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Frank Ori[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of this American football player to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTSPERSON. The most I did find was a few sentences here, which is not totally unsurprising considering he was a replacement player who played three NFL games. JTtheOG (talk) 20:38, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, American football, Illinois, Iowa, and Minnesota. JTtheOG (talk) 20:38, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I can't find mentions of his playing career in newspapers or a Gnews search. I don't see notability based on a lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 22:39, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I couldn't find anything either on Newspapers.com. NewsLibrary used to have a lot stuff that wasn't on Newspapers.com but you have to pay now to even search for stuff. Hopefully, someone else has better luck but I'm not hopeful since he's an offensive lineman. Pre 2022, I would normally just vote Keep since Ori is someone who played in real games, not just preseason or practice squad. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 01:31, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I'm thinking that this guy may have been a replacement player who played as a result of the 1987 NFL player's strike? If so, that could explain the lack of coverage for him. Ejgreen77 (talk) 11:46, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daren Streblow[edit]

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Highly promotional article (more in the history) of a non-notable comedian. Not a single acceptable secondary source proving notability is included and I can't find any--it's all announcements and links to his podcast on Google (including News and Books). This is the best I can find. Drmies (talk) 21:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. Kablammo (talk) 11:42, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Radio, and Minnesota. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:32, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per the original nomination, he seems famous to some degree but little notability Wiiformii (talk) 02:41, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails both WP:GNG and WP:ENT. — YoungForever^(talk) 22:58, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Minnesota–Penn State football rivalry[edit]

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This was soft deleted earlier this year and recreated, however the previous rationale for deleting this article remains, in that there is a lack of WP:SIGCOV from reliable secondary sources to meet the WP:NRIVALRY or WP:GNG. Don't think this qualifies for a speedy deletion, so bringing it to AfD. Let'srun (talk) 20:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Nom has the right of this; there's nothing here that indicates this is a notable rivalry. Fails WP:SIRS so fails WP:GNG. UtherSRG (talk) 21:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as a general practice, we have avoided sports rivalry articles unless there is a great deal of history and coverage. To me, this one doesn't meet muster or spirit for inclusion. I encourage enthusiastic editors to try another wiki such as an online sports almanac for details like this.--Paul McDonald (talk) 18:32, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. Kablammo (talk) 19:56, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails GNG as a non-notable football series. Even though the teams have a traveling trophy, that does not guarantee a "rivalry" article. There is no significant coverage of these two teams as being rivals. Frank Anchor 18:56, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and Rename to Governor's Victory Bell. The trophy and series between the teams is notable and meets GNG per the sources below (and others), which have been written regularly since the trophy was first awarded in 1993. The sources specifically call out the trophy's creation with regards to Penn State's membership in the Big Ten, a conference well known for a multitude of trophies.

There is no requirement that a Wikipedia article on the history of competition between two teams must be a capital-"R" RIVALRY. An article can be written about a series or a trophy, assuming it meets GNG and the significant coverage goes beyond WP:ROUTINE recaps of the games, which the sources above do. PK-WIKI (talk) 19:42, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These references all basically explain that the trophy is awarded to the winner of the game, surrounded by other WP:ROUTINE coverage (such as a pre/postgame report or a list of other traveling trophies). It does nothing to describe a rivalry between the two teams, and a traveling trophy is not inherently notable. In addition, if the article is kept, which I oppose, I believe the name should stay as is; articles about other college football games played for a traveling trophy are named "X-Y rivalry" and not after the trophy. Frank Anchor 20:18, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The references don't need to describe a rivalry between the teams, as there is no requirement that teams must be "rivals" to write a Wikipedia article about their notable series or trophy. The references above do provide significant, non-routine coverage of the trophy and series, making this article an easy keep under the name Governor's Victory Bell.

There are plenty of series listed at List of NCAA college football rivalry games where the article takes the name of the trophy, such as Wagon Wheel (trophy), Governor's Cup (Kentucky), Jefferson-Eppes Trophy, Gansz Trophy, Victory Bell (Cincinnati–Miami), etc. Those are far better names than "...football series" in my opinion, in cases such as this where "...football rivalry" is perhaps inappropriate or "not a true rivalry".

PK-WIKI (talk) 20:49, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Still a non-notable series. The presence of a traveling trophy and the routine coverage you mentioned earlier does not change that. Frank Anchor 01:15, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Selective TV, Inc.[edit]

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Subject lacks the necessary coverage to meet the WP:NCORP. A 2010 AfD closed as no consensus but notability thresholds have changed significantly in the past 14 years. Let'srun (talk) 21:40, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Companies, and Minnesota. Let'srun (talk) 21:40, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Alexandria, Minnesota#Television: this is probably the best available alternative to deletion here (the most substantive content, the table of stations, is basically already there), though given that this article is about a non-profit corporation and not necessarily the stations themselves I do not oppose outright deletion as a NCORP failure either. Even the long-abolished separate and looser inclusion standards for broadcast stations eventually frowned upon giving relays of other stations or national services (which is all Selective TV's stations do) articles for lack of separate notability. The "keep"s from 2010 don't appear to be what would be considered as "policy-guideline based" today, largely relying on the "FCC-licensed broadcast stations are presumed notable" stance that was finally put to bed after this 2021 RfC that pivoted to requiring significant coverage — but as this article really falls under NCORP rather than GNG, it falls under stricter standards that don't count purely-local or most trade coverage toward notability (and the lone "delete" from the 2010 nomination, noting the lack of SIGCOV, does express a view that is more in line with 2024 standards than was usually seen in the broadcasting topic area 14 years ago). In the end, this is a remnant of the looser standards of 2010 — and the "no consensus" suggests that any perceived "notability" was the bare minimum at most. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:09, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Neal Potter[edit]

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Biography of a politician, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NPOL. The notability claim here is that he was a county executive, which is not an "inherently" notable role that guarantees a Wikipedia article -- it's a role where he would have to pass the second clause of NPOL ("local political figures"), where the inclusion test hinges on the depth and volume of reliable source coverage about him that can be shown to support an article with. But except for one obituary upon his death, this is otherwise referenced entirely to primary sources that are not support for notability, with no other reliable or GNG-building sources shown.
As his career was several decades ago and thus might not Google well, I'd be perfectly happy to withdraw this if somebody with much better access to archived Arlington-area media coverage from the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s than I've got can find enough to salvage it -- but nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have better referencing than this. Bearcat (talk) 11:02, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Bearcat: Try https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/ > https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/partners/27/ > his name in Maryland newspapers. The Frederick News-Post seems to carry the most coverage, with hundreds of articles. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep -- based on his position as a county executive, I expected to give a delete opinion as that's the normal outcome for such roles. But a staff-written obituary in the Washington Post suggests he was considered notable beyond the typical holder of such a position. The other details (Plaza named for him) wouldn't generally be enough on their own, but together with the obit pushes above the bar for GNG keep. (would not pass WP:PROF on its own). -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 19:23, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arlington County is literally suburbs of Washington DC, so the existence of a staff-written obituary in the Washington Post just suggests the exact same purely local notability that any county executive in any county could always show, and is not in and of itself enough to singlehandedly determine that he's more notable than the norm. So we would need to see a hell of a lot more than just that alone. Bearcat (talk) 16:22, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed I thought of that, but the Washington Post is not a local newspaper in the same way that say that Arlington Sun-Gazzette is. It was written by their same obituary staff as their other obituaries. I think that a look at their current obituaries will show that obituaries in the paper are dedicated to people whom they believe have more than local notability. I don't see, for instance, other local officials or former high school sports coaches there, except in the paid death notices section. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 22:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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delete I live in the county, and I only recognized the name on a "that rings a bell" basis. He lived, he was county executive, he did county exec things, he retired, and he died. I just don't see the notability; I'm sure he was competent (or else he surely would have an article!) but the language of his term is that of press releases, which argues he did nothing that attracted greater notice. Mangoe (talk) 10:25, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would also point out that the Post and the Times are the de facto local papers of the area given the demise of almost all the county level papers, but in any case they would report such an obituary as a matter of record. Mangoe (talk) 10:28, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Minnesota Proposed deletions[edit]

Asp Lake (via WP:PROD on 9 September 2023)
Bohall Lake (via WP:PROD on 9 September 2023)
Boot Lake (Cass County, Minnesota) (via WP:PROD on 9 September 2023)