Talk:Joel Zumaya

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Radar gun readings for 2006 ALDS game 2[edit]

It seemed like the radar gun was exaggerating the velocities of all the pitchers by about 3mph, as Todd Jones (who normally throws a low 90s fastball) was recorded in the mid 90s, and Justin Verlander (who occasionally tops 100 in unoffical readings) was often recorded at 100 and 101. I'm not sure if this should be added as a qualifying comment. 212.113.23.124 15:46, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

USA Today questions Fox's readings too; I will post a link to their recent article which mentioned that after I finish expanding a new section about his fastballs tonight. --Idont Havaname (Talk) 05:01, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Enhanced Gameday reading of 104.8 MPH (2006 ALCS Game 1)[edit]

We need a source for this: "During this game (2006 ALCS Game 1), a special feature on MLB.com called Enhanced Gameday 2006, which tracks the speeds and locations of pitches with very good accuracy, recorded a Zumaya fastball at 104.8 mph, which rounds up to 105 mph. If so that will be the fastest pitch ever; the pitch was on a 2-1 count to Frank Thomas which was a swinging strike." None of the news sources on Google News have reported that. I was watching Fox's radar gun very intently when Zumaya was pitching last night, and I don't recall seeing anything over 103. 103 is also the figure that I have seen on Google News tonight. The 104 MPH grand slam pitch to Ken Griffey, Jr., in May can be seen in the top play archives on the Reds website; I'll be adding a link to that page. --Idont Havaname (Talk) 05:08, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the reference I think you are seeking: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/articles/fastest-pitcher-in-baseball.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by David Berman (talk • contribs) 23:02, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Relief Ace"[edit]

I could not make sense out of this sentence. If someone can clarify it, they may want to re-insert it. 

 "Based on his ability to pitch at any given point in a game, he could be viewed as the Tigers "relief ace"."

What pitcher can't pitch at any point in the game? Also, if there's an ace, it's the closer Todd Jones. I happen to think Zumaya should be the closer, but the Jones has the job and is the ace.

  • I believe it's in reference to him being able to shut down offenses in any role, whether it be middle relief, set-up guy, or maybe closing. Drjayphd 03:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Drjayphd is correct. I was using a term that probably not every baseball fan is familiar with. While you're right that any pitcher could pitch at any given point, it's the idea that your best reliever is not automatically viewed as the "closer". For instance, rather than having a designated "setup man" only come in in the 8th innning, you could have bring him in in the 7th or even the 6th. Also, lefty and righty batter-picther matchups are usually disregarded, as Zumaya is equally tough on left-handed batters. Therefore, Zumaya could be brought in at any point during the game as the manager deems necessary, rather than using him in a pre-determined or limited role. I obviously didn't elaborate on the term; perhaps I'll include something along these lines in the article at a later date. TheKuLeR 02:09, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Use in a measure of time[edit]

I have recognized his 103-mph fastball as the basis of the time in which the fastest fastball takes from going from the pitcher to home plate in baseball -- roughly 0.4 seconds (400 milliseconds). The imprecision relates more to the question of where the baseball leaves the pitcher's hands. Because baseball is a significant sport in almost every country in the western hemisphere (Brazil the most obvious exception) and some others, this is a relaevant duration to many people.

I have also added him to a list of significant pitchers in baseball. One year is hardly an indication of a career, but should Zumaya maintain anything like a 103 mph fastball, he will be one of the toughest pitchers to hit, whatever his role, for a considerable time. --Paul from Michigan 23:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Guitar Hero[edit]

Don't kill that bit, I'm trying to find the citations as we speak. Problem is it was on a Detroit radio station and I, uh, don't live there. Drjayphd 03:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How does a professional baseball player get a sore wrist from Guitar Hero?!128.208.86.156 (talk) 18:03, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Types of pitches?[edit]

Anyone know the exact types of pitches he throws? He obviously throws a fastball and a change up, but I've heard conflicting reports of his breaking ball. Is it a knuckle curve, power curve, or slider? I'm not sure if there's any source to check on these things.TheKuLeR 08:03, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

I just did a major overhaul of the references on this article, setting them up to appear in the references list at the bottom of the page, giving them ref names so that repeat-cites can be done easily, and fixing broken references. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find a cite for Ryan's "official" record fastball, so I just cited Guinness... and I no longer have any copies of the book to get publishing data and a page. If anyone can find it to fix that, I'd be grateful... Rdfox 76 13:56, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Record-setting fastballs section requires cleanup[edit]

The record results go back and forth back and forth like people just kept tacking on more and more incidences of 100+mph pitches, also there appears to be duplication throughout. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pavelow235 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Revist fastball info[edit]

I removed a lot of the information in the article from the "Record setting fastball" section because, like the post above says, it read like a history of 100 MPH fastballs. That's interesting info, but it is not relevant to Joel Zumaya. I called it original research because the information was not "directly related" to Joel Zumaya, as required by WP:OR. I also tagged the quotes with {{fact}} because WP:PRIMARY requires primary sources when published by a reliable source, which the quotes were not. — X96lee15 (talk) 16:42, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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