Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 June 19

June 19

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 19, 2017.

Ascent (font)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was retarget. [(non-admin closure)] Oiyarbepsy (talk) 00:08, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ascent (font) → Font (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Descent (font) → Font (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I don't know much about printing. Ascent is not mentioned in the article target. Where should this redirect point? Oiyarbepsy (talk) 23:49, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Neelix nonsense/misinformation. There is no font called "Ascent", and "ascent" is not a word ever used in typography or printing. Softlavender (talk) 23:51, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't go that far. Ascent is a term used in typography, see Typeface#Font metrics. That wouldn't make it a font, however. -- Tavix ^(talk) 00:04, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Tavix: I stand corrected. I nevertheless still recommend Deletion for both, because there is no font called "Ascent" or "Descent", which is what the redirects directly imply. If someone wants to create redirects called Ascent (typography) and Descent (typography), and redirect them to the section Typeface#Font metrics, that would be fine. Softlavender (talk) 00:32, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I've bundled Descent (font) as they should be discussed together. -- Tavix ^(talk) 00:04, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be useful as (font) as a shorthand to (typography)? Or better to just move these to typography? It can then be added to the dab page. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:43, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Typeface#Font metrics. I don't see the (font) bit as particularly confusing: parenthetical disambiguators don't necessarily indicate precise categorical membership, they're just pointers to the relevant subject area. Group (periodic table) isn't a periodic table, and neither is Transitivity (grammar) a kind of grammar. If the redirects are seen as unsightly, they can at most be tagged with {{R unprintworthy}}. – Uanfala 13:44, 27 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget as Uanfala proposed. That section gives readers the technical information they're looking for. Deryck C. 14:18, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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@Uanfala: Actually I've read the article in detail for the first time... will ascender and descender be better targets than Typeface#Font metrics? Deryck C. 14:04, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Deryck C., I don't know which is ultimately the better target, but if these get redirected to ascender (typography) and descender then the articles will have to be expanded with descriptions of ascent and descent respectively. Unless this happens, redirecting there would be misleading, as an ascender is a different thing than an ascent. – Uanfala 15:03, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Uanfala: Oh, thanks. I thought they were mostly synonymous. Deryck C. 14:47, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Boss Tweet

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, G7. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:57, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Boss Tweet → Donald Trump (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This... umm... doesn't seem to be "a thing". TimothyJosephWood 16:59, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Appears to be just a political insult. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:21, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Delete - Yeah, sorry about that. I didn't mean to actually create it.--Valkyrie Red (talk) 17:46, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Kaley Ronayne

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 14:17, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kaley Ronayne → Wrath of the Villains: Mad Grey Dawn (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete (or perhaps create a genuine article), Not helpful redirect, just one episode of many in different series she has done. IMDB: [1] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:29, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Can't be created as an article with two sources only. The Hollywood Reporter - 1. Deadline.com - 2. I have seen other editors creating redirects on actors with no available source. Captain Assassin! creates many many redirects of actors, producers, directors redirected at the movie page. Marvellous Spider-Man 16:45, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Marvellous Spider-Man: WP:OSE is not a valid argument. -- Alex^TW 17:06, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am fully aware of WP:OSE, be neutral and use same policy for all redirects. When I was a new editor, I saw him creating redirects of actors and actresses towards movies and nobody nominates them for deletion. I did this after seeing his edits, I think I discussed this in your talk page before. Only his movie redirects get nominated for WP:RFD by other editors. Marvellous Spider-Man 17:10, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Marvellous Spider-Man: "because Captain Assassin! did it" is a horrible excuse to use; upwards of one-hundred of his redirects have been deleted at RfD in a given week. Putting that aside, I'd like to know why you think it might be a good idea to redirect Kaley Ronayne to Wrath of the Villains: Mad Grey Dawn over all the other articles she's mentioned in, including but not limited to: Wrath of the Villains: Prisoners, Wrath of the Villains: Into the Woods, Brad Raider, Northern Borders, and Quarry (TV series). -- Tavix ^(talk) 18:06, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Tavix: I don't create this type of redirects nowadays, when others like AlexTheWhovian were objecting. I mentioned above that as a new editor I tried to edit like Captain Assassin!. His user talk page has WP:RFDs about upcoming movie titles, but many of his actor, actress,director,producer redirect don't get noticed. I am not going to make a WP:POINTy nomination of his redirects, as that would be harassing him. But if you see his mass redirect creation of actors which is going now also Jon Bass (actor), Leila George, Richie Merritt, Tremaine Brown Jr........... and there are perhaps hundreds of such redirects as Philip Zhou, Ian Colletti, Dennis Iliadis, Molly Gordon, Jessie Ennis, Tess Haubrich...I can go on with the long list..... I think you know the difference between movie name redirects and actor/actress redirects. His edit summary for such redirects is "for now".

@AlexTheWhovian: in this page see his specific edit summary "for now". I can see many actor redirects to movies. WP:OSE is not a good excuse when you can't explain how he is creating such actor/actress redirect with edit summary "for now", and you ignore them. Marvellous Spider-Man 01:31, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"For now"? What does that mean? "For now" would indicate that the creator make those redirects with the intention to expand them into articles at a later date, but some of those redirects are well over a year old and have never been expanded. So, what exactly does "for now" mean, and why does it make those edits acceptable? These redirects should all be listed for deletion, and creation of such redirects of a person to a piece of their work should be no longer allowable. Just because they were mass created, that does not make it any more acceptable. If anything, it's disruptive and spamming editing. -- Alex^TW 08:26, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, I've been diving into Captain Assassin!'s contributions for a long time now, nominating the "bad" ones at RfD in large bundles (~40) since there's simply too many of them to list. I'm still only about halfway through June 2013, and it seems like most if not all of the actor redirects were created later than that. But please, if you'd like to help out in the clean-up process, feel free to nominate any spammy redirects you've found. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:17, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. WP:TOOSOON to have a page and she isn't so strongly attached to this guest role to redirect there. If she becomes notable then she can be created in draft. But a bunch of episodic guest roles won't cut it. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:14, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Checking the two latest "for now" on that page, I´d say The Book of Life 2 is ok, but Leila George like Kaley Ronayne would just annoy me as a reader and should be deleted. Unless it has something to say about the actor/actress, following the wikilink is just a waste of time. Pinging Captain Assassin! since I prefer to talk about you behind your back in front of your face. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:21, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per above reasons. -- Alex^TW 08:26, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as WP:XY per my response to Spiderman. I'm too involved to be able to close this now, so I might as well !vote. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:17, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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2-ethyl-6-methyl-1,4-benzenediol

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, G7, by RickinBaltimore. -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:46, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2-ethyl-6-methyl-1,4-benzenediol → Morphine (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This chemical name is not a synonym for morphine. ChemNerd (talk) 13:52, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I thought I had made a copy paste from Controlled Drugs and Substances Act but what I pasted was not what I thought I had copied...sorry. Bosley John Bosley (talk) 13:57, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Tagged as G7. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:24, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Supreme Leader of the People's Republic

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ^(talk) 23:55, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Supreme Leader of the People's Republic → List of leaders of North Korea (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Began as a hoax article, redirected for some reason. No proof that this title is used in this fashion as it gets no results on Google. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 05:08, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete it's also a vague title that could redirect to a number of choices under Supreme Leader. That no news articles have used this title for any of these cases leads it to be useless. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:30, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - this could apply to Paramount leader of the PRC, as well. Keeping this gives undue prominence to North Korea. - Richard Cavell (talk) 19:17, 19 June 2017
Delete stupid search term. If you want to learn about North Korean leaders you would search for North Korean leaders. Legacypac (talk) 22:39, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per all the above. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 05:53, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Disambig as the leaders of China and North Korea are referred to using this title. It's also used by some right-wing commenters to refer to a Bernie Sanders presidency but I don't think this would make a good entry on the dab page. Thryduulf (talk) 08:21, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Lego games

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 July 4#List of Lego games

Ancient human

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 June 29#Ancient human

LeafyIsHere

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 14:16, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

LeafyIsHere → List of YouTubers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

LeafyIsHere is not (at least not anymore) mentioned in the target anymore. Per consensus here, only YouTubers who are notable and have their own articles should be included on the list of YouTubers page. Therefore, this redirect no longer serves a purpose and should be deleted. Everymorning (talk) 02:49, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The linked section was added to List of YouTubers by this edit, and removed by this edit. The redirect Calvin Vail was also created. TheDragonFire (talk) 03:51, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Draft:LeafyIsHere was deleted under G13, and should be evaluated to determine notability. TheDragonFire (talk) 04:14, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - This person doesn't appear to be really notable. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:52, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per nom. —MelbourneStar☆^talk 07:33, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:LSC AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:14, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Anywhen

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 July 8#Anywhen

Fantasyland (West Edmonton Mall)

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Anarchyte (work | talk) 01:38, 27 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fantasyland (West Edmonton Mall) → Galaxyland (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Seems like an improbably specific query to spur redirect. bojo | talk 01:04, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It's hat noted at Fantasyland already. The WEM amusements and attached hotel have been named Fantasyland since the mall opened in 1985. I was not aware of the name change.. The brackets are the only problematic thing, but they are not offensive. I'm going to create Fantasyland West Edmonton Mall as well Legacypac (talk) 02:05, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as former name. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:16, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, former name. 117Avenue (talk) 03:02, 23 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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June 19

Ascent (font)

Boss Tweet

Kaley Ronayne

2-ethyl-6-methyl-1,4-benzenediol

Art-designs

MCDONALD'S

Five Satans

Supreme Leader of the People's Republic

List of Lego games

Ancient human

LeafyIsHere

Anywhen

Fantasyland (West Edmonton Mall)