Talk:Beth Israel

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Beth Israel Synagogue, Cambridge, Massachusetts

I normally wouldn't add a red-linked item to a dablist, but since the Beth Israel Synagogue is on the List of Registered Historic Places in Cambridge, Massachusetts it should, and no doubt someday will, have its own article. Jayjg ^(talk) 04:01, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I added other NRHP-listed ones just now, too. Redlink entries can be included in a disambiguation page according to policy at MOS:DABRL, if they are followed by a bluelink link to another wikipedia article mentioning the same redlink in context. For NRHP-listed places, this is provided by links to state or county NRHP list-articles. doncram (talk) 12:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What's it mean?

OK, I am intrigued - what links all the 'Beth Israel' items apart from name? Does it have a particular meaning or connotation (moderate/philanthrpic etc. I have no idea, but I then again as a goy I can be excused I guess....Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, there's nothing in particular that links them, aside from the fact that it's a very popular name for synagogues: "House of Israel", about as generic a name for a synagogue as one could imagine. Jayjg ^(talk) 03:59, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aha (belated reply), so it is a name-only association, not linked to a specific subculture e.g. conservative/orthodox/reform.(?) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Casliber (very very very belated reply), that's more or less correct, although my sense is that it's also a kind of old-fashioned name, much more popular in the late 19th to mid-20th century than now, so you're generally going to find it on Conservative/Reform congregations, including quite a few that used to be Orthodox. Jayjg ^(talk) 14:01, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(I do wonder what the longest time between wiki exchanges is...) it'd be good if there was a source that discussed it - like maybe it was a popular and nostalgic connotation for a certain period or that the original Beth Israel was particularly notable or something and add as a line or two to this page. Though of course if no-one has, then no-one has and we can't add....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:33, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'll look to see if there's anything that discusses it. Jayjg ^(talk) 13:22, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notatbility of entries; external link ones may be removed

I notice many entries are not links to wikipedia pages (as either bluelinks or redlinks), but rather are external links. This does not conform to wp:MOSDAB guidelines. All the external-link-only ones could be removed; there is no need for disambiguation of them. And, the notability of these is not apparent or asserted, so there's no support for retaining red-links for them either, I believe.

By the way, I visited here to fix up the NRHP ones (to ensure they're covered, and to provide one bluelink per NRHP entry). If there is no article yet, I provide a bluelink to an article that does refer to the place. NRHP ones' notability is established by their being NRHP-listed, hence extensive verifiable documentation is available.

Depending on any discussion here, i may go ahead and remove the external-link-only entries. doncram (talk) 09:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've just removed the external and red links. As you said, MoS:DAB (and WP:BEBOLD). I still wonder if all the places that do have an article really are notable. WP:NOTYELLOW. Maybe, as many of them are NRHP-listed.--ospalh (talk) 10:16, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just reconstructed the NRHP ones, including red-link ones. These are adequately supported by links to state- or county-NRHP-list-articles. Please do not rip out these again. This complies with MOS:DABRL which explicitly allows for redlinks. The disambiguation treatment of NRHP entries was discussed at the Disambiguation Wikiproject in a long discussion now archived here. If you have some general objection about NRHP redlink entries in disambiguation pages, please raise it in a general forum such at the talk page of the NRHP or Disambiguation wikiprojects, and please post notice at the Talk page of NRHP wikiproject. doncram (talk) 12:53, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Restructure?

I wonder if this wouldn't be better as purely a list of synagogues? The other non-temple entries would be moved to Beth Israel (disambiguation), and this would serve as just a {{synagogue disambiguation}} (possibly as Beth Israel Synagogue (disambiguation) ) or {{set index article}} page -- 65.94.170.207 (talk) 12:06, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]