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Template:Furry Topicon

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete as G7 by User:Athaenara. However I made a reworked version in my user space at User:PorkchopGMX/sandbox/furry topicon, so this also may be considered as Userfy, however I think that is unlikely as the creator of the original template didn’t userfy it. (Incoming redirects were also speedy deleted.) (non-admin closure) Use {{re|PorkchopGMX}} to ping (Push to talk) 18:35, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Broken and unused topicon. --TheImaCow (talk) 20:22, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Ftd

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) EN-JungwonTalk 08:08, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unused --TheImaCow (talk) 20:20, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as it says on the page, it's an always susbt template. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:02, 25 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]
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Template:FrenchPostwarAircraft

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:05, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, very unusual navbox format --TheImaCow (talk) 20:18, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Broken map templates

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as T3 by Athaenara (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 00:03, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All of these are unused and broken --TheImaCow (talk) 20:10, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete All- Thank you; I've been meaning to do this for some time. I'm rather new at making templates and have yet to master making them; these were the result of a person having no idea what to do. So yes - I completely agree that these most certainly should be deleted (and I thank you for nominating them, and I apologize for forgetting to do so)!LINYperson615 (talk) 20:21, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:FieldHockeyAt1920SummerOlympics

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:05, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sidebar with only one link --TheImaCow (talk) 19:58, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Requests for feedback templates

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 December 4. (non-admin closure) EN-JungwonTalk 08:12, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Lang-he-n

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The result of the discussion was delete. after replacing with {{Lang-he}}. Consensus that a redirect would not be helpful and potentially confusing. Primefac (talk) 18:04, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose mergingredirecting Template:Lang-he-n to Template:Lang-he.
This was proposed on the talkpage in 2010 and in 2015. The latter discussion was closed as "Nominate it for a merge at TFD", which was never done. The reasons remain the same: {{Lang-he}} is perfectly capable of showing niqqud, so this template is superfluous. In addition there are two problems with this template: 1. the one raised in this talkpage discussion, that this template is meant for text in the Hebrew language, but transcludes another template which is specifically meant for Hebrew script which is not actually in the Hebrew language. 2. the fact that it uses another font than {{Lang-he}} makes it stand out (although that can be changed by changing the fonts in Template:Script/styles hebrew.css, I guess), and also makes it more prone to change (like what happened after this edit, as can be seen in this talkpage discussion). The second problem is not much of an issue, of course, but still. Debresser (talk) 09:49, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I invited all editors whom the template history showed to have edited this template more than incidentally to comment here. Debresser (talk) 16:33, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • I support this, this is probably legacy template from the early days of Wikipedia when Unicode was poorly supported and templates sometimes needed to nudge the browser into choosing the right font. This is no longer necessary, the "lang" templates should mark strings as in sa specific language regardless of the font used (i.e it should be possible/recommended to use lang-he even for transliterated Hebrew, or for Hebrew written in Paleo-Hebrew/Pheonician characters). --dab (𒁳) 12:02, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is not clear to me what 'merging' means in this case? Here are comparisons of {{lang-he-n}} and {{lang-he}}
  • Hebrew: ?'"`UNIQ--templatestyles-00000001-QINU`"'?בֵּית‎, lit. home
  • [[Hebrew language|Hebrew]]: <span lang="he" dir="rtl">בֵּית</span>, <small>[[Literal translation|lit.]]&thinsp;</small>&#39;home&#39;
The obvious differences are:
{{lang-he-n}} uses {{script/Hebrew}}; {{lang-he}} does not
{{lang-he-n}} does not have a lang=he html attribute
{{lang-he-n}} italicizes the linked static text 'lit.'
{{lang-he-n}} does not render the value assigned to |lit= as a linguistic gloss (not wrapped in single quotes)
If the proposal is to merge some or all of these differences into {{lang-he}}, then I will have to oppose because Module:Lang should not be tweaked to support exceptions to the style it applies to the renderings of all of the other {{lang-??}} templates.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:18, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Partially support. At a minimum, they should both have a lang=he html attribute, both support |label=none, both support |lit= and should both document all parameters and all differences in rendering and semantics.
What about {{rtl-lang|he}}? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 15:07, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Very much support. Would cause fewer headaches for people deciding on which one they should be using, and lang-he-n is most certainly redundant anyway. Stephen Walch (talk) 18:23, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that after the replacement, {{Lang-he-n}} can be deleted. Debresser (talk) 11:49, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I suspect lang-he-n is now only used as a stylistic preference because of the font in which it renders the Hebrew (which is, admitedly, probably slightly easier to read the niqqud). There have been IPs (not sure if it's the same person) changing lang-he to lang-he-n for years, I would guess for this reason. Number 57 17:51, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you regarding the font. I personally also prefer the font of Lang-he-n over the Lang-he font, which is less classical and more modern. Debresser (talk) 16:53, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Sandbox heading/Talk/doc

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 07:37, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

originally nominated for speedy deletion by @Moxy under WP:CSD#G2 as a test page FASTILY 05:25, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Tllsep/begin and Template:Tllsep

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 07:36, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unused/redundant template. The redirect Template:Tllsep/end is also nominated for deletion, at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 November 25#Template:Tllsep/end -- /Alex/21 01:32, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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