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Good articleSummer Wars has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
June 3, 2010Peer reviewReviewed
February 26, 2011Peer reviewReviewed
May 10, 2011Good article nomineeListed
June 14, 2011Peer reviewReviewed
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 20, 2009.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Summer Wars was the first Japanese animated film to be included for competition at the Locarno International Film Festival?
Current status: Good article

Review(s)

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English reviews

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--KrebMarkt (talk) 20:06, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese reviews

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Arsonal (talk) 06:46, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Digimon

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Shouldn't there be some sort of mention to the fact this is the same director as the digimon movie and that the plot is a virtual remake? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Owlofcreamcheese (talk • contribs) 23:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For the Digimon reference, you may have to find a reliable, third-party source. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:01, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have found an article on Anime Vice that compares the two. Would that count as a reliable source? This is the article: http://www.animevice.com/news/summer-wars-vs-digimon-our-war-game/5100/

Another link: http://www.theazotaku.com/2009/12/summer-wars.html

And another on comparisons, scene-by-scene: http://actar.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/summer-wars-versus-the-second-digimon-movie/ ggctuk (2005) (talk) 21:31, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Um, the sources are all blogs, and they normally cannot be used as reliable sources unless they are official websites, such as Funimation. So, none of those would not count as reliable, third-party sources. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:18, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. Can we use a magazine as a source? Because NEO issue 82 also points out the similarities. ggctuk (2005) (talk) 18:50, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Neo Magazine counts as a third-party reliable source, and it does not need to be verified any further. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:57, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Here's what I have quickly put together:

NEO magazine noted the similarities between Summer Wars and a previous work of Hosoda, Digimon Adventure: Our War Game, noting that the latter was "plainly a prototype" for Summer Wars.


Obviously this is rough, but once we polish this up, where, if it isn't rewritten, should this be inserted into the article? into the reviews section? Or some place else? ggctuk (2005) (talk) 16:28, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Digimon thing should go into the production section as it was one of the influences during production. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 19:23, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Give me some time to reword this bit. As it stands it would feel awkward going into the production section. ggctuk (2005) (talk) 19:57, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Copyedit March 2011

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Hi

During the copyedit some things came to light that may need attention:

Lead
  • "With the aid of upper-classman Natsuki Shinohara's" - not sure what this is, if it is someone from school in a higher class, or referring to an upper-class person.
Plot
  • "professor who has been gone for ten years." - Gone from where?
Box office performance
  • "..United States the film grossed $1,412 in its opening.." - were the figures really that low? If so should this not be quantified by "United States box office takings were not so good with the film grossing..." or "something similar?
  • "had grossed $80,678 in North America." - This includes Canada, Mexico, etc.? North_America#Countries_and_territories - also first para next section.
Film festival screenings
  • "Summer Wars had its North American premiere" - The previous section says that the first North American screening was going to be in Chicago, but it says here it was in NY?
  • "dub of the film premiered at the New York International Children's Film Festival on November 20, 2010" - that page says the film festival takes place in March every year.
Critical response
  • "establish himself as truly a master story teller." - The ref here was exactly the same as the next one. Both were from the Brown page [Our thanks to Guillem Rosset for the following review.]" [2]. This is not by Brown at all it seems...I have combined them both in to one ref. Care must be taken here, this site appears to be owned by Brown but he is publishing reviews in an almost IMDB like format.
Accolades
Notes
  • Ensure that quotations are correctly punctuated. If the original has a comma it goes inside " ," if not it goes outside " ", same with periods.
  • Dates using the American method should have commas: "April 1, 2010 was" should be "April 1, 2010, was".
  • Accolades - one paragraph was very long so I separated them to leave the NY reviews as one block para.

Chaosdruid (talk) 10:15, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Differences Between Theatrical and Blu-Ray Release

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I can't state with absolute certainty as I do not have both copies in front of me, however I do recall a moment during my cinema viewing of Summer Wars that differs to that of the Blu-Ray.

The night before the grand-mother dies the 'Love Machine' A.I. makes some investigations and discovers the cardiac monitor (indicated via the family crest). It then turns that monitor off.

This is not shown on the blu-ray edition and I cannot find any details on the internet as to why the edit was made (or if this is indeed the case). Could anyone else confirm or deny this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.0.97.236 (talk) 19:27, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Did it actually turn it off? or is that only implied in the theatrical version? I cannot speak for the Blu-Ray version since I have the DVD version and we actually see Love Machine discover the cardiac monitor, although we don't see it turn the monitor off. ggctuk (2005) (talk) 20:12, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The scene where Love Machine turns off Sakae's monitor is not used in either version, so it is pretty safe to assume that it should not be included in the article and both versions contain the same scene. In any case, differences between film releases would have to be backed up by a third-party reliable sources to verify those claims. Hope this sorts everything out. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:21, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I cannot recall if Love Machine turns off the monitor, but the whole tracing scene did not happen on the blu-ray. I do however agree that until a reliable source is found it should not be added to the article. At the very least I am happy that I didn't just dream up the whole thing! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.0.97.236 (talk) 21:48, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 09:44, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    Passed after issues addressed


Comments by DragonZero (Talk · Contribs)
  • Reference 1: Publisher Amazon, Work Boxofficemojo. Mistake
Fixed mistake. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 3: Dead
Replaced with the PDF link. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hosoda explained how his perceptions of family were changed by marrying after completing The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, clarify?
Clarified sentence. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Does the similarity between digimon and this movie need to be noted in the development section?
Moved similarity down to reception section. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 10 did not state the large cast was the direct cause of longer-than-average production time.
Corrected sentence. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Has the soundtrack received an official English translation? If not, the romaji should come before translations. Use Nihongo3 template.
Changed. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Source for Kadokawa Shoten heavily promoting the film?
Removed. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Could the single sentence about the Korean newspaper be merged into a bigger paragraph?
The sentence has been merged. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It looks good in general. I could not review the sources that were non-english but presume they were reliable. On hold until the 15th for improvements. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 09:44, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any problems with passing this article. If I have misjudged, someone can send it to GAR. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 23:36, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Winning the Summer Wars

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Animation World Network has an article about Summer Wars here: Winning the Summer Wars. Erik (talk | contribs) 16:09, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Precognition?

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This anime has themes that could be easily connected to the real-world Stuxnet / Duqu nuclear attack military malware saga on one hand, and GPS-hacking on the other hand, e.g. the RQ-170 drone's recent forced landing in Iran.

Since the Duqu saga started in mid-2007 at the latest (but was not publicly discovered until late 2011), one must wonder if the animators had some prior knowedge to create something so strange or unrealistic at the time? 82.131.128.240 (talk) 17:42, 25 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's not exactly a new or unique concept, having been obviously influenced by WarGames and Digimon Adventure: Our War Game. 66.220.139.58 (talk) 10:25, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The setting of the pirated edition.　Shaolin Kung Fu???? 　The stage is China???

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Shorinji Kempo is original Japanese version. The stage is Japan. 60.39.45.143 (talk) 09:06, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Family tree & characters/cast

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I plan to translate these two sections from Japanese Wikipedia and include them into this article. Please clarify whether this violates Wikipedia:NOT#IINFO. I believe that the inclusion of these contents improve the article and is a work towards FA nomination. --Taweetham (talk) 00:08, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops, sorry about that! I only thought that WP:NOT#IINFO means that we don't include indiscriminate collections of informations (such as lists that are unsourced or something). Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:24, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sjones23, I agree it's WP:NOT#IINFO and it'll probably be a problem with FAC reviwers. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 20:42, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Movie in US

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The movie will be released in America on April 13, 2013. Should that be added? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.255.133.10 (talk) 00:36, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The film was already released in the US way back in 2011, but we could add the Blu-ray/DVD release (if that is reliably sourced). Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:38, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Summer Wars and Amazon ranking

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Can someone scrub the article for the Summer Wars Amazon rankings? A lot of the links there are no good anymore and don't archive that it peaked in sales. Also is it that relevant how it ranked on Amazon? Also the Twitter statements are completely unsourced. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:04, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]


I moved the paragraph here: AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:11, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

During the Toonami broadcast of 'Summer Wars' #SummerWars was the top Twitter subject during the broadcast, and the DVD became the top seller in the foreign film category and 2nd top seller behind Up on Poppy Hill, on Amazon in the hours after the Broadcast on Toonami on Dec. 15 2013.[3] as of September 2014, Summer Wars is the 3rd highest rated on Amazon's Foreign Films Category, and the 6th highest rated in the Anime category behind Soul Eater, Black Lagoon, and Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood with a rating of 4.8 out of 5 from 467 customer reviews, making it the Highest Rated Anime film on Amazon.[4] During the 2014 broadcast of Summer Wars #SummerWars became the top twitter trend during the broadcast once again beating #NickionSNL, not only this, but the film reached number 1 in Amazon's Foreign Films Category the day after its 2014 Toonami broadcast. as of November 2015, Summer Wars is 5th highest selling film on Amazon's Foreign Films Category[5] and is 2nd in Amazon's Most Gifted in the Foreign Films category behind "When Marnie was Here."[6]

References

  1. ^ Chu, Karen (September 18, 2009). "Tian's 'Warrior' to open HKAFF". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved October 15, 2009. [dead link‍]
  2. ^ "Summer Wars". Leeds International Film Festival. Retrieved October 13, 2009.
  3. ^ Amazon Best Sellers: Best Foreign Films. Amazon.com (2009-09-09). Retrieved on 2014-05-12.
  4. ^ [1] Amazon.com Retrieved on 2014-09-06.
  5. ^ "Amazon Best Sellers: Best Foreign Films". amazon.com. Retrieved 26 March 2016.
  6. ^ "Amazon.com Gift Ideas: The most popular items ordered as gifts in Foreign Films". amazon.com. Retrieved 26 March 2016.
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