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Hi, I have some questions about some of your recent edits:

[1] - you replaced sourced text that said one thing with unsourced text that said the opposite. Do you have a newer source?
[2] - you added information which looks like it comes from the existing source; except it doesn't, since the source is now a dead link. Do you have a source?
I've fixed your edit to Tobias Pflueger (you made it sound like he might be dead, rather than no longer an MEP...)

cheers, Rd232 ^talk 11:29, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Rd232,

[3] Wagenknecht is now member of the Bundestag.

[4] Redler is not a member of the party.

Derim Hunt 13:40, 6 January 2010

OK, though secondary sources would be better. Could you add those (or better sources) to the articles? Rd232 ^talk 13:32, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Sourced now so all is good thanks keep up the good work. team6and7 (talk) 17:58, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Slovakia

To replace the names your going to have to edit this template Template:Government of Slovakia. --team6and7 (talk) 16:09, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx - Derim

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AfD for Chronology_of_diplomatic_recognitions_and_relations_of_South_Sudan

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Ah, sorry - reference 5 isn't working and I tried to fix it. Maybe you can. -- Derim Hunt talk 15:39, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, Derim Hunt, I noticed your revert and the question why did you do that? This is nothing wrong, that is ReFill, a wonderful tool. Lotje (talk) 13:48, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Kosovo recognition

Hi Derim, You said "We have photos of the diplomatic notes". Could you post those on WP, since Kosovo is claiming this is 'fake news'? I only see the one for Burundi. Thanks — kwami (talk) 09:11, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That was one of the sources I meant. Another one is the one from Dominica. Twitter.— Derim Hunt (Derim Hunt) 13:15, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

But if we don't have RS's for all the countries, perhaps we should list them as possible retractions. Or maybe break up the list into those with RS support and those without. — kwami (talk) 12:23, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. The cases in which the renunciation news turned out to be wrong are already in a separate section of the article. Nothings speaks against not trusting the cases, which are always widely reported in medias all across the globe. — Derim Hunt (Derim Hunt) 17:55, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Then why don't we reference that reporting across the globe? When Kosovo says Serbia is lying, and all we have is a ref to the Serbian state news agency, how is the reader supposed to know who is telling the truth? — kwami (talk) 11:00, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, have you read the Wikipedia article? I don't know what we are discussing here. — Derim Hunt (Derim Hunt) 11:25, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have. Maybe half are confirmed, half unconfirmed.

Suriname, Burundi and Solomons seem solid. For Lesotho, they report that the Kosovar minister said so on Facebook. Not exactly solid. We don't even have the FB post in case it was disavowed. For the Comoros, there's a link to a Kosovar source, but that doesn't say anything about revocation that I can see. For Dominica, the letter only says they'll review their decision of recognition, apparently summarized by someone from the Serbian ministry writing on Caricom letterhead. For PNG, there's an interview in Sputnik that doesn't say anything clearly, and a photo of a letter to the Serbian PM with no name or signature. Okay, maybe just sloppy reporting, but hardly solid. For Grenada and Madagascar, we only have the Serbian PM's word for it. There's a Malagasy source, but only reporting what the PM said. For Palau, an anonymous tip said that the mystery country the Serbian PM referred to was Palau. Not confirmed.

So, of the ten countries on the list, we only have what looks like confirmation for 3 (Suriname, Burundi, Solomons). Perhaps Comoros too if the Kosovar source can be recovered, assuming the problem is just a dead link and lack of archiving. Then it looks like there might be confirmation out there for 2 more (Lesotho, PNG). The rest are unconfirmed. I don't Kosovo if is right that Serbian sources cannot be trusted (we're well past the days where Belgrade acted like Moscow), but at this point it still seems to be he-said-she-said for half the claimed countries.

If we had a RS that the Serbian PM/ministry were credible in their claims, and that Kosovo was the one spreading falsehood, then that would be acceptable. Of course, it could be that some countries contacted Belgrade and didn't bother to inform Pristina. — kwami (talk) 03:30, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if any of these countries ever did anything concrete, like setting up an embassy or sending an ambassador. If all it even was was a letter to Pristina or a news announcement, then recognition could be easily reversed and it would be hard to demonstrate either way -- especially since letters and announcements can be disavowed by other parties in the govt of the recognizing country. That would apply to the recognizing list as well, though I assume any that Serbia has challenged are in this list of ten. — ::::: kwami (talk) 03:46, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have observed that – except for Suriname – nearly no major Western media outlet has reported about those cases. I don't know why. I think we should leave it like it is now in the article. Except for the map – that needs to be updated. I hardly doubt that there were real diplomatic relations established. There are 21 embassies in Pristina and 26 ambassadors in other countries are accredited there (sehe List of diplomatic missions in Kosovo). Besides that all recognitions are more or less letters that are exchanged on some levels – that's it. This way it is very easy for countries like Libera or Guinea-Bissau to change their recognition status from day to day. Maybe the map should have three colors (recognized, once recognized and never recognized). — Derim Hunt (Derim Hunt) 11:25, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, but why do you think Kosovo claimed some of this was 'fake news'? Sour grapes, were they not informed, or was that triggered by a false report or different ministers of a country telling Belgrade and Pristina different things? — kwami (talk) 10:43, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Since there are renunciations of recognition, there were always counter-actions by the partially recognized states. Abkhazia and South Ossetia for example "do not recognize" the de-recognition of several Pacific islands. The Kosovo Albanians act differently – but not totally different.— (Derim Hunt) 14:25, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm sorry, when I see two space characters after another or a dot, an unnecessary space character and then the beginning ref-Tag than I change it immediately. I should better mark those changes, my fault. -- Derim Hunt (talk) 11:07, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. I probably shouldn't have templated you, but there were a lot of edit warriors editing without leaving leaving an edit summary, which has other editors go through history to check it all. Anyway, thank you for the useful contributions and making Wikipedia better. --Pilaz (talk) 13:32, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you very much. — Derim Hunt (Derim Hunt) 09:05, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Activity relating to Donetsk and Luhansk republics

I have noticed that you have played a significant role in writing about the Donetsk and Luhansk republics on Wikipedia, especially with regard to their diplomatic activities. I would advise you to be cautious around adding new information to these articles. For example, you talked about a "Donetsk Embassy in Finland" (not that exact wording, but similar), but no such embassy actually exists. The embassy was essentially a hoax. Content that is fake should not be added to Wikipedia intentionally. I will let you off the hook if it was accidental, but repeat offences may warrant further attention. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 14:00, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I never wrote about any DNR or LNR embassies, because so far there aren't any. I've written about several DNR and LNR Representative Offices in several countries – in each and every occasion with a source attached to it in the article International representation of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic. If you would have had any sources about the non-existence of any of those offices, you could have added those information. But I've seen that the article International representation of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic was deleted due to your destructive behavior. Thanks – not! Derim Hunt (talk) 14:10, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If they aren't supposed to be embassies, then you need to specify clearly that this is what you are describing. Because, in the way that they were being presented, they were indistinguishable from embassies. Furthermore, if they aren't really embassies, then that also means that they aren't really notable enough to be written about unless specified otherwise. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 15:24, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, as a reference point... The Republic of China, also known as Taiwan, also operates offices known as "representative offices", which are supposed to behave as embassies in all but name. Indeed, these are actually what I would consider "quasi-embassies" because they are recognised by the host country (i.e. the country that is having relations with Taiwan) in their limited capacity.

On the other hand, the so-called "representative offices" of the Donetsk and Luhansk PRs are generally NOT recognised by the host country. For example, Finland and Czechia do not recognise the pseudo-embassies, which makes them significantly less legitimate than the similarly-named Taiwanese representative offices that I've described above. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 15:29, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia article was not about what you think those representative offices are (apparently you have no clue when it comes to International relations). Everything within this article had a source and you could have added furthers sources. You could – at least – have the decency, and include all those sourced informations in the other article. Derim Hunt (talk) 15:47, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A representative office is generally considered to be a form of lower-tier embassy. This means that it's supposed to have at least some veneer of legitimacy, or to be legitimate in all but name. That's what I understand it to be. If you have a different understanding, then please elaborate.

The so-called DLPR representative offices do physically exist (and administratively, according to the DLPR). However, I stress that these offices are (as far as I can tell) NOT recognised as legitimate by the states in which they are located. In other words, most of these representative offices have been created in co-operation with fringe or extremist groups located inside the host country. E.g. far right groups, socialist revolutionaries, etc. These people are absolutely not representatives of the governments of their countries. The representative offices are NOT diplomatic or even resembling diplomatic in nature. They are located on private property and they have no status under the laws of their respective countries (apart from being illegal). Jargo Nautilus (talk) 16:08, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So, you have proven that you don't know, what the article was about. That's great! Will you now please help undo the damage you have done? For starters, I would recommend you the following articles:

Thomas Frear: The foreign policy options of a small unrecognised state: the case of Abkhazia, in: Caucasus Survey, Vol. 1 (2014), No. 2, pp. 83–107, DOI: 10.1080/23761199.2014.11417293.

Ramesh Ganohariti/Ernst Dijxhoorn: Para- and Proto-Sports Diplomacy of Contested Territories: CONIFA as a Platform for Football Diplomacy, in: The Hague Journal of Diplomacy (not yet published). Derim Hunt (talk) 08:45, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This proves nothing. I'm not going to read some fringe nonsense that you are linking to me here. Please tell me exactly what about my analysis was wrong? Even you yourself have admitted that the Turin office is not recognised by the Italian authorities, which means you are agreeing to what I've told you. Now, I remind you that PERSONAL ATTACKS are unnecessary and also may warrant further investigation into your case. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 13:24, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I provide links to scientific articles and you call them "fringe nonsense"? The discussion is over. Derim Hunt (talk) 13:57, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Scientific" hahaha. We are not talking about physics or chemistry here, mate. The entire world of politics is mafia. Nothing scientific about it in the slightest. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 14:12, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I wasn't actually the one who deleted the article. Someone else deleted it, and they neglected to transfer any of the remaining information in the article. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 16:11, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, you have stripped it of all relevant information and then someone else deleted it. You can consider yourself a hero in this matter! Derim Hunt (talk) 08:45, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've stripped it of all of the FRINGE information which was misleading and inaccurate. I did, however, leave behind any information that I deemed was not completely irrelevant, primarily including the representative offices in countries that have official relations with the DPR and LPR, such as Russia. However, subsequently, a different editor deleted the entire article altogether on the charge of "POVFORKING". I'm not going to agree or disagree to that sentiment. I lean towards it, but it wasn't actually my main reason for suggesting that the article be deleted. I suggested that the article be deleted because it was too short and irrelevant. The information about representative offices in Russia and South Ossetia could have easily been streamlined into the main "foreign relations (international representation)" article. Furthermore, the information about representative offices in other countries was unreliable and misleading, so it should have been deleted forever. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 13:27, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

mzajac - Your assistance may be needed here. In short, I removed a lot of FRINGE information relating to the foreign relations of the DPR and LPR. This ended up turning an already stub article into a "super stub". Another editor came along and deleted the entire article, and now the original creator of the article is trying to re-insert bits and pieces of this FRINGE information into other articles. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 13:29, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I will deal with the Russian activist later. Time is on my side. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 13:47, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't know why you keep doing this, but you should not be making empty edits to articles wherein you just add or subtract a space. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 13:53, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Marking major edits as "minor"

I forgot to mention this, although I did mention it in an edit summary at one of the articles you've been editing. Please stop marking major edits as minor! Only a few types of edits can be marked as minor, and this includes formatting, typos, grammar, and perhaps fixing citations. Anything that is related to content should be considered major. Adding hyperlinks is usually a major edit, except under certain circumstances, I would say. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 13:55, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Double spacing

Just to note you don't need to bother removing double spacing at the start of sentences like this, per MOS:DOUBLESPACE it makes no difference to what is shown to the reader - Dumelow (talk) 09:08, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]