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Transition to new order

As always I appreciate your efforts on articles about Indonesian history, and sorry I never got around to contributing to your Indonesian nationalism article! By the way I reverted your recent edit about the New Order because I think it actually would be useful to link to the Transition to the New Order article. It's part of the "story" of its development as a concept or regime. --Dan Carkner (talk) 14:40, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

nah, it's okay Mhatopzz (talk) 14:41, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

But thanks for reminding me anyway, I was just reverted my own edit on Guided democracy Mhatopzz (talk) 14:43, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Republic of Indonesia in the National Revolution

Hi @Mhatopzz: Please give me a shout when it is finished. Submit it and I will promote it to mainspace. It is much better. scope_creep^Talk 11:33, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thank you for waiting. I will finish it ASAP. Mhatopzz (talk) 13:41, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Yes, just delete it already Mhatopzz (talk) 11:22, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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@Herpetogenesis: Thank you! Mhatopzz (talk) 07:58, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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you have an article that is neither here or there

User:Mhatopzz/Revolutionary Government of the Republic of Indonesia

The article is in effect not in main space or in user space - you have categories in action at the base of the article - if it is really still in user space the categories need to be suppressed until it is in main space - however if you want it in main space you need to remove your user name from the title... please make up your mind! JarrahTree 15:55, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I'm so sorry, it must be a mistake, I was planning to rewrite the article. Mhatopzz (talk) 16:00, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Never apologise - just get the categories undone (using 'nowiki tagging) and take care - if it is a draft - find a tag to put at the top of the page to make it very clear you are still working on it... JarrahTree 16:04, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, don't tag it as a draft, I might not constantly working on it, and may leave it when I'm bored with it, it was just planned, not an ambitious project Mhatopzz (talk) 16:10, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Proclamation of Indonesian Independence

Hi. I saw you added the time for the Proclamation of Indonesian Independence on the page, but I think this needs a source. There is some uncertainty about the time because in 1945, Jakarta was on Japanese time. I'll see if I can find a reference, but do you have one? Regards Davidelit (Talk) 06:41, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I'm sorry, I thought it was necessary to put a time date on the infobox because I saw it in the lead article, If you feel doubtful about it, you may revert the edit. Thanks Mhatopzz (talk) 09:04, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. I missed the (cited!) mention of the time in the lead. My bad. I didn't revert it because of the large number of good edits you have made in the Indonesian project, and I wasn't 100% sure. Apologies. Davidelit (Talk) 11:10, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I found a source and edited the article. The proclamation was at 10am, but Japan Standard time (GMT + 9), which the Japanese imposed on 27 March 1942. This means that the annual reading of the proclamation should really happen at 8am WIB, but I guess it would be difficult to persuade all the guests to get up that early :-). Regards Davidelit (Talk) 04:40, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "Dwinug". The reason given for Dwinug's block is: "Persistent addition of unsourced content". Note: My account have nothing related to this @[[User:Dwinug|Dwinug]] user, but apparently @[[User:GiantSnowman|GiantSnowman]] blocked me due to what appears to be that my IP Address was used by Dwinug. I don't think it is necessary to explain further, I'd assume we all can understand what's the problem here, so please lift my autoblock quickly so I don't have to wait for 3 hours to be unblocked automatically. Mhatopzz (talk) 15:13, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Decline reason: Procedural decline - the autoblock appears to have expired as you appear to be editing again. However if any further autoblocks occur you will need to provide more details about the connection with Dwinug's account, as per Yamla's comment below. Note that I am not a checkuser so cannot view the technical evidence. — Voice of Clam 14:53, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree, I believe you do need to address the relationship between the two accounts, as the technical evidence shows it is closer than just pure coincidence. --Yamla (talk) 16:20, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, in this case, I truly don't know if I had any knowledge about the relationship of mine and his account, we have never shared any IPs, You should probably ask him instead. Mhatopzz (talk) 06:16, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ternate infobox

Hello, I apologize first if me contacting immediatly sounds rude but may I ask about why did you change the Ternate infobox to island's one? I agree that it is both an island and a city, but the city is clearly the primary topic and that replacement from city infobox to island infobox removed some necessary elements like the city's coat of arms, HDI, etc and arguably the city one look more aesthetically pleasing. May I revert it back to the city one? Thank you very much Nyanardsan (talk) 11:44, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Because the article itself is centered on the fact that ternate is indeed a city and an island, but the city infobox hold less information than the island infobox. Mhatopzz (talk) 11:48, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I disagree, the aritcle is mostly explaining Ternate as a city, and current coverage of Ternate mostly refers to itself as a city. I think both infoboxes should present as compromise, or if possible we split the article between Ternate (city) and Ternate (island). Also I am in favour of standarizing all regencies and cities article formatting (which has been quite bad), so the city infobox I think is necessary for a city article. Otherwise there is no place to put the city-centered informations such as its coat of arms Nyanardsan (talk) 12:00, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Oh. You self reverted. Admirable. Let’s talk again soon. I’m busy for a few days. Kind regards -—Merbabu (talk) 08:51, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Some people take them very seriously, and have real issues when there is no explanation of why you did a particular edit, and I am no good example as i regularly just use the word add for a range of changes. However when replacing images on Indonesian articles, it really helps if you can explain, simply why something replaces another. Thanks.

I had considered a very lengthy explanation as to choice of images about Imogiri on my talk page, but have decided against it. Sorry, I cannot explain here. JarrahTree 04:55, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh sorry for your inconveniences, but sometimes, whenever I replace pictures, I did it just to place the most recent picture or add a higher resolution picture with no intention to revome some of the information. I only put explanation whenever I consider the edit I made would make a significant difference than the previous one or whenever I found a vandalized article. Mhatopzz (talk) 05:17, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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- but for the imogiri context, that is too complicated for a simple explanation here - for a range of reasons I would always put an older photo, but no big deal... JarrahTree 10:18, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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