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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure)‎ Geschichte (talk) 13:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Volodymyr Kulish

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~~Unreferenced BLP article. Cannot find significant coverage in sources from translated pages.~~ Withdrawn. I am mistaken; there are sources I did not realize I could access, so the article is in fact notable. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 01:17, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and Ukraine. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 01:17, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, Governor of Chernivtsi Oblast is a notable position equivalent to a United States Governor. Much of the subject's coverage is in Ukrainian [1][2] Microplastic Consumer (talk) 02:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep -- Subject meets WP:NPOL. JTtheOG (talk) 02:10, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, former governor. Ceriy (talk) 02:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Ukrainian flag officers losses during the Russo-Ukrainian War

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Per WP:NLIST, in order for a standalone list to be notable the list must itself be a topic covered in reliable sources: "One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; and other guidelines on appropriate stand-alone lists." In contrast to the list of Russian generals killed, there is not discussion of Ukrainian 'flag officer' deaths as a set. Since there are no reliable sources that discuss ukrainian 'flag officer lossses' as a set, this list article does not meet the notablity guidelines. This is in contrast to Russian generals killed during the invasion of Ukraine--they are discussed as a set in reliable sources. To take another example, reliable sources discuss 'non water floods' as a set^[1]^[2] and therefore this group or set satisfies the notability requirements for a list article: List of non-water floods. There is no reliable source in the article under discussion for deletion here that discusses Ukrainian 'flag losses' as a set. List notability can be tricky to understand, but the key is that the set must be discussed in reliable sources as a set. AugusteBlanqui (talk) 13:39, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. AugusteBlanqui (talk) 13:39, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 13:47, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 13:47, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 13:47, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There is no problem with the list. The article name does not mention killed, it clearly says losses (not nesesary killed). The profile of those losses are top-tier Ukrainian Flag officers or Generals/Admirals, for example Hayduk was the Admiral of the Ukrainian Navy, Kutsyn was the Chief of the General Staff of the Ukrainian Army and Koval was the Ministry of Defense. It's unusual hence the list.Mr.User200 (talk) 21:26, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I think flag officers are significant enough for their own list. There has been some discussion of losses eg [3] Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:32, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: List is predicated on a notable topic with entries supported by reliable sources, even if there are no sources covering the topic matter as a whole "set". --Katangais (talk) 01:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep:, the list is notable as it covers the longer Russo-Ukrainian War from 2014 and not just the russian invasion from 2022 when many Russian officers where killed in short order wich gained more international attention. But this does not mean we should forget the pre-invasion losses Shadow4dark (talk) 03:27, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Losses among flag officers are notable enough to warrant their own article/list. Plus, the article is comprehensive to include all losses since 2014. EkoGraf (talk) 08:47, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marxist–Leninist Party of Ukraine

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Unsourced since 2009. The external link does not refer to this party, at least per machine translation. Only references I can find to this party are referring or reproducing this article. Smallangryplanet (talk) 20:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and Ukraine. Smallangryplanet (talk) 20:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I find nothing at all searching in either Ukrainian or Russian. There was 'Communist Marxist-Leninist Party of Ukraine' founded in 2013 by Leonid Grach [ru], which was clearly another party. --Soman (talk) 10:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Illya Tsaryuk

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Played half a game of football with no significant coverage cited here nor on Ukrainian Wikipedia (although the latter has more content, the sources are all non-independent or database sources). My own searches yielded Champion and UA Football, neither of which are anywhere near enough for even WP:SPORTBASIC #5, a lower bar than WP:GNG. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:33, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Ukraine. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:33, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:36, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete. If this isn't a failure to "make any credible claim of significance or importance", nothing is. Geschichte (talk) 22:32, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is not A7 eligible. Giant Snowman 18:55, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is, because the link between playing one football match and significance or importance has been completely severed. Saying that a person played one football match is no more a claim to notability than "George White is a high school teacher". Well over one thousand AFDs and PRODs reaffirm this. Geschichte (talk) 07:42, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:55, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC. All the sources I found under this name were for a wrestler that was clearly a different person.4meter4 (talk) 10:14, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Western European paintings in Ukrainian museums

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1) As far as I can tell, we don't have any other article that is about "List of paintings of x origin being held in museums in y country". This feels like WP:ARBITRARYCAT, and it's really not notable that Western European paintings specifically are held in Ukraine when Western European paintings are held in museums around the world and when Ukrainian museums have collections of paintings from around the world.

2) Most of the history discussed in the article is not about Western European art in Ukraine specifically, but about the history of artworks in Ukraine in general (several mentions of art museums with Oriental art). This is an interesting topic, but it doesn't justify the existence of an article dedicated specifically to Western European art in Ukraine.

3) The article has been marked as completely lacking sources for 15 years, probably because there is a lack of sources dedicated to the topic of "which Western European paintings are held in Ukraine" (only one I could find was a book published in 1981, but the information in that list is almost certainly out of date after 40 years).

Previous deletion discussion was closed as no consensus.

Jaguarnik (talk) 14:06, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Ukraine, Visual arts, and Lists. Jaguarnik (talk) 15:09, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I tend to agree with the nom, this isn't really helpful when Western European art is held around the world. I really don't see notability for most of the museums, they aren't that well-known. We're not listing paintings in the Louvre or the MoMA, that are world-famous. Oaktree b (talk) 16:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, the list part of this article is unhelpful. National museums house stuff from across the entire globe, it's what they do, and which museums house what isn't really encyclopedia material. Where there's a particular documented controversy about a country's culture being housed in another country's museums (Elgin marbles is an extreme individual case) then we can have an article, but I don't think there's any special controversy about the fact there are Western European paintings in Ukrainian museums. So I agree to this extent: the list could be deleted. But the introductory material to the list, about the history of museums, galleries, and art-works is actually quite encyclopedic and interesting. Could the article be trimmed of its "list" material and status, and moved to a more appropriate title? Elemimele (talk) 17:31, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as WP:CROSSCAT. ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 03:20, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Elemimele's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:23, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment imo the problem with the suggestion is that that portion of the article remains unreferenced, so while it is interesting and possibly valid as a renamed article, I would want to see it appropriately sourced - or sourced at all - before making that determination. Are there other articles we could merge it into that already discuss the topic? Smallangryplanet (talk) 10:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a single source, but I still stand by my comment. Smallangryplanet (talk) 10:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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