Talk:October 3–5, 2013 tornado outbreak
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[edit]I am nominating this article for deletion do to its lack of notability. This outbreak meets none of the criteria for an outbreak article. TornadoLGS (talk) 13:58, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
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Keep- I believe that at a minimum, the page should be merged into Tornadoes_of_2013#October_3.E2.80.934. That being said, Rapid City, the second largest city in South Dakota, was engulfed in over 1.9 feet of snow (which exceeds the amount of snow that the city has ever recorded during any whole month of October). Additionally, Rapid City snowfall on October 4 broke the previous one-day snowfall record for October by about 9 inches. --Jax 0677 (talk) 17:45, 7 October 2013 (UTC) - Delete - Aside from the wonky wording (when does "juicy" ever have a place in an encyclopedia when referring to anything weather-related...), the overall tornado event was relatively small and not major. The most notable aspect of this storm was the winter side and the blizzard itself already has an article, albeit totally undeveloped, at October 2013 Great Plains blizzard. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 18:19, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
- Redirect to October 2013 Great Plains blizzard - Due to the presence of October 2013 Great Plains blizzard, I am changing my position to redirect per WP:CHEAP. Thoughts? --Jax 0677 (talk) 18:37, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not so sure, as the blizzard article has also been nominated for deletion. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/October 2013 Great Plains blizzard. I'd want to see if that article is salvageable first. TornadoLGS (talk) 18:45, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
- Comment - Is there agreement however that the article should be redirected somewhere, albeit Tornadoes_of_2013#October_3.E2.80.934? Additionally, October 2013 Great Plains blizzard should at a minimum, be redirected to Tornadoes_of_2013#October_3.E2.80.934 (or some equivalent article that is more largely encompassing). --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:54, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- It actually seems that things are moving toward merging this with October 2013 Great Plains blizzard and renaming that article to mention both the blizzard and the tornado outbreak. I don't think we would redirect the blizzard article to Tornadoes of 2013, as that article is about tornadoes, not blizzards. TornadoLGS (talk) 20:18, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- If this is merged that's fine, but if it's redirected I intend to nominate the resulting redirect for deletion as an implausible redirect. "October 2013 Upper Midwest tornado" is a bit of a ridiculous title, even for a redirect. I would support moving this page to "October 2013 tornado outbreak" and having that as a redirect, however. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 20:23, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, done that. So should I replace the deletion proposal with a merge proposal? TornadoLGS (talk) 20:37, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- I don't see why not. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 20:39, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- I'm a little late here, but I would support merging this into the blizzard article. However, I do not feel the need to have the tornado table and all of that in there. A couple paragraphs is fine. United States Man (talk) 03:17, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
- I don't see why not. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 20:39, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, done that. So should I replace the deletion proposal with a merge proposal? TornadoLGS (talk) 20:37, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- If this is merged that's fine, but if it's redirected I intend to nominate the resulting redirect for deletion as an implausible redirect. "October 2013 Upper Midwest tornado" is a bit of a ridiculous title, even for a redirect. I would support moving this page to "October 2013 tornado outbreak" and having that as a redirect, however. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 20:23, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- It actually seems that things are moving toward merging this with October 2013 Great Plains blizzard and renaming that article to mention both the blizzard and the tornado outbreak. I don't think we would redirect the blizzard article to Tornadoes of 2013, as that article is about tornadoes, not blizzards. TornadoLGS (talk) 20:18, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- Comment - Is there agreement however that the article should be redirected somewhere, albeit Tornadoes_of_2013#October_3.E2.80.934? Additionally, October 2013 Great Plains blizzard should at a minimum, be redirected to Tornadoes_of_2013#October_3.E2.80.934 (or some equivalent article that is more largely encompassing). --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:54, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not so sure, as the blizzard article has also been nominated for deletion. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/October 2013 Great Plains blizzard. I'd want to see if that article is salvageable first. TornadoLGS (talk) 18:45, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
I would at least want a small tornado chart, given that there were at least five significant tornadoes.
EFU | EF0 | EF1 | EF2 | EF3 | EF4 | EF5 |
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0 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 0 |
But should we merge it as soon as we can or wait for the AfD to conclude on the other page? TornadoLGS (talk) 03:34, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
- It can be marged now since the AfD is over. United States Man (talk) 21:49, 14 October 2013 (UTC)