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Lauris Bērziņš

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Delete – I really struggled to find any references at all. The single external link in the article does not work, either on the original site or archive.org, and other WP:BEFORE searches turned up nothing to demonstrate that the subject meets WP:SPORTCRIT. In particular, I couldn’t find anything to satisfy Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject. Finally, taking the results stated in the article as they stand: even if they were substantiated, notability would, I suggest, be a reach. It is possible that there are more extensive and significant sources in Latvian to establish notability, in which case I would be happy to retract my delete recommendation. SunloungerFrog (talk) 23:47, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 03:05, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad Ishtiaq Ghafoor

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Declined prod. One of the sources added is a small mention of him [1] and not WP:SIGCOV. Normally notable weightlifters have at least competed in Olympics or medalled in a major competition. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 23:13, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment The very first source says he won a silver medal at the 2006 South Asian Games. I know nothing about that competition or whether or not that makes him notable.4meter4 (talk) 03:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So Min-chol

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 21:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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So Kyong-jin

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 21:42, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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There's a short piece on him here. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sim Hyon-jin

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 21:39, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sigcov here, which is about 700 words jointly-focused on him and one other player. One could certainly write a decent-sized start/c bio here. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:45, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kai Trump

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Previously deleted/redirected at AfD. Recreated by a new user and honestly the coverage doesn't look any better than it did at the first AfD, so I can't see it warranting a standalone article. Serious issues with WP:NOTINHERITED. Should be redirected back to Donald Trump Jr.#Family as per the consensus of the last AfD. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect as done previously and lock it to prevent repeated disruption. Iggy pop goes the weasel (talk) 19:29, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Restore redirect per last AfD. This shouldn't even go to AfD, it should be up to those few who think it should be a standalone article to demonstrate what has changed and why that would change the previous AfD consensus. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Meets WP:GNG with multiple references focusing on her:

These references have all been published after the last AfD, and/or were not in the article during the last AfD. The Mountain of Eden (talk) 20:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

None of this coverage suggests that she is notable separate from her relationship to the broader Trump family, and is pretty insubstantial. Per Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Invalid_criteria That person A has a relationship with well-known person B, such as being a spouse or child, is not a reason for a standalone article on A. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:36, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

She is covered in-depth in multiple WP:RS that are independent of her, which satisfies the requirements in WP:GNG. The Mountain of Eden (talk) 20:39, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a silly post that could be made about any subject whatsoever.

None of the sources at the article Julius Caesar suggest that he is notable separate from his relationship to his broader military and political achievements -- do you here suggest a redirect to Roman Empire per WP:NOPAGE? jp×g 🗯️ 00:09, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, but the valid reason would be that she has received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. This is a point that is often misunderstood on Wikipedia, presumably because of WP:UPPERCASE shortcuts like WP:NOTINHERITED. If you actually read WP:NOTINHERITED, you'll see that it says Individuals in close, personal relationships with famous people (including politicians) can have an independent article even if they are known solely for such a relationship, but only if they pass WP:GNG. What it actually means is that people are not automatically notable just because they're related to someone – they can still meet GNG, even if that is all they are "known" for. C F A 💬 00:41, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What has she done that is actually noteworthy? These articles are basically puff pieces. We know she plays golf and that she was invited to give a speech at an RNC convention where she says Donald Trump a normal grandfather and that she has no interest in pursuing politics. The social media stuff in the article is irrelevant puffery. Iggy pop goes the weasel (talk) 20:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The social media stuff is obviously not independent of her. But the 5 references above (and there are more in the article, I just listed the top 5) are all in-depth (not a casual mention), independent of her, and independent of each other. That's all that is needed for WP:GNG. The Mountain of Eden (talk) 21:31, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per nom., Iggy pop goes the weasel, Traumnovelle, and WP:NOPAGE. Sal2100 (talk) 20:47, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: meets GNG. See my comment above. C F A 💬 00:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I do feel that those opting for redirect are really failing to see the huge differences between this AFD and the previous one in July.

1.Firstly, Trump has made a YouTube channel as of October that has already received 220,000 subscribers (and more than 50k of those in the last 24 hours), has a video with over 2 million views in two days which has significant political interest and coverage in major news outlets (and a second video with over a million views).

2. Kai Trump has more than a million followers on TikTok and 500,000 followers on Instagram, which has all changed since the last AfD where she had 100,000 followers on Instagram for example.

3. The election of 9 days ago also casts her in a different light- she is a content creator who will have significant proximity to an in-power president between the ages of 17-21, and already has a huge audience and is receiving notable coverage. Do you really think that Kai Trump is going to fade into obscurity and never again achieve notability? Deleting this article is only going to delay publication for six months or less, and she is already receiving 9,000 plus article visits per day (not that this means anything for notability purposes, but the article clearly has demand and she clearly has significant attention).

In my opinion, the previous AFD fell the right way because of the fact she was only notable for her RNC speech- by all accounts she is now achieving notability for other reasons at this point, and she will continue to do so. There are now [sources] claiming that she is Trump's most important social media ally, etc. I would expect coverage on this subject to increase dramatically in the coming months with the inauguration and as she produces more content. Let us compare with her uncle Barron Trump (as she has been compared with before), who has been deleted via AFD before: this would suggest that Barron has attained nowhere close to the notable achievements or coverage that Kai has now received, with no sections of independent notability as far as I can tell. Kai's article Passes WP:GNG. I edited her article extensively yesterday though, so I would expect some degree of bias from me in trying to keep the article retained.Spiralwidget (talk) 01:51, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This is a poorly-written article about a person whose accomplishments I find unimpressive. Sources obviously pass GNG. Is there a BLP issue, or some other urgent concern that makes GNG unsuitable here? Or is it just a politics thing? jp×g 🗯️ 02:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Family of Donald Trump. Not seeing any sources that are notable outside of Donald Trump, until she becomes notable by herself I can't vote keep. Esolo5002 (talk) 06:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/redirect to Family of Donald Trump (1st choice) or back to Donald Trump Jr.#Family (2nd choice). (I think the family article is better than the father's article for the same anti-patriarchal reasons I detailed in the first AFD and won't repeat here.)

In the first AFD, I thought the article subject was just shy of meeting WP:GNG, with borderline sigcov from WP:TIER3 sources like [2] [3] [4] [5], with the best source at the time IMO being ABC News, though even that one had little in-depth information about the subject, and was mostly about the RNC speech.

The 5 new sources posted above don't really move the needle for me. #1 WP:DAILYBEAST is yellow at RSP, and anyway it's an opinion piece. #2 I'm not sure that EssentiallySports is an RS. #3 is not technically not independent of the other ABC News article, and anyway is more about the subject's election night vlog than about the subject herself. #4 is a routine signing report which usually don't count as sigcov of an athlete, and #5 NYT is about the RNC speech, like the earlier ABC News article, not in depth of the subject herself. What's missing is like two solid biographies of the subject; then I'd be convinced that there is so much material about the subject that it should be on its own page.

But for now, I think everything that meets WP:DUE/WP:ASPECT in all of those sources that is actually about the subject is only enough to fill up a section in an article, e.g. Family of Donald Trump. Even if the subject meets GNG, for WP:PAGEDECIDE reasons (readers will understand the subject better in the context of her family rather than as a stand-alone article, particularly since most of her notability is derived from her family, with her golf career constituting a minority of the overall RS coverage), I think it's better to cover this topic as part of another article rather than as its own article.

Also, I note that the prior AFD resulted in consensus to redirect, and it was edit-warred back into an article, which led to this second AFD (1, 2, 3). A trout to those editors for editing against consensus. The new information should have been added to the target article, and if a stand-alone was sought, a split should have been proposed on the target article's talk page per WP:PROSPLIT. Levivich (talk) 07:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ross Twell

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. No notable achievements, only coverage I'm able to find is this which alone isn't enough to merit an article. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 21:28, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Hardy

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. No notable achivements, no significant coverage that I can find. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 21:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rhys Mathewson

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Only coverage seems to be of one match where he defeated James Wade, no notable achievements beyond that. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 21:50, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Rowley (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. No achievements of note and as a consequence, nothing vaguely resembling sigcov. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 22:00, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Simon Preston (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Only coverage I can find is passing mentions in coverage of local tournament results. No notable achievements. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 22:02, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Robinson (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pete Dyos

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Only coverage I can find is this, which is not enough to merit an article. No notable achievements. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 22:04, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yip Ka Yu

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Played 892 minutes of football in the Hong Kong Premier League. (Played in the second league as well, not professional.) No notability as a football player, and no notability under the WP:PERP guideline either. Geschichte (talk) 18:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mark Tanko

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No indication of meeting WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT with independent and significant sources. Geschichte (talk) 18:28, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:FOOTYN, WP:SPORTCRIT or WP:ANYBIO. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Farkaš

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Farkaš played a total of 925 minutes before disappearing in 2013. The only secondary source I found is SME, a transfer announcement. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 16:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sebastian Stahl

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Article is unsourced with the only external links leading to database-type webpages (WP:NOTDATABASE), only notability appears to be as a relation to the Schumacher family and not his own sporting achievements (therefore failing WP:NMOTORSPORT). MSportWiki (talk) 09:26, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The only coverage out there is of him not taking a doomed flight and every headline (I say 'every', there are like 2), is "Michael Schumacher's stepbrother flew on doomed Germanwings flight one day before crash". Altogether now, 'notability is not inherited' and there's absolutely no SIGCOV of him in his own right, thereby failing WP:GNG. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:20, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shin Yung-kyoo

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 03:11, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Easily notable and has GA potential as captain of the historic 1966 North Korean World Cup team, a recipient of the title People's Athlete (honoring the greatest North Korean sportspeople in history - [6] - satisfying WP:ANYBIO), being one of ~five players focused on in a full-length book in North Korea (ref 1), being considered a national sports hero (per The Game of Their Lives) and a very prominent member of the national team with freaking 97 caps. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:57, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Not only was a book covering him written in North Korea, but at the National Library of South Korea there's a 240-page book on Legend of Destiny: Shin Young-gyu and Park Seung-jin who wrote the myth of the 1966 England World Cup quarterfinals from 2020! BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:52, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per BeanieFan11; really poor nomination. Giant Snowman 19:57, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per above. Svartner (talk) 01:27, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ryu Song-gun

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 01:17, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like a prominent member of the national team with 27 games and seven goals. A search brings up a number of mentions of him in South Korean media from the time. I think one could certainly write at least a decent start-class article on him... BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:32, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Drafify - to allow BeanieFan11 to improve the article. Giant Snowman 19:56, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify – Per above. Svartner (talk) 01:26, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keith Stephen

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 22:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - nothing on Google News. Appears to have no significant success in the sport. starship.paint (talk / cont) 07:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jason Lovett

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 22:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Google News only turns out one article with WP:SIGCOV (that calls him a "rookie"), rest of the Google News articles are just name mentions. Does not appear to have any significant success. starship.paint (talk / cont) 08:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scott Darbyshire

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 22:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Google News shows only name mentions, no WP:SIGCOV to establish WP:GNG. No significant success in the sport. starship.paint (talk / cont) 07:02, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Parsons (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 22:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no WP:SIGCOV in Google News (some of the links are for other people with the same name) and no significant success in the sport. starship.paint (talk / cont) 06:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dmitri Sukharev (footballer)

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Fails WP:GNG (WP:NBASIC).--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 13:05, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no major success in the sport, not even played for a top-flight team. Nothing much in the form of significant coverage in English in Google News. Very few pages on Google Search for his Russian name. starship.paint (talk / cont) 13:35, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:55, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jozef Bujňák

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Bujňák played a total of 711 minutes in the Slovak First League before transferring to lower clubs beginning with 2017. Regarding secondary sources, I only found a passing mention on Dnes24. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:00, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:GNG. Needs secondary sources to show WP:SIGCIV. Unable to find any coverage that meets this. Demt1298 (talk) 15:52, 13 November 2024 (UTC) Demt1298 (talk) 15:52, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:56, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zahir Ali

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Fails WP:BIO, has no notable achievements under WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT, completely unsourced, has never advanced beyond stub status in its' 15 years of existence. MSportWiki (talk) 21:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Name is too common to find anything about this person. Does not appear to have ever won any races, nor done much of anything notable. Sourced only to a database, which is a long way from showing notability. No updates in 15 or so years this article has been up, doesn't help show notability either. Oaktree b (talk) 22:28, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, found some sources but not sure if they are good enough to establish notability for him. See sources [7][8][9]. Mekomo (talk) 12:34, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The first two sources simply verify the stub text that's already there, they don't add to the article. MSportWiki (talk) 07:09, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nicole Kuzmichová

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Non-notable figure skater; fails WP:NSKATE. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alexandr Sinicyn

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Non-notable figure skater; fails WP:NSKATE. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Li Kai-jie

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Having international caps for a country with no impact on the sport at large, is no longer a free pass with regards to notability. With a handful of caps and a very short club career, this would need substantial sources to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 08:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 11:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - searched news articles for him and only found one article. Does not appear to have played many professional games. starship.paint (talk / cont) 12:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:35, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eita Kasagawa

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Deleted before. Career consisting of 472 minutes play time. No sources (including ja:wiki) to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 08:01, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 11:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - he apparently played in only 12 professional football matches in total and not in any major teams. Not prominent. starship.paint (talk / cont) 11:32, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mohamed Al-Hamar

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Declined prod. Could not find any sources in google news and google books. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:NOLY. I would reconsider if there is anything in Arabic. LibStar (talk) 05:16, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ryoo Chang-kil

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 03:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to 1966 FIFA World Cup squads#North Korea as possible search term. Giant Snowman 10:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 1966 FIFA World Cup squads#North Korea. His Korean Wikipedia article is also a stub. Could not find news articles on him. starship.paint (talk / cont) 13:29, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per the previous two users. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 16:54, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

João Urbano

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Fails WP:BIO, has no notable achievements under WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT, only one primary source which contains basic biographical info. MSportWiki (talk) 01:04, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aaron Lim

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Fails WP:BIO, has no notable achievements under WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT, completely unsourced. MSportWiki (talk) 00:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, agreed, fails WP:BIO

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Scott Dale

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no WP:SIGCOV, just name mentions on Google News. No apparent significant success in the sport. starship.paint (talk / cont) 08:29, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Moss (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - appears to have no significant success in the sport and has only one article with WP:SIGCOV per Google News, rest are just name mentions. starship.paint (talk / cont) 08:31, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Marland

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Arthur Motta

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Article does not currently meet WP:GNG for a stand-alone biography. The references provided are primarily primary sources (club websites, match reports, and statistics), which are not sufficient to demonstrate the player's notability. — MimsMENTOR ^talk 13:47, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify. The player actually plays football matches every week, and it's a pretty good chance more sources will turn up in the next 6-7 months, unless the sources are unearthed already. Geschichte (talk) 15:11, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Drafify - not currently notable, but might be in future. Giant Snowman 16:17, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep or Draftify – I found an article in the Brazilian media covering his good time in Bulgaria [10], as well as coverage from major portals about his previous transfers [11], [12]. As Geschichte commented, in a short time WP:GNG should be uncontested. Svartner (talk) 16:41, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miloš Riečičiar

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Appears to have had a 33-day professional football career, playing 6 games in the Slovak top league in July-August 2010. No indication of significant coverage then or since. C 679 13:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 13:12, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:23, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no significant coverage in <15 articles on Google News. Less than 70 search results on Google Search. starship.paint (talk / cont) 14:01, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

James Fulton (English cricketer)

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Non notable by the look of it. Amateur University cricketer is no longer deemed notable by default and sourcing is a cricket database and school website. Neither meet the current standards for inclusion. Spartaz ^Humbug! 12:23, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A sample of mentions in The Times (there are more)- via Wikipedia Library including:

Cox, Rupert (18 April 1998). "Students grant initiative to White". The Times. No. 66179. p. 34. - Mentions Fulton as Captain of team and mentions possibly poor decision to insert opposition.

Bailey, Jack (17 April 1997). "Fulton and Scrini stage rescue mission". The Times. No. 65866. p. 56.

Bailey, Jack (18 April 1997). "Students sent down with all guns blazing". The Times. No. 65867. p. 45.
Thicknesse, John (10 May 1997). "Oxford let down by batting frailties". The Times. No. 65886. p. 47.

presumably other British Broadsheets (i.e. Telegraph and Guardian) will also have similar.

Also mentioned in Wisdens for 1998 and 1999 (1998 "James Fulton...made polished first class fifties" and that captaincy handed over to him for 1998) together with match reports.Nigel Ish (talk) 13:36, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

added a few more details and sources to the article - It should be noted that he was captain for a season, which does raise his importance a little.Nigel Ish (talk) 15:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. A fairly substantial first-class career, covered by reliable sources. AA (talk) 14:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Roman Babyak

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His professional career lasted only 50 mins and I can't find any suggestion of meeting WP:SPORTBASIC. The best source that I can find is Bibrka Gov, a local source that mentions him a few times in a match report. Match reports aren't generally seen as significant coverage. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:01, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Match reports aren't generally seen as significant coverage. As long as the news article focuses on a specific footballer and describes them in signficant detail, that might be fine in my opinion. I can say such an example is this one. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:30, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would this work? [13] Ceriy (talk) 02:31, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess so, but only one source is not sufficient. It also looks like a blogspot to me... ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Although the article is written in prose, most of the content is just regurgitating basic stats about the player (e.g. date of debut, number of appearances) so I would say it's fairly light coverage. As Clara says above, this is only one source and multiple sources are usually preferred. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:50, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is a routine transactional announcement and so fails GNG, and furthermore is straight from the governing football federation so is not independent. JoelleJay (talk) 18:30, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Zero sources of IRS SIGCOV identified. JoelleJay (talk) 18:30, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pavlo Shostka

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This article may look well sourced at first glance but, in actual fact, it's just a WP:REFBOMB of database sources, none of which confer any notability per WP:SPORTBASIC. His 8 matches in the third tier of Ukraine might provide a very weak presumption of notability but, ultimately, Shostka needs to have significant coverage from independent sources to have an article. Looking at Ukrainian Wikipedia and online, the best that I can find are Desna 1 and Desna 2, both of which are published by his then-employer so are neither independent nor reliable (see WP:RS and WP:IS). Please delete unless independent and significant coverage can be found for Shostka. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per nom. No significant success in the sport, less than 10 professional matches at present. Less than 50 Google Search results. starship.paint (talk / cont) 14:18, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zdravko Dermenov

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Dermenov has had an unremarkable career to date and the article is currently nothing more than a stats stub. Blitz was the best source in my searches but it's only a match report for a match in which he received a red card. Other sources like Novsport and Gong are only trivial mentions. No indication of WP:SPORTBASIC. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:33, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. More so an unremarkable, he barely had any career at all. Geschichte (talk) 15:16, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Khateeb

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Fails WP:BIO, has no notable achievements under WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT, only two sources and both are deadlinks. MSportWiki (talk) 10:48, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Agree, clearly and signally fails WP:GNG, Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 13:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - while this does appear to be a failure of notability, "both sources are dead links" is *not* a valid rationale for deletion. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Respectfully disagree - if the sources are not considered important enough to be archived, deadlinks are a valid indication of notability (or lackthereof). MSportWiki (talk) 09:19, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aldo Guna

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Badly sourced BLP with no evidence of meeting WP:SPORTBASIC. The best source found in my search was Soccernet, which is just a squad list mention. I have searched under "Aldo Guna" and "Erald Guna". Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:08, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per nom - cannot find any evidence of any notability, Fails GNG-- Robertjamal12 ~🔔 11:33, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Latham

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His soccer career was not notable at all, having only played 172 minutes in Revolution, as well as a friendly goal that can't be the basis of a Wikipedia article. I don't think the local news source cuts it GNG-wise, as it is an everyday piece of coverage with the majority being a Q&A interview. It would take much more making this meet WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Geschichte (talk) 07:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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'Redirect to All-time New England Revolution roster as possible search term. Giant Snowman 10:59, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect – Per above. Svartner (talk) 12:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Serxhio Emini

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Played 32 minutes in Albania’s highest league, continuing in the semi-pro second tier. The source currently cited in the article is very short and far from significant. Neither is this. [ https://www.panorama.com.al/sport/serxho-emini-me-bylisin-do-te-shkelqej-edhe-ne-superiore/ This] is 2/3 quotes from Emini, so doesn’t pass muster either. Geschichte (talk) 07:46, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:57, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:04, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yaroslav Matyukhin

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Poorly sourced article. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 06:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, fails all notability guidelines. Geschichte (talk) 08:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:57, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:04, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Carlos Ortega (footballer, born 1997)

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Played 2 matches and then disappeared. The only decent source that I can find is Noroeste, which is little more than a trivial mention. No evidence of WP:SPORTBASIC. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:18, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as I have not been able to find any sources beyond the one raised by Spiderone, and automatic databases which only contain trivial mentions. The one human-created article doesn't meet WP:SIGCOV as it's mainly about the team, he's literally just listed next to a bullet point. At this point in time, he doesn't come close in both English and Spanish media to reaching WP:BIO or WP:SPORTSBASIC from my search. MolecularPilot ^{🧪️✈️} 04:04, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete, does not make a credible claim to notability. The creator seems like one of the worst and most problematic creators, per the flood of deletion notices on his talk page and being indefinitely blocked. Geschichte (talk) 08:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:51, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jovanni Hurtado

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Had a brief pro career but I'm not seeing enough coverage for WP:SPORTBASIC. The best that I could find was Medio Tiempo, which mentions him once in the main text and once in the squad list. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete since subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY. The fact that it was posted up by a serial abuser of multiple accounts who created a bunch of since-deleted texts does not help: I'd surmise paid contributor were I sherlockish but I'm not even the tax man. -The Gnome (talk) 19:42, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rafael Escalante

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Despite 164 mins of professional football, I can find no evidence of a passing of WP:SPORTBASIC. In fact, I can only find database sources. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:58, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:08, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Yet another text posted up by our serial abuser of multiple accounts. Most of them have been taken down already. This is a mop up, apparently. Subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY -The Gnome (talk) 19:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Besian Çeliku

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Potentially fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC. My own searches yield only database sources. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:54, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:08, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, obviously fails said guidelines. Geschichte 23:37, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete since subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY -The Gnome (talk) 19:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Naveen Perwani

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Non-notable snooker player. Doesn't meet GNG. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:01, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Speedy Keep as he is a bronze medalist of the 2002 Asian Games (see) — Mister Banker (talk) 21:45, 9 November 2024 (UTC)~~ Blocked sock[reply]

Please enlighten me on why this is a 'speedy keep'. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:11, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep He won 2 bronze medals at the 2002 Asian Games.--گل زیب (talk) 22:42, 9 November 2024 (UTC) — گل زیب (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Which has nothing to do with WP:GNG Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:00, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't even come close to being notable. He's never even been in the top 128 players of snooker in the world. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:00, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I can only find routine coverage of results, no evidence that WP:GNG is met. Please ping me if good sources are identified. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:22, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Good to go for Pakistan, his medals in Asian games makes him notable to be on Wikipedia. Muneebll (talk) 21:20, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How so? The Asian Games aren't the Olympics. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:22, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In context of Pakistan it is where winning medals in international games is a rare feat. Muneebll (talk) 21:26, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
the nation of origin is irrelevant. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:05, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Asian Games medalist is notable enough. and when I google his name i see enough articles about him in Pakistani media. Sports2021 (talk) 02:35, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: He is also mentioned in Urdu (National) language media.--Y7L (talk) 22:07, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Where are the GNG sources? The "random" SPAs above don't seem to be aware of SPORTCRIT and its requirement for a SIGCOV source to be cited in the article. JoelleJay (talk) 23:46, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete since subject spectacularly fails both WP:GNG and WP:ATHLETE. If being the cousin of a famous fashion designer was a criterion we would keep the text. It's not. By coincidence, most contributors suggesting Keep in this AfD are kamikaze accounts. -The Gnome (talk) 19:50, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Theodore Travis

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Fails WP:GNG. No secondary sources that show WP:SIGCOV. Demt1298 (talk) 19:14, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:08, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. One wishes good luck to the youngster, but sources supporting notability are unavailable. -The Gnome (talk) 19:52, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Saoud Al-Nuaimi

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Had only a very brief career and no evidence of WP:SPORTBASIC. Best that I can find in Arabic is FilGoal, which is just a database source. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:22, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, only 308 playing minutes confirmed by Soccerway. Geschichte (talk) 17:47, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:14, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:08, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abdulrahman Mohamed (footballer, born 2002)

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Lacks sources to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Only played 14 matches in the Qatari league. Article looks very similar to those created by sockpuppet abuser Mhsohaib (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Geschichte (talk) 09:48, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:14, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:07, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Youn Young-seong

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 7 minutes in the K-League and 215 minutes in the J2 league. The Japanese Wikipedia has mostly primary sources, though it has the one sports.khan.co.kr article, which looks like fluff to me. It has words like "grow rapidly" and "absorbing the detailed and fast-paced soccer unique to South America like a sponge" when the reality is he never played a single competitive match in South America. Geschichte (talk) 09:43, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:14, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:07, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Malcolm Davies (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 09:31, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - does not appear to have significant success in the sport. Less than 130 Google Search results. starship.paint (talk / cont) 08:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kari Saukkonen

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 09:29, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - does not appear to have significant success in the sport. Less than 60 Google Search results. starship.paint (talk / cont) 08:42, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

John Cosnett

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 09:29, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Having won the British Open and being the first player to have been paid by the UK government to play darts, Cosnett has coverage of its time - Sunday Mercury, Black Country Evening Mail for same, Herald Express for same - for this matter, there's a heap of other regional papers who cover him for being the only player at the time paid by the government for his sporting career. Further coverage of him "rounding off his year in style" in the Black Country Evening Mail by winning the British Open, the national darting competition at the time. There's also the Black Country Evening Mail covering him switching careers to enter the pub business (which isn't quite about his sporting achievements, but it'd be weird for a regional newspaper to cover some non-notable bloke applying for a pub license...). I don't have access to the BNA but there's also a story in the Wolverhampton Express and Star entitled "Darts star John off to seek fame", and in the same publication for him not paying his taxes - again, not really about his achievements, but it's hard to think some random unnotable would get the same coverage, let alone labelled a "darts ace". I'm seeing well enough coverage from his heyday to merit keeping the article. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 17:55, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mick Manning (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 22:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dean Allsop

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 22:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no sporting success and I searched Google News, most of the articles were about a murdered man and not this darts player. starship.paint (talk / cont) 09:18, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reg Harding

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 22:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jack Vance (tennis)

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Fails to meet notability or significant coverage criteria. Played 2 ATP Tour matches in doubles and lost both. Highest ranking of 765. Shrug02 (talk) 18:08, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - unsurprisingly, I can't find any WP:SIGCOV Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aaron Chandler

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Prod was formerly tried. A career consisting of a cup game, 13 games in the USL First Division and some failed trials is a very weak claim to notability, fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 17:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:GNG. No secondary coverage that shows [[WP:SIGCOV}} Demt1298 (talk) 19:10, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Akers

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Fully fails WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. During a WP:BEFORE, no significant coverage was found. And why would there be, when he only played one cup game for Notts County as well as brief spells in obscure locales. Kept before (twice) due to a guideline that was scrapped and no longer exists. Geschichte (talk) 09:43, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, as per the nomation. JustARandomEditor123 (talk) 11:04, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Fails WP:GNG, no secondary coverage that shows WP:SIGCOV. Demt1298 (talk) 19:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yu Tokiwa

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When one season in Singapore is all this player has done, notability is very questionable. Sources are lacking significant in-depth information about the player as well as independence (all Gekisaka sources in tha ja:wiki version are routine), and I don't think one piece in Town News is enough to make an encyclopedic article. Geschichte (talk) 05:38, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:42, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shinichi Shuto

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No sources to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT and not remotely close to a claim to notability, having played 2 cup games for J League teams. Creator is blocked indefinitely. Geschichte (talk) 20:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:42, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - he played 2 professional football matches. That is not a prominent career. starship.paint (talk / cont) 14:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC and WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 22:19, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jamie Vance

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No WP:SIGCOV that I could find. Most articles other than this one are just a passing mention. Other results are just tennis databases etc. Barely meets WP:NTENNIS (was an alternate at 2022 Delray Beach Open and 2022 Sofia Open) but fails WP:SIGCOV. RachelTensions (talk) 13:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. As per nom. Shrug02 (talk) 22:14, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails WP:SPORTCRIT, can’t even find a single source with substantial information. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 07:10, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sulaiman Ismail

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No notable career achievements that can be verified. News coverage is nonexistent. He is the brother of Rocket Ismail, however per WP:BLPRELATED, that is irrelevant. 162 etc. (talk) 22:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete My search didn't find significant independent coverage that meets WP:GNG and the article has none. His football career was not WP notable nor were his forays into competitive martial arts. Papaursa (talk) 22:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No notable achievements, only played collegial and amateur in MMA. Also having a "black belt" is not sufficient for wiki notability. fails WP:SPORTS, WP:MMA and fails WP:GNG. Lekkha Moun (talk) 06:41, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, plenty of coverage to pass GNG: 1990 (Times-Leader), 1991 (Times-Leader), 1991 (Citizens' Voice), 1997 (Post-Standard), 2001 (Times-Leader), 2002 (Citizens' Voice), 2012 (Times-Leader), etc. @Papaursa, Lekkha Moun, and 162 etc.: BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:17, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, yes he's being written about, but is it anything actually notable?

1990 - Suspended from high school football team

1991 - Excelled at high school track meet

1997 - Won a low-level boxing match

2001 - Signed an AFL contract (nb: ultimately did not play)

2002 - Charged after allegedly punching a DEA agent

2012 - Scheduled for upcoming low-level MMA event

Does that mean he should be in an encyclopedia? What exactly is his claim to notability? 162 etc. (talk) 17:24, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, he received a "bloody beating" according to that 1997 article. According to boxrec.com he lost both of his pro boxing fights. That coverage was essentially a report in a Syracuse paper on a bottom of the card fight in Syracuse. Otherwise, all of the other sources are from two Wilkes-Barre papers where he lived. None of which appear to be notable coverage, plus multiple references from the same source count as 1 source (at most). Competing in amateur MMA fights has never shown WP notability. Still not seeing WP:GNG, or any SNG, being met. Papaursa (talk) 22:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whether you think that his accomplishments are insignificant is irrelevant; whether he meets the MMA SNG is also irrelevant – the only factor that goes into determining notability at this point is whether the coverage is significant. That's it. GNG makes no mention of "exceptions" on if the coverage is for MMA fights – the only thing that matters is if there's "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Feature stories like this are clearly SIGCOV and being local is irrelevant (not to mention there was other articles I didn't list, including a few stories from Texas). He meets GNG – he's notable. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:08, 12 November 2024 (UTC)\[reply]

There are millions of articles on people in small town papers who aspire to be professional singers, athletes, actors, etc. Even though they never succeed, you're claiming that coverage is sufficient to show WP notability? Or are you influenced because he has notable brothers (which should have no impact on his notability)? I never claimed MMA notability was required, but some kind of achievement is, or at least coverage that is more significant than millions of others in the world have received. Papaursa (talk) 21:02, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are millions of articles on people in small town papers ... you're claiming that coverage is sufficient to show WP notability? According to WP:GNG, significant coverage is sufficient. The notability guidelines mention nothing of excluding coverage for accomplishments if one (arbitrarily) deems them as insignificant. Additionally, I don't think that there's "millions" of people who "never succeed in their aspirations" who receive feature stories in moderately large newspapers in several states across the U.S. (Texas, Pennsylvania, New York, etc.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Passes GNG. The first few of BeanieFan11's sources look like they're from high school but the others look okay. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 00:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes WP:SIGCOV based on the sources provided by Beanie. There’s sufficiently detailed press coverage across time to meet our general notability guidelines. SNGs like the one on MMA are only one pathway to notability, and those guidelines are not meant to replace and subvert GNG. Also, any article meeting GNG in athletics will meet WP:SPORTSBASIC which this article does.4meter4 (talk) 16:15, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The sources are problematic. The 'Times Leader' is the 'Wilkes-Barre Pennsylvania Times Leader', a local newspaper. Similarly The Citizen of Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. The Syracuse Post Standard is similarly not the New York Times. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Robbie Widdows

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 05:56, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Other than the types of sources like the one cited in the article, nothing comes up to establish notability. Procyon117 (talk) 13:07, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some coverage, although none of it is spectacular: Hartfield Gazette, Western Daily Press, Ealing & Action Gazette, Ruislip and Northwood Gazette. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Luc Peters

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 05:55, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment unlike the many other darts players that came here because of mass-rejected prods, this person actually has news articles about him and not just a place in stats databases like the others. [14] [15]. I'll comment back with a !vote once I finish my WP:BEFORE. Molecular Pilot 06:42, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's just routine reporting of him getting a tour card. 20-30 players do this annually. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 12:10, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. A search in google news found 2 relevant sources but they are from darts related media. LibStar (talk) 00:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ekaterina Ovcharenko

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Fails notability and significant coverage criteria. Tennis player who has never won a main draw title, never played in a Grand Slam tournament main draw, never been ranked in the top 250 in the world and no significant coverage of her is included in the sparse references. Shrug02 (talk) 12:53, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - In tennis, the criterion is that a player must have competed in the main draw of one of the top professional tournaments (WTA Tour tournaments (WTA Finals, WTA 1000, WTA 250 or WTA 250 events)) and have won at least one championship. Winning a WTA Challenger level tournament or any of the ITF W50, W75, or W100 tournaments starting in 2023 ($50,000+ between 2008 and 2022, $25,000+ between 1978 and 2007) or any WTA 125K tournament. This rule applies to both singles and doubles players. Player!!! The player She won Open Andrézieux-Bouthéon 42 ITF W75 Tournaments. As a result, this player meets the criteria.User:Vecihi91 12:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you know all this then why don't you add the content and citations to prove it? Even if what you say is the case (and I have no reason to say it isn't), then at the moment the article still lacks significant coverage references. Shrug02 (talk) 10:44, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails to meet WP:SIGCOV. SlowPokesB (talk) 16:57, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Mohammed Awaji

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Deleted before. No indication of meeting WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Created by notorious sockpuppet user and block evader. Geschichte (talk) 12:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:56, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Davy Richardson

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 08:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 22:33, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Significant coverage here. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:56, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That source may count but would need mulitple sources to establish notability. LibStar (talk) 05:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Radka Zelníčková

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Does not meet notability or significant coverage criterias. Shrug02 (talk) 22:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – I found this article but it doesn't seem to be enough. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:15, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - She won first W40 now W50 title at the doubles tournament in Pazardzhik Cup. meets the criteria.User:Vecihi91 14:50, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is like a club cricket or football team winning a local league. Also there is still the lack of significant coverage issue. Shrug02 (talk) 14:32, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~ - In tennis, the criterion is that a player must have competed in the main draw of one of the top professional tournaments (WTA Tour tournaments (WTA Finals, WTA 1000, WTA 250 or WTA 250 events)) and have won at least one championship. Winning a WTA Challenger level tournament or any of the ITF W50, W75, or W100 tournaments starting in 2023 ($50,000+ between 2008 and 2022, $25,000+ between 1978 and 2007) or any WTA 125K tournament. This rule applies to both singles and doubles players. Player!!! As a result, this player meets the criteria.User:Vecihi91 12:10, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you know all this then why don't you add the content and citations to prove it? Even if what you say is the case (and I have no reason to say it isn't), then at the moment the article still lacks significant coverage references. Shrug02 (talk) 10:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails to meet WP:SIGCOV. SlowPokesB (talk) 16:58, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I found routine match reporting like Teraz and Sportky but this is not enough for WP:GNG. Failing GNG is far more relevant than a weak NTENNIS pass. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@asilvering How much more thorough and clear does it need to be? After a week 4 people say it fails significant coverage and just 1 says "keep" but fails to back that opinion up by adding anything to an article which indeed clearly fails WP:SIGCOV. What is the point of the AFD process? I've had articles with far more citations deleted yet these tennis ones seem like the holy grail that must not be touched no matter how poorly sourced or non-notable they are. Prediction time - "keep due to no consnsus" will be the eventual outcome. Waste of time. Shrug02 (talk) 00:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shrug02, we regularly relist discussions where opinion is divided and this was just a first relisting. It's more important to get this discussion closed right than quickly. What's the hurry? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz I gave you my full answer on your talk page. All I will add here is that opinion is not divided. One editor is saying keep to all these tennis AFDs, even going as far as to unilaterally close one as "keep" while all other opinions are for delete. The aforementioned editor has opposed PROD and AFD without actually adding any significant coverage to any of the articles and just aggressively quotes tennis rules, votes multiple times and lists minor tournaments as justification for keep. So in conclusion there is no hurry, I am simply frustrated that one person is being allowed to filibuster the process when if you actually look at the articles in question they clearly fail to meet the required standard. Shrug02 (talk) 11:01, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete While Zelnickova won 1 W40 (now a W50) doubles tournament, WP:NTENNIS is a part of the global sports notability guideline and its FAQ at Wikipedia:Notability (sports)/FAQ says: "The topic-specific notability guidelines described on this page do not replace the general notability guideline". WP:GNG requires multiple independent, significant coverage in reliable sources. I don't see that, either in my searches or the article here. Everything that comes up can be categorized either as passing mentions in the scope of something else or just routine match recaps (mostly local coverage in Slovakian tournaments). Generally, it's very tough to get significant coverage based on just winning low-tier doubles tournaments in a predominantly singles sport - and this case (along with others nominated right now) proves it yet again. She might get there in the future, but as of right now, it's WP:TOOSOON. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 12:27, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marshall James

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 18:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: as a former WDF World Championship runner-up and World Masters semi-finalist, there appears to be a great deal of significant coverage of the subject in Welsh (Llanelli Star, South Wales Echo) and other (Liverpool Echo, Aberdeen Evening Express) papers, but a lot of it is hidden behind a paywall. If I can get access to these papers later in the week I'll assess the coverage and update my vote; if anyone else has access to them it may be worth a look. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 18:52, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Registering a keep vote in light of the below comment, but will update further if I get granted access to the newspaper archive for the aforementioned articles. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 21:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Significant coverage here and although my BNA access has expired, here's a story titled "Top of the World: Marshall James", which is almost certainly sigcov. He was second-best at the world championships! BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:01, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is a six paragraph article that summarises a six year career really "significant coverage"? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 21:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is a 300+ word article on the then-second-best darts player in the world, as well as what appears to be a feature on 'Top of the World: Marshall James', count for notability? Of course it does. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You keep describing him as being the "second-best darts player in the world" and this is just categorically not true. Are you seriously suggesting he was better than Phil Taylor? Two articles do not make significant coverage, especially when one of which you have admitted you have no idea what it even is. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 23:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You keep describing him as being the "second-best darts player in the world" and this is just categorically not true. – I'll admit I'm not super familiar with darts, but didn't James finish as the runner-up at the World Championships? Wouldn't being runner-up at the World Championships be second best in the world? And two articles can absolutely be significant coverage; the general notability guideline says that's all that's required for notability (two pieces of coverage). What do you think the odds are that a story titled, "Top of the World: Marshall James", is not significant coverage? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:11, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He finished runner-up at a (not the) World Championship and then proceeded to do absolutely nothing of note ever again. Does a darts player from Llanelli having potentially one article in a Llanelli newspaper, and a six paragraph article on a darts website, really count for notability? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 00:00, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Does having significant coverage from two independent outlets for a runner-up at a World Darts Championship count for notability? Absolutely if you go by GNG, which only requires two significant sources. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, to keep up-to-date. That's one "significant" source. And one source you freely admit you haven't read. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 00:37, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We're allowed to use common sense. The odds that both the 'Top of the World' source is insignificant and that there's no further coverage of him anywhere is incredibly small, especially given that Ser! has found paywalled articles in four additional newspapers. That you're unable to answer whether you've done any sort of WP:BEFORE search at all for over one hundred darts articles you've rapidly nominated or proposed for deletion is concerning as well. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:04, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nice personal attack there. Not content with doing it on my own talk page you now choose to do it here too! All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 01:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pointing out that you've refused on three occasions to answer the basic question of whether or not you've done a BEFORE search is not a personal attack... BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You assuming that I haven't, and constantly repeating the claim, is a personal attack. What on earth makes you think I haven't? Because you found that the British library has an article in the Llanelli Post about him from 27 years ago? 🤣 All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 09:02, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ItsKesha: What on earth makes you think I haven't? – because I asked "Are you doing any sort of WP:BEFORE search at all?" – and you responded that the articles are old, and then I asked "Are you doing any sort of WP:BEFORE search at all?" – and you responded that I need to AGF – and then I asked "Are you doing any sort of WP:BEFORE search at all?" – and you told me to get off your talk page – and then here you called it a personal attack, and when asked ... you responded that "What on earth makes you think I haven't? 🤣" – this absolute refusal to answer the question while nominating / proposing hundreds of articles for deletion is disruptive. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK 👍 All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 01:14, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is the entirety of the BNA article, content on James bolded:
[D]arts ace Marshall James added another trophy to his impressive collection recently - after winning a world championship. Marshall was a member of the Wales short man squad that won the world championship in Perth, Sydney, recently. Another player from the area Eric Burden was also in the side with the others being Sean Palfrey of Newport and Martin Phillips from North Wales. With 35 countries taking part Wales beat a star studded England side in final by nine legs to six. Wales came away with three gold medals and one bronze. Marshall lost in the semi-final of the Embassy Gold Cup singles on Saturday to world number 1 Mervin King 2-1. Another Welsh player Shaun [sic] Palfrey went on to take the title beating King 2-0 in the final. Marshall was recognized for his achievement this week when he was chosen as winner of the Walter Hughes Cup, one of the Brin Isaac Memorial Fund awards.

I'm not convinced ~4 sentences in an un-bylined hyper-local blurb announcing his darts competition results for that week counts toward GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 18:15, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral - My main concern here is that DartsNews is not obviously a reliable source and some work needs to be done to establish whether it is or isn't. My real sticking point on any bio article is "can we write a reliably-sourced encyclopaedia article, and not simply a database-entry, about the subject", and if Dartsnews is reliable then probably we can. BeanieFan11 - any views on this? FOARP (talk) 10:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I really need to figure out how to get re-subscribed to the BNA; there appeared to be a decent bit of coverage there (highly likely enough to write a reliably-sourced encyclopaedia article, and not simply a database-entry, about the subject, I'd say)... As for Dartsnews, they appear to have an editing staff. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep - Mostly just on AGF, give-keep-a-chance grounds. DartsNews gives sigcov but feels like a peripheral source even if it is a WP:NEWSORG. There is no BIO equivalent of WP:AUD and local coverage shouldn't be excluded entirely, so I see no reason to dismiss coverage just because it was in a Llanelli newspaper, but it is also borderline for WP:SIGCOV. The real question for me is "can we have an article that isn't just sports-stats", and we just about can. Since the internet archive is now working again (albeit slow) I did a little search there and I see that, except for mentioning him a couple of times when discussing other players, he isn't listed in this book about the top 50 darts players, so I think that safely answers the question of how great this guy was. FOARP (talk) 22:33, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: How's that search for Welsh sources going? Anything further?
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Delete: There's a Welsh rugby player with the same name... I don't see anything about a darts player. The few sources given in the comments above aren't extensive coverage. I don't think we have enough to use for an article. Oaktree b (talk) 02:06, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Right, a follow-up on these sources: I've found a good few articles about him in Welsh newspapers - South Wales Echo, Llanelli Star, longer piece in the Llanelli Star about subject, coverage of him being fined as a pub landlord - not really related to darts but it does describe him reaching "national fame" and it's hard to think a random unnotable would get this exact coverage, article in same paper about him getting a new manager, South Wales Evening Post covering a match he played in (more than WP:ROUTINE as it goes in more depth than just the results and interviews the subject), further coverage in same paper of his World Championship run, and then a few profiles/further mentions in the context of his time playing in the World Championships. Add to that the DartsNews article above and I think there's well enough coverage to justify us having an article on a former world championship runner up. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 09:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ri Myong-jun

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 01:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Redirect to 2007 FIFA U-17 World Cup squads#North Korea as WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 02:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep Bits around and more on the web to digest, I found little bits with [16], [17], youtube, [18]. There appears to be more sources around on the internet about him which I can't be bothered to go through. The nature of his career shows there was interest in him and some reporters have picked up on that and reported it. You just need to go looking, an extensive WP:BEFORE hasn't been done here in my opinion. Govvy (talk) 09:07, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Considering that information about these North Korean players is almost impossible, here at least we have something. I'm going to withdraw my vote, I don't know if it's enough for WP:SIGCOV, but let's expand the discussion. Svartner (talk) 00:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of the four sources, only the first seems to be decent. Source #2 is primary, Source #3 is against WP:LINKSTOAVOID, while Source #4 is a brief mention in match report. None of them pass WP:GNG in my opinion. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 16:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:08, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per my reply to Govvy and Svartner. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 16:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - @GiantSnowman:, @Svartner:, I found [19], [20], and [21] among other sources which is decent for a North Korena player. Definitelyy has offline North Korean sources too. One of few North Korean players to have played professionally for a few European clubsm and has 5 goals in 9 games for the national team. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 08:56, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why do people often say good sources for a North Korean footballer like the bar is lower for some reason? The nationality of the player isn't relevant and then also speculating about the apparent existence of offline sources. Simione001 (talk) 20:53, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why do people often say good sources for a North Korean footballer like the bar is lower for some reason? – do you understand the situation of media in North Korea? Do you realize that they don't have real media? Why should they be treated with the same strictness as those from countries with extensive media? BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:30, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Simione001 I think you do a good job filtering these articles from North Korean players since the majority are in fact unable to be kept. But it is valid when something comes up to establish the minimum coverage. There is a little more tolerance throughout the context of the country's regime, where there is no independent media. Svartner (talk) 14:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Could we get an assessment of the recently found sources? Unfortunately, we have the same guidelines for notability regardless a subject's nationality. The rules can bent but that would involve you persuading other editor's to your assessment of suitability of the existing sources.
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Delete. Nowhere even close to SIGCOV in IRS sources! If someone doesn't get coverage because their location doesn't have the reliable sources or media interest to report on them, they are not notable, regardless of level of achievement. WSC magazine has a trivial mention

. Socceroos is a league website, not independent of its players (or their opponents), and is also a trivial mention

. A Sky Sports interview some random person copied and posted on YouTube is primary, non-independent, and probably violates copyright somewhere

. The website for a football tournament is obviously not independent of its participants, and anyway the coverage is a trivial, primary passing mention in a match play-by-play

. Some dude's personal football blog is clearly not RS and absolutely unacceptable for a BLP

. An interview with FC Vestsjælland's director is not independent or secondary

. Nor is an interview with their head coach

. Even if there were two articles in there that actually had IRS SIGCOV, the subject would still fail SUSTAINED, as everything is related to the single event of him having a trial run with the Danish club. JoelleJay (talk) 04:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]