Talk:Pazardzhik

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Pazardzhik article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Untitled

Hi, I don't think this article should be moved to "Pazardzhik Province", so I reverted the change. I don't think an article about a city should be under the 'province' article, even if the latter has more information on the city than this one. I think it'd be better to remove all the city-information from the province article, and insert that information into this one. Also, please keep in mind that when you delete everything in an article, you also delete the 'interwikilinks' to articles in other languages. I'd be happy to help with these articles, let me know what you think about my proposal --JoanneB 10:36, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted name

I deleted the name of the city in Turkish cause I think English and national language (Bulgarian in this case) are just enough. Can we have some rules defining what languages are to be shown in head sentence? Your opinions are welcome.--Valkov 17:15, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Population!

Hi, I am pretty sure that in the Bulgarian Wikipedia it is stated that the population of the city of Pazardzhik (Пазарджик) is merely 78,493, which is about 40,000 people less than the number stated on the English Wikipedia (117,717). I hope someone can fix this mistake. Thanks, User:Dako1 12:18, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 4 external links on Pazardzhik. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 13:44, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Turkish Gypsies

Per study of Elena Marušiakova and Veselin Popov, The Bulgarian Gypsies – Searching their Place in the Society, Balkanologie, Vol. IV, issue 2, 2000: "Some parts of these communities gradually become differentiated on the basis of their preferred ethnic identity such as some Muslim / “Turkish Gypsies” who have lost most of their group specifics and are often bilingual (speaking Turkish and Romani) or entirely monolingual (speaking only Turkish). They prefer to introduce themselves as Turks."
Per study of Krastev, Georgi et al, Research and Science Today; Targu-Jiu Iss. 2, (Nov 2019): 55-63.Gypsies/Roma in Bulgaria professing Islam - ethnic identity (retrospections and projections): "Very often, the surrounding are called Turkish Gypsies or Horohane Roma, and this name also dates back to the Ottoman Empire when mixed religion and ethnicity. Horohane Roma are a heterogeneous community, and identity is complex, defined on different levels, which are often blurred, and with a dual orientation towards the Turkish or the Gypsy community. They are scattered all over the country, and in some areas are the most numerous ethnic minority... Here are some examples. At the beginning of the 21st century, the mosques were built in the Roma neighborhoods “Iztok” in Pazardjk and “Nadezhda” in Sliven"...The new mosque in Pazardjik, built in a private property funded with money from abroad, is also named after the leader of an Islamic state. This speaks of a certain radicalization in Pazardzhik's Roma neighborhood, a case without analogy, concealing new dangers for ethnic and religious peace...Nowadays the Roma neighborhoodsin Pazardzhik resembles Arab neighborhoods of the Middle East, were man must wear beards and women burqas. "
Per study of M. Mancheva and R. Dzhekova, Working Paper, February 2017, Risks of Islamist Radicalisation in Bulgaria: A Case Study in the Iztok Neighbourhood of the City of Pazardzhik, Sofia, Center for the Study of Democracy: " The inhabitants of the Iztok neighbourhood in the city of Pazardzhik belong to two of the larger Romani groups – Daskane Roma, a literal translation for Bulgarian or Christian Gypsies, who speak a Balkan dialect of Romani influenced considerably by the Bulgarian language, and the so called Horahane Roma, a literal translation for Turkish or Muslim Gypsies, who speak a Balkan dialect of Romani influenced considerably by the Turkish language. According to data from the 2011 Census, which covered certain control areas of the Iztok neighbourhood in the city of Pazardzhik, 40 percent of the neighbourhood inhabitants self-identified as Bulgarians, 27 percent as Turks, and 20 percent as Roma."
The conclusion is that a large part of the Roma in Pazardzhik profess Islam and identify themselves as Turks. Also, their number increases and they began to radicalize under the influence of preachers from the Middle East. Nowhere in the researches is any mention of original Turks in Pazardzhik, while there are many traditional Turkish communities elsewhere in the country. Jingiby (talk) 05:59, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Neither discussion was held, nor sources were provided for the recent changes again. Jingiby (talk) 09:33, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]