Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 4
December 4
[edit]Category:Centrolepidaceae
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:37, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Centrolepidaceae to Category:Restionaceae
- Nominator's rationale: According to APG IV , Centrolepidaceae is now included in Restionaceae. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:29, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Causinae
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:37, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Causinae to Category:Viperinae
- Nominator's rationale: The category was apparently depopulated a while ago, leaving only the eponymous redirect Causinae. According to Open Tree of Life and A nesting of vipers: Phylogeny and historical biogeography of the Viperidae (Squamata: Serpentes) , and as described at Causus § Taxonomy, Causus is now placed within Viperinae, making Causinae a junior subjective synonym of Viperinae. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:22, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Oriental Orthodox congregations established in the 4th century
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:37, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, anachronistic category, the Oriental Orthodox Churches did not exist yet in the 4th century. The three articles are already in Category:Christian monasteries established in the 4th century, there is no need to merge somewhere. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:54, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Trees of the Netherlands
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 11#Category:Trees of the Netherlands
Category:Trees of the Eastern United States
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 13#Category:Trees of the Eastern United States
Category:File-Class articles
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:File-Class pages. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:39, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:File-Class articles to Category:File-Class pages
- Nominator's rationale: For the same reason FM-Class articles was renamed to FM-Class pages here, in which also suggested this name. This nomination includes all sub-pages. Gonnym (talk) 17:33, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:People by paranormal abilities
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:People by claimed paranormal ability. Thank you to all participants for a very civil discussion and working towards compromise :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:00, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: The current title of this category suggests the abilities are real. Given that these abilities have never been scientifically proven, it should specify they are alleged. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 08:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. It's better but the problem with both the above categories is that they appear to be intended to refer to claimants only but are not descriptive enough and could also include Category:Paranormal investigators and Category:People associated with the paranormal. What about Category:People claiming paranormal ability or Category:Paranormal ability claimants? 5Q5|✉ 13:14, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'd be fine with those too... anything besides the current one. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:26, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. It's better but the problem with both the above categories is that they appear to be intended to refer to claimants only but are not descriptive enough and could also include Category:Paranormal investigators and Category:People associated with the paranormal. What about Category:People claiming paranormal ability or Category:Paranormal ability claimants? 5Q5|✉ 13:14, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose. While it is, indeed, not scientifically proven, it doesn't change the fact that "purported" is POV language, just in the other way. The simplest name is the one it's at. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:30, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Bushranger's point?
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- Comment The people claiming paranormal abilities have the burden to prove they possess them in a scientific lab setting. If they cannot, then I don't believe saying "purported" or "claimed" is POV. If there was even a smidgen of scientific confirmation, then perhaps it would be. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Zxcvbnm's comment?
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- Support a rename to Category:People claiming paranormal ability. "Purported" is non-neutral because it typically implies that the claims are false. On the other hand, the current wording implies that the claims are true. "Claiming" feels like a relatively neutral compromise. PrinceTortoise (he/him • poke • inspect) 06:28, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Changing to Support
Category:People claiming paranormal abilityCategory:People by claimed paranormal ability. - The Bushranger One ping only 08:44, 5 December 2024 (UTC) - Category:People by claimed paranormal ability? We need to keep the fact that it's a container in the name. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:33, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think Pppery's proposal is the best so far. PrinceTortoise (he/him • poke • inspect) 07:55, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- "by" should certainly be kept. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:32, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
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Administrator election
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to successful/unsuccessful administrator election candidates. (non-admin closure) —Compassionate727 (T·C) 13:02, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Successful administrator election (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Successful administrator elections
- Propose renaming Category:Unsuccessful administrator election (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Unsuccessful administrator elections
- Nominator's rationale: or "administrator election candidacies"? charlotte 👸♥ 17:17, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- My consideration for the singular was that for the individual pages for each candidate, it's about their individual election, they are not necessarily associated with the other ones (other than happening at the same time). Just as the top of the archiving of the candidacy page says
The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a successful administrator election candidacy
(singular). But I don't feel strongly about it, so I'm fine with the plural if people prefer it. Raladic (talk) 17:28, 4 December 2024 (UTC)- Comment: the parent is Category:Wikipedia administrator elections, so these should be Category:Successful Wikipedia administrator elections, etc. Gonnym (talk) 00:34, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Successful Wikipedia administrator election candidates/Category:Unsuccessful Wikipedia administrator election candidates. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:34, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Successful Wikipedia administrator election candidates/Category:Unsuccessful Wikipedia administrator election candidates, as suggested by Pppery. Flows best (imo). HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:02, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Hunting in video games
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- The result of the discussion was: purge of article contents and merge the subcategories to Category:Hunting video games. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:36, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Hunting in video games to Category:Video games about hunting
- Nominator's rationale: This seems to have missed the broad renaming of similar categories. It should be renamed to be more defining than it is now. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:07, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per WP:C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:37, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Purge of article contents and Merge the subcategories to Category:Hunting video games. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- I can agree with that too. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:30, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Zxcvbnm, thoughts? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:03, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- I can also be fine with that... ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:07, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Zxcvbnm, thoughts? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:03, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- I can agree with that too. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:30, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Stinkers Bad Movie Award winning films
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:03, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAWARD --woodensuperman 12:32, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:39, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator. Not a defining characteristic of the categorized films. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 17:42, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: A recent discussion about this cat was closed as no consensus less than three months ago: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 7#Category:Stinkers Bad Movie Award winning films). Felida97 (talk) 12:57, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison, Gonnym, Vinnylospo, Marcocapelle, Omnis Scientia, and RevelationDirect: Courtesy ping to all participants of this discussion. (Marcocapelle has already voted in the current discussion, see above.) Felida97 (talk) 13:04, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:06, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. thanks for the ping SMasonGarrison 13:48, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Thanks for the ping. As I've previously stated, since the award is notable, Stinkers Bad Movie Awards and since we add award winners to related categories, this category is valid. You could dislike the award, but any deletion is pure WP:CENSOR. Gonnym (talk) 15:17, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- It's nothing to do with censorship. The award might be notable, but winning it is not WP:DEFINING for the film. The argument can be made that when a film is widely described as, say, an "Oscar-winning film" it is defining, but that is a million miles away from what we are categorising by here. --woodensuperman 15:22, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- For example, each one of the Category:American film critics associations gives an award to what they think is the best film each year. Whilst the lists of these awards are themselves notable, it would also not be appropriate to consider inclusion in the list a defining characteristic for the films or to create categories for each and every award we have an article for. --woodensuperman 15:32, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I think the different standards for articles vs categories is being lost here: Yes, the award is WP:NOTABLE so it merits an article that can list the films. No, the category is not WP:DEFINING, and is unlikely to aid reader navigation. (Not every article automatically gets a category.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:25, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Dual screen phone
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 13#Category:Dual screen phone
Category:Jon Bon Jovi
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:29, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON. The "Works by" tree is sufficient here. --woodensuperman 11:10, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and the articles are already interlinked directly. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:46, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Lenny Kravitz
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON. The "Works by" tree is sufficient here. --woodensuperman 11:05, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:47, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:People from Glyndon, Minnesota
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:33, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:48, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Defense
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Seems to be WP:SHAREDNAME, defense itself is a disambiguation page and not an article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:02, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, this is a hodgepodge of rather unrelated subcategories and articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:52, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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Infrastructure and Transport infrastructure 1400-1700
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) —Compassionate727 (T·C) 12:47, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in 1402 (1 C) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1402 and Category:Infrastructure completed in the 1400s
- Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in 1407 (1 C) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1407 and Category:Infrastructure completed in the 1400s
- Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in 1408 (1 C) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1408 and Category:Infrastructure completed in the 1400s
- Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in 1422 (1 C) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1422 and Category:Infrastructure completed in the 1420s
- Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in 1425 (1 C) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1425 and Category:Infrastructure completed in the 1420s
- Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in 1428 (1 C) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1428 and Category:Infrastructure completed in the 1420s
- Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in 1430 (1 C) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1430 and Category:Infrastructure completed in the 1430s
- Propose merging Category:Infrastructure completed in 1442 (1 C) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1442 and Category:Infrastructure completed in the 1440s
- COMPLETE LIST until 1700 see talk page
- Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in 1402 (1 P) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1402 and Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 1400s
- Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in 1407 (1 P) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1407 and Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 1400s
- Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in 1408 (1 P) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1408 and Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 1400s
- Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in 1422 (2 P) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1422 and Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 1420s
- Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in 1425 (3 P) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1425 and Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 1420s
- Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in 1428 (1 P) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1428 and Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 1420s
- Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in 1430 (1 P) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1430 and Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 1430s
- Propose merging Category:Transport infrastructure completed in 1442 (1 P) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1442 and Category:Transport infrastructure completed in the 1440s
- COMPLETE LIST until 1700 see talk page
- Nominator's rationale: merge, until 1700 the tree consists largely of single-article categories, this is unhelpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:04, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Marvel Comics film characters
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: purge. No consensus to convert to a container category. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:07, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: This category's description is for "Film characters based on Marvel Comics", although in recent months, it has become populated by an absurd amount of articles for the comic characters themselves, with many of those being for characters only RECENTLY being featured in some mass media. This cat has primarily operated as a holding for the three current subcats which are actually for film adaptations of these characters. This cat is repeatedly readded to articles on the comics versions and I am requesting full deletion as the current subcats handle all relevant media adaptations in film, or, if that does not pass, then I would request this cat to be purged and converted into a formal holding cat. Trailblazer101 (talk) 07:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's comment: I would also like to note that the creator of this cat, User:Dietic, has a history of making similar categories as this one for Marvel adaptation characters that were overcategorized on the comics articles and were subsequently deleted in the past few years, many of which may be viewed via their talk page. Trailblazer101 (talk) 07:14, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This is redundant and risks over categorization. Jontesta (talk) 14:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Purge all non-film characters. The category as it currently exists is not functional but this could work. (Oinkers42) (talk) 15:31, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Clear consensus for a change; should it be purged or deleted?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:43, 18 November 2024 (UTC)- Purge: Agree that the cat should be limited to articles about the characters from the films specifically, but that that's a perfectly fine scope to maintain and the category retains value so long as that scope is maintained. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 07:31, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- The description is more specific than its title, so just change the description or the title? Tag the users populating it. --MikutoH talk! 03:27, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Purge and convert to container category. I looked at some of the members and thought it would be weird for Ant-Man not to be in the hierarchy, but then found the article Scott Lang (Marvel Cinematic Universe) which does the job for that character. Many other members have only made cameo or minor appearances in MCU, and should not be categorised here. I would not object to a category for MCU character redirects. – Fayenatic London 21:21, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Marvel Cinematic Universe characters already exists and gets the job done, so for many of those articles, this is just adding another category with a similar scope, especially when the MCU characters cat is a subcat of this film characters cat. Trailblazer101 (talk) 17:16, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also containerize?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:44, 27 November 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same as HouseBlaster above.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kingsmasher678 (talk) 06:30, 4 December 2024 (UTC)- Comment I already expressed support for deletion above. We already have Category:Marvel Cinematic Universe characters and this duplicates that with a more confusing name. Jontesta (talk) 13:32, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Armories (military)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:49, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Armories (military) to Category:Arsenals
- Nominator's rationale: See WP:OVERLAPCAT. They share the same article overall, with only naming differences. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:51, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Cetacean attacks
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:50, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Cetacean attacks to Category:Animal attacks
- Propose merging Category:Bovinae attacks to Category:Animal attacks
- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories each. This is follow-up on this earlier discussion, @Zxcvbnm and Jontesta: pinging contributors to that discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:06, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge both as redundant, per nom. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:57, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Caves of Madeira
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- The result of the discussion was: dual merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:05, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Caves of Madeira to Category:Caves of Portugal
- Nominator's rationale: Not a large enough cat to improve navigation. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 04:41, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge, also to Category:Landforms of Madeira. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:21, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Ambassadors of Iraq to Morocco
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:04, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose splitting Category:Ambassadors of Iraq to Morocco to Category:Ambassadors of Iraq and Category:Ambassadors to Morocco
- Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category, upmerge for now. SMasonGarrison 03:49, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge per nom. Many sibling categories in the Iraqi tree may follow. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:14, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:AEW aircraft
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- The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 10:27, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:AEW aircraft to Category:AWACS aircraft
- Nominator's rationale: These are a subset of Airborne Early Warning and Control System (AWACS) aircraft, mostly early (but not all), and there is siginifcant overlap. The WP:COMMONNAME for this type of aircraft is 'AWACS'. The Bushranger One ping only 23:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose The basic claim here is untrue. AWACS aircraft are a subset of AEW aircraft, not the other way around. Only the latest generations (from the '60s onwards, maybe the Lockheed EC-121 Warning Star as the first) and the largest aircraft also had an AWACS capability. The earlier ones, and still the smaller ones, or the tactical theatre aircraft were limited to AEW only.
- We could merge all to AEW. That would be valid and correct. However I would oppose the merge in either direction, as the two types are distinct, defining and more useful when kept separate. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:34, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Some of the aircraft categorised here are definitely AWACS types, hence my musing. But I had also connsidered proposing renaming the target to Category:Airborne early warning and control aircraft, per the "main article" that Airborne Early Warning and Control, Airborne Early Warning, and Airborne Early Warning & Control all redirect to, with a merge possibly accordingly as well. Thoughts on that? - The Bushranger One ping only 00:52, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Doing the same merge, but to a worse name, is hardly any better.
- The point here is that there are two categories, because AEW aircraft didn't carry the extra capability of being AWACS aircraft. So they don't belong in any category implying that they do. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:40, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Then Category:AEW aircraft needs to be scanned, because there's several types in there that I'm pretty sure I recognize as AWACS. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Such as? Firstly that's an irrelevance for this question (whatever changes to membership are needed, then just change them). Secondly that's a vague handwave, unless you can cite which are the issue. Thirdly, thinking that Nimrod AEW3 was an AWACS aircraft was one of the most expensive mistakes of the British aircraft industry! Andy Dingley (talk) 12:30, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Then Category:AEW aircraft needs to be scanned, because there's several types in there that I'm pretty sure I recognize as AWACS. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:AWACS aircraft, but there is no current consensus to do anything in particular. Additional comments are welcome!
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:35, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- You can consider this one withdrawn. @HouseBlaster:. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:16, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Zimbabwe radio station stubs
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:49, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Zimbabwe radio station stubs to Category:African radio station stubs and Category:Zimbabwe stubs
- Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category. As always, stub categories are not free for just any user to create on a whim for any random topic -- the minimum size requirement for a stub category is 60 articles, and much short of that a stub template should just upfile pages into a parent category. But there are only 16 articles here, with no prospect of finding 44 more as the parent Category:Radio stations in Zimbabwe only has three pages in it that aren't duplicated here.
The template is fine, as it can upfile pages in the parents, but we would need to have a lot more articles about radio stations in Zimbabwe than we've got before a dedicated stub category was justifiable. Bearcat (talk) 02:45, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Maybe this was once useful in the past, but not anymore. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:18, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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