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Your submission at Articles for creation: Monolayer-protected cluster molecules has been accepted

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Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:05, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

The article contains a statement of purpose, which I have commented out. The reason is that Wikipedia is supposed to be educational, rather than a database of all information, and it should be based on published information. However there is significant overlap in purpose, so I have included the page as an article. For compilations of information, Wikidata is more suitable. And for original research, Wikiversity is more the venue, but of course these do not have the fame and reach of Wikipedia. I am also concerned that a researcher in this area will not know how to edit Wikipedia and not even want to add their discovery. However you are welcome to maintain the list.

More suggestions: combine the reference and doi into a single column using the cite journal template. This will make the references more maintainable and useful for automatic tools. Also I suggest that you add some more columns to the table, to name the ligands (as a formula can be ambiguous), and give more info on the structure, eg shape of the cluster, crystal class, space group, unit cell info. If you actually work in the area some photos and diagrams in the lead section would be good. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:22, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and merged columns with most converted to templated forms. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the improving suggestions. This is something, which could definitely add the educational value of the page.

In the current page the tittle is not something that we are not very pleased.There are already existing pages for "Nanocluster" and "Thiolate-protected gold cluster" making the current tittle "Monolayer-protected cluster molecules" somewhat overlapping and ambiguous. We would like the tittle to contain the mentioning about the crystal structures, because they are the main focus. Why the tittle was changed? Can it be modified to suit more the contents of the page? Iridium27 (talk) 05:43, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

@Graeme Bartlett Sorry for spamming. I was not sure if you get the message without using tagging. I have also mentioned the issue above in Help desk page Wikipedia:Help desk#The tittle of the "Monolayer-protected cluster molecules" page Iridium27 (talk) 13:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Also note that the licence you use on ChemRxiv is not the same as here as there you have a -NC, (non commercial use), but here commercial use is allowed. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:28, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the notion. This should not be an issue, because ChemRxiv manuscript is supposed to work as an initialization and a source for scientific citation. Wikipedia page and the manuscript are still living as a separate beings. In the end, both are just a collections of citations and commercial/non-commercial use is more related to the actual research done in the paper that are being cited here. Iridium27 (talk) 05:33, 27 May 2024 (UTC)