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Former featured articleHurricane Katrina is a former featured article. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check the nomination archive) and why it was removed.
Main Page trophyThis article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on September 29, 2006.
On this day... Article milestones
DateProcessResult
May 29, 2006WikiProject A-class reviewApproved
June 5, 2006Peer reviewReviewed
June 23, 2006Featured article candidatePromoted
March 28, 2010Featured article reviewDemoted
On this day... Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on August 29, 2006, August 29, 2007, August 29, 2009, August 29, 2010, and August 29, 2015.
Current status: Former featured article

Mississippi River-Gulf Outlet Canal to MRGO acronym needs clarified.

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Should add (MRGO) after Mississippi River-Gulf Outlet in the Analysis of New Orleans levee failures section.

To do list to improve Katrina back to good/featured article status

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There is about a year before Katrina's 20 year anniversary, and there is a lot that would have to be done to improve this back to featured article status. Part of that includes figuring out all of the various sub-articles, some of which are going to need to be updated for the sake of the main article. I'm thinking specifically about longterm aftermath and rebuilding of New Orleans/Gulf Coast, the political impacts, criticism of government response. These are some pretty tricky topics that will impact the main article. I also want to point out that, because there's a sub-article for Katrina's effects in New Orleans, but not Louisiana specifically, that the state-by-state impacts will be in Hurricane Katrina effects by region. There's a possibility that article will end up containing some of the info in the US outside of the Gulf Coast states that have sub-articles, but I'm guessing those impacts aren't that much. There's already a tornado outbreak article, which leaves the other forms of Katrina's impacts across Georgia, Tennessee, Arkansas, into the northeastern United States and Canada. Those areas aren't the most significant in the grand scheme of things, but if Katrina is going to be featured, then all of the aspects of it need to be addressed.

This will probably require a large collaboration, so I just wanted to start the discussion now, in case there are enough interested editors out there who want to see Katrina back as a featured article for its 20 year anniversary. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just feeling users out, how would people feel about merging the Florida, Alabama, and Georgia sub-articles into Effects of Hurricane Katrina in the southeastern United States? That would be a way of addressing a few of the sub-articles. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:25, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So I briefly looked at Southeastern United States and I think that a merge would be alright. ZZZ'S 18:42, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
After browsing through the Katrina template, this article has numerous inappropriate subarticles. Merging them would definitely help the more important articles and increase their comprehensiveness, which can be improved upon and make expanding much easier. Are you willing to help, @Hurricanehink? ZZZ'S 17:03, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. A great example would be Civil engineering and infrastructure repair in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina and Reconstruction of New Orleans seem to have a lot of overlap. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:29, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect! Why don't you propose a few merges here and there then maybe we can get back to working on getting the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season to a good/featured topic? ZZZ'S 20:55, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Courtesy ping: Hurricanehink ZZZ'S 21:35, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See discussion here. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:53, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, when you're done, can you reorganise Louisiana in the Effects of Hurricane Katrina in the Southeastern United States article? It is currently a huge, ugly mess. ZZZ'S 21:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still working on Dennis, because I want to be able to take that to FAC sooner than later (ideally once Cindy is done), which is why I'm adding research articles today. But yes, I can do that once I'm done with Dennis. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:53, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merger of three sub-articles into Effects of Hurricane Katrina in the Southeastern United States

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See Draft:Effects of Hurricane Katrina in the southeastern United States. This would merge the Florida, Alabama, and Mississippi articles into one. I haven't done much formatting, just copying the content from each of the three articles. The Florida article is already a GA, so it would have to be demoted if the articles are merged. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:11, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have a few questions to ask:
  • Shouldn't "southeastern" be capitalised since it is apart of a proper noun?
  • Should Louisiana be included in the new draft?
  • How are we going to get the new draft to GA/FA status?
ZZZ'S 09:28, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe "southeastern" is a proper noun. It's not like "South Carolina" or "West Virginia". I opted for the name because we could decide to exclude Louisiana, because that already essentially has its own article with the New Orleans article. As for getting it to GA/FA, I believe that will be easier when it's a few articles covering a big topic, rather than just the three separate ones. This would also be the place to cover info for Georgia, Tennessee, Carolinas, even Kentucky. I mention that because the Hurricane Katrina effects by region (see below for proposed merger) has some decent impacts for Kentucky/Tennessee. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:37, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was just wondering since the article capitalises it. Also, it appears that there were other significant impacts outside of Louisiana in both Hurricane Katrina twice and Hurricane Katrina effects by region, but including it should be based on the local community's consensus. However, we could always boldly add it. No one is stopping us.ZZZ'S 18:50, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just want to mention that the region includes Louisiana in the articles. ZZZ'S 18:56, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, it does capitalize, so I changed it. And yea, that's why I think the proposed article is warranted. That way there'll be an article for the effects near New Orleans (and Louisiana by extension), and then a separate article for the rest of the US. I want to note that I proposed moving the New Orleans sub-article to Effects of Hurricane Katrina in Louisiana, but that was rejected because the current article doesn't cover the rest of Louisiana. So that's why I don't think the proposed article should include Louisiana. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:58, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't want the New Orleans article to be moved to Louisiana. I think there should be a section for Louisiana impacts, with a summarised version of New Orleans as a subsection. Here's a visual example:
=== Louisiana ===
Non-New Orleans impacts go here
==== New Orleans ====
Summarised version of the New Orleans article go here
--ZZZ'S 19:05, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I could get behind that. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good. I'm going to boldly add it to the draft. Let me know what you think. ZZZ'S 19:12, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done. It might be a bit long, but I think you can merge some of the subsections and maybe move some text to the appropriate place. ZZZ'S 19:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly that's a great place to start. I'm seeing a similar issue with Dennis. There's a lot of broken links, and some of it needs rewriting for a broader perspective and better narrative flow. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:35, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While you reword Hurricane Dennis, I'll try to do some copyediting on Hurricane Katrina. Before I go back to work, I think we should nominate it for GA first, which shows that we're going a step in the right direction. Also, it's easier and less time-consuming. ZZZ'S 20:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alright I went ahead and did this. This will make managing the information easier in the long run, hopefully. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:38, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll condense the Louisiana section by making each parish one paragraph, add some sources, then possibly try to expand Alabama since it was also severely affected by Katrina, but not as much as Louisiana and Mississippi. ZZZ'S 21:46, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome. I don't think I'm ready to start tackling Katrina yet. I'll wanna save some editing attention for Dennis, figuring that might need some more love before FAC, and I'm thinking Stan is going to be more annoying since it's in a foreign language. But the ball is moving. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:48, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Great. On an unrelated note, how's the Hurricane Herald doing? ZZZ'S 21:49, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
About as in limbo as other various ADHD-related unfinished tasks are. I would want a new newsletter to better capture what's happened in the last few years, add the new members. Here is the newsletter in its unfinished but nearly-ready state. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:02, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. Let me know when someone begins the Dennis review. I'll go back to working on the Katrina article once I return to my house where I can use my computer. For now, I'll do some minor copy editing here and there. ZZZ'S 22:15, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Typhoon Katrina has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 17 § Typhoon Katrina until a consensus is reached. ZZZ'S 23:36, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]