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I removed the Kerr picture because it represents jaguar deities associated with darkness instead of the sun deity.77.162.130.139 (talk) 16:08, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I think the new one is better. --91.64.237.72 (talk) 16:45, 31 October 2009 (UTC):No, I am sorry, it is still a jaguar deity (the one associated with terrestrial fire)!77.162.130.139 (talk) 17:12, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge from Ah Kin?

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I have proposed a merge, since some web sources indicate that Ah Kin is an alternative name-form for the same solar god as Kinich Ahau. However, I know very little about Mayan mythology, and hence cannot judge the validity of the web sources. Moreover, if the merge should be made, I don't know whether Ah Kin should be put as one alternative name in the beginning of the article ("true synonyms"), or whether instead e. g. the section Other gods with solar aspects should be enlarged with a section about Ah Kin ("partial overlap" or "subcase"). Someone with better knowledge and/or access to good written sources should decide, and perform the merge (if that is the decision).

I also should mention that one uninlogged user argued for redirecting Ah Kin to Maya priesthood, since (s)he had found a claim that Ah Kin was used as a priestly title; see Talk:Ah Kin#change to Redirect. JoergenB (talk) 19:13, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is no point in the suggested merge. The Ah Kin article is a hodge-podge with one of the countless unreliable encyclopedias of religions, gods, etc. for a reference, and should better be deleted. I did, however, make a new section in the Kinich Ahau article to deal with the Ah K'in (and more specifically, Ah K'in Chob) question. Ah K'in, by the way, already redirects to Maya Priesthood.77.162.130.139 (talk) 22:35, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah K'in once more

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I moved the Ah K'in section to the discussion of the name of the sun god and in the process eliminated repetitions and statements without reference. I also removed the picture of a ceramic statue of a priest, since it is out of place in this article about the sun deity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Retal (talkcontribs) 20:31, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Kinich Ahau or Hunahpú or both?

According to the source of the image at right, it depicts "Hunahpú as Sun God". In this article we currently caption it as "Kinich Ahau as a ruler, Classic period". But according to our article, "the Hero Twins, Hunahpu and Xbalanque, although stated to have changed into Sun and Moon, are never shown assimilated to God G." Either than sentence is incorrect or the caption is incorrect. Which is it? Nosferattus (talk) 05:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Retal: Perhaps you might know the answer. Nosferattus (talk) 05:49, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The type of the deity (middle age, squinting eye) is that of God G (the sun god, K'inich Ahau), an identification confirmed by the k'in (sun)-signs on arms and (more clearly) legs. The headband repeatedly occurs with the sun god, probably as a sign of rulership. Clearly, a headband alone is not enough to identify a deity as Hunahpu. The caption "Hunahpú as Sun God" is therefore incorrect. Retal (talk) 23:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]