Song, 'Lunch,' During Coachella And Its Lyrics Are So Explicit Fans Are Having Fits Online". Uproxx. --evrik (talk) 03:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: i'm not sure I can parse what's happening. The intention was to highlight "
the 'confrontational' nature to a figure from Stonewall
" as you put it, but the hook kind of already does that? I think we should just edit the hook to match that wording more:
- @BlueMoonset: i'm not sure I can parse what's happening. The intention was to highlight "
- Alt4a "that the 'confrontational' nature of one Billie Eilish song was compared to a prominent figure of the Stonewall riots?
- Also, no offense, but I, as a queer person myself, do not get why we're so hung-up on absolutely not mentioning Eilish's sexual orientation when she's been open about it so many times. I must be missing something here. PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 03:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
I believe that a new reviewer is needed for ALT4a. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:03, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- The reviewer should also check ALT3b. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 7[edit]
Laura Veale
- ... that Laura Veale was the first Yorkshire-born woman to be qualified as a doctor?
- Source: Several, including: Harrogate Advertiser: "Hampsthwaite commemorates North Yorkshire’s first female doctor Laura Sobey Veale". Note: This fact has had to be carefully interpreted. It was initially expressed as "the first Yorkshire woman to become a doctor" on the brown plaque, pictured in the article and written by the eminent Harrogate historian Malcolm Neesam. He meant "Yorkshire-born". However it has since been interpreted to mean that she was the first female doctor to practise in Yorkshire, which would be incorrect. Edith Pechey was the first qualified woman doctor to practise in Yorkshire, but she was born in Essex, so to local understanding she was definitely not a "Yorkshire woman" (they are very parochially-minded here). Veale was born in Yorkshire.
- Reviewed: Sonja van den Ende
- Comment: Created in userspace over some weeks from 15 March, then moved to mainspace on 6 May.
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 105 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Storye book (talk) 17:49, 7 May 2024 (UTC).
The article was moved to mainspace yesterday, so is new enough. It is far more than long enough and properly uses in-line citations (perhaps even more so than necessary for some sentences). The copyvio detector doesn't find anything other than names of things and quotes that are properly used in the article. The hook is short enough, interesting, and is cited inline. The QPQ has been done and there's no image to review. Looks good to go! SilverserenC 20:41, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review, Silver seren Re the "even more so than necessary", you'll find that some experienced editors are doing that for a good reason. For example, if you have a "first" in the article, that is going to be automatically questioned and double-checked, and rightly so. Therefore, it is worth finding as many different, independent sources as possible for that "first" and including them all in the article. There is also the fact that some sources may be accessible to some readers (e.g. readers with a subscription, readers in the UK, etc.) and some source may not be accessible to all (e.g. readers outside the UK or without subscription), so it's worth giving them a few alternative sources. A third reason is that various sources give different aspects to the same fact, and some sources also include extra facts which the editor chooses not to include in the article, but which are extremely interesting. In the cast of historical articles, contemporary sources may give the historical standpoint on the matter. Extra sources containing additional facts may also allow other editors to expand the article. Nothing is wasted in this particular article, and there is a reason for everything. Storye book (talk) 08:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Storye book and Silver seren: The relevant policy is WP:CLUMP, which says that "Two or three [citations] may be preferred for more controversial material or as a way of preventing linkrot for online sources, but more than three should generally be avoided; if four or more are needed, consider bundling (merging) the citations." I'm afraid it would deserve {{clump}}, and I think your explanation on this page would constitute WP:SYNTH anyway.--Launchballer 11:52, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for removing the surplus reference. I notice there are several unattributed quotes, including (but not limited to) "the first Yorkshire[-born] woman to become a doctor" and the "by all reports" sentence after it, that are not attributed in text, and I think they should be.--Launchballer 19:42, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Storye book and Silver seren: The relevant policy is WP:CLUMP, which says that "Two or three [citations] may be preferred for more controversial material or as a way of preventing linkrot for online sources, but more than three should generally be avoided; if four or more are needed, consider bundling (merging) the citations." I'm afraid it would deserve {{clump}}, and I think your explanation on this page would constitute WP:SYNTH anyway.--Launchballer 11:52, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Edit conflict. @Launchballer: (1) There are now no groups of more than three citations in the article. (2) Synth is about article content. It does not govern discussions on DYK templates, article talk pages or user talk pages. It is permissible to give one's opinion on DYK templates (how often have you seen the opinion "I don't like that hook"?) Neither is Synth about the grouping together of two or more references which support the relevant fact, and just so happen to contain extra material which may or may not also be useful where the fact is controversial. I shall look at the unattributed quotations. Storye book (talk) 19:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have now added attributions in words to all the remaining quotations, except where the quotations were just one or two words. It doesn't look right to me, because the quotations are already cited at their ends, but I have done it since you asked, to keep the peace. Storye book (talk) 20:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Edit conflict. @Launchballer: (1) There are now no groups of more than three citations in the article. (2) Synth is about article content. It does not govern discussions on DYK templates, article talk pages or user talk pages. It is permissible to give one's opinion on DYK templates (how often have you seen the opinion "I don't like that hook"?) Neither is Synth about the grouping together of two or more references which support the relevant fact, and just so happen to contain extra material which may or may not also be useful where the fact is controversial. I shall look at the unattributed quotations. Storye book (talk) 19:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Unpromoted per Special:Diff/1227320336 RoySmith (talk) 01:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that despite the contemporary misogyny of the medical profession in her home county of Yorkshire, Laura Veale was accepted for medical training at the Royal Free Hospital Medical School? (186 characters) (Source: The BMJ: "She decided) to enter the medical profession at a time when this was a particularly difficult step for women to take. In fact the medical school in Leeds shut its doors to her, and she had to go to the more liberal-minded University of London to pursue her studies, passing the London M.B. in 1904".) Note: the Royal Free Hospital Medical School was then run under the auspices of the University of London. Storye book (talk) 10:30, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that despite the misogyny of the medical profession in her home county, Laura Veale was accepted for medical training at the Royal Free Hospital Medical School?
Note: to promoter: Please use the picture or not as you wish, but I am sure that you will not discard the picture on the sole grounds of not being a pretty girl, because she had quite enough misogyny in her lifetime. Thank you.. Storye book (talk) 10:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)- Oops. Forgot that the image is not yet free. Storye book (talk) 15:36, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Storye book, do you have a source linking the misogyny of the medical profession and Veale's acceptance by the RFHMS? Otherwise ALTs 1 and 2 are probably WP:SYNTH. TSventon (talk) 14:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oops. Forgot that the image is not yet free. Storye book (talk) 15:36, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that the misogyny of one institution would ever be linked to the liberality of another institution? ALTs 1 and 2 actually differentiate between them. However: try these:
- ALT3 ... that despite being denied medical training in her home county of Yorkshire, Laura Veale was accepted at the Royal Free Hospital Medical School? (Source as ALT1 above)
- ALT4 ... that despite being denied medical training in her home county, Laura Veale was accepted at the Royal Free Hospital Medical School? (Source as ALT1 above) Storye book (talk) 15:06, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 8[edit]
Florida Hospital Oceanside
- ... that Florida Hospital Oceanside in Ormond Beach, Florida was demolished after being damaged by Hurricane Irma?
- ALT1: ... that an administrator of Florida Hospital Oceanside was arrested by the DEA for prescription drug fraud? Source: https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/lifestyle/health-fitness/2017/02/08/florida-hospital-oceanside-administrator-charged-in-prescription-drug-fraud/22515051007/
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Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Catfurball (talk) 15:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: * Ormond Beach should probably be wikilinked.
- Source [3] says the renaming happened on May 15, 1998.
- The Oct 1, 2000 renaming to Florida Hospital Oceanside does not appear in any of the three sources listed.[2][6][7] But it does appear in source [1]. The sentence "On October 1, 2000, Florida Hospital officially to over the management of Memorial Hospital Peninsula" lacks a verb and it's not clear what "Florida Hospital" refers to in this sentence. Did you mean Adventist Health System?
- "To make the rehabilitation rooms on the second and third floors private." Dangling clause.
- "In early March 2018, the rehabilitation facility at Florida Hospital Oceanside moved to Florida Hospital Memorial Medical Center. This left the hospital with 17 acute-care beds." - This seems to misunderstand the source. Prior to Irma, there were already only 17 beds, then Irma damaged Oceanside to the point of closing and moving service to Memorial Medical Center. This source is also about the whole hospital, not just the rehabilitation facility.
- "From the site AdventHealth was keeping 2.44 acres for future use by Florida State Road A1A." The article says "future endeavors", not for use by State Road A1A. That's a completely separate point.
Overall, I think the writer could do with some more careful reading of the sources to verify all claims in the article. I'm happy to pass it if the above points are addressed. I think HOOK1 should be used, considering the alleged crime did not lead to a conviction. Axem Titanium (talk) 17:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
@Axem Titanium: Ormond Beach is linked in the articles introduction. And I have made improvements that you suggested to the article. Catfurball (talk) 18:23, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant it should be linked in the hook itself. Axem Titanium (talk) 18:39, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Catfurball: Were you done with your edits to the article? I still see some factual errors/misreading of sources that I identified above. Axem Titanium (talk) 15:15, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
@Axem Titanium: Since you do not like my work I with draw my nomination. Catfurball (talk) 15:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not asking you to withdraw the nomination; I'm asking you to address the issues I identified above, some of which you implemented and some of which you did not. The clause is still dangling. It's the whole hospital that closed, not just the rehabilitation facility. The 2.44 acres are not going to be used by Road A1A. These are specific and easily addressable issues. Axem Titanium (talk) 15:55, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
@Axem Titanium: Know are you happy with my changes. Catfurball (talk) 19:02, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for making those fixes. I grouped some sentences together to address SounderBruce's proseline concerns. Passing. Axem Titanium (talk) 19:49, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 12[edit]
Lillie Shockney
- ... that Lillie Shockney is a co-founder of the Academy of Oncology Nurse & Patient Navigators?
- ALT1: ... that breast cancer patients became a primary patient population for nurse navigation after Lillie Shockney reported the impact of the program at Johns Hopkins Hospital? Source: https://www.myamericannurse.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/an12-Oncology-Navigtion-1201.pdf "Breast cancer navigation became a primary patient population focus of nurse navigation when Lillie Shockney, MAS, BS, RN, publicized her success at the Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland, where she helped increase appointment completions, improve timeliness of care, and expedite chemotherapy start time by 2 weeks."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Evgeniia Subbotina
Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 17:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC).
The article is long enough and new enough with no copyright violations. All of the references are reliable. The article is neutral. Both hooks are cited, but I prefer ALT1. SL93 (talk) 21:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
As a promoter, I also greatly prefer ALT1, but I don't quite understand the "nurse navigation" bit. What's the best way to simplify the hook Mary Mark Ockerbloom? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- The "nurse navigation" or "patient navigation" field is one that few people will know and hopefully people will go to the page to find out more about it. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 16:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ah I see, is there any way we can rephrase "primary patient population" to make it more accessible for the general reader then Mary Mark Ockerbloom? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:43, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- The "nurse navigation" or "patient navigation" field is one that few people will know and hopefully people will go to the page to find out more about it. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 16:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- AirshipJungleman29, I get it now. How's this? (same references and meaning, less tachnical language) Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 01:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1a: ... that breast cancer patients became a population who frequently worked with nurse navigators after Lillie Shockney reported the impact of the program at Johns Hopkins Hospital?
- ...I'm not sure, I think it's still a little unclear. I'll wait to see what another promoter thinks. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:13, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1b: ... that breast cancer patients started to work more frequently with nurse navigators after Lillie Shockney reported the impact of the program at Johns Hopkins Hospital?
- ALT2: ... that Lillie Shockney organized a program at Johns Hopkins Hospital in which nurse navigators help breast cancer patients to deal with daily life issues as well as medical treatment? Additional source: "patient navigators, including social workers, often focus on practical problems, including transportation, childcare, housing, and psychosocial issues." Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 21:58, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
SL93 are you available to review the above two hooks? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Guardian Cap
- ... that Guardian Caps (pictured) have made players feel like bobbleheads?
- Reviewed: Amen break
- Comment: QPQ to come. Open to ALTs and open to running without image, although I think this is a good article for the image slot on DYK
Soulbust (talk) 16:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC).
- @Soulbust: Please complete a QPQ and link to it above. Thanks, Z1720 (talk) 02:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: The provided source only gives one player's opinion, but the article cites a second opinion, allowing for "players". If the promoting admin feels that support for this is weak, there's the possibility of using something about the caps being required for use in practice despite third-party research not showing their efficacy. If we do a bobblehead hook, I strongly recommend using the image, as it underscores the point made by the players. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:44, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Soulbust and Crisco 1492: "Bobblehead" would require quotes anyway, but let's hear a 'something about the caps being required for use in practice despite third-party research not showing their efficacy' hook.--Launchballer 07:53, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I was thinking something like ALT1 ... that the NFL has required players in most positions to wear Guardian Caps (pictured) during training even though third-party research has questioned their effectiveness? But this is Soulbust's party, so I defer to them. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:40, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: "Most positions" wouldn't really be appropriate. This is 7 of the 11 players on defense (cornerbacks and safeties not required based on article) and 6 of the 11 on offensive (quarterbacks, wide receivers, and running backs not required apparently). However, I recalled hearing that these were rolled out more since 2022. Based on this source, "the only positions not required to wear the caps are kickers, punters, quarterbacks, wide receivers and defensive backs." – Still not enough to say "most" in my opinion. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- "Most positions" is based on the article: four in 2022, two in 2023, and two in 2024 (eight position groups) versus three not mandated. However, I'll be the first to admit that I have very little knowledge of or interest in football, hence my deferral to Soulbust. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:22, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I would describe 'most' as 'more than half', so even six out of 11 would count. I'd include an 'as of' in the hook, but this should check out, although I'd like to hear from Soulbust before I promote this.--Launchballer 13:18, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- It just feels disingenuous to state most since at least a quarter of the players on the field at any given time wouldn't be required. The "three groups" are actually broken down as well, so it's actually four groups (safeties and cornerbacks were lumped in as defensive backs). Perhaps if there's a caveat about it being required of the players who make the most contact... but that gets too wordy. Where's the source on questioning the effectiveness? We'd want sourcing on that to consider including it given the stigma that goes along with questioning the usefulness of safety equipment in regards to the NFL. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- I would describe 'most' as 'more than half', so even six out of 11 would count. I'd include an 'as of' in the hook, but this should check out, although I'd like to hear from Soulbust before I promote this.--Launchballer 13:18, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 15[edit]
Saleh Manaf
- ... that during the protests against Bekasi regent Saleh Manaf, protesters sealed his office and put two goat heads in front of the door? Source: https://www.liputan6.com/news/read/107867/pintu-ruangan-bupati-bekasi-disegel-kepala-kambing
- Reviewed:
- Comment: DYKcheck: "Assuming article is at 5x now, expansion began 11 edits ago on May 10, 2024"
Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:00, 14 May 2024 (UTC).
- Comment: The Bekasi link in the hook is linked to Bekasi city instead of Bekasi Regency. I fixed it Nyanardsan (talk) 07:47, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeromi Mikhael: Please complete a QPQ and link to it above Thanks, Z1720 (talk) 02:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
@Jeromi Mikhael: Has not supplied a QPQ, so I am marking this for closure as rejected. Z1720 (talk) 00:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: I've done a QPQ here! Please retract the closure. Real life got in my way. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael
New reviewer required. Z1720 (talk) 17:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: As noted above, the lede should be beefed up before this hits the main page. Also, given the recent RFC, I'm not sure focusing on the negative aspects of this BLP (i.e., the goat head protest), is going to fly on the main page. It's a very interesting fact, and supported by Liputan6, but something else may work better in the current climate. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:16, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: I've expanded the lede of the article, but I might need some help finding interesting part of the article other than the BLPed hook. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:32, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe something like "that Saleh Manaf became Regent of Bekasi even after his party attempted to annul the results?". If we have an ALT, we can allow the admin making the queues to make the decision. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: ALT1: "... that Saleh Manaf was elected as the Regent of Bekasi despite being a dummy candidate in the election?" Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 16:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. That should give the promoting administrator a choice and hopefully avoid any fuss at the main page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: "... that Saleh Manaf was elected as the Regent of Bekasi despite being an underdog in the election?". Tagging SL93. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 00:39, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 17[edit]
George Kunkel (theatre manager)
- ... that blackface actor George Kunkel (pictured) originally portrayed the character of Uncle Tom to promote slavery during the American Civil War, but later used the part to attack it when his views changed?
- Source: Spingarn, Adena (2018). "Chapter 3: Uncle Tom and Jim Crow". Uncle Tom: From Martyr to Traitor. Stanford University Press. ISBN 9781503606098.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jude McAtamney
- Comment: Moved from draft to mainspace on May 17, 2024
4meter4 (talk) 05:00, 19 May 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this one. Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 21:57, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. I would just link 'blackface' and 'American Civil War' in the hook. Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 22:37, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Forgot to mention it but the photo is GTG too (in the PD, used in the article, clear photo). Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 23:06, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 20[edit]
Jerzy Kosinski: A Biography
- ... that a biography of Jerzy Kosinski was published five years after his death? Source: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-05-12-bk-3077-story.html
- ALT1: ... that one of the reviewers of Jerzy Kosinski: A Biography argued that the book is both neutral but also an "apologia" and "justification of the misdeeds of a brilliantly flawed friend" of the author? Source: see https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-05-12-bk-3077-story.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/American Colossus: Big Bill Tilden and the Creation of Modern Tennis
- Comment: I am having trouble coming up with a hook. First one is boring, hope the second one is more interesting.
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC).
- Article is well sourced and neutral. It's new enough and long enough. QPQ looks to be underway at Template:Did you know nominations/American Colossus: Big Bill Tilden and the Creation of Modern Tennis. I agree that the hooks could be more interesting, and I think it's because it glosses over why this person is notable. (Both in the hook and in the article body.) Following the links the article about the man himself, there's probably a way to describe at least one aspect of what earned him coverage in reliable sources. Either his fiction, his personal life, or both. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:57, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, this still has a lot of potential. I wanted to check back in to see when you have time to work on this again. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:19, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Giving a ping to @Piotrus:. Shooterwalker (talk) 02:18, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Shooterwalker, Sorry, my watchlist is not usable (too big), so I can see only pings. Do you have any suggestions for a more interesting hook? I am open to ideas, but as I said, I can't think of anything better, and I think the proposed hooks are "good enough" for DYK rules. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- That's ok, Piotrus. I think it's hard to come up with this because the article doesn't really summarize the contents of the book. The article summarizes several reviews of the book, but we don't have the context of what they're reviewing.
- Not to create too much more work, but would it be possible to get a short summary of the book in the contents section? It could be similar to the main Jerzy Kosinski article, plus even one sentence about the viewpoint/thesis of the author. If that's too much of a pain, plan B would be to scrape something from the review section. I can do my best to come up with something, but it would definitely be easier with more about the contents of the book. Shooterwalker (talk) 00:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Shooterwalker, The problem is that the reviews do not, as far as I recall, provide any comprehensive information on the book's contents, which I assume is a biography of Kosinski, and the reviewers assume everyone will figure that out, I guess. They do not talk about chapter structure or such, just occasionally engage with some parts of his biography presented in the book the reviewer found interesting. And there is the issue of trying to make this article (and hook) be about the book and not about Kosinski's biography, which after all is a different article... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:40, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- That's okay. We can work without it. I think the hook would end up overlapping with aspects of the subject of the book, but let me see what I can come up with. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:01, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Piotrus How about this:
- ALT1a: ... that Jerzy Kosinski: A Biography described its subject as a "liar", and yet, one reviewer felt that the author's "studiously neutral position ends up sounding like an apologia for Kosinski".
- It leaves out a lot, but hopefully refines the original idea to invite more curiosity. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:15, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Shooterwalker, Sure, it's likely more interesting that what I came up with. I've no problem "adopting" it so you can approve it :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- That sounds good to me. I approve ALT1a.
(I also don't mind if another editor wants to come by with further revisions.) Shooterwalker (talk) 02:08, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus and Shooterwalker: An article comprising of one lead sentence, two single-sentence sections and one six paragraph Reception section comprising 92% of the article is a unmitigated WP:DYKCOMPLETE fail.--Launchballer 07:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer, Nope. The article pretty comprehensively covers the topic; there is not much else to write about it. I scoured the sources for anything relevant and it is already here. You can't call an article incomplete if there is no source covering other stuff, whatever that other stuff would be. Catalogue bibliographic information + reception is all that exists on this and all that we can therefore include. PS. That said, I'll expand the lead a bit more, since it is too short and did not cover the aforementioned reception. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:31, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- That's a bit better; I've knocked together the two short sections per MOS:OVERSECTION. I'd question whether merely stating the obvious is enough given "an article about a book that fails to summarize the book's contents [...] is likely to be rejected as insufficiently comprehensive", but I'll hear from another promoter. I also don't see how any of the hooks on this page meet WP:DYKINT; I can suggest the following: ALT2: ... that a New York Times reviewer felt that Jerzy Kosinski: A Biography was perhaps "written in unusual haste" despite being written five years after Kosinski's death?, but you'll need an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 08:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer, Citation added but isn't repeated the same footnote in two consecutive sentences also against MoS? And tnx for the hook idea, it is fine and we can consider it as well. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I know this might take a significant amount of research, but is it possible to skim the primary source, and offer some more detail about the book's contents? I imagine it overlaps with his actual life story, and we wouldn't need a full read to gather that. Reading the bio would be more to look for a few examples of the author's overall thesis and tone. A couple sentences in this article would do it. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:33, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Shooterwalker, It's possible, and probably should be done for GA and certainly for FA, neither of which I am however interested in taking this article to. There's also a question whether sourcing a plot to the work itself is or isn't OR; I've heard different opinions on this.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:08, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Piotrus Sorry this process has been drawn out. I still think ALT1a is fine, and nothing against ALT2 either. Ideally, the article would try to summarize the author's thesis and tone, even just with one or two sentences. But I believe it is at least close to meeting WP:DYKCOMPLETE, as is. Shooterwalker (talk) 23:50, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- I know this might take a significant amount of research, but is it possible to skim the primary source, and offer some more detail about the book's contents? I imagine it overlaps with his actual life story, and we wouldn't need a full read to gather that. Reading the bio would be more to look for a few examples of the author's overall thesis and tone. A couple sentences in this article would do it. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:33, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- That sounds good to me. I approve ALT1a.
- Shooterwalker, Sure, it's likely more interesting that what I came up with. I've no problem "adopting" it so you can approve it :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Piotrus How about this:
- That's okay. We can work without it. I think the hook would end up overlapping with aspects of the subject of the book, but let me see what I can come up with. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:01, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Shooterwalker, The problem is that the reviews do not, as far as I recall, provide any comprehensive information on the book's contents, which I assume is a biography of Kosinski, and the reviewers assume everyone will figure that out, I guess. They do not talk about chapter structure or such, just occasionally engage with some parts of his biography presented in the book the reviewer found interesting. And there is the issue of trying to make this article (and hook) be about the book and not about Kosinski's biography, which after all is a different article... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:40, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Edward M. Zimmerman, Marie Kunkel Zimmerman
- ... that husband and wife Edward M. and Marie Zimmerman co-wrote the suffragist anthem "Votes for Women: Suffrage Rallying Song" (1915) (pictured)?
- Source: Crew, Danny O. (2015). Suffragist Sheet Music: An Illustrated Catalogue of Published Music Associated with the Women's Rights and Suffrage Movement in America, 1795-1921, with Complete Lyrics. McFarland & Company. p. 337. ISBN 9781476607443.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Travis Clayton
- Comment: Second QPQ: Template:Did you know nominations/C. J. Hanson
4meter4 (talk) 20:59, 26 May 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Articles nominated for double hook are new enough and long enough. Passes earwig, no close paraphrasing was found. The hook is interesting, cited inline, and verified. Image appropriately licensed. 2 QPQs done for each article nominated. GTG. Pseud 14 (talk) 23:52, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Mary A. Wray
- ... that Mary A. Wray was the oldest living American actress at the time of her death in 1892? Source: The Oldest Actress Dead, Recent death: The Oldest Actress
- ALT1: ... that Mary A. Wray, a celebrated American actress of the 19th century, was considered the oldest representative of the American stage at the time of her death in 1892? Source: A Woman of the Century
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Henry Street salamander tunnels
X (talk) 05:20, 21 May 2024 (UTC).
New enough, long enough, and neutral with all reliable sources. The hook is directly cited. I assume good faith on the book reference. I prefer the first hook. A QPQ is needed. SL93 (talk) 18:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- @SL93: QPQ done. Re AGF, you could also access them by Wikipedia Library repositories such as Newspapers.com and NewspaperArchive.com. But Google News archive in itself is freely accessible and reliable. And yes, let's go with ALT0. Regards. X (talk) 06:43, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
American Colossus: Big Bill Tilden and the Creation of Modern Tennis
- ... that American Colossus is a biography of a man who was "the most famous sportsman in the world" and "the most forgotten great athlete in American history"? Source:
Throughout the decade, Tilden was the most famous sportsman in the world
, Simon Briggs, "Brilliant New Biography Underlines Debt Tennis Owes to Big Bill Tilden", The Telegraph, February 23, 2018; andmost forgotten great athlete in American history
, Allen M. Hornblum as quoted in Dan Wolken, "Tennis Legend Bill Tilden's Controversial History Resurfaces in a Suitcase" USA Today, October 16, 2019.
Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 04:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC).
Date, size, refs, hook, copyvio spotcheck, QPQ, etc. all fine - GTG. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:30, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 21[edit]
Hamad City
- ... that Hamad City was largely destroyed within minutes?
- ALT1:
... that Colonel Yonatan Steinberg's army-issued weapon was found in Hamad City along with the personal effects of Israeli abductees?Source: The weapon of the commander of the Nahal Brigade who was killed at the beginning of the war, Colonel Yonatan Steinberg, was found in recent days by the commando brigade in 'Hamad City' in Khan Yunis. Along with the weapon of the senior officer, the fighters located effects of Israeli abductees. jdn.co.il (Hebrew translation); Source 2: In one of the nearby buildings, the personal weapon of the late Nahal Commander Yehonatan Steinberg, who was killed in a clash on October 7 was found. Israel Hayom - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Clark House (New Zealand)
- Comment:
I personally prefer ALT0.After carefully re-reading the source (and watching the video linked in the article) I am proposing the following ALT in place of ALT0:
- ALT0a:
... that five Hamad City apartment buildings were destroyed in the space of just two minutes?Havradim leaf a message 12:56, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- ALT0a:
Havradim leaf a message 23:05, 26 May 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: I see no evidence of instability. ALT0 is best but may need context as in "Hamad City in Gaza" but I will leave that to a promotor. ALT0a is not confirmed as it says, five airstrikes but not five buildings. I also did not find ALT1 interesting. Lightburst (talk) 23:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Golden Girls (play)
- ... that to prepare for their roles as athletes in the play Golden Girls, Kenneth Branagh and Jimmy Yuill undertook fitness training led by Brian Blessed?
- Source: Branagh, Kenneth (1991). Beginning. New York: St. Martin's Press. ISBN 978-0-312-05822-7., p.153: "Jimmy and I enlisted the help of Brian Blessed, the Company’s fitness fanatic, who agreed to take us through a training programme"
- ALT1: ... that before reading the script for the play Golden Girls, at least nine of the cast members were under the impression that they would be taking the lead role? Source: Branagh, Kenneth (1991). Beginning. New York: St. Martin's Press. ISBN 978-0-312-05822-7., p.152: "I asked around. Jimmy Yuill, Josette Simon, Polly James, Kate Bufferey. They were all playing the lead, and that made nine of us in total."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Municipal Asphalt Plant
- Comment: Suggestions for ALT hooks welcome.
BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 10:47, 21 May 2024 (UTC).
New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Must AGF on the offline source. No textual issues. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:42, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Jacob Green Jackson
- ... that Jackson Demonstration State Forest was named in honor of American lumberman Jacob Green Jackson (pictured)?
- Source: California Coastal Commission, ed. (1987). California Coastal Resource Guide. University of California Press. p. 119. ISBN 978-0-520-06186-6. Retrieved 21 May 2024.
SL93 (talk) 19:00, 21 May 2024 (UTC).
Article was created on same day as nom. It's adequately long and does not have indications suggesting any issues. AGF on the book sources, hook is verified. QPQ complete. Everything is good to go. B3251(talk) 13:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Akinada Tobishima Kaido
- ... that the island-hopping Akinada Tobishima Kaido road near Hiroshima was named after its resemblance to stepping stones in a garden?
- Source: "Akinada Tobishima Kaido: The collective term for the seven bridges connecting Kure City and the islands of the Aki Sea in Hiroshima Prefecture. ""Tobishima"" is derived from ""tobi-ishi"", meaning ""stepping stones,"" due to the islands' appearance resembling the stepping stones of a garden.[1]
Jpatokal (talk) 07:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC).
New enough. Barely long enough prose length (but definitely long enough when the bridge list is included). Well written. Citations check out. (I used Google Translate for the Japanese sources.) But the article needs a few additional citations. First, add citations for the eighth bridge and the existing seven bridges. And add Citation #1 to the hook (about the stepping stones.) Right now, you have just Citation #6. Other than the needed citations, others look good. No obvious copyright issues; the hook is interesting, and QPQ has been done. We're very close. Hybernator (talk) 21:22, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Hybernator: Thanks for the review! I've added the citations as requested. Jpatokal (talk) 01:11, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Jpatokal, thanks for the updates. Could you add the specific page numbers for Citation #4 ("大崎上島町 第2次長期総合計画")? It's a 130-page doc in Japanese, and it'll be helpful to the reader to provide the specific pages. Thanks. Hybernator (talk) 16:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Hybernator: Done. Jpatokal (talk) 06:09, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. Just reviewed your updates. The article reads well. AGF on Japanese sources. Good to go. Hybernator (talk) 22:17, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Jpatokal and Hybernator: Where is your reference for the sentence beginning "The route is unofficially known" and for the eighth row of "Bridges"?--Launchballer 08:00, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- The eighth bridge is covered in the prose section with references. Since it doesn't exist yet, there are no facts/figures to list in the table.
- As for the Ura-Shimanami nickname, it's strictly unofficial (and not entirely complimentary), but I've added a ref for it as well. Jpatokal (talk) 12:50, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: Image: Japan has a fairly restrictive FOP so I am unsure about the image- if we consider it to be a building it would be allowed. Also this article is barely 15XX characters. Are we sure it is WP:DYKCOMPLETE? Bruxton (talk) 14:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- "Architectural works" (建築作品) covers more than just buildings, per this article bridges are explicitly included. As discussed earlier, the article has sufficient prose and an extensive table detailing the bridges. Is there something specific you think is missing from the article? Jpatokal (talk) 10:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: Image: Japan has a fairly restrictive FOP so I am unsure about the image- if we consider it to be a building it would be allowed. Also this article is barely 15XX characters. Are we sure it is WP:DYKCOMPLETE? Bruxton (talk) 14:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Jpatokal and Hybernator: Where is your reference for the sentence beginning "The route is unofficially known" and for the eighth row of "Bridges"?--Launchballer 08:00, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
References
Articles created/expanded on May 22[edit]
Deir ed Darb
![The facade of Deir ed Darb, a monumental Jewish tomb from the Second Temple period](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Qarawat-Bani-Hassan-Deir-ad-Derb-094803.jpg/187px-Qarawat-Bani-Hassan-Deir-ad-Derb-094803.jpg)
- ... that Deir ed Darb, Arabic for "monastery of the road", is in fact a Jewish monumental tomb dating to the Second Temple period?
- Source: Raviv D., 2013, "Magnificent Tombs from the Second Temple Period in Western Samaria - New Insights", In the Highland's Depth - Ephraim Range and Binyamin Research Studies, Vol. 3, Ariel-Talmon ,pp. 109-142. (Hebrew); Peleg-Barkat, Orit; Raviv (2019). "שלושה פריטים ארכיטקטוניים מן התקופה הרומית הקדומה מאזור הכפר קרוות בני חסן" (PDF). במעבה ההר. 9: 43–58; Palmer, H (1881). "The survey of western Palestine". p. 228.
- Reviewed:
Owenglyndur (talk) 13:24, 22 May 2024 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
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- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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- It appears that a paragraph uses content copied without attribution from Qarawat Bani Hassan
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Overall: Mariamnei (talk) 11:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Mariamnei: Did you mean to post a "maybe" status (purple slash) instead of an "again" status (red arrow)? The again status is for DYK that need another new reviewer, while the slash is for indicating that there is a concern with the article/nomination. Z1720 (talk) 23:27, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: Hey there! This DYK overall looks pretty good, but since it's my first time doing a DYK review, I thought it'd be better to get another view. What do you think? Mariamnei (talk) 18:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Mariamnei: Since you outlined some concerns above, I'll let the nominator, Owenglyndur, address them. Z1720 (talk) 19:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for your comments and help to get the DYK right. I did not know i'm not allowed to copy some sentances from another Wikipedia article, especialy whemn it is so relevant for the article i wrote. I will not do it again in the future. Owenglyndur (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Owenglyndur:, thanks for explaining that! Awesome, I see the pic is up on the article too. Looks like we're good to go!
Mariamnei (talk) 08:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Owenglyndur:, thanks for explaining that! Awesome, I see the pic is up on the article too. Looks like we're good to go!
- Hi, thank you for your comments and help to get the DYK right. I did not know i'm not allowed to copy some sentances from another Wikipedia article, especialy whemn it is so relevant for the article i wrote. I will not do it again in the future. Owenglyndur (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Mariamnei: Since you outlined some concerns above, I'll let the nominator, Owenglyndur, address them. Z1720 (talk) 19:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: Hey there! This DYK overall looks pretty good, but since it's my first time doing a DYK review, I thought it'd be better to get another view. What do you think? Mariamnei (talk) 18:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Just a question; the article refers to a "Dar" ("Dar - late 70's", "in Dar's opinion", "led Dar to conclude that"), but I cannot find any reference to any "Dar"?, cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:51, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Also, it would have been nice to wikilink the SWP authors (Palmer, Conder, Kitchener) -and the page-links. Also; isn't the 3 and 7 references the same (except the page-no)? Why then is one marked in Hebrew, while the other is not? Also ref.3 has a red warning: "Cite journal requires journal=", cheers, Huldra (talk) 23:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, as i wrote in an earlier comment by you, i added Dar to the citations. Further more if you look at the citations you can see that Conder, Claude Reignier; Kitchener, Horatio Herbert; Palmer, Edward Henry; Besant, Walter, show In citation 7.
- I still cannot see any Dar in the citations. Also, nowhere have you linked Claude Reignier Conder, Herbert Kitchener, 1st Earl Kitchener, Edward Henry Palmer,etc, Huldra (talk) 22:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, as i wrote in an earlier comment by you, i added Dar to the citations. Further more if you look at the citations you can see that Conder, Claude Reignier; Kitchener, Horatio Herbert; Palmer, Edward Henry; Besant, Walter, show In citation 7.
- @Owenglyndur, Mariamnei, and Huldra: Just to say I don't intend on promoting this while there is a {{clump}} in the lead section - which by rights shouldn't have any references in the first place.--Launchballer 08:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, i think i solved the Clump issue. To remove all citations from the lead?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Owenglyndur (talk • contribs)
- Technically compliant with that policy, however you now have a {{which?}} template which needs rectifying before this can be promoted.--Launchballer 13:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- There is at least one instance of a copyright violation as detailed on the article's talk page. It may be restricted to the specified text but I have not fully investigated so more may be effected. Until that is resolved the article should not appear in DYK. Richard Nevell (talk) 20:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Technically compliant with that policy, however you now have a {{which?}} template which needs rectifying before this can be promoted.--Launchballer 13:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, i think i solved the Clump issue. To remove all citations from the lead?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Owenglyndur (talk • contribs)
I just realised; the artickle has the cats Tombs in Israel and Archaeological sites in Israel(!!) Neeedless to say(?), the place is not in Israel. If the author makes another such error, I will ask for a topic-ban from the IP area. Huldra (talk) 20:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Lois E. Trott
- ... that American educator Lois E. Trott (pictured) ran the first lodging house for homeless girls in America, providing shelter and support for over 1,000 girls annually, all without receiving any payment? Source: A Woman of the Century
- ALT0a: ... that American educator Lois E. Trott (pictured) managed the first lodging house for homeless girls in America, providing shelter and support for over 1,000 girls annually, without receiving any remuneration? Source: A Woman of the Century
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sam Kee Building
X (talk) 14:59, 22 May 2024 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
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Overall: The article was created on 22 May 2024. It has a readable prose size of 3211 characters. QPQ not yet done. WP:EARWIG shows now copyvios. More comments later.
Each paragraph has a source. Some parts of the lead and the section "Early life and education" sound very similar to the text in Moulton 1893, p. 722. This needs to be rewritten to avoid WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE. I didn't check the rest of the article so please make sure that the problem is not found in other parts as well. The hooks are interesting and supported by the source. Both hooks are too long: they should be below 200 characters and ideally below 160 characters. The picture is freely licenced, used in the article, and clear. Phlsph7 (talk) 13:44, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Phlsph7: thanks for your evaluation. Some parts of the lead and the section "Early life and education" sound very similar Because they are similar. I've used it as a source material, and "the article merely presents standard facts for a topic like this in standard sequence. The article does not copy any creative words or phrases, similes or metaphors." And a direct comparison with the Moulton source shows no violation. However, all of these becomes irrelevant here because the dictionary is in public domain and properly attributed in the source section. Regardless PD or not, the article does not closely paraphrase, rather presents standard facts in an orderly sequence. WP:LIMITED exists. Although redundant, I've now added a PD template as well in the ref section (which is usually done if it's a case of somewhat direct copy-paste, although this isn't the case here). Re the blurb's lentgh, while nominating I made sure they are under 200 characters. And yes shorter blurbs would be better. We may simply remove the "American educator" bits: ALT0b ... that Lois E. Trott (pictured) ran the first lodging house for homeless girls in America, providing shelter and support for over 1,000 girls annually, all without receiving any payment? ALT0c... that Lois E. Trott (pictured) ran the first lodging house for homeless girls in America, providing shelter and support without receiving any payment?
Let me know which one you prefer or if have your own opinion. Regards. X (talk) 07:24, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- The template should solve the close-paraphrase problem. I wasn't aware that the phrase "(pictured)" does not count towards the character limit (per WP:DYK200), which means that the original hooks pass the test. I think all that remains is the QPQ. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:55, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 23[edit]
Youn Sung-ho
- ... that a DJ 'monk', NewJeanNim, was credited with reviving interests of Buddhism among South Korean youths? Source: South Korean DJ NewJeansNim barred from performing at Singapore nightclub
- Reviewed:
– robertsky (talk) 17:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC).
Good to go. Article is new enough, just long enough, and has the proper sourcing. Earwig tool shows a very low copyvio%. The article is presentable, and the hook is both sourced properly and particularly interesting. QPQ is unnecessary here. Should be all good. Soulbust (talk) 15:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
New to DYK. Article looks fine but the hook is a bit awkward - maybe try ...that "NewJeansNim," a DJ[ing] monk, was credited with reviving interest in Buddhism among South Korean youth[s]? (Bracketed parts are ones I might add or remove.) Also the guy's nickname is NewJeansNim (not NewJeanNim) and the article uses his real name as the title (though I've seen a fair amount of DYKs that were TV Tropes-style potholed). Wuju Daisuki (talk) 00:46, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 24[edit]
Avatar Studios (production company)
- ... that Avatar Studios is developing three animated films set in the world of Avatar: The Last Airbender?
- ALT1: ... that Avatar Studios, a production company dedicated to developing new projects set in the world of Avatar: The Last Airbender, was launched in 2021? Source: https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/avatar-last-airbender-legend-of-korra-nickelodeon-1234914149/
- Reviewed:
Zingo156 (talk) 16:38, 24 May 2024 (UTC).
- This looks on track. No QPQ required. Article meets requirements as far as length and sourcing. ALT1 will age a little better, but there might be a clearer way to phrase it. Did you want to take a shot at re-working it a bit? I don't mind trying to help. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:25, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- "Did you know that in 2021, Nickelodeon launched Avatar Studios to produce new projects set in the world of Avatar: The Last Airbender". Does that work? Zingo156 (talk) 13:39, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- That is much improved. Approving ALT1a:
- ALT1a ... that in 2021, Nickelodeon launched Avatar Studios to produce new projects set in the world of Avatar: The Last Airbender?
- Good work. Shooterwalker (talk) 20:43, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- Shooterwalker, if you are approving this nomination, you need to use the appropriate icon to indicate this and so the bot can tell the review is complete. If you aren't, what else might need to be done? Have you completed the neutrality and copyvio checks? The hook sourcing check? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- My mistake, and I can give it the approval icon.
I can confirm this meets all the requirements, including copyvio and WP:NPOV. I am standing by in case there is anything else. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:34, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- My mistake, and I can give it the approval icon.
- Shooterwalker, if you are approving this nomination, you need to use the appropriate icon to indicate this and so the bot can tell the review is complete. If you aren't, what else might need to be done? Have you completed the neutrality and copyvio checks? The hook sourcing check? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- That is much improved. Approving ALT1a:
- "Did you know that in 2021, Nickelodeon launched Avatar Studios to produce new projects set in the world of Avatar: The Last Airbender". Does that work? Zingo156 (talk) 13:39, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
Sam Kee Building
- ... that the Sam Kee Building (pictured), recognized by Guinness World Records as the "narrowest commercial building in the world", was built on a bet between two businessmen?
- Source: Moliere, Ashley (May 25, 2021). "Built on a Bet: An inside Look at the World's Narrowest Building". CBC News.
- ALT1: ... that the title of "narrowest commercial building in the world" is contested between the Sam Kee Building (pictured) in Vancouver, British Columbia, and the Hendel Building in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania? Source: Mellon, Steve (May 30, 2004). "Here: In Downtown". Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. p. F9. Archived from the original on February 5, 2010.
- ALT2: ... that Chinese-Canadian businessman Sam Kee built the Sam Kee Building (pictured), a narrow spite house, after the city took his land without compensating him? Source: "Sam Kee Building". Canadian Register of Historic Places. Parks Canada.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ryu Sung-hyun
- Comment: A very curious building in my hometown with many interesting details, too many to fit in one DYK nomination. The hooks offered here are ordered by my personal preference.
Yue🌙 03:34, 24 May 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The fivefold is borderline met here as per my calculation. All other criteria are fulfilled. I've done some minor copy-editing. ALT0 is the most intriguing of the 3. X (talk) 08:10, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Xoak and Yue: It is short of the 5x expansion by my computation. Expansion start:2190 finish:9508. For a 5x expansion it should be 10950 characters. So 10950-9508=1442 characters short. I will see if editors are ok with an IAR exemption. Bruxton (talk) 18:56, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Bruxton: I calculated based on prose size, per WP:DYK5X. I used the prose's word count, which was 296 words before my edits and 1501 words after my initial expansion. I now see that the criteria is characters and not words, which I would be short by 73 (1905 × 5 = 9525; 9525 − 9452 = 73). However, I would argue that, whether it be 73 by my calculation or 1442 by yours, the article has been significantly expanded in the spirit of the guideline. Yue🌙 20:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Xoak and Yue: You can get this tool so you see how I worked out the math. User:Shubinator/DYKcheck. It is short 1442 characters not 73. Discussion at WT:DYK seems to be for running your article even though it is short. So I will continue my checks. Bruxton (talk) 22:44, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not sure I have ever seen a sentence cited to a map in this way, source for "In 1912, Vancouver City Council expropriated without compensation 2,199.24 square feet (204.316 m2), or about 79 per cent, of the above-ground portion of the lot." I do not have time to stick with this so will allow another promotor to check this out before promotion. Bruxton (talk) 22:51, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Xoak and Yue: You can get this tool so you see how I worked out the math. User:Shubinator/DYKcheck. It is short 1442 characters not 73. Discussion at WT:DYK seems to be for running your article even though it is short. So I will continue my checks. Bruxton (talk) 22:44, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Bruxton: I calculated based on prose size, per WP:DYK5X. I used the prose's word count, which was 296 words before my edits and 1501 words after my initial expansion. I now see that the criteria is characters and not words, which I would be short by 73 (1905 × 5 = 9525; 9525 − 9452 = 73). However, I would argue that, whether it be 73 by my calculation or 1442 by yours, the article has been significantly expanded in the spirit of the guideline. Yue🌙 20:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 25[edit]
Sud 777
- ... that a critic said that the hors d'oeuvres served at Sud 777 could function as desserts and vice versa?
- Source: [6] ABC (newspaper): "Cocina que rompe esquemas en cuanto al orden y en la que algunos entrantes podrían ser postres y algunos postres entrantes [A cuisine that breaks the rules in terms of order and in which some starters could be desserts and some desserts could be starters]"
(CC) Tbhotch™ 04:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC).
New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Hook fact checks out to the Spanish-language source. Not often you get a restaurant article with images of dishes you didn't even take! Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 26[edit]
Brittany Luse
- ... that Brittany Luse's podcast The Nod was praised for its exploration of "the diversity and richness of the Black experience"? Source: “ Like the podcast that inspired the Quibi show, it’s a project that draws from the diversity and richness of the Black experience” Teen Vogue
Innisfree987 (talk) 03:03, 26 May 2024 (UTC).
@Innisfree987 and CaptainAngus: New enough (from draft) and long enough. QPQ present. Hook fact checks out and is interesting. My concern is that I think there are too many quotes in the critical reception section, although one or two would work well. Consider shortening a number of quotes and cutting/paraphrasing a few. I'd like to see that fixed before promoting the page. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sammi Brie, I have added a sentence of summary and replaced one quote and portions of two more with paraphrasing. Innisfree987 (talk) 01:07, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
This helps. Still longer than I'd have done maybe, but it does help enough. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:31, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Command information newspaper
- ... that 80,000 copies of a command information newspaper were dumped into the South China Sea during the Vietnam War?
- Source: Newsday (2005)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jaelyn Brown
- Comment: 5x expansion start on May 26.
Cielquiparle (talk) 22:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC).
5x expanded, article is NPOV and reliably-sourced, hook is interesting, reliably-sourced in-article. Verified QPQ required in order to pass. ViperSnake151 Talk 23:32, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks ViperSnake151. Have added QPQ above. Also changed "in" to "into" in the hook as I think it's better. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Approved. ViperSnake151 Talk 05:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:NEWSORG, the source would be primary. It could be attributed to the author, but it's a hard fact. Could the citation be switched to a secondary source? Rjjiii (talk) 18:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Courtesy pings to @Cielquiparle and ViperSnake151: Bruxton (talk) 15:13, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks ViperSnake151. Have added QPQ above. Also changed "in" to "into" in the hook as I think it's better. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 27[edit]
Zwei Gesänge, Op. 1 (Schoenberg)
- ... that the two songs of Op. 1 by Arnold Schönberg (pictured), "Abschied" (Farewell) and "Dank" (Thanks), were first performed in Vienna in 1900, with Zemlinsky at the piano, to a hostile reaction of the audience? Source: Gerlach
- Reviewed: Alexandru Talex
- Comment: We are in a Schönberg year. I couldn't believe his Op. 1 (not 12-tone yet, rather expressionist but no room for that in a hook) had no article. Planning to write more about text and music but busy the next few days. I believe we should picture him this year ;)
Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC).
Great work as always on these pieces. QPQ, article eligibility, source, and general presentation checks out. The hook seems like it could be condensed just a tad to ease readability; maybe something along the lines of "ALT1 ... the first public performance of two songs from Arnold Schoenberg's (pictured) Op. 1 was met with hostile reactions from the audience?" The picture is pretty nice! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 23:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you fort the review! Yes, it could be condensed, but what would be left had much in common with other pieces, and I find the position of pictured awkward. We should also not say that in Wikipedia voice when it was the wording of one critic, also the ridicule in the other's wording was perhaps a bit more unique. "two songs from" is correct but misleading, because the opus is exactly these two songs. Please give me some more days to write about text and music, both loaded with emotion which the titles suggest a bit, I think. (But Schönberg knew why he didn't call them simply lieder (songs) but - like Brahms sometimes - Gesänge, a more sophisticate form for which English has no word, or has it? Then we could use that.) - You could also listen. I did, see the Liviu Holender hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Zemlinsky was not only the pianist, but Schönberg's teacher, the dedicatee of the songs, and to become his brother in law. Some will associate that with the name. He is also one of the composers whose music was banned by the Nazis, see the Holender hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:42, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have to agree with Generalissima here. The original hook has too much detail and is thus too dense. The alternative wording proposed is direct to the point and makes the point of the hook clearer. Readers might get lost with the first hook, the second hook is much more understandable. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- While all this is true and not new: we celebrate 150 years of Schönberg and his music, and it's nothing new and no surprise that people react to it with hostility. I was surprised that his first works were songs. I was surprised that they were recorded by four of the greatest names singing and playing (but you may not know them so I dropped the idea of saying that). I was surprised to learn how close Zemlinsky was to him, not just teacher but friend and later family. - Did you listen? - The music of these two composers were banned by the Nazis, - we could do a bit more positive for it than saying the reaction was hostility, no? - On 29 May The Rite of Spring was premiered to an almost riot, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:23, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- As a compromise, can't we just go with Generalissima's wording? It basically says the same thing as the original hook except more concisely, and if the point is to promote Schoenberg, they still do it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- MONTENSEM is in the process of expanding. We'll see what material we'll get. This is a substantial composition, and just to say that the ignorant public didn't like it seems too little, on top of too unspecific.--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Alma Mahler described the two songs of Op. 1 by Schönberg (pictured) as "lavished with incredible pomp but without any concession to the ear that is accustomed to gentle melodies"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- As a compromise, can't we just go with Generalissima's wording? It basically says the same thing as the original hook except more concisely, and if the point is to promote Schoenberg, they still do it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- While all this is true and not new: we celebrate 150 years of Schönberg and his music, and it's nothing new and no surprise that people react to it with hostility. I was surprised that his first works were songs. I was surprised that they were recorded by four of the greatest names singing and playing (but you may not know them so I dropped the idea of saying that). I was surprised to learn how close Zemlinsky was to him, not just teacher but friend and later family. - Did you listen? - The music of these two composers were banned by the Nazis, - we could do a bit more positive for it than saying the reaction was hostility, no? - On 29 May The Rite of Spring was premiered to an almost riot, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:23, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have to agree with Generalissima here. The original hook has too much detail and is thus too dense. The alternative wording proposed is direct to the point and makes the point of the hook clearer. Readers might get lost with the first hook, the second hook is much more understandable. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
I still think Generalissima's wording is the more interesting option here compared to the quote so let's just go with that. I've taken the liberty of labeling that proposal as ALT1, and relabeling the new ALT1 as ALT2. I've verified ALT1 in the source and it's the one most likely to get readers to click on the article. The rest of the review is per Generalissima. With that said, this is without prejudice towards whatever new hooks come out of the expansion, and this does not preclude approval of said hooks depending on how they turn out. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:40, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- We talk about a key composer's Opus one, a piece of significance. Can you - anybody - please explain to me why we would find a fact interesting that this piece shares with hundreds of other compositions?? Instead of saying something that is unique to this piece? - "lavished with incredible pomp but without any concession ..." - composing without any concession is what Schoenberg would do for life ;) - Alma Mahler, - I dropped the pipe in ALT2. We had this gorgeous DYK about her, remember? She is known and interesting, and she phrased an interesting observation interestingly, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:30, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Watamou Lamien, Revolutionary Military Organization
- ... that the Upper Voltan National Radio chief editor Watamou Lamien was the liaison between the ROC group of young radical military officers and the clandestine Voltan Revolutionary Communist Party?
- Source: James Genova. Making New People: Politics, Cinema, and Liberation in Burkina Faso, 1983–1987. MSU Press, 2022.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Songbird (TV program), Template:Did you know nominations/Battle of Stainmore
Soman (talk) 01:41, 27 May 2024 (UTC).
Both articles are in good shape, I don't see any evidence of copyvio or anything that would need fixing before running. AGF on the hook, but it's supported and cited in both articles. QpQs check off. Both articles are eligible in terms of length and newness. Seems good to go here. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 23:13, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 29[edit]
Tatto Suwarto Pamuji
- ... that after completing his tenure as regent, Tatto Suwarto Pamuji walked 96 kilometres (60 mi) to fulfill a vow he made? Source: [7]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/John White (Kentucky politician)
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 03:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC).
Article seems in good enough shape. Hook is interesting, and although I am limited to English, the news article seems to directly confirm the hook even without knowledge of Indonesian. No evidence of copyvio, fully sourced, and the hook fact is correctly cited in-article. Just needs that QPQ. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Generalissima: QPQ added. Juxlos (talk) 08:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Good to go! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 14:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Generalissima: QPQ added. Juxlos (talk) 08:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Charleen Kinser
- ... that a mail-order catalogue offered a "Rocking Ram" toy designed by Charleen Kinser for $1600 in 1985?
- Source: Gilman-Tompkins, Sherri (8 May 1985). "Tiniest Yuppies Treated Royally in this Catalogue". Chicago Tribune – via ProQuest.
Take the $1,600 Rocking Ram by Forever Toys, which will be available in the next catalogue. The animal's fleece is made of three types of sheepskin, hand pieced and stitched.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: QPQ now done: A Modern Mephistopheles Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:33, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Found an open url for the source:[8] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:40, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC).
Interesting enough — it might be good to include a conversion template for readers unaware of what $1600 means in an 1980s US context, but I don't think this is strictly required. Hook does check out with the source, and the article is long enough, eligible, and fully cited. I don't see any evidence of copyvio. Looks good to go. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:58, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Added inflation template to article:[9]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 30[edit]
List of individual body parts
- ... that the Sourtoe (pictured) is one of many body parts found around the world?
- ALT1: ... that a toe used for cocktails (pictured) is one of many body parts found around the world?
- ALT2: ... that a human toe (pictured) is one of many body parts that are tourist attractions? "Up in the far north of Canada, there is a bar where you can order a shot of whiskey garnished with a real human toe."
- ALT3: ... that body parts such as arm bones (example pictured) are sometimes placed in arm-shaped reliquaries? Source: ...while a fragment of the bone in his left arm was eventually transferred to San Domenico Maggiore in Naples, where it is still preserved inside an arm-shaped reliquary made of bronze, silver and glass in the church’s Sacred Relics Chamber.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Melanie L. Campbell
gobonobo + c 23:02, 4 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Everything looks good to me! A very interesting list. Preference is for either toe hook. Noting that DYK Check shows less than 1500 characters, but the text in the list proper is well over the limit — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Melanie L. Campbell
- ... that Melanie L. Campbell was arrested for civil disobedience while protesting against ongoing proposed voter restrictions?
- Source: https://www.essence.com/news/black-women-leading-the-fight-for-voting-rights/ Since the November elections, lawmakers in 49 states have proposed over 400 measures to restrict voting access... Those detained included Rep. Joyce Beatty (D-OH), Melanie Campbell, Clayola Brown, Barbara Arnwine, Linda Sarsour, and several others who engaged in civil disobedience.
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CaptainAngus (talk) 22:47, 3 June 2024 (UTC).
Article is new enough and long enough. It is presentable, well-sourced, written neutrally, and BLP-compliant. Earwig looks good. The hook is cited and interesting. QPQ is not required. The article's image is freely licensed. @CaptainAngus: The hook phrase "protesting against ongoing proposed voter restrictions" reads a little awkward to me. I suggest dropping the "against ongoing" or something like "...that Melanie L. Campbell was arrested for civil disobedience while protesting proposed restrictions on voting rights?" gobonobo + c 16:55, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Gobonobo: I'm good with your suggested streamlining! Thank you very much! CaptainAngus (talk) 22:24, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Melanie L. Campbell was arrested for civil disobedience while protesting proposed voter restrictions?
- ALT2: ... that Melanie L. Campbell was arrested for civil disobedience while protesting proposed restrictions on voting rights?
Articles created/expanded on May 31[edit]
Medieval garden
- ... that much of what we know of medieval gardens comes from illuminated manuscripts?
- Landsberg, Sylvia, The Medieval Garden, British Museum Press, ISBN 9780714120805, p. 7; ...manuscript illustrations are invaluable ... [and] are to be thought of ...as vivid documentary evidence"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zhou Wennan
- Comment: Text mainly the first article of User:1948dlj. Slightly late nom, sorry
Johnbod (talk) 03:31, 8 June 2024 (UTC).
Article moved from draft 31 May. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. Image good. I marked several paragraphs that need citations. Once those are done and QPQ added, this will be ready. Thriley (talk) 20:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Looks great. All set. Thriley (talk) 01:21, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Edwin Ford Piper
- ... that American poet Edwin Ford Piper collected 828 folksongs, with most of them coming from Iowa and Nebraska?
SL93 (talk) 02:30, 31 May 2024 (UTC).
Interesting enough hook, but you need to provide a source. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:51, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Generalissima I did in the article. https://pubs.lib.uiowa.edu/bai/article/id/29045/ SL93 (talk) 04:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- SL93 I know, but it also ideally would have a source given in the submission above. The article otherwise is in good shape and eligible, the QPQ checks out, and I see no evidence of copyvio. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:45, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Generalissima Can you give a final approval template if this is approved? SL93 (talk) 20:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- SL93 I'm still waiting for you to add the source to your submission itself. I know it's in the article, but it needs to be added here as well for reference reasons. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:19, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Generalissima No. That is not a requirement. SL93 (talk) 00:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- BlueMoonset Did something change? SL93 (talk) 00:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Generalissima If at some point in the future the source is removed or altered, it would make verifying the hook after the fact extremely difficult. It's an edge case, sure, but it's best to make sure everything on here has a listed source. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Again, no. I'm not doing it on principle at this point, because it isn't required. It is already here anyway up above. SL93 (talk) 00:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
After some consultation, it seems that including the source in the nomination is standard practice, but not strictly required. I apologize for my ignorance on the matter. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Generalissima If at some point in the future the source is removed or altered, it would make verifying the hook after the fact extremely difficult. It's an edge case, sure, but it's best to make sure everything on here has a listed source. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- SL93 I'm still waiting for you to add the source to your submission itself. I know it's in the article, but it needs to be added here as well for reference reasons. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:19, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Generalissima Can you give a final approval template if this is approved? SL93 (talk) 20:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- SL93 I know, but it also ideally would have a source given in the submission above. The article otherwise is in good shape and eligible, the QPQ checks out, and I see no evidence of copyvio. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:45, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Generalissima I did in the article. https://pubs.lib.uiowa.edu/bai/article/id/29045/ SL93 (talk) 04:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Republica weatbrooki, Republica (plant)
- ... that while both are named from the same place, the genus Republica (pictured) is not the genus Republica?
- Source: Archibald & Cannings 2021 doi:10.11646/zootaxa.4966.3.11 materials and methods for location data "We examined a single fossil in lacustrine shale recovered from exposure B4131 of the Tom Thumb Tuff Member
of the Klondike Mountain Formation at Republic, Washington, U.S.A."
Wolfe & Wehr 1987 doi:10.3133/b1597 page 2 fig 1 shows the location in Republic of site 8428 of the Klondike Mountain Formation, page 22 gives the genus etymology and 23 the type locality occurrence in Republic- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Buellia aethalea
- Comment: Also reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Calamophyton
Kevmin § 00:13, 31 May 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: My first time reviewing a dual-article nomination, and I appreciate the effort which must have gone into it!
Both articles moved to mainspace yesterday. QPQ is done. No plagiarism detected via Earwig. For both articles, length, referencing and image licensing are all good. For the insect, I think that the first paragraph of "Description" and of "Paleoenvironment" are both a bit long and ought to be split up a bit, and that "Paleoenvironment" should have at least one image - even the location map over at Klondike Mountain Formation would be really helpful. For the plant, you really should move the distribution images a couple of paragraphs down to avoid MOS:SANDWICH, and the last sentence of the lead is missing a period. Still, I would not hold up the nomination for those reasons alone.
To me, it is the hook which has multiple significant issues. It may not be grammatically correct (shouldn't it be named after the same place, not named from the same place
?), it is really confusing and vague, as you have no way to tell what place is actually being referred to without clicking on both links, and I feel that a lot of readers would just say "So what?" when they see it as currently written. Suggested wording: Alt1 "...that extinct plants and damselflies from the Eocene were discovered and named after Republic in Washington?"
I also think that both articles should have a sentence which makes this connection between the two more explicit than the mere hatnote at the top. Lastly, you should at least add DOI and ISBN links to your DYK citations. Right now, there is no way to tell which citation refers to which fossil without going through the articles' references, and we should not have to do that. InformationToKnowledge (talk) 13:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- InformationToKnowledge The hook as written is a play on the hemihomonym use of the genus name Republica for both a plant and an animal, but I like alt1 as well. I've added the dois for each source and a map to Republica weatbrooki, plus added splits in the Description and Paleoenvironment sections. A sentence calling out the hemihomonymy has been added to each article under classification. The image/map placement for Republics (plant) is more problematic though. I edit on a wide screen desktop monitor, and my view of the article has the maps already almost all the way down to the start of References. Ideally I was wanting a single map, but I wasn't able to find one I could make work for the West coast sites plus Alaska.--Kevmin § 18:37, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Taking conciseness into account and a matching the details of the articles:
Alt2 "...that fossil plants (pictured) and damselflies from the Ypresian were named after Republic in Washington state?"
- Kevmin OK, that addresses all my concerns. Thanks for the prompt response! InformationToKnowledge (talk) 17:24, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 1[edit]
Joel Ross (vibraphonist)
- ... that Joel Ross spent over two years waiting to release his debut album after it had already been recorded?
Mach61 16:31, 1 June 2024 (UTC).
- @Mach61: Nice article! While I think ALT0 is fine, might I suggest something along the lines of
- ALT1: ... that professional vibraphonist Joel Ross has called the vibraphone his "least favorite instrument"?
- That bit jumped out at me when I read the article and would make me want to learn more if I saw it on the MP (and his approach to it as a "challenge" is a great payoff to the hook, IMO). Just a suggestion to you and a future reviewer! - DrOrinScrivello (talk) 22:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Article was moved to mainspace on the day of nomination and meets minimum length requirements. A basic copyvio check found no issues, only quotations come up. I gave the NPR article a read to verify some basic facts in the article. The article's sourcing is mostly good, although I'm not thrilled with the sourcing of ALT0 to a Youtube interview. ALT1 (which I find far more interesting) is properly cited and interesting. QPQ has been completed. Approved for ALT1. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 16:50, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Stoppa sabbet
- ... that Televerket spent 2 million kronor (about 200,000 US$) between 1985 and 1988 paying youth sports teams to monitor payphones for vandalism?
- Source: "Totalt har televerket satsat två miljoner kronor i kampanjen. [...] Tjejerna i laget var först i Sverige. De är nu inne på tredje året" [‘In total, Televerket has invested SEK 2 million in the campaign. [...] The girls in the team were the first in Sweden. They are now in their third year’]
- Reviewed:
AlexandraAVX (talk) 09:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC).
New enough and long enough. First nomination—and a good one! A topic I would not have expected to read about. Must assume good faith on the offline, Swedish-language sourcing. Is there more concise syntax for the USD conversion? That ginormous syntax can't go on the Main Page, but the result can probably be substed! Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Chenqiao Mutiny
- ... that according to the official history of the Song dynasty, Zhao Kuangyin's soldiers stormed his bedroom and surprised him by proclaiming him emperor?
- Source: Hung, Hing Ming (2014). Ten States, Five Dynasties, One Great Emperor. Algora Publishing. ISBN 978-1-62894-072-5.
- Reviewed:
Lyn1644 (talk) 23:43, 1 June 2024 (UTC).
AGF on the source, as I don't have access to it. Article is eligible, in good shape (fully cited, well written), and I can't find any evidence of copyvio. No QPQ needed. Looks like we're good to go here. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 2[edit]
Nexz
- ... that the Japanese boy band Nexz was created through the program Nizi Project season 2?
lullabying (talk) 22:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough, long enough. QPQ is done. AGF on the Japanese- and Korean-language sources for plagiarism etc. Hook isn't the most earth shattering, but it does seem to be the most interesting fact in the article. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:40, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 3[edit]
Umbilicaria torrefacta
- ... that traditional Scottish tartans and textiles have been naturally dyed with lichens like Umbilicaria torrefacta?
- Source: Grierson, S., Duff, D. G., & Sinclair, R. S. (1985). Natural Dyes of the Scottish Highlands. Textile History, 16(1), 23–43. https://doi.org/10.1179/004049685793701223
- ALT1: ... that historically lichens like Umbilicaria torrefacta have been used to naturally dye traditional Scottish tartans and textiles?
- Reviewed:
Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 05:41, 6 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: New enough, long enough, sourced and neutral. Everything looks to be plagiarism free. The hook is cited and interesting! The QPQ is not applicable as the nominator has under 5 nominations. Cheers and have a wonderful day! Ornithoptera (talk) 01:41, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
LACE (satellite)
- ... that the Low-power Atmospheric Compensation Experiment (LACE) (pictured) was the first Department of Defense satellite launched on a commercial launch vehicle?
- ALT1: ... that the 150 ft (46m) long retractable booms on the LACE satellite (pictured) were the longest ever put in space at the time of launch?
- Source: Amato, Ivan. "13". Taking Technology Higher The Naval Center for Space Technology and the Making of the Space Age (p. 252)
https://www.nrl.navy.mil/Portals/38/PDF%20Files/Taking_Technology_Higher_Amato.pdf "In the initial days and weeks after the LACE launch, he and colleagues spent many hours at the Blossom Point ground station in southern Maryland checking the spacecraft’s systems, which included, among other superlatives, the longest retractable
booms that had ever flown in space"- ALT2: ... that the Ultraviolet Plume Instrument onboard the LACE satellite (pictured) tracked rocket plumes from space for the United States's Star Wars program?
- Source: Naval Research Laboratory (October 1, 1991). "LACE" (PDF). Defense Technical Information Center. Washington DC: Naval Research Laboratory. Retrieved April 4, 2024.
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA339075.pdf (p. 2): "SDIO [Strategic Defense Initiative Organization] began discussing the addition of an instrument to take video images of rocket plumes by their UV emission."
Images on pp. 20-22, some color versions at https://web.archive.org/web/20070916140820/http://code8200.nrl.navy.mil/uvpi.html, or on Commons- Reviewed:
- Comment: Hook: technically LACE was launched alongside another "Star Wars" satellite as a dual payload on the same rocket, however, LACE was deployed first so it still was the "first" satellite launched/deployed in the mission
AltHook: I would love to say that these were the longest booms *ever* deployed in space, but I haven't found any up-to-date sources or papers stating that.
AltHook2: "Star Wars" is the popular nickname for the Strategic Defense Initiative program
SpacePod9 (talk) 08:47, 6 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: main, ALT1 and ALT2 all verified Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:00, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 5[edit]
Lookwide Camp
- ... that when the Lookwide Camp was announced, the location had not yet been selected?
- Source: Gaskell, Erin; AI-assisted reporter (2023-10-18). "Scouts commemorate historical 'Lookwide Camp' with annual night hike". Hexham Courant.
--evrik (talk) 05:37, 5 June 2024 (UTC).
This is an interesting fact about scouting. The article is sourced reliably and covers the Did You Know criteria. Moondragon21 (talk) 02:15, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
A full review is needed as the above review did not check every criterion fully. Also pinging Chipmunkdavis given that they raised an objection to the current hook at WT:DYK. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:16, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Gedling Town F.C.
- ... that Gedling Town F.C., then competing at the ninth tier of the English football pyramid, was once served by former England international Chris Waddle?
- Source: "Life After the Lane". Tottenham Hotspur F.C. 5 November 2003. Archived from the original on 14 August 2020. Retrieved 9 January 2024.
Curlymanjaro (talk) 12:34, 9 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article nominated for DYK within 7 days of reaching Good Article status. The article is long enough, has over 1,500 words of prose, and is properly cited. Earwig picked up a copyright violation 0%, maing it unlikely. QPQ is done. AGF on locked sources. The article in general has a lot of red links and I think that, if there are no plans on creating those articles, they should be removed. Hook is cited, but it doesn't seem particularly interesting to people outside of fans of football, so another one is recommended. lullabying (talk) 02:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Gedling Town F.C.'s nickname "The Ferrymen" was inspired by the name of a pub located near the team's stadium?
- @Lullabying and Curlymanjaro: How does this sound? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Lullabying and Narutolovehinata5: Hi both. I based the original hook on a previous DYK of mine. I think it's also fair to say it's difficult to find an interesting fact about a grassroots football team that isn't also about football. However, if we prefer Naruto's suggestion, how about: ... that Gedling Town F.C.'s nickname "The Ferrymen" was inspired by the name of a pub located next to the team's stadium? Curlymanjaro (talk) 22:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
I would prefer ALT1 or ALT1b. Good to go. lullabying (talk) 20:46, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Lullabying and Narutolovehinata5: Hi both. I based the original hook on a previous DYK of mine. I think it's also fair to say it's difficult to find an interesting fact about a grassroots football team that isn't also about football. However, if we prefer Naruto's suggestion, how about: ... that Gedling Town F.C.'s nickname "The Ferrymen" was inspired by the name of a pub located next to the team's stadium? Curlymanjaro (talk) 22:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Houdini (Eminem song)
... that Houdini makes use of abracadabra? Source: https://www.nme.com/news/music/steve-miller-reacts-to-eminem-interpolating-abracadabra-in-new-song-houdini-3761618- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bar Kokhba refuge caves
- Comment: Possibly a bit early, but this would make a good April Fools' hook. Lk95 started this off and I just added a bunch to it, a reviewer can adjudicate on whether anyone else deserves credits.
Launchballer 09:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC).
Sampling/interpolating other people's tracks is a common practice, so I don't see anything unique/interesting about Eminem doing so here, especially when it isn't the first time he's done so in his career. Try coming up with something else. Page length and QPQ are all set, though. I also don't see any neutrality or copyright issues. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 23:06, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- That hook was intended as an April Fools' joke, I was trying to suggest that Harry Houdini makes use of abracadabra - hooks on that day have a little more license to violate WP:EGG. ALT1: ... that Eminem promoted "Houdini" with a video in which David Blaine ate a glass of wine?--Launchballer 08:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- It wasn't a funny joke, and while ALT1 is much more intriguing, that isn't supported by the given link. You'll just need to add a ref backing that up before we can move forward with this. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 12:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- I just watched the video, and what actually happened was a little less dramatic: ref #4, which is what I'm using, says "downing a glass of wine and eating the glass". I've amended the article to that effect.--Launchballer 12:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
That aligns quite well with the link used, so I'll now give my approval for ALT1. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 03:35, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- I just watched the video, and what actually happened was a little less dramatic: ref #4, which is what I'm using, says "downing a glass of wine and eating the glass". I've amended the article to that effect.--Launchballer 12:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- It wasn't a funny joke, and while ALT1 is much more intriguing, that isn't supported by the given link. You'll just need to add a ref backing that up before we can move forward with this. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 12:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- That hook was intended as an April Fools' joke, I was trying to suggest that Harry Houdini makes use of abracadabra - hooks on that day have a little more license to violate WP:EGG. ALT1: ... that Eminem promoted "Houdini" with a video in which David Blaine ate a glass of wine?--Launchballer 08:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Gladys Stone Wright
- ... that Gladys Stone Wright, one of the first woman band directors in the United States, won an award for promoting bands as a "musical art form"?
- Source: "Conductor at Harrison". Journal and Courier. September 7, 1971. Retrieved June 5, 2024.
SL93 (talk) 20:54, 5 June 2024 (UTC).
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I think the hook could do with a few alts, as having read the article, there are some other details that stand out to me as more interesting than the award she won. Feel free to ping me once some ALT hooks are written. Grnrchst (talk) 09:29, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Grnrchst ALT1 ... that Gladys Stone Wright, one of the first woman band directors in the United States, was the first one in Oregon?
- ALT2 ... that when Gladys Stone Wright was the first woman band director at an educators' conference, male directors applauded her band's performance? SL93 (talk) 12:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Bad Dürrenberg burial
- ... that the Bad Dürrenberg shaman may have been able to block blood vessels to her brain by holding her head at certain angles?
- Source: Orschiedt et al. (2023) "The Shaman and the Infant: The Mesolithic Double Burial from Bad Dürrenberg, Germany" p.128 "This vertebra also shows an anomaly, which is limited to the vertebral process in the form of a protruding bone clasp. This makes a blockage of one of the blood vessels leading to the brain plausible. This can be caused intentionally by adopting a certain head posture."
- ALT1: ... that the Bad Dürrenberg shaman may have been able to induce ataxia or nystagmus by holding her head at certain angles? Source: Porr & Alt (2006) "The burial of Bad Dürrenberg, Central Germany: osteopathology and osteoarchaeology of a Late Mesolithic shaman's grave" p.398 "Tyrrell & Benedix (2004: 58) mention ‘ataxia of the limbs’ as ‘the most common modern clinical presentation ofcraniovertebral anomalies’...The latter might have affected all forms of perception, resulting in nystagmus (involuntary rapid, jerky eye movement) or diplopy (seeing double)." Orschiedt et al. (2023) "The Shaman and the Infant: The Mesolithic Double Burial from Bad Dürrenberg, Germany" p.128 "This can be caused intentionally by adopting a certain head posture...However, it is conceivable that a nystagmus, i. e., an involuntary movement of the eyeballs, could be caused by the blockage of a blood vessel."
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Merytat3n (talk) 23:58, 5 June 2024 (UTC).
Article is long enough and recently given GA status. It is presentable, well-sourced, and neutral. Earwig looks fine. The hooks are both cited and interesting. QPQ is not required. gobonobo + c 18:11, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Esther Tailfeathers
... that the "mythical love story" of Sami politician Bjarne Store-Jakobsen and Blackfoot physician Esther Tailfeathers is the subject of the 2014 film Bihttoš?Source: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/newfire/what-does-it-mean-to-come-of-age-1.3172991/filming-your-family-s-past-1.3173202 "My parents have this sort of mythical love story," is how she describes it.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/George Webster (presenter)
- Comment: Would like to use this as a second target for the Bjarne Store-Jakobsen hook in Template:Did you know/Preparation area 1, the nom for that hook is on board, will QPQ asap
Valereee (talk) 19:52, 5 June 2024 (UTC).
@Ornithoptera: Valereee (talk) 19:53, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: New enough, long enough, sourced and plagiarism free according to Earwig. The hook has been previously approved and everything seems to check out with me. If there are no issues everything should be fine with me. Great job Valereee, you've done an amazing job in taking initiative creating this article. Ornithoptera (talk) 21:04, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Ornithoptera and Valereee: I find it concerning that both the source given for the hook and the source in the article for the marriage don't actually name the father/husband. I see it in [10], which is used in the articles, so that source should be replicated. Noting also that the relevant Bjarne Store-Jakobsen sentence has not been adapted to note the film has two stars. CMD (talk) 00:49, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
per DYK Talk Valereee (talk) 11:11, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, I'll complete the review since I've somewhat started, pretty much confirming the work of Ornithoptera, and I echo the appreciation of the quick work here. Since it's in the hook, also a quick note of appreciation to Ornithoptera for the detailed article on what seems quite an impactful person.This article is new and long enough. It is adequately sourced. Running a few spotchecks I found no plagiarism (unless "a member of the Kainai First Nation" is not a common phrasing, which I feel it is but this is not an area I am highly versed in). I mentioned one sourcing quibble above, and noticed but did not mention the far too short lead, but Launchballer handled both of these. On the hook itself, I do not have access to two of the sources used across both articles, but it is backed up by the source I mentioned above which is already in both articles. Before approval, I note the Bjarne Store-Jakobsen article and the Esther Tailfeathers article frame the hook sentence a bit differently, either they are joint focuses or he is the main focus. The wikilinks to the Esther Tailfeathers article should also be adjusted on the Bjarne Store-Jakobsen article, as they don't seem to reflect the page creation. I would also like to know which source mentions the divorce, as I didn't find that in my spotchecks. Best, CMD (talk) 11:53, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, Chipmunkdavis, thanks for the review! I've asked Ornithoptera to take a look at those three sections, as they have seen the film while I don't have access to it. From the reviews it looks like we could possibly tweak to
ALT0a: ... that the "mythical love story" of Sami politician Bjarne Store-Jakobsen and Blackfoot physician Esther Tailfeathers is a focus of the 2014 film Bihttoš?
- As the film deals not only with his and his wife's relationship but also with that of him and his daughter, and the film investigates how his experiences in the residential schools informed those relationships. Valereee (talk) 13:30, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Works for me as an alt. It doesn't sound like the whole film is easily encapsulated in 200 characters, but the mythical love story aspect is hooky and prominent in the relevant sources. Waiting for Ornithoptera to confirm, I am copying over the relevant DYKmake coding here which should™️ ensure it gets copied over when this is promoted to my understanding. CMD (talk) 13:38, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Chipmunkdavis:! Thank you for taking the time to go through the article. There are a few questions that are raised in this discussion that I have missed that I will do my best to answer. Stofjell's article Elsewheres of Healing: Trans-Indigenous Spaces in Elle-Máijá Apiniskim Tailfeathers' Bihttoš is the primary source in terms of mentioning the divorce ("Tailfeathers uses Bihttoš totell the story of her parents’ marriage and divorce against the backdrop of agrowing global Indigenous rights movement") and Elle-Maija's mother ("The interspersed archival photographs are well-lit, but the liveaction sequences, featuring Elle-Máijá, her Kainai mother Esther Tailfeathers") and father ("Among other things, it is also very much a film honoring her father (“Áhčči”), Bjarne Store-Jakobsen"). If I have missed any other questions that require addressing please let me know and I'll do my best to adjust accordingly! Ornithoptera (talk) 16:52, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Works for me as an alt. It doesn't sound like the whole film is easily encapsulated in 200 characters, but the mythical love story aspect is hooky and prominent in the relevant sources. Waiting for Ornithoptera to confirm, I am copying over the relevant DYKmake coding here which should™️ ensure it gets copied over when this is promoted to my understanding. CMD (talk) 13:38, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- As the film deals not only with his and his wife's relationship but also with that of him and his daughter, and the film investigates how his experiences in the residential schools informed those relationships. Valereee (talk) 13:30, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 6[edit]
María Pacheco
- ... that after the death of her husband, María Pacheco led the Revolt of the Comuneros in Toledo?
- Source: *Fink De Backer, Stephanie (2004). "Rebel with a Cause: The Marriage of María Pacheco and the Formation of Mendoza Identity". In Nader, Helen (ed.). Power and Gender in Renaissance Spain: Eight Women of the Mendoza Family, 1450-1650. University of Illinois Press. pp. 79–81. ISBN 0-252-02868-6.
- ALT1: ... that plants have had difficulty growing in the centre of Toledo since 1522, when Spanish royalists salted the earth where María Pacheco had led the Revolt of the Comuneros? Source: *Fink De Backer, Stephanie (2004). "Rebel with a Cause: The Marriage of María Pacheco and the Formation of Mendoza Identity". In Nader, Helen (ed.). Power and Gender in Renaissance Spain: Eight Women of the Mendoza Family, 1450-1650. University of Illinois Press. pp. 81–82. ISBN 0-252-02868-6.
- ALT2: ... that Spanish chroniclers thought María Pacheco, the leader of the Revolt of the Comuneros, was a witch? Source: Fleming, Gillian B. (2018). "Vengeance (1520-1522)". Juana I: Legitimacy and Conflict in Sixteenth-Century Castile. Palgrave Macmillan. p. 270. doi:10.1007/978-3-319-74347-9. ISBN 978-3-319-74346-2.
- ALT3: ... that after Moriscos attended the wedding of María Pacheco, her father claimed it as a sign of his success in promoting religious tolerance, in direct opposition to the Spanish Inquisition? Source: *Fink De Backer, Stephanie (2004). "Rebel with a Cause: The Marriage of María Pacheco and the Formation of Mendoza Identity". In Nader, Helen (ed.). Power and Gender in Renaissance Spain: Eight Women of the Mendoza Family, 1450-1650. University of Illinois Press. pp. 72–73, 77–78. ISBN 0-252-02868-6.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gladys Stone Wright
Grnrchst (talk) 09:40, 7 June 2024 (UTC).
- Comment – I will review this nomination. – Editør (talk) 09:39, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Review – The article is new enough (passed as GA on 6 June 2024), long enough (12000+ characters of prose), has no copyright issues, and is presentable (both per Talk:María Pacheco/GA1). The originally proposed hook is cited and interesting. Although the linked source is not available without an account, I was able to confirm the information by other sources [11] [12], so I don't see an issue here. I want to propose an alternative that focuses more on María Pacheco instead of her husband and avoids changing 'Toledo' into the modern 'Toledo, Spain', let me know if there are any issues with ALT4 before I pass it. – Editør (talk) 10:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT4 ... that María Pacheco led the Revolt of the Comuneros in the Kingdom of Toledo after the death of her husband?
- No issues with ALT4, although I personally think ALTs 1, 2 and 3 are more interesting. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. I also thought ALT2 was interesting, but I couldn't find an alternative source for this to confirm this information; do you have one? And I would propose to change it to remove the modern 'Spanish' and the article 'the' because there were more leaders into: – Editør (talk) 12:59, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT5: ... that 16th-century chroniclers thought María Pacheco, a leader of the Revolt of the Comuneros, was a witch?
- Good point about dropping the apocryphal use of "Spanish", I think ALT5 looks good as well. Here's the direct quote from Fleming 2018, p. 270:
--Grnrchst (talk) 13:19, 23 June 2024 (UTC)Her actions drew the ire of contemporary chroniclers, who depict her as a tyrannical virago. Having earlier commented that she dominated her marriage as the “husband of her husband,” Martire links her protagonism to madness, and even to demonic possession; Santa Cruz relates it to witchcraft. Like Juana’s moriscas in earlier days, Pacheco’s were looked upon askance. Fray Guevara describes Pacheco working with a “mad” slave or “great witch,” who stoked her ambitions.
pass ALT5. – Editør (talk) 13:21, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Good point about dropping the apocryphal use of "Spanish", I think ALT5 looks good as well. Here's the direct quote from Fleming 2018, p. 270:
- ALT5: ... that 16th-century chroniclers thought María Pacheco, a leader of the Revolt of the Comuneros, was a witch?
- Ok. I also thought ALT2 was interesting, but I couldn't find an alternative source for this to confirm this information; do you have one? And I would propose to change it to remove the modern 'Spanish' and the article 'the' because there were more leaders into: – Editør (talk) 12:59, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- No issues with ALT4, although I personally think ALTs 1, 2 and 3 are more interesting. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT4 ... that María Pacheco led the Revolt of the Comuneros in the Kingdom of Toledo after the death of her husband?
Articles created/expanded on June 7[edit]
Ernest J. King
- ... that Admiral Ernest J. King (pictured) was so tough it was said that he shaved with a blowtorch? Source: https://warroom.armywarcollege.edu/articles/shaving-with-a-blowtorch/
- ALT1 ... that Admiral Ernest J. King (pictured) was so tough a popular myth held that he shaved with a blowtorch? Source: https://warroom.armywarcollege.edu/articles/shaving-with-a-blowtorch/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/LACE (satellite)
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC).
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Perhaps the sentence should include the fact that this was a myth (really small degree of truth) instead of a said (some degree of truth)?He was a strict disciplinarian who popular myth held was so tough he “shaved with a blowtorch.”
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Overall: Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 01:31, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think anyone thought it was anything more than hyperbole. Hawkeye7}} (discuss) 07:39, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Hawkeye7: Thanks for the clarification and the ALT.
Approved ALT1. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 10:41, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Hawkeye7: Thanks for the clarification and the ALT.
This hasn't been moved to WP:DYKNA yet as Jeromi didn't use the official tick icon, so just putting this here for the benefit of the bot. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:11, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Max Weil
- ... that concert violinist and conductor Max Weil founded the Halifax Symphony Orchestra in 1897?
- Source: Kallmann, Helmut (June 17, 2007). "Max Weil". The Canadian Encyclopedia.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rosemary Miller
- Comment: Moved to main space on June 7, 2024.
4meter4 (talk) 15:31, 14 June 2024 (UTC).
- Not really a fan of the hook as unless one understands the significance of the Orchestra in question it's not exactly going to attract attention. Proposing an alternative:
- ALT1... that Max Weil, founder of the Halifax Symphony Orchestra, spent his later years in real estate?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:55, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- I shall review this. Storye book (talk) 09:09, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Thank you, 4meter4, for a very useful and comprehensive article. Although I like ALT1, I don't agree with the reason given for it: there will be a lot of people in Canada who would be offended by people of another nationality suggesting that their orchestra is insignificant, if they had seen that comment. That said, there is nothing wrong with ALT1, and it does the job required by DYK. So - good to go with ALT0 or ALT1, with preference for ALT1. Storye book (talk) 09:36, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
2018 Malang mayoral election
- ... that two of three candidates of the 2018 Malang, Indonesia mayoral election were arrested for bribery before the election? Source: [13]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Infested
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Juxlos (talk) 08:22, 7 June 2024 (UTC).
i'm using machine translation, but the source does not mention bribery, just that they were arrested for corruption. also, waiting on qpq. no issues with article, agf on non-english sources. ltbdl (talk) 02:30, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
1964 New York World's Fair pavilions
- ... that several 1964 New York World's Fair pavilions were later sent to ski lodges and universities? Source: Multiple in article, including Samuel, Lawrence R. (August 30, 2007). The End of the Innocence: The 1964–1965 New York World's Fair (1st ed.). Syracuse University Press. pp. 85-86; Cohn, Al (June 24, 1967). "What Ever Happened to the World's Fair". Newsday. p. 14W.
- ALT1: ... that one New York man built a house out of several 1964 New York World's Fair pavilions? Source: Reif, Rita (April 16, 1968). "How to Build a House: Tear Down World's Fair and the Met". The New York Times.
- ALT2: ... that some nonexistent 1964 New York World's Fair pavilions were displayed on official maps of the fair? Source: "Visitors at the Fair Seek Sights Not to Be Seen". The New York Times. August 11, 1964
- ALT3: ... that one 1964 New York World's Fair pavilion was not completed until the fair's 1964 season was over? Source: Long, Tania (October 17, 1964). "Belgian Village Finished at Last: Medieval 'city' Just in Time for World's Fair Closing". The New York Times. p. 29.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/SkyBridge Alternatives Conference
- Comment: More hooks later. I copied a few paragraphs from the 1964 New York World's Fair article, but that info was added by me when I completely rewrote that article on June 4, so I think it still meets the newness criterion.
Epicgenius (talk) 19:23, 7 June 2024 (UTC).
I like ALT1 the best, and the sourcing checks out on it. Article is eligible from newness and is in pretty good shape all around. No evidence of copyvio. QPQ checks out. I think everything here is in good working order! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:08, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Wu shu (history)
- ... that the compilation of the Wu shu was hampered by the execution of two of of the compilation committee's members?
- Source: in the article
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Kzyx (talk) 00:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC).
No QPQ needed. Hook is interested, although you really should list the source again here; it's de Crespigny, Rafe (2018). Generals of the South: The Foundation and Early History of the Three Kingdoms State of Wu. This checks out, however. Article seems in decent shape, although might need a round of copyediting; it's presentable, but some of the sentences are phrased a little clunkily. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 01:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 8[edit]
Barbara's Rhubarb Bar
- ... that barbarians would have bought cake, not pie, at Barbara's Rhubarb Bar?
- Source: "One thing we need to clear up: Contrary to the English translation on many videos of the song, including Wartke and Fischer’s official YouTube video, rhabarberkuchen is — repeat with me! — not rhubarb pie... Of all the elements of a proper rhabarberkuchen, the streusel topping seems most non-negotiable. Hansche remembers her mom making “rhabarber-streusel-kuchen” — a crumb cake with a layer of poached rhubarb and a streusel made from flour, butter, and sugar — as part of a “kaffe und kuchen” (coffee and cake) afternoon tradition." --Morgan, Audrey (May 8, 2024). "Why Is a Rap Song About Rhubarb Cake Blowing Up on TikTok?". Food & Wine. Same source, and multiple others cited on the page, document the "barbarians" in the song lyrics.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Victor Jacob Koningsberger.
- Comment: I also want to thank Viriditas and jc37, for giving me very valuable feedback about the page on my talk page. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:53, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Tryptofish (talk) 22:53, 13 June 2024 (UTC).
Article is new enough and long enough. It is presentable, well-sourced, neutral, and BLP-compliant. Earwig checks out. The hook is cited and interesting. Images used in the article have licenses. QPQ has been done. This is a fun article, excellent material for DYK. Well done. gobonobo + c 16:15, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks so much! --Tryptofish (talk) 19:12, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Cinema of Guinea-Bissau
- ... that to encourage the development of Bissau-Guinean cinema, one foreign filmmaker provided the country's film institute with cameras, lights, and a Steinbeck guitar?
- Source: Laranjeiro, Catarina (2021), Blum, Françoise; Kiriakou, Héloïse; Mourre, Martin; Basto, Maria-Benedita (eds.), "The Bissau-Guinean Cinema: A Nation", Socialismes en Afrique (in French), Éditions de la Maison des sciences de l’homme, pp. 519–535, doi:10.4000/books.editionsmsh.51480., ISBN 978-2-7351-2698-9, retrieved 2024-06-08
- ALT1: ... that Amílcar Cabral sent four Bissau-Guineans to learn film technique in Cuba, hoping to stimulate filmmaking in the country? Source: Arenas, Fernando (2017). "The Filmography of Guinea-Bissau's Sana Na N'Hada: From the Return of Amílcar Cabral to the Threat of Global Drug Trafficking". Portuguese Literary and Cultural Studies: 69. ISSN 2573-1432.
- ALT2: ... that much of the early cinema of Guinea-Bissau was lost after the country's 1980 coup? Source: Cavoulacos, Sophie (June 8, 2024). "MoMA Presents: Filipa César's Spell Reel". MOMA. Retrieved June 8, 2024.
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Lbal (talk) 22:26, 8 June 2024 (UTC).
Well done! Nominator is exempt from QPQ. The article was created within a week at the time of nomination and exceeds the minimum length for DYK. The article is generally within policy; I did make a copyedit to fix some typos and linkage issues. A basic copyvio check found no concerns. Sourcing is sufficient and high-quality. All of the hooks are cited and mentioned within the article, and I believe they pass our standards for interesting hooks. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:02, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Zhang Zhenglang
- ... that despite specializing in literature and serving as a senior editor of the Zhonghua Book Company, historian Zhang Zhenglang never published a single book of his own?
- Source: Lu, Zongli (2007). "A Short Biography of Professor Zhang Zhenglang". Chinese Literature: Essays, Articles, Reviews (CLEAR). 29. https://www.jstor.org/stable/25478409
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 01:13, 10 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Good to go! But, out of curiosity, where was "My Ten Years at the Institute of History and Philology" published in 1998? In a journal, or somewhere else? Thanks, A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:42, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- @A Thousand Doors: in 新學術之路: 中央研究院歷史語言研究所七十周年紀念文集, Volume 1 (1998) [A New Academic Road: Collected Works Commemorating the 70th Anniversary of the Institute of History and Philology, Academia Sinica, Volume 1]. But the version I use was from the Peking University website - I'm kind of unsure how to cite it in this case. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 21:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
Great Alaskan Lumberjack Show
- ... that in the Great Alaskan Lumberjack Show, the performers scale a tree that is 50 feet (15 m) tall and then free fall?
- Source: Ballas, Teeka; Bodry, Catherine; Bowman, Jessica; Coffman, Linda; Heller, Carolyn; Kernaghan, Sue; McBeath, Chris; Moure, Celeste; Readicker-Henderson, Edward; Reale, Tom; Schoenbohm, Laurel; Wyatt, Sarah (2009). Kealy, Kelly (ed.). Fodor's Alaska Ports of Call 2009. New York: Fodor's. p. 167. ISBN 978-1-4000-0707-3. ISSN 1520-0205. Retrieved 2024-06-08 – via Google Books.
The book notes: "We don't recommend it if you're looking for authenticity, but the Great Alaskan Lumberjack Show is a 60-minute lumberjack contest providing a Disneyesque taste of old-time woodsman skills, including ax throwing, buck-sawing, springboard chopping, log-rolling duels, and a 50-foot tree climb that ends in a free fall."
Cunard (talk) 10:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Everything looks good to me. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Isle of Dogs Pumping Station
- ... that the Isle of Dogs Pumping Station (pictured) was designed in defiance of Margaret Thatcher? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/jun/22/john-outram-temple-of-storms-listed-pumping-station
- ALT1: ... that the Isle of Dogs Pumping Station (pictured) was nicknamed the Temple of Storms? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/jun/22/john-outram-temple-of-storms-listed-pumping-station
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Pahunkat (talk) 22:57, 8 June 2024 (UTC).
Article was moved to mainspace today, so is new enough. At over 3000 characters, it is long enough. The article reads neutrally and properly uses in-line citations. The copyvio detector finds no issues. Both hooks are interesting and are cited in-line. No QPQ is required (though will be on your next one, have fun with that!). Everything looks good to go! SilverserenC 23:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 9[edit]
Kirkby Ski Slope
- ... that Kirkby Ski Slope, built in the 1970s in Liverpool, was never used?
- Source: "Building work began on the development, located between Kirkby Stadium and the M57, in November 1973.
Predicted to open to the public in 1974, the slope encountered numerous issues, such as vandalism and problems with the surface and, in 1975, the project was abandoned."
Taken from: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/merseysides-back-front-ski-slope-17597070- ALT1: ...schoolchildren in the town of Kirkby, Liverpool, were paid 25 pence an hour to help build Kirkby Ski Slope, even though the slope never opened?
- Source: Taken from: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/merseysides-back-front-ski-slope-17597070
- Reviewed:
LicenceToCrenellate (talk) 22:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Happy to confirm this interesting and well researched article --AntientNestor (talk) 07:18, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the time to review it. I've added a citation that backs up the claims about the lack of railings and the surface.LicenceToCrenellate (talk) 22:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Way Less Sad
- ... that when AJR was asked if they could produce material for Cardi B, they offered her a demo of "Way Less Sad"?
ALT1: ... that AJR took nine years to write "Way Less Sad"? Source: https://www.binnews.com/alternate/amp/2021-05-28-ajr-talks-childhood-way-less-sad-cardi-b-and-more/- ALT2: ... that AJR's "Way Less Sad" samples the final trumpet riff of Simon & Garfunkel's "My Little Town" as its primary hook? Source: https://www.vulture.com/2021/03/ajr-interview-bang-ok-orchestra-way-less-sad.html
- Reviewed:
Koopastar (talk) 02:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC).
Review
ongoing: Promoted to GA on 9th and nominated here for DYK on 10th June. Article is long enough. 2 free images in article from Commons and 2 medias uploaded on enwiki with rationale. No apparent copyvios other than quotes. All the 3 hooks are verifiable as per the sources; but none of them appear in the article as have been presented here in the hook. "Horn line" should be linked or explained. I suggest rephrasing the article words to include these lines. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:44, 16 June 2024 (UTC)- @Dharmadhyaksha I have fixed the issue for two of the hooks by using more words directly from the article (I opted not to do ALT1 as in retrospect it seems less interesting than the other two). Koopastar (talk) 19:06, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Both original and ALT2 hooks are ok. However i prefer ALT2 more as it is unique for this particular article. All good to go now! §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Dharmadhyaksha I have fixed the issue for two of the hooks by using more words directly from the article (I opted not to do ALT1 as in retrospect it seems less interesting than the other two). Koopastar (talk) 19:06, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver season 4
![Title card of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Last_Week_Tonight.svg/160px-Last_Week_Tonight.svg.png)
- ... that late-night satirical news show Last Week Tonight with John Oliver received a rare second Peabody Award for its fourth season?
- ALT1: ... that critics described the fourth season of late-night satirical news show Last Week Tonight with John Oliver as comic relief from the activities of the Trump administration? Source: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/last_week_tonight_with_john_oliver/s04/reviews (some text from the individual reviews within)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Justin J. Pearson
MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 19:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC).
Article is long and new enough as well as well written and copyvio-free. However, I would prefer that you cite another reliable, independent source for the critical reception instead of using Rotten Tomatoes, which, while reliable on its own, is not an arbiter of critical consensus; you can still report on the RT scores, though. Hooks are cited both in this page and article, but I prefer ALT1 (that is, with another independent source as I've said) for obvious reasons but with some minor alterations:
- ALT1a: ... that some critics described the fourth season of the late-night satirical news show Last Week Tonight with John Oliver as comic relief from the activities of the Trump administration? Source: The AV club, Bustle
ALT0 seems dull and reliant on readers' knowledge of award-giving bodies. Title card image, which is freely-licensed, seems more decorative than encyclopedic within the context of this DYK, so I seriously doubt it's gonna make it to the main page. Since QPQ has been given, this should be good to go once the issues are addressed. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 07:09, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- Nineteen Ninety-Four guy, thanks for the review: better sources for ALT1 are The AV club and Bustle. ALT1a looks good! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:28, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- Just clump those sources in the article while also rewriting the sentence into, Some critics described the show as necessary comic relief from the activities of the Trump administration., and then remove The fourth season was generally well received from Critical reception and leave the Rotten Tomatoes bit as a standalone sentence. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 12:22, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Nineteen Ninety-Four guy: done, thank you! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 12:24, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Approving ALT1a. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 12:30, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Nineteen Ninety-Four guy: done, thank you! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 12:24, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Sydnie Christmas
- ... that the winner of the seventeenth series of Britain's Got Talent is the first credited woman to win the show without a dog? Source: https://www.whattowatch.com/news/britains-got-talent-winners-629519
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Peewee Jarrett
- Comment: Drive-by nomination, as it's been around 6.875 days since this was converted from a redirect and I want to get this in under the wire. I have a small amount of work to do, starting with the excision of those ugly WP:CLUMPs. Note that I've included 'credited' because, as can quite clearly be seen in the image in the cited source, series 4 winners Spelbound also contained women. Also noting that the majority of this article was created by an IP.
Launchballer 21:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC).
- Review: Newly expanded article from a redirect meeting the required length size of prose. BLP is notable to exist as a standalone article now passing WP:ARTIST. No apparent copyvios. QPQ done. Rest article seems fine. Problem comes with only the fact that this is a synthesis and hence not perfectly verifiable. Do we have any another source mentioning her to be the first woman winner without a dog? Or else, do we have anything else from the article to a new hook? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:52, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Emily Spreeman
- ... that Emily Spreeman, the all-time top scorer for the United States deaf women's national team, played youth soccer with Alex Morgan?
- Source: LAT
- ALT1: ... that Emily Spreeman, the all-time top scorer for the United States women's national deaf soccer team, debuted for the team at the age of 15? Source: U.S. Soccer
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Stacy Hollowell
Hameltion (talk | contribs) 02:05, 9 June 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on June 10[edit]
Infested
- ... that with the horror film Infested, French filmmaker Sébastien Vaniček wanted to show how not frightening but "complex and beautiful" spiders are?
- ALT1: ... that French filmmaker Sébastien Vaniček conceived the horror film Infested as a social commentary on xenophobia, finding parallels between spiders and banlieue residents? Source: "We don't like that (spiders) have eight legs, and they can move fast, and they can go from this way to this way, they can jump. And that's xenophobia. ... You have this interesting parallel with spiders, because spiders are judged for their appearances, and then people from the suburbs are judged for where they come from."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/In a World...(2nd nomination)
Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 22:48, 13 June 2024 (UTC).
Article new and long enough at the time of nomination. Length and referencing adequate ("Plot" isn't but that's MOS). No copyvio per Earwig aside from the block of interview quote. Hook interesting, cited inline. Good to go. Juxlos (talk) 16:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Dreamtime (climb)
![The line of the Dreamtime 8C (V15) graded bouldering route is marked in green](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Dreamtime_Boulder_in_Cresciano_-_line.jpg/168px-Dreamtime_Boulder_in_Cresciano_-_line.jpg)
- ... that Dreamtime (pictured) is considered one of the world's most famous bouldering routes?
- Reviewed:
Aszx5000 (talk) 15:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC).
article is long enough, recently promoted to GA and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ not needed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Aszx5000 and Gonzo fan2007: Comment: Seems like a bold claim. I wonder if we should attribute this claim or bolster it with more robust sources. Or explore a more verifiable hook. Bruxton (talk) 15:14, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- "Considered" and "one of" make this less bold. I think the article supports both assertions, but if the nominator wants to add an additional source to back it up, it wouldn't hurt. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks all, and here are some additional refs (i.e. Dreamtime and Midnight Lightning (climb)'s fame is easily verifiable in climbing): probably the most famous boulder in the world, https://www.planetmountain.com/en/news/climbing/jernej-kruder-climbs-childhood-dream-dreamtime-cresciano.html, They are two of the most famous problems in the world of bouldering, with Dreamtime—arguably the first internationally famous boulder problem since Midnight Lightning. Just google +"dreamtime" +"boulder" +"famous", and you will get every major climbing magazine (per WP:NCLIMB). Hope that works. Aszx5000 (talk) 17:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- "Considered" and "one of" make this less bold. I think the article supports both assertions, but if the nominator wants to add an additional source to back it up, it wouldn't hurt. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Aszx5000 and Gonzo fan2007: Comment: Seems like a bold claim. I wonder if we should attribute this claim or bolster it with more robust sources. Or explore a more verifiable hook. Bruxton (talk) 15:14, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 11[edit]
Na O-mi
- ... that South Korean actress Na O-mi's stage name was inspired by the song "I Dream of Naomi" by Israeli singing duo Hedva and David?
- ALT1: ... that South Korean actress Na O-mi was cast by Shin Seong-il after placing second at a pageant that he judged? Source: http://www.cine21.com/news/view/?mag_id=22004
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The citation for the first hook doesn't actually mention the name "Hedva and David", but it does say "the name Naomi comes from the hit song 'Naomi in a Dream,' sung by an Israeli mixed duet at the time." (Of course, I'm translating this from Korean, so the title won't match up 100%, but 꿈속의 나오미 is what the song was titled in Korea) Also I could cut the "South" in South Korean if it's obvious enough she's not from the North.
Wuju Daisuki (talk) 16:54, 11 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Korean-language sources were checked for close paraphrasing; no issues arose. I strongly prefer the original hook over ALT1. I do not think that the lack of an explicit mention of the Israeli duo's name in the original Korean source is a significant problem. If the promoter does deem it so, however, the hook could be reworded like so:
- "... that South Korean actress Na O-mi's stage name was inspired by the song 'I Dream of Naomi'?"
I also added "the song" and "singing duo" to the original hook for clarity's sake. Yue🌙 21:50, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think the modified version you listed here (not the one you modified for clarity on the top, I think that one is too wordy) is nice to me. I also re-added the filmography. Wuju Daisuki (talk) 17:00, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
1940 NFL All-Star Game (January)
- ... that all of the players on the Green Bay Packers were selected for the 1940 NFL All-Star Game?
- Source: PFR.com
- Reviewed: Traverse (climbing)
« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:33, 11 June 2024 (UTC).
As a Lions fan, am I allowed to just reject this outright? (kidding) Article is new enough, long enough, and well sourced. Earwig appears to be down, but a spot check of sources showed no issues. QPQ done. Hook is interesting, but I worry that in going for "hookiness" it might go too far towards being misleading. The Packers were one of the teams in the game, but is that the same as the players being "selected" for the game, as those for the actual all-star team were? What about wording it something closer to
- ALT1: ... that the entire Green Bay Packers team was chosen to play in the 1940 NFL All-Star Game?
- @Gonzo fan2007: What do you think of this? It's still "hooky" while hewing a little closer to fact, in my opinion. But despite my joke earlier, I'm not deliberately trying to be difficult and am open to other suggestions. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 23:27, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- DrOrinScrivello, that actually was going to be my original hook, but then I questioned whether "played" was factually correct. There aren't a lot of great sources for an 84 year old game, and I can't be certain that every player actually "played" (there were at least 2 injuries for Packers players noted before the game). "Select" is kind of the word used by the NFL for being chosen to the Pro Bowl and is consistent with List of Green Bay Packers Pro Bowl selections. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:33, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- All that to say I don't really mind either ALT if you think ALT1 is fine. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:36, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
I agree that "select" is what you usually expect to see in most Pro Bowl situations, but it seems to me that on this particular occasion the players themselves weren't "selected" per se. Maybe a way to get around the "play" issue would be to say,
- ALT1b: ... that the entire Green Bay Packers team was chosen to compete in the 1940 NFL All-Star Game?
- I think this is mostly hair splitting, though, and would not argue if the promoter choses any of the three options. Assuming my suggestions didn't alter the original enough for this to be considered approving my own hook (in which case I'm fine with another reviewer being requested), I think this is good to go. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 23:53, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Unpromoted per WT:DYK.— Preceding unsigned comment added by RoySmith (talk • contribs) 14:06, June 18, 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the Green Bay Packers once defeated a team of all-stars chosen from the rest of the league? DrOrinScrivello, are you satisfied with this hook? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 13:56, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
I am. I know it's not quite what you wanted, but I think this is still an interesting hook and at least your good work on the article will still get featured. ALT2 is good to go. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 14:20, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 12[edit]
Music Sounds Better with You
- ... that the vocalist on the dance song "Music Sounds Better with You" was in a punk band that disapproved of his collaboration with electronic musicians?
- ALT1: ... that Thomas Bangalter declined an offer of over $3 million from Virgin Records to make a Stardust album after the success of their song "Music Sounds Better with You"?
lunaeclipse (talk) 21:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Since I am a relatively new user (est Dec2023), I am not sure if ALT0 violates NPOV. But regardless, I prefer ALT1 JuniperChill (talk) 22:08, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Tobie Goedewaagen
- ... that Tobie Goedewaagen (pictured), a minister under the Nazi occupation government, fled the Netherlands with his belongings in a bedspread?
- Source: "Dr. T. (Tobie) Goedewaagen" (in Dutch). Parlementair Documentatie Centrum. Archived from the original on 10 January 2023. Retrieved 11 June 2024.
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 668 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.— Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:19, 12 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: I am assuming in good faith that the Dutch refs adequately support the text and that there is no plagiarism. I've done a general search myself as to the subject of the bio in English sources. There were some deletions made to the article of the word Nazi here; restoring the word would help make this properly neutral in accuracy, and I would be happy then to pass this final item of the qpq. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:FD8F:5C17:CABB:9E61 (talk) 20:25, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
@DYK admins: I started working on this, but my comments so far are not showing up .. am I doing something wrong in format? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:FD8F:5C17:CABB:9E61 (talk) 20:29, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- gotta have the status field filled in :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi 2603. I've moved "Nazi" back in front of "German occupation". — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:16, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Looks good. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:900D:526B:7A29:78AD (talk) 02:06, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 13[edit]
Sebastiaan Matheus Sigismund de Ranitz (1901–1987)
- ... that the Dutch Nazi collaborator Sebastiaan de Ranitz was defended at the Special Court of Justice by his nephew?
- Source: "Tegen Jhr. de Ranitz Negen Jaar Geëist" [For Jhr. de Ranitz Nine Years Demanded]. Trouw (in Dutch). Amsterdam. 16 December 1948. p. 3.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:44, 13 June 2024 (UTC).
Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 07:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492 and Cunard: Question: how do we know he was defended by a nephew? The translated source says
The defender, Mr. H. de Ranitz, cousin of the suspect
Bruxton (talk) 18:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)- @Cunard and Bruxton: Looking into it, neef is one of those lovely words that mean two completely different things (nephew or cousin, even the Dutch Wikipedia page is basically a dab). Without more on his family, "relative" is the best we can do. How about ALT1 ... that the Nazi collaborator Sebastiaan de Ranitz abandoned his office following Mad Tuesday, leaving his department in turmoil?
- That's supported by both Wesselink, Claartje (2014). Kunstenaars van de Kultuurkamer: Geschiedenis en Herinnering [Artists of the Kultuurkamer: History and Memory]. Bert Baker. and the PDC. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:52, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492 and Cunard: Question: how do we know he was defended by a nephew? The translated source says
Beijing Watermelon
- ... that plans to shoot the Beijing-set portions of the 1989 Japanese film Beijing Watermelon were cancelled after the Tiananmen Square protests and massacre occurred mid-production?
- Source: 1
Morgan695 (talk) 18:23, 13 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Nominator still needs to complete QPQ, but otherwise it looks good. It might be good to add in the Production and release section that it had a theatrical re-release in 2024, distributed by Kani Releasing. AdJHu 胡 00:02, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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QPQ has been completed, so I'd say this is good to go. AdJHu 胡 17:53, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Pigeon statues in Wellington
- ... that after a pigeon sculpture in Wellington went missing, members of the public created a shrine for it?
- ALT: ... that after a pigeon sculpture in Wellington went missing, people of the city created a memorial for it?
- ALT2: ... that people in Wellington mourned for a missing pigeon sculpture in Reddit by creating a memorial for it?
―Panamitsu (talk) 08:36, 13 June 2024 (UTC).
- This is indeed a very interesting article and the hook is also interesting. The source is notable and I don't see any issue in the article. The main issue is the hook itself. The hook is telling us that people built a shrine after the statue was stolen. But what the source given for it says is slightly different. The news article says "On Reddit, Wellingtonians mourned Cub St’s missing bird by laying flowers and candles at its former perch". It is not even a shrine. The reporter didn’t call it a shrine, the reddit post calls it a shrine and we shouldn’t take the reddit as the reliable source. So @Panamitsu: you need to edit the hook a little bit. Or you can propose alternative hook. Or search for sources directly mentioned it as a shrine. Then ping me and I continue my review. Mehedi Abedin (talk) 13:20, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Mehedi Abedin: The source shows a Reddit post saying "Someone's set up a shrine for the missing pigeon". I've also looked up shrine in the Oxford dictionary, which says "a place associated with or containing memorabilia of a particular revered person or thing", so I personally think that it is fine to call it a shrine even if the source doesn't (directly) say it. What do you think? ―Panamitsu (talk) 01:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Panamitsu: Well I guess we don't have to be so perfect. Although I think that using the word "memorial" would be better. By the way, I am gonna pass this hook anyway. Mehedi Abedin (talk) 03:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Mehedi Abedin: The source shows a Reddit post saying "Someone's set up a shrine for the missing pigeon". I've also looked up shrine in the Oxford dictionary, which says "a place associated with or containing memorabilia of a particular revered person or thing", so I personally think that it is fine to call it a shrine even if the source doesn't (directly) say it. What do you think? ―Panamitsu (talk) 01:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: The hook is good to go. However if the promoter has any issue with the word "shrine" then they can replace it with "memorial". I am going to add ALT hooks here in case any other issue occurs. Mehedi Abedin (talk) 03:09, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Luna (Feid and ATL Jacob song)
- ... that the Colombian singer Feid collaborated for the second time with an American hip hop producer in "Luna", and it was called "an effort to take the genre to the global level"?
- Source: "Feid le regaló al público un nuevo EP por fin de año: «FERXXOCALIPSIS»". Billboard Argentina (in Spanish). 2023-12-01. Retrieved 2024-06-13.
Santi (talk) 04:48, 13 June 2024 (UTC).
Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 16:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Nom is three days after GA promotion, passed a GA review, all good. ミラP@Miraclepine 16:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine: Would it be appropiate if we change the ALT due to the performance at the 2024 Copa América? Santi (talk) 04:36, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Pollosito: Actually, you're supposed to add an ALT1 separate from the original ALT0. Once you do that, I'll decide whether to approve and which one is preferred. ミラP@Miraclepine 19:37, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine: That's what I meant, only for me adding another alt and having it approved is equivalent to changing it in some way. I'm sorry for making you think I was literally going to change what's above. Well, here it goes:
ALT1: ... that the Colombian singer Feid performed "Luna" as the only song at the 2024 Copa América opening ceremony, but there were several technical issues in the transmission? Santi (talk) 20:24, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Pollosito: I've checked the sourcing in the new additions, and they're in accordance with DYK guidelines. Hence, I
Approve ALT1, which I prefer more. ミラP@Miraclepine 20:56, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine: Then the hook is ready now. Thanks for picking this! Santi (talk) 21:20, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Pollosito: I've checked the sourcing in the new additions, and they're in accordance with DYK guidelines. Hence, I
- @Miraclepine: That's what I meant, only for me adding another alt and having it approved is equivalent to changing it in some way. I'm sorry for making you think I was literally going to change what's above. Well, here it goes:
18th Lok Sabha
- ... that post enforcement of Women's Reservation Bill in India in the next few years, 33% of women MPs will be required although new Lok Sabha has only 14%?
§§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 03:42, 13 June 2024 (UTC). General eligibility:
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Overall: Approved only for ALT hook proposed by me. Mehedi Abedin (talk) 11:43, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 14[edit]
Brunel University lecture centre
- ... that Brunel University's lecture centre (pictured) was planned to be part of one of the biggest engineering teaching complexes in Europe?
- ALT1: ... that Brunel University's lecture centre (pictured) has been described as "imposing" and "frightening", but also as "an expressive centrepiece" and "a brutalist classic"? Source: "imposing", "frightening" and "a brutalist classic", "an expressive centrepiece"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dagmar Skálová
- Comment: I personally prefer ALT1.
Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 22:19, 14 June 2024 (UTC).
- Review underway... Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 16:02, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Created (moved from draftspace) on 14th June.
- Long enough, and graded at B-class.
- Decent sources: NHLE listing particulars (extensive), a journal article with more than a passing mention, book about the university (I have checked this via WebArchive) and a couple of newspaper pieces. No issues around notability.
- QPQ review has been done and is awaiting action from the article's nominator. (Edit to say that this is one of the DYK nominations affected by the blocking of the article nominator Evrik as detailed here, which I hadn't realised until checking WT:DYK today. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 12:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC))
- Re. The lecture centre was finished in 1966 or 1967: surprising that Historic England has not been able to pin down the completion date, but I have checked the listing particulars and other sources and it is indeed the case.
- Image is suitably licensed, was taken by the article author, is used in the article and looks fine at thumbnail size.
- All statements are sourced. No issues with neutrality.
- No copyvio or close paraphrasing noted. There are a couple of phrases which cannot really be reworded without losing their meaning.
- Hooks: both are fully verified. ALT1 is better; I wonder if it might be worth including a reference to the building's use in A Clockwork Orange to grab attention. Something like: ...that Brunel University's "imposing" and "frightening" lecture centre (pictured) featured in A Clockwork Orange? (another editor would need to sign off that hook).
Happy to mark this as verified. Note to prep builders: see my comment above on a possible ALT2 hook which I have suggested. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 21:09, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 15[edit]
Gmac Cash
- ... that rapper Gmac Cash attempted to gift a pair of Cartier glasses to Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, but she declined?
- ALT1: ... that rapper Gmac Cash coined the nickname "Big Gretch" in a song for Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer? Source: ‘Big Gretch’ discusses nickname, potential run for White House. October 24, 2023, WNEM-TV.
- Reviewed:
reppoptalk 08:02, 18 June 2024 (UTC).
Checked the references used for the first hook. It looks good and it's a funny story. Ready to go unless someone wants to come over and overrule me. Ominae (talk) 13:13, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
Timeline of Partygate
- ... that after he attended a birthday party on 19 June 2020 (pictured), Boris Johnson became the first serving Prime Minister of the United Kingdom to be found to have broken the law?
- Source: "Mr Johnson is the first serving PM to be sanctioned for breaking the law." BBC News
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zhang Zhenglang
- Comment: The best time to run this would probably be 19 June, but I recognise that I may have missed the boat on that date.
A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC).
- Comment not review As this is an article featuring election candidates, it should not appear on the main page until after 4 July, see WP:DYKELECT. TSventon (talk) 21:19, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
New enough and long enough. QPQ present. This is a unique contribution to DYK as it is three paragraphs and a list; even though one paragraph does not end in an inline citation, I am treating it as a lead-section paragraph. All the list bullet points contain at least one inline citation. The hook fact checks out and is included. Image is OGL-licensed and acceptable for the Main Page. Good to go after 4 July per above. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:49, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the review, Sammi! If you've got concerns over the amount of prose in this article, I've expanded the lead with another paragraph. Let me know if you think this has improved things. Thanks, A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 15:32, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Gloria Dickie
- ... that environmental journalist Gloria Dickie did her thesis on how cities in Colorado changed garbage laws to prevent bear incursions?
- Source: "The Bear In Your Back Yard" - The New Yorker
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dick Walker (astronomer)
- Comment: The article was moved from draftspace to mainspace with this edit.
SilverserenC 20:18, 15 June 2024 (UTC).
Newly moved article long enough and on notable topic. Subject passes GNG. No apparant copyvios. QPQ done. Hook is interesting and ready to go. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 12:23, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 16[edit]
A Stroke of the Pen: The Lost Stories
- ... that early in his career Terry Pratchett had published short stories in newspapers, which remained unknown until they were posthumously discovered and republished in the 2023 book A Stroke of the Pen?
- Source: "A Stroke of the Pen: The Lost Stories – Like any collection of juvenilia, for committed fans only, but there's plenty here for them to enjoy". Kirkus Reviews. 2023. Archived from the original on 2023-10-12.
- ALT1: ... that Terry Pratchett's earliest Discworld stories were discovered by two fans and republished in 2023 in the posthumous book A Stroke of the Pen: The Lost Stories? Source: "A Stroke of the Pen: The Lost Stories". Publishers Weekly. 2023. Archived from the original on 2024-06-08.
- Reviewed:
Al83tito (talk) 04:34, 19 June 2024 (UTC).
Article - Created 16 June, nominated 19 June: 4688 words: sources reliable, including source of hook: article is presentable. Hook - meets criteria of verifiability, interest and format. Good to go.Smerus (talk) 13:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Growing Up (The Linda Lindas album)
- ... that on American band the Linda Lindas' first album, Growing Up, a cat named Lil' Dude is featured playing piano?
- Source: Vinyl liner notes, NME
- ALT1: ... that the members of American punk rock band the Linda Lindas were all under the age of eighteen when they released their first album, Growing Up? Source: Rolling Stone
- ALT2: ... that while most of the songs on American band the Linda Lindas' first album, Growing Up, were sung in English, one track was in Spanish? Source: MTV
- ALT3: ... that after a video of American band the Linda Lindas playing their song "Racist, Sexist Boy" in a library went viral, they went on to release their first album, Growing Up? Source: Variety
- Reviewed:
- Comment: These are not perfect: they can be reworded as needed for clarification and correctness, etc.
– The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) 06:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC).
The article got promoted to good article status the day before the nomination, the article is long enough, no copyright concerns and all sources stated are reliable, the article is presentable and has no issues, and the hook is interesting.
I am new to DYK reviewing, this is my first try on it, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. TheNuggeteer, (talk) 9:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC).- @TheNuggeteer: No worries! This is my first DYK nom, so we're in the same boat here. – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) 14:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Zhou Wennan
- ... that in order to re-marry, Zhou Wennan had to request Mao Zedong for permission?
- Source: 1942年,弟媳周文楠要求再婚,毛主席:我没意见,但是有一个条件
- ALT1: ... that for 38 years, Zhou Wennan never knew the fate of her son who served as a soldier in the Chinese communist-led Eighth Route Army? Source: 毛泽东侄子被谁秘密处决?30年后才真相大白
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Voyager 2
Toadboy123 (talk) 16:01, 16 June 2024 (UTC).
New, long, & neutral enuf; interesting. AGF on refs, which are all in Chinese, & so both hooks. Earwig finds nothing. GTG. Johnbod (talk) 13:37, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Banana (2024 video game)
- ... that a video game consisting solely of a clickable image of a banana became the second most played game on Steam?
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:11, 16 June 2024 (UTC).
@Generalissima: Article looks good, QPQ is done, etc. When I first saw the hook I wasn't sure if "second most played" referred to a concurrent count, or of a number of purchases in the past month or all time. I think it might be better to add something to the effect of "concurrent". You passed me in DYKs :(. ―Panamitsu (talk) 03:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, maybe "reached the second highest concurrent player count on Steam?" Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:20, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I do have some major doubts about this "game"'s notability. Mainly, I think it fails WP:SUSTAINED, as it appears to be a flash-in-the-pan phenomenon that quickly drops off the radar and there is nothing to really talk about with regards to its content. I am not sure if DYK articles are required to pass notability criteria (the guidelines simply say "reliably sourced") but it risks coming off as advertising if a non-notable gimmick reaches the main page. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:38, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm: I feel the article pretty plainly meets GNG. It's covered in-depth in a wide variety of reliable sources for a month now, including Forbes. Even "gimmicks" are notable if they get significant, reliable coverage. (And no, notability is not a DYK thing. If it gets AFD'ed thats another issue.) Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:49, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- The only sources in the article are from a 2-week timespan from the beginning of June to a few days ago. That, to me and likely most other editors is not a sustained span of time in which the "game" is discussed. That goes into the realm of Wikipedia as news website rather than as a lagging indicator of notability. "Brief bursts of news coverage" do not demonstrate notability. There's a possibility that several months from now, the "game" will still be major, but we are not a crystal ball. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:59, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm: But lots of games have articles relatively soon after release. How can we say *any* game will or won't have coverage? Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 06:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Usually games have some degree of pre-release announcements and whatnot even before it comes out, with release day only cementing its notability. I'd say literally any game article that is created shortly after a game is announced is frowned upon for being WP:TOOSOON. I'm not saying it should be deleted now, but it does risk being deleted at a later date if its popularity fails to last. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm: I feel the article pretty plainly meets GNG. It's covered in-depth in a wide variety of reliable sources for a month now, including Forbes. Even "gimmicks" are notable if they get significant, reliable coverage. (And no, notability is not a DYK thing. If it gets AFD'ed thats another issue.) Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:49, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Oen Boen Ing
- ... that Dr. Oen Boen Ing used his own money to pay for some patients' prescriptions?
- Source: Lie, Ravando (2017). "Dr Oen Boen Ing: Patriot Doctor, Social Activist, and Doctor of the Poor" (PDF). Wacana. 18 (2): 478. doi:10.17510/wacana.v18i2.592. – "Whenever Dr Oen knew a patient could not afford to pay for medicine, he would sign and stamp the prescription. [...] A prescription bearing Dr Oen’s signature meant that the doctor himself would pay for it out of his own pocket."
- ALT1: ... that Dr. Oen Boen Ing, who often worked for free, was so popular that the Indonesian government was petitioned to not evacuate him during a period of violence against Chinese Indonesians? Source: Lie, Ravando (2017). "Dr Oen Boen Ing: Patriot Doctor, Social Activist, and Doctor of the Poor" (PDF). Wacana. 18 (2): 467. doi:10.17510/wacana.v18i2.592. – "The report also said that Dr Oen was able to assist more than 200 patients a day and more than half of them did not have to pay a single penny. ... When a series of anti-Tionghoa upheaval erupted in Surakarta, Dr Oen was supposed to be evacuated to a safe place by the Republican government. However, after hearing such a plan, people in Surakarta submitted a petition rejecting the idea and hoping Dr Oen would remain in Surakarta to assist the poor."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Grace A. Johnson
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:04, 16 June 2024 (UTC).
- Excellent article. Neat guy.
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Overall: Earwig marked ~40% for the Wacana PDF, but a spot check indicates that it's probably due to the foreign language element and particular phrasing like "fun fairs"; I didn't see any serious issues. Promoter, feel free to double-check my work; this is my first QPQ review. ThaesOfereode (talk) 21:16, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I reviewed Earwig, and changed "decided to move" to "moved", but most of these are proper names or direct quotations. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:44, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 17[edit]
Joseph Tetley
- ... that Joseph Tetley, a member of the New Zealand Legislative Council, defrauded several investors to the 2017 value of NZ$7 million?
- Source: The Prow, a website run by several New Zealand libraries, says: "Adjusted to 2017 rates, Tetley ran off with under $7,000,000 NZD." And the same source mentions the appointment to the Legislative Council.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ōsakishimojima
- Comment: Right, so this has just been on the main page as a minor link and got attention by 12 editors during the 24 hours on DYK (which is quite a bit for a New Zealand topic). The major expansion during that period was by HotMess. I've done some more expansion since and it's gone from 753 bytes of readable prose (prior to 17 June when expansion started) to 4753 bytes; more than the required 5x expansion.
And whilst we do have a mugshot for the subject, it's of poor quality and thus not worth including in this nomination.
Schwede66 06:39, 22 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Looks good to go. Aszx5000 (talk) 14:29, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- 👀👀👀 (this is mildly exciting) 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 02:48, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Band of Angels (novel)
- ... that literary critic Leslie Fiedler called the novel Band of Angels "operatic in the worst sense of the word"?
- Source: Fiedler, Leslie A. (1955-09-26). "Romance in the Operatic Manner." The New Republic, vol. 26. pp. 28-30.
- ALT1: ... that Pulitzer Prize winner Robert Penn Warren wrote a novel called Band of Angels about a woman who is enslaved in order to pay her father's debts? Source: "Band of Angels" Review (1955-08-01). Bulletin from Virginia Kirkus' Service. New York: Kirkus Media, LLC.
- ALT2: ... that Robert Penn Warren's novel Band of Angels was adapted into a film starring Clark Gable and Sidney Poitier? Source: Band of Angels. Turner Classic Movies. Accessed 2024-06-16.
- Reviewed:
MattMauler (talk) 03:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Looks good, thanks for expanding the article! I'm partial to the initial hook, but either of the ALTs will work too. ThaesOfereode (talk) 23:12, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Kho Ping Hoo
- ... that Kho Ping Hoo, despite writing numerous stories based on wuxia, could not read Chinese?
- Source: Sawega, Ardus M. (22 July 1994). "Asmaraman Kho Ping Hoo: "Saya Telah Iklas Pergi ..."" [Asmaraman Kho Ping Hoo: "I've Accepted My Departure ..."]. Kompas (in Indonesian). Jakarta. p. 20.
- ALT1: ... that Kho Ping Hoo disliked the film adaptations of his works, feeling that they were almost pornographic? Source: Sidharta, Myra (1994). "Asmaraman Sukowati Kho Ping Hoo (b. 1926): Writer of Cloak-and-dagger Stories in Indonesia". Archipel. 48: 163. doi:10.3406/arch.1994.3007.
- ALT2: ... that Kho Ping Hoo, a writer of martial arts stories, would work on up to four manuscripts simultaneously? Source: Sidharta, Myra (1994). "Asmaraman Sukowati Kho Ping Hoo (b. 1926): Writer of Cloak-and-dagger Stories in Indonesia". Archipel. 48: 160. doi:10.3406/arch.1994.3007.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hock burns
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:08, 17 June 2024 (UTC).
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Leaning more towards original and ALT2; I'll leave the choice up to another reviewer. Great work here! --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 18:52, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 18[edit]
WOTF-TV, Michael Wettlaufer
- ... that a U.S. Navy plane piloted by Michael Wettlaufer (pictured) clipped the tower of a Florida TV station while on a training mission, forcing it off the air for nearly five years? Source: https://newspapers.com/article/the-orlando-sentinel-navy-plane-topples/149592126/ + https://newspapers.com/article/the-orlando-sentinel-top-guns-took-out-t/149612541/ + https://newspapers.com/article/the-orlando-sentinel-daytonas-channel-2/149449193/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Timeline of Partygate + Template:Did you know nominations/Brittany Luse
- Comment: You thought "radio station + public library" was a pairing? Try "TV station + Navy rear admiral"! Thanks to CommissarDoggo for helping with the Wettlaufer 5x (each of us only expanded one article). CommissarDoggo has no prior nominations, but I supplied two QPQs.
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:59, 20 June 2024 (UTC). Both articles:
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Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 15:52, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
WUEC
- ... that the radio station at the University of Wisconsin–Eau Claire would close in the middle of the day so students could attend tasks and carry out production work? Source: https://www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/article/leader-telegram-campus-radio-climbs-up-t/149403265/
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:45, 18 June 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:24, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 19[edit]
Judy Kellogg Markowsky
- ... that American ornithologist Judy Kellogg Markowsky died afer disappearing in the river that she worked to protect during her life?
- Source: "Bangor-area naturalist receives lifetime environmental award". Bangor Daily News. October 13, 2011. Retrieved June 19, 2024. and Ricker, Nok-Noi (August 5, 2011). "Body of well-known Hampden naturalist found in river". Bangor Daily News. Retrieved June 19, 2024.
SL93 (talk) 23:34, 19 June 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:11, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:20, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
L'Aube rouge (novel)
- ... that a novel about Madagascar's colonization could not be published until decades after its author's suicide?
- Source: Adejunmobi, Moradewun (January 1994). "History and Ideology in Jean-Joseph Rabearivelo's Prose Works". Canadian Journal of African Studies / Revue canadienne des études africaines. 28 (2): 219–235. doi:10.1080/00083968.1994.10804351. ISSN 0008-3968.
- ALT1: ... that Jean-Joseph Rabearivelo spared the manuscript of his first novel from destruction before his suicide? Source: Adejunmobi, Moradewun (January 1994). "History and Ideology in Jean-Joseph Rabearivelo's Prose Works". Canadian Journal of African Studies / Revue canadienne des études africaines. 28 (2): 219–235. doi:10.1080/00083968.1994.10804351. ISSN 0008-3968.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sea Life Brighton
꧁Zanahary꧂ 03:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC).
Honestly, WP (along with Wikisource) needs more Malagasy-related topics over time. See you on the front page! --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 08:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Slgrandson! Is there an ALT you think is better? If not, no worries, as someone else down the line can decide. I think I prefer ALT0. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 15:55, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 21[edit]
Articles created/expanded on June 22[edit]
Georg Kareski
- ... that Zionist activist Georg Kareski defended the Nuremberg Laws in a Nazi newspaper? Source: https://www.jta.org/archive/kareski-quoted-by-angriff-as-justifying-nuremberg-laws
(t · c) buidhe 05:54, 22 June 2024 (UTC).
Hi Buidhe (talk), review follows: article created 22 June; article is on the shorter side but exceeds minimum length; sources look to be reliable for the information cited; a QPQ has been carried out; hook fact is interesting and stated in the article. I don't have access to the academic sources cited but happy to assume they support the statement, the JTA contemporary source reports the fact. I didn't spot any overly close paraphrasing from the sources I could access. Looks fine to me, interesting article/subject - Dumelow (talk) 12:11, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 23[edit]
Ascension Island Marine Protected Area
- ... that Ascension Island has declared its entire ocean territory a protected area with no commercial fishing permitted? Source: Pew Trusts
- ALT1: ... that research undertaken to create the Ascension Island Marine Protected Area found it would be more economical to ban commercial fishing altogether than to sell fishing licences? Source: Muench et al. 2022: "It was concluded that the current number of licenses sold would not cover the monitoring and enforcement cost for option 1: partial closure of the EEZ"
- ALT2: ... that the South Atlantic Anomaly prevents some remote sensing methods from working over the Ascension Island Marine Protected Area? Source: Rowlands et a. 2019: "VIIRS night time vessel detection products are locally ineffective because of the South Atlantic magnetic anomaly"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Texas Centennial half dollar
- Comment: Other hook ideas welcome!
CMD (talk) 14:47, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:11, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Cobra Crack
- ... that when Didier Berthod failed to make the first free ascent of Cobra Crack (pictured) in 2005, he quit climbing and became a Franciscan monk, but returned in 2024 to make the 20th ascent?
- Source: Climbing Mazine, PlanetMountain
Aszx5000 (talk) 13:57, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is done. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 03:01, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 24[edit]
Jean-Pierre Lévy (resistance leader)
- ... that youthful Second World War resistance leader Jean-Pierre Lévy was advised by the Free French intelligence service to dye his hair grey to appear older?
- Source: "In Franc-Tireur the 55-year-old Marc Bloch took orders from the 31-year-old Jean-Pierre Lévy. Lévy looked so young for a resistance leader that BCRA even experimented with dying his temples grey" from: Jackson, Julian (5 March 2003). France: The Dark Years, 1940-1944. OUP Oxford. p. 513. ISBN 978-0-19-162288-5.
Dumelow (talk) 07:55, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: All looks good! Article was very interesting to read and the hook definitely grabbed me. Verified the fact in the cited source. Approved as is. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC) Grnrchst (talk) 09:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC)