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clarifying "he" in the third paragraph

> He carried out the execution of Arsinoe at her request

In the third paragraph there is a lot of Cleopatra and Antony except this sentence. Something about how it follows the previous one makes it a bit confusing in the flow, perhaps because there are 3 he's in the previous sentence, although on re-reading (and confirming at the Arsinoe article) Antony is the correct he here. Improving it might involve editing the surrounding sentences too. JustGaro (talk) 15:47, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@JustGaro@ 2601:589:5180:9AE0:B069:5140:349B:E195 (talk) 23:47, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JustGaro 2601:407:8500:B350:19F6:A5F0:AA4D:85A5 (talk) 02:33, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

redundant formulation

the "Egyptian" look similar to the queens Cleopatra and Nefertiti -- this phrase is redundant because, for popular purposes, Cleopatra and Nefertiti "look Egyptian". -- Melchior2006 (talk) 08:29, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cleopatra was not of Egyptian descent thou?. Neither was Trajan, and he can be seen in Egyptian murals decked out in Pharaonic attire. 2A00:23C8:A72F:4A01:190A:97D7:47CF:38ED (talk) 11:49, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! Adding to that, Cleopatra and Nefertiti wore very different attire and royal headgear per their surviving portraits (with some obvious similarities and symbolism like the uraeus that was a mainstay in Egyptian culture). And of course Nefertiti (who lived during the Bronze Age) never wore a Hellenistic Greek style diadem that Cleopatra was often seen wearing. I personally don't find the quoted statement in the article to be redundant. Sometimes it is preferable if not necessary to use clear examples to avoid ambiguity, especially if it is a point being emphasized in a cited scholarly source by an academic expert on the subject. Pericles of Athens^Talk 16:49, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Illiterate

This article is almost unreadable with too much detail and subsidiary stories crammed into what passes for a narrative. It’s an important subject. Could someone with a grasp of English please rewrite this from scratch? 213.18.182.0 (talk) 17:33, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh sure, I'll get right on rewriting this article from scratch.

While you're making reasonable requests, could I make one that you point to particular problem passages that illustrate your point? Remsense ‥ 论 18:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Change in infobox image

Current image

Proposed replacement

I don't feel too strongly about this, but I do feel another image for the infobox probably would be better. Basically the same thing but a more front-facing view. Zinderboff(talk) 21:04, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]