Talk:Traverse (climbing)

Traverse (climbing) is currently a Other sports good article nominee. Nominated by Aszx5000 (talk) at 21:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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Short description: Section of lateral movement on a climbing route

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by Narutolovehinata5 talk 11:04, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The El Capitan Girdle Traverse spans the full width of El Capitan in Yosemite

... that the world's longest continuous rock climbing route is a horizontal 4,500-metre (14,800 ft) traverse, known as the El Capitan Girdle Traverse?

Source: https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/691902-longest-climbing-route

Reviewed:

5x expanded by Aszx5000 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Aszx5000 (talk) 19:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]

article was not expanded 5x within the previous 7 days before it was nominated on June 2. Looking at the edit history of the article, the nomination would have had to have been done sometime in mid-May to be eligible. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gonzo fan2007:, sorry but I didn't realise DYK even existed up until a short while ago, and am disappointed that a lot of articles that I expanded 5-10x since I got a full account are not eligible due to the deadline, but I thought that this one might still be allowed to squeeze in? thanks Aszx5000 (talk) 08:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aszx5000, I understand your frustration. The DYK criteria give reviewers a little leeway on the 7 day deadline, but not weeks. That said, if you can get this promoted to WP:GA, it becomes eligible for DYK again, just make sure you get the nomination in quickly after promotion. Also, please remember that a lack of Main Page recognition doesn't take away at all from the great improvement you made to the article! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 13:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks for that. Aszx5000 (talk) 14:41, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aszx5000, if you do take it to GA, let me know. I have a lot of GA reviews under my belt and happen to be an avid rock climber, so I would be happy to review it for you. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:06, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gonzo_fan2007, much appreciated and I actually have Traverse (climbing) in the GA queue, along with a few other climbing articles that I have been overhauling for the last few months. Aszx5000 (talk) 15:52, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Traverse (climbing)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Aszx5000 (talk · contribs) 21:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: LEvalyn (talk · contribs) 00:35, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Looking forward to this review-- I will surely learn a lot that's new to me. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 00:35, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Aszx5000, just pinging because I want to confirm before I go farther with this review -- will you be available to make changes in the next few weeks? ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:26, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@LEvalyn: The nominator has been inactive since 25 October, so my recommendation would be to finish the review and quickfail it if they do not respond in the next few days. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 15:32, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Prose

I feel like I don't fully understand this sentence: The term 'direttissima' (or 'direct') is used for refinements of climbing routes that dispense with traverses and rise vertically upward in the straightest possible line from the ground to the top. This makes it sound like the term only applies when a route changes and a traverse is replaced with a vertical ascent, but elsewhere in the article that doesn't seem accurate. Can you revisit this definition? It might actually be clearer if it was more concise. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 01:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In the sentence about the resulting 'pendulum falls', are pendulum falls accidental? The current writing makes it sound like they are an intentional technique but it's not clear to me. The phrase A fallen climber (both the lead and following climber) is also confusing, because it's self-contradictory regarding whether one person is falling or two. Maybe break this sentence into multiple and clarify? ~ L 🌸 (talk) 01:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is a jarring way to start a paragraph: The CAG is a key metric of 'mountain traverses'.... It feels like this sentence assumes I already know what CAG is, but the explanation was buried in parenthetical aside and I missed it on my first few read-throughs. I think re-ordering the info would work: "A key metric of mountain traverses is..." ~ L 🌸 (talk) 01:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

For the source review, I'll look at sources 5, 9, 11, 12, 15, 16, 18, and 21 as they are numbered in this diff.