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December 4

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Category:Centrolepidaceae

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:37, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to APG IV Freely accessible, Centrolepidaceae is now included in Restionaceae. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:29, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Causinae

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:37, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The category was apparently depopulated a while ago, leaving only the eponymous redirect Causinae. According to Open Tree of Life and A nesting of vipers: Phylogeny and historical biogeography of the Viperidae (Squamata: Serpentes) Freely accessible, and as described at Causus § Taxonomy, Causus is now placed within Viperinae, making Causinae a junior subjective synonym of Viperinae. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:22, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Oriental Orthodox congregations established in the 4th century

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:37, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, anachronistic category, the Oriental Orthodox Churches did not exist yet in the 4th century. The three articles are already in Category:Christian monasteries established in the 4th century, there is no need to merge somewhere. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:54, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kingsmasher678 (talk) 19:25, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Trees of the Netherlands

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 11#Category:Trees of the Netherlands

Category:Trees of the Eastern United States

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 13#Category:Trees of the Eastern United States

Category:File-Class articles

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:File-Class pages. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:39, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: For the same reason FM-Class articles was renamed to FM-Class pages here, in which also suggested this name. This nomination includes all sub-pages. Gonnym (talk) 17:33, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People by paranormal abilities

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:People by claimed paranormal ability. Thank you to all participants for a very civil discussion and working towards compromise :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:00, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The current title of this category suggests the abilities are real. Given that these abilities have never been scientifically proven, it should specify they are alleged. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 08:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Bushranger's point?
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  • Comment The people claiming paranormal abilities have the burden to prove they possess them in a scientific lab setting. If they cannot, then I don't believe saying "purported" or "claimed" is POV. If there was even a smidgen of scientific confirmation, then perhaps it would be. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 16:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Zxcvbnm's comment?
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I think Pppery's proposal is the best so far. PrinceTortoise (he/himpokeinspect) 07:55, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Administrator election

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The result of the discussion was: rename to successful/unsuccessful administrator election candidates. (non-admin closure) Compassionate727 (T·C) 13:02, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: or "administrator election candidacies"? charlotte 👸♥ 17:17, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Hunting in video games

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The result of the discussion was: purge of article contents and merge the subcategories to Category:Hunting video games. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:36, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This seems to have missed the broad renaming of similar categories. It should be renamed to be more defining than it is now. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 16:07, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Stinkers Bad Movie Award winning films

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:03, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAWARD --woodensuperman 12:32, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Dual screen phone

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 13#Category:Dual screen phone

Category:Jon Bon Jovi

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:29, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON. The "Works by" tree is sufficient here. --woodensuperman 11:10, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lenny Kravitz

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON. The "Works by" tree is sufficient here. --woodensuperman 11:05, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from Glyndon, Minnesota

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:33, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Defense

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Seems to be WP:SHAREDNAME, defense itself is a disambiguation page and not an article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 10:02, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Infrastructure and Transport infrastructure 1400-1700

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Compassionate727 (T·C) 12:47, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, until 1700 the tree consists largely of single-article categories, this is unhelpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:04, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Marvel Comics film characters

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The result of the discussion was: purge. No consensus to convert to a container category. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:07, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category's description is for "Film characters based on Marvel Comics", although in recent months, it has become populated by an absurd amount of articles for the comic characters themselves, with many of those being for characters only RECENTLY being featured in some mass media. This cat has primarily operated as a holding for the three current subcats which are actually for film adaptations of these characters. This cat is repeatedly readded to articles on the comics versions and I am requesting full deletion as the current subcats handle all relevant media adaptations in film, or, if that does not pass, then I would request this cat to be purged and converted into a formal holding cat. Trailblazer101 (talk) 07:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's comment: I would also like to note that the creator of this cat, User:Dietic, has a history of making similar categories as this one for Marvel adaptation characters that were overcategorized on the comics articles and were subsequently deleted in the past few years, many of which may be viewed via their talk page. Trailblazer101 (talk) 07:14, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Clear consensus for a change; should it be purged or deleted?
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Purge: Agree that the cat should be limited to articles about the characters from the films specifically, but that that's a perfectly fine scope to maintain and the category retains value so long as that scope is maintained. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 07:31, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The description is more specific than its title, so just change the description or the title? Tag the users populating it. --MikutoH talk! 03:27, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also containerize?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same as HouseBlaster above.
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Comment I already expressed support for deletion above. We already have Category:Marvel Cinematic Universe characters and this duplicates that with a more confusing name. Jontesta (talk) 13:32, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Armories (military)

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:49, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: See WP:OVERLAPCAT. They share the same article overall, with only naming differences. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 00:51, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Cetacean attacks

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:50, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories each. This is follow-up on this earlier discussion, @Zxcvbnm and Jontesta: pinging contributors to that discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:06, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Caves of Madeira

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:05, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not a large enough cat to improve navigation. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 04:41, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Ambassadors of Iraq to Morocco

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:04, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category, upmerge for now. SMasonGarrison 03:49, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:AEW aircraft

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 10:27, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These are a subset of Airborne Early Warning and Control System (AWACS) aircraft, mostly early (but not all), and there is siginifcant overlap. The WP:COMMONNAME for this type of aircraft is 'AWACS'. The Bushranger One ping only 23:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The basic claim here is untrue. AWACS aircraft are a subset of AEW aircraft, not the other way around. Only the latest generations (from the '60s onwards, maybe the Lockheed EC-121 Warning Star as the first) and the largest aircraft also had an AWACS capability. The earlier ones, and still the smaller ones, or the tactical theatre aircraft were limited to AEW only.
We could merge all to AEW. That would be valid and correct. However I would oppose the merge in either direction, as the two types are distinct, defining and more useful when kept separate. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:34, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Doing the same merge, but to a worse name, is hardly any better.
The point here is that there are two categories, because AEW aircraft didn't carry the extra capability of being AWACS aircraft. So they don't belong in any category implying that they do. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:40, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Then Category:AEW aircraft needs to be scanned, because there's several types in there that I'm pretty sure I recognize as AWACS. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Such as? Firstly that's an irrelevance for this question (whatever changes to membership are needed, then just change them). Secondly that's a vague handwave, unless you can cite which are the issue. Thirdly, thinking that Nimrod AEW3 was an AWACS aircraft was one of the most expensive mistakes of the British aircraft industry! Andy Dingley (talk) 12:30, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:AWACS aircraft, but there is no current consensus to do anything in particular. Additional comments are welcome!
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Category:Zimbabwe radio station stubs

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:49, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category. As always, stub categories are not free for just any user to create on a whim for any random topic -- the minimum size requirement for a stub category is 60 articles, and much short of that a stub template should just upfile pages into a parent category. But there are only 16 articles here, with no prospect of finding 44 more as the parent Category:Radio stations in Zimbabwe only has three pages in it that aren't duplicated here.
The template is fine, as it can upfile pages in the parents, but we would need to have a lot more articles about radio stations in Zimbabwe than we've got before a dedicated stub category was justifiable. Bearcat (talk) 02:45, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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