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File:Fantasia Bittersweet.ogg

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. ✗plicit 00:52, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sample taken from Bittersweet (Fantasia song) either possibly inadequate or unnecessary to help readers understand the song as a whole. May fail WP:NFCC#8. George Ho (talk) 23:06, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep there is a line in the article that discusses the composition of the very portion of the song used here. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 22:59, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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File:Stjose.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:01, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Another uploader (Myrtleship) claimed a similar file as own work. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 00:53, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:19, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-free Alexander Archipenko images

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The result of the discussion was: Textbook WP:NFCC#8 violation. Also noting that the copyright status of both images is unclear, as described in this excellent analysis by @Clindberg. In summary, important details such as country of origin and true date of publication are not readily available. No prejudice to restoration if anyone can present evidence proving that these files are PD. -FASTILY 07:14, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Two examples of works by Alexander Archipenko being used in a WP:DECORATIVE manner in Alexander Archipenko#Gallery which fails WP:NFCC#1 (WP:FREER), WP:NFCC#8 (WP:NFC#CS) and WP:NFCC#3a (WP:NFG). Both of these files are being used in an image gallery of representative examples of Archipenko's work. There are 21 other examples being used in said gallery and all of those files are freely licensed. Non-free files are pretty much not allowed to used like this in image galleries per NFG, and there's really no real way to justify using 2 non-free files in a image gallery that includes 21 total images. In addition to the files in the image gallery, there are 5 more freely licensed examples of Archipenko's work being used throughout the body of article; so, moving the 2 non-free files to somewhere else in the article doesn't really make since since there's no need for them in addition to other 26 freely licensed examples, and there is no sourced critical commentary about either of the two non-free works anywhere else in the article (they don't even seemed to have been mentioned by name) as required by NFC#CS. The only way I can see for possibly keeping these would be that they don't need to be treated as non-free for some reason and their respective licensing can be converted to a free or PD license; otherwise, there's no justification for their non-free use. For reference, both of these files were uploaded more than ten years ago, and perhaps at that time their non-free use was justified; however, given the number of other files currently being used in the article, it's also hard to justify these per FREER since there a more than a sufficient number of free equivalents being used as representative examples of Archipenko's work. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:16, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep both and fix copyright labels I see no evidence that these works were ever copyrighted. A search of copyright records doesn't yield any results matching these works of art or their collections. Since both predate 1966, {{PD-US-no notice}} would apply. If you have evidence to the contrary, feel free to show me I'm wrong. Buffs (talk) 19:28, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I've asked about the "PD-US-no notice" possibility at c:COM:VPC. If that's the case, then the file showing the litograph probably is OK to relicense as you suggest. The other file, however, might not be so easily resolved since it's a photo of a 3D work of art, and the photos of 3D works of art tend to be eligible for the own copyirght protection separate of the work that's photographed. For that reason alone, it might be impossible to keep the file without the consent of the person who took the photo, and it couldn't be kept as non-free if the work is still on display and can still be photographed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:47, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  I see your point. Buffs (talk) 03:38, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Large ribosomal subunit identification in (1R)-propanol group.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:02, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The entirety of the diagram might be an own work but the darts and dartboard would require a source to determine if they're free for use. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 02:15, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:20, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Large ribosomal subunit identification in 3-glutarimidyl group.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:02, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The entirety of the diagram might be an own work but the darts and dartboard would require a source to determine if they're free for use. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 02:15, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:20, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Large ribosomal subunit identification in cytosine group.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:02, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The entirety of the diagram might be an own work but the darts and dartboard would require a source to determine if they're free for use. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 02:15, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:20, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:DNA gyrase and topoisomerase IV identification in 4-pyridone group.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:02, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The entirety of the diagram might be an own work but the darts and dartboard would require a source to determine if they're free for use. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 02:15, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:20, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Small ribosomal subunit identification in 2,4(or 5)-diaminocyclohexanol group.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:02, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The entirety of the diagram might be an own work but the darts and dartboard would require a source to determine if they're free for use. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 02:15, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:20, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Sterol 14α-demethylase identification in 1,2,4-triazol-1-yl group.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:02, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The entirety of the diagram might be an own work but the darts and dartboard would require a source to determine if they're free for use. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 02:15, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:21, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Sterol 14α-demethylase identification in imidazol-1-yl group.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:02, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The entirety of the diagram might be an own work but the darts and dartboard would require a source to determine if they're free for use. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 02:16, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:21, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Small ribosomal subunit identification in (4aRS,5aRS)-Sancycline group.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:02, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The entirety of the diagram might be an own work but the darts and dartboard would require a source to determine if they're free for use. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 02:16, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:21, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Chinese paddlefish paddle closeup.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus -FASTILY 07:14, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This specific image is not needed, as it doesn't greatly improve the Chinese paddlefish to see a specific images of its organs (which are barely mentioned on this article). Thus, it fails WP:NFCC#8: Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding. We have free images of the fish itself as well Joseph2302 (talk) 14:40, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There are almost no images of the fish itself that are not dry taxidermies, whether fresh or in fluid. It would be essentially impossible to take an equivalent non-free version of this image due to the fish now being extinct. This is a pretty obscure close-up that has little liklihood of commercial significance (as opposed to the images of the full fish lying on the shore, which have been constantly used in news articles for instance). Electroreception likely played a key role in how the fish navigates its world and found prey, so I see it as a highly significant image. Hemiauchenia (talk) 15:03, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for now but more commentary would be useful. @Hemiauchenia:, could you add more information to both the article and the FUR? Buffs (talk) 16:08, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Requesting extra relevant commentary to link the image to paddlefish article content...
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 02:21, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I've contacted the Chinese Academy of Sciences' Institute of Hydrobiology and requested that they release the image under a free license. Fingers crossed. Ixfd64 (talk) 19:43, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I got a returned email saying the address is invalid. I could not find any other email addresses on their website. So I guess we'll have to take it as a "no." Ixfd64 (talk) 22:59, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Larry Emdur.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:03, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Doubtful own work per User talk:Mark818. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 02:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:22, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Billy Thorpe.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:03, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Doubtful own work per User talk:Mark818. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 02:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:22, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Smokey Dawson.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:03, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Doubtful own work per User talk:Mark818. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 02:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:22, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Launch-3 web.gif

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:03, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Small, low res, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 03:06, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:22, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Laura Mvula June 2015.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:03, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FB metadata in file EXIF, doubtful own work. Can be replaced with files at c:Category:Laura Mvula. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 03:24, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as the Commons images do a superior job at illustration in addition to having no questions about sourcing. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 06:34, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Greeks6.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:10, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:MONTAGE, we need the source of each individual image. A higher resolution version of the top-left image could be found on another website. [1] Collage is not used anywhere. Ixfd64 (talk) 04:43, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for having no real purpose, even if the Homer image wasn't a problem. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 06:36, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Event gravitas 2015.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:10, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple cameras, varying sizes. This was claimed as own work but EXIF states "Noel Mathew" as copyright holder. Doubtful own work. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 06:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:23, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Applied engineering graVITas.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:10, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple cameras, varying sizes. This was claimed as own work but EXIF states "Noel Mathew" as copyright holder. Doubtful own work. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 06:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:23, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Guest lecture Gravitas.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:10, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple cameras, varying sizes. This was claimed as own work but EXIF states "Noel Mathew" as copyright holder. Doubtful own work. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 06:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:23, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Informal event gravitas.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:10, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple cameras, varying sizes. This was claimed as own work but EXIF states "Noel Mathew" as copyright holder. Doubtful own work. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 06:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:23, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Robotics gravitas 14.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:10, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple cameras, varying sizes. This was claimed as own work but EXIF states "Noel Mathew" as copyright holder. Doubtful own work. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 06:55, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 08:23, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Marcia goldschmidt.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:10, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Small, low res, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 08:41, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 04:16, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Mark Aanderud.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:10, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader is the person depicted in the photo. Permission needed from photographer (Joan Carles Rueda). --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 09:10, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 04:16, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Martin yorkshire.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:10, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Uploaded for Martin Stuart Brown. No other use. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 09:25, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 04:16, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Martin nE.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:10, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Uploaded for Martin Stuart Brown. No other use. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 09:26, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 04:17, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:One Peachtree Center.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Ixfd64 (talk) 23:02, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Low quality. Superseded by files at c:Category:SunTrust Plaza (Atlanta, Georgia). --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 10:45, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Incredibly low resolution, better alternatives on Commons. ✗plicit 11:55, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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File:A map of Ghandhi Chock at Manasa, MP.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Ixfd64 (talk) 23:03, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Google Mapmaker is not free so this is considered to be a fair use file. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 14:37, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 04:17, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Singapore dollar images

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The result of the discussion was: Delete, significant banknotes below have been consolidated into File:Singapore Portrait Series currency notes.jpg and added to Singapore Portrait Series currency notes -FASTILY 22:17, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No commentary on these specific notes on Singapore dollar, does not comply with WP:NFCC#8. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 22:37, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is Singapore Portrait Series currency notes which the images would do well to increase the understanding of the printed notes. – robertsky (talk) 07:57, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Robertsky, that article actually contains commentary on some specific notes. Feel free to add images there (where appropriate, so not in the table) and add a fair use rationale to the associated file description page(s) for that article. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:00, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Alexis Jazz I have updated the article and added a fair use rationale to the associated file description page(s). Is this sufficient? – robertsky (talk) 14:50, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Robertsky, sorry for the late response. Thank you for working on Singapore Portrait Series currency notes. So after taking a closer look at the article I don't think the reverse of any of the notes is needed there as there is no critical commentary on that part as required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. For most notes the only sources relevant to the note are http://www.mas.gov.sg/currency/currency_info/notes/portrait_series/ (which is a primary source, likely doesn't count as critical commentary) and "The Presidential Notes – Field Book : President Yusof bin Ishak and the Portrait Notes" by Stella Koh "for BCCS" which is the Board of Commissioners of Currency Singapore which redirects to Monetary Authority of Singapore. Only the descriptions for the $10 and $10,000 notes have a source other than those two.
I added a composite image to the top for identification (which also includes the $10 note) and left the $10,000 note front image in Singapore Portrait Series currency notes#$10,000 banknote but removed the rest. I think the composite image is actually better as it also demonstrates the difference in size. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 11:48, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Alexis Jazz I have no objections to the changes. :) – robertsky (talk) 16:18, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, as the images have relevance at Singapore Portrait Series currency notes now. – robertsky (talk) 09:58, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Robertsky/AJ. Buffs (talk) 22:48, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: More work to be done to incorporate these into articles...
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 18:19, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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