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Editors that don't provide an edit summary tend to look like vandals

I have noticed you commonly don't enter an edit summary as you didn't when you edited The Sims Stories (see this edit). This causes me problems. When I patrol for vandalism, I use the summary to make a preliminary decision on whether or not the post is a vandal edit or not. If the summary is present (or at least a section header, the part inside the /* */), I commonly decide the edit is legit and move on.

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• Speedy ALTON .ıl 07:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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• Rectified ALTON .ıl 07:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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• Delete ALTON .ıl 07:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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• I just edited it ALTON .ıl 07:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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• AFC ALTON .ıl 07:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Beija-Flor Jeans

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Made through AFC ALTON .ıl 01:14, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

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Speedy it ALTON .ıl 02:12, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Infobox Guitarist

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• Not sure what my contrib to this was ALTON .ıl 07:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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It's a logo. Who else made it. ALTON .ıl 03:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

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Speedy it. ALTON .ıl 03:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

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• Rectified ALTON .ıl 07:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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• Just edited it ALTON .ıl 07:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Pics

When do you think you will be able to post the other pictures in the gallery. --Croc 02:41, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

What other pictures did you have in mind? I think I covered what people asked for in the talk page. z ε n  04:47, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Continued

• By "Name", do you mean "_____"? I use my name as my user name. So, in and of itself, I don't see a problem there. However, if you want to keep your real name private, that might be a violation of WP:HAR. In that case, it might be fair to remove your personal information, but it is still in page history -- not really gone. You might consider asking at the village pump, specifically in the policy section. Also, a list of user warning template is evolving at WP:UWT. We could use your input. The list I have doesn't yet show a replacement for {{pinfo4}}, which was used to warn against posting private information. You could suggest what the warning would read, when we should use it, etc.
• I do think you should add some summary to even minor edits. At least specify the type of edit. This could be "sp" (for spelling), "rm dated information" (rm for removed), or "grammar". Unfortunately, many vandals have found that clicking the Minor checkbox is really easy and fast. Hence, my recommendation. As it happens, your browser is trying to help you out. As long as you have a recent version of IE or Firefox, the subject/summary box should have a history section that appears as you type. Simply put, your browser tries to remember what you entered in that field before. If that is not enough, you should install Cacycle's wikEd wiki editing tool. It provides better toolbars than what are built-in to the normal edit page and Syntax highlighting. As a bonus, it also provides another way to quickly recall a standardized list of entries. I use wikEd, but not for the history part. That I rely on Firefox for.

Will (Talk - contribs) 05:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, great. I'll check that out AND remember to summarize from now on. z ε n 05:50, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Why are you attacking me!!!

Was it neccessary for you to write on the history page that I made numerous errors, you know that your work isn't perfect either, and stop trying to pick fight.

This is a place of work and research. Using my name is are violating Harassment Policy. Modifying my talk page as well as modifying yours, modifying THS's, and modifying Twigs is unacceptable behavior. Removing your signature and not signing is also unacceptable. All this is according to Wikipedia's policy, so this cannot be construed as an attack. z ε n  03:07, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

THS

Thanks for the compliments, but I have a question regarding the edit summary box. What is it and who do I fill it in. Thanks once again. --Croc 03:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

On the edit page, there's a long input box above the "This is a minor edit" and "Watch this page" checkboxes. It reads "Edit summary (Briefly describe the changes you have made)" and that's what you do. Usually you put in "+history" or "sp", etc. See this guy Will who left Editors that don't provide an edit summary tend to look like vandals, that long warning for me on this page? z ε n  05:04, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Confirmation

I am also Alton at Wikimedia Commons. z ε n  07:03, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Étude Op. 25, No. 12

Please add more text to this article otherwise it will be deleted. --[|.K.Z|][|.Z.K|] 07:42, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok. z ε n  07:43, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

User page

You're addicted to Hua Yang Shao Nian Shao Nu too? You are my new favouritest person evar. -Pandacomics 15:07, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeh, it's hilarious! Thanks for all the (correct) info on the articles. z ε n  00:28, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Étude Op. 25, No. 10

Great series of Chopin articles. It looks like you got distracted from this, though. I think you need to at least add some stub-like text. The article shouldn't really be left like this. DavidRF 20:47, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot about that one! Thanks for amending the categories and cleaning up. z ε n  23:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Copyediting

I believe I've been on this talk page before, but I also noticed that you are a copyeditor. Just wondering, would you mind doing a full onslaught on the crappy prose in the Musical Career section of S.H.E? -Pandacomics 21:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I can work through it, in time. There's quite a lot! z ε n ♪ 01:42, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

TS2

Some of the cruft does need to be cleared out of the Sims articles. They seem to be an incredible magnet for it, and things like the Bella goth mystery really aren't that notable for someone interested in learning about the game. In the grand scheme of things Maxis has done very little to further it and its mostly been fan creation. I wouldn't object to any kind of clean-up and shortening of material which doesn't directly relate to The Sims 2 the game. So if the expansion/stuff/add-on section can be shortened, that would be good. As far as the Sex controversy it arose from custom content, so it I can see it being in there. But perhaps at the end (swap places with The body shop)--Crossmr 21:42, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Could use your clean up skills over at the TS2 Seasons article as well. I need to find the link to the game guide wiki where people can write about this stuff.--Crossmr 16:13, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm actually just about done, but it might not hurt for another set of eyes to go through. OFB still needs some heavy work as large sections of the article were giant lists. Pets actually isn't too bad. I think I'll create a page just for consistency but the game guide like trivia has been avoided in that article.--Crossmr 23:44, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

OFB is more an issue of refactoring a couple paragraphs. I did a lot of clean-up today so I was hoping someone else could take a stab at that. If you don't get a chance, I'll do it up.--Crossmr 04:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I transwikid the around the house stuff over to the wikibook. Some of the info is useful, just the level of detail isn't appropriate. You should go through that and have a look. You might have some game guide tips to go there too b:The Sims adding an interwiki link to wikibooks just takes adding a b: to the front if you need to do one btw, pretty handy.--Crossmr 05:04, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes wikibooks was basically made for that kind of detail. They have an entire Game guide section there. Wikipedia is for encyclopedic entries. You can do things like write instruction manuals or strategy guides on wikibooks. I left you a link there where you can view what I've sent over so far. It might be nice if we start a sister project to the sims 2 to create some play guides and what not over on wikibooks--Crossmr 05:10, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Of course. I think i'll post about it on the main TS2 article. I've mentioned that I was transwikiing some of the game guide like material there, but I should mention that perhaps we could get contributors to start adding that kind of stuff to the wikibook articles and even creating gameplay guides over there. It would tie in rather nicely.--Crossmr 05:48, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

They should put up a notice somewhere, like on the main game guide page there. Though really I'm not sure I see the issue with it. Even if its rejected content from here I don't see how thats an issue. I also see a discussion on the game guide talk page, but its very old. Almost a year at this point. I wouldn't get worried unless the talk flares up again there. Either way, there is mention of another wiki being designed specifically for it, and we've got a strict policy against having the material here on wikipedia (its covered under WP:NOT). We could have just removed it in accordance with policy, but we at least took the time to find it a proper home.--Crossmr 14:56, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Chicken (food)

Just wanted to say thanks for putting in the proper citing format for the chicken (food) article. I'm a fairly new user of wikipedia, so I don't know how to do all the formatting yet. I appreciate the help.--Grendlefuzz 14:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, no problem. z ε n .ıl 00:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!!

I award this Barnstar to Zen for being such a kind and generous person. You have a good heart!

Your recent comments on my talk page made me cry just a bit. Thank you for being so nice. It was most unexpected, especially in this world of trolls and vandals that we inhabit. You're awesome! :) - Alison^☺ 18:11, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Haha, it was merely a gesture of gratitude. Thanks again. z ε n .ıl 00:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Sims 2 Template

Thanks. I was thinking about doing something like that, ill get right on it. ♦^TH1RT3EN™ _{talk ♦ contribs} 00:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed up, though I'm not sure if it looks better that way, or on a new line. ♦^TH1RT3EN™ _{talk ♦ contribs} 00:57, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

The current style is for it to be centered, and it's really easy enough to read each section, so I'm going to revert. There's a lengthy discussion going on about consensus of the current "guidelines" for video game navboxes here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games#Navboxes_III:_Son_of_Navboxes. This includes sections, size, color, games included, etc. Voice an opinion if you prefer this type of style for the navbox. Thanks! ♦^TH1RT3EN™ _{talk ♦ contribs} 02:13, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean by amorphous? Actually, lets discuss this at Template talk:The Sims series. ♦^TH1RT3EN™ _{talk ♦ contribs} 02:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the cookie! glad i could help ♦^TH1RT3EN™ _{talk ♦ contribs} 06:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Chopin Étude Op. 10, No. 7

Looks like you got distracted again. I love the Chopin series. Just a heads-up to fill in at least stub-level text before someone complains. DavidRF 21:40, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry, I don't mind, but I know some people are sticklers and might delete the articles and I don't know enough about Chopin to contribute myself. DavidRF 22:00, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

RE: I have a question

Hi Alton,

Sorrt if I have not replying my messages lately, I am knid of busy updating information on Wikipedia articles. Well, I am so keen on adminship for several reasons. The biggest reason of all is that through RfAs, I can understand how other users is valuing me, and how they think of me. The other reason is that I really want to have the responsibility of an administrator. I will be willing to do chores, and maintain Wikipedia, especially protecting vandalism, and blocking vandals.

 Smcafirst | Chit-Chat  posted at 20:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Strategy games

Hello Alton.

WikiProject Strategy games has finished it's first collaboration: Risk (game) (). We are now asking for nominations and input for a new one. Please voice your ideas at the talk page.

Clyde (talk) and WikiProject Strategy games.

Wikipedia:WikiProject Strategy games

Hello Alton.

WikiProject Strategy games finished it's first collaboration on Risk (game). We have voted for possible candidates for the next collaboration, and three finalists have been selected:

1. . Stronghold (2001 game)
2. . Age of Empires
3. . Age of Empires II

If possible, please vote here on which of these articles to collaborate on. Thank you.

WikiProject Strategy games

Bella Goth

I'd support a deletion. We're not a TS2 fansite.--Crossmr 06:08, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Chromaticism and Diatonic and chromatic

Hi Alton. I have read your note at Talk:Chromaticism, and also your other long note. Your concerns certainly overlap with mine. So much is unsettled and poorly understood in the terminology of music theory! This is very evident at Wikipedia, especially when different academic cultures and different "dialects" come into collision. I have now put a cross-referencing link at each of our articles, since there is an obvious connection. I do hope you will contribute at Diatonic and chromatic, where something is still needed on the various understandings of the term chromaticism, and related matters. Call on me also, if you think I may be able to assist in any of your projects around Wikipedia. Best wishes to you!

– Noetica^♬♩ Talk 03:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your note in reply, Alton. I hope you will still look in at Diatonic and chromatic, no matter what self-deprecating assessment you make of your own abilities in the area. In fact, a fresh view from those who are less set in their thinking is often very useful. Thanks for your leads to the other editors. I may well pursue them.

– Noetica^♬♩ Talk 04:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Fantaisie-Impromptu

I'm not sure whether it was composed meticulously or on the spot. Graham87 05:14, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Maybe parts of it were based on Chopin's improvisations. I don't know much about the piece. Graham87 05:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

reply

Hey, alt, I knew about cite-web but I just found it to be too tedious. It was too much effort to move the cursor X spaces after typing/pasting each attribute, but thanks for the congrats. - Pandacomics 05:32, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Kzrulzuall RFA

Please consider moving the quotes you have found to the discussion page for the RFA as they take up a lot of room. KazakhPol 20:49, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Kzrulzuall. Thanks for the prompt response. KazakhPol 20:56, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

d-addicts frustration and hanakimi

Now I understand why you were so upset the first time you saw the Hua Yang Shao Nian Shao Nu article, only to realize that it was copied and pasted verbatim. I wrote a nice paragraph on Hanakimi on the S.H.E article, only to have it ripped verbatim onto the Fahrenheit article. They had no idea how long it took me to find those sources. It was like, oh, this looks good, I'll just take it for my own thing. Ugh. -Pandacomics 00:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Back Dorm Boys. After all, I did save it from deletion. (See the talk page, haha). - Pandacomics 15:47, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

HYSNSN

Well, no one's going to intentionally type in the umlaut, so either we keep the status quo, or make a redirect (despite the fact most pages link to the one w/o the umlaut. That can be fixed though.) - Pandacomics 06:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

There is actually an English name, if you look right under the words after Zen Me Ban plays: Hanazakarino Kimitachihe. - Pandacomics 12:45, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Preeeeeeeetty much. Want to do the honours? - Pandacomics 19:47, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

RE: comment on my Quality Image candidate

I just wanted to say thanks for the comment you left about my picture of the Book of Isaiah on the Quality images candidates page (a copy of it here). It was first (and last!) time I put a picture in for review. I found the whole process a bit disheartening. Anyway, I just saw your comment and I appreciate it. Cheers--Trounce 11:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Mhm, no problem. ALTON .ıl 01:36, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Chopin Etude Navbox

Hello, I experimented with left-justifying the columns of Template:ChopinÉtudes. I thought it looked better for the Op. 10 and Op. 25 columns and looked a little worse (but not that bad) for the Troisieme Etudes column. Check the file history and see what you think. Also, I hate the say it, but the picture should probably go. Pictures are a nice touch in navboxes, but it doesn't look like there is an easy way to have both a picture and the columns (see Template:Navigation#See_also). What you have done has created a large amount of whitespace that has made an already large navbox twice as big as it needs to be. I'll keep looking for better ways to get the picture in there, though, because the picture does look cool. DavidRF 15:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

IMSLP

Thanks for that very, very useful piece of information. Bencherlite 06:17, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Taiwan vs. ROC

I just revert it, but I use a variant of the WP:China proposal #3, which basically says when political, use ROC/PRC; otherwise use Taiwan/Mainland/HK. Basically, for a person's "country/region of origin", I go with the "legal entity" at the time. For example, Stalin wasn't born in "Georgia" but rather the "USSR." In this day and age, "Taiwan" is politically correctly known as "the Republic of China." So if you ask where Jay Chou is from, he is from the political identity known as the ROC. Where does he sing? Taiwan, because he's not based on Mainland China or Hong Kong. When regional differences exist as they do in music or dramas, then it's fine to use Taiwan. Example: Hong Kong Cinema vs. Taiwan Cinema. Hope it sounds good. - Pandacomics 12:33, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

University Logos

There are two reasons why I don't just upload over the old ones. First, they are often GIF files; I want to upload PNG files. Second, they are often named sloppily; I like to use descriptive naming scheme that is consistent across images.

I think fair use rationales are a waste of time. I realize that including them is policy, but in practice most images don't have them and those that do often have silly ones. The whole concept is flawed, in my opinion, so I'm not going to bother. If the image police want to delete good images simply because a rationale is missing, then fine—though you'd think someone who believed in rationales that deeply would be willing to fill it in themselves. Punctured Bicycle 10:11, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

re: Beethoven comp's list FLC

thanks for the note... yeah, I figured I'd re-submit it soon, but I thought I'd wait til I could flesh out the Hess-catalog section a bit more... that involves a library trip so it might be a week or two before I can get it done... cheers, —Turangalila talk 17:53, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Welcome template

... at User:Alton/Welcome. I am sorry, but I stuck a level 3 warning on it just now by accident. Consider yourself warned for vandalism!!! :) What happened was it was transcluded from a vandal editor's page without being subst'd and I clicked the 'edit' tab, went to your page, and plastered in a warning. Oops! Forgive me ... - Alison ☺ 07:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

• *snicker* :) - Alison ☺ 07:13, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Yamaha Motorcycle Afd

I'm sorry if I offended you Alton, it was not my intention, especially as it's now obvious to all that though misguided, you acted in good faith. I'm also heartened by the dignified manner in which you have conceded your ground... many Wikipedians could learn from this. Hopefully the whole Afd issue will be deleted soon, along with my comments. Regards...playbike 08:38, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: the barnstar

Thanks! "I'd like to thank the Academy..." =D --Dynaflow babble 05:33, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Swami X

Just a note in response to your comment on "articles for deletion" in the talk section for the above article. My note pertained to a persistent vandal posing as an administrator who repeatedly deleted initial versions of the article without explanation and without following any protocol whatsoever. I had to file a formal complaint against him to get him to stop. The article was later nominated for deletion, which resulted in an "inconclusive" determination, but my comment in the talk section was not a complaint about that process. Elcajonfarms 18:01, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. You have to realize the similarities your comment shares with other passionate inclusive editors, and on passing by I noticed the comment; it wasn't entirely in context, so I should've researched. My mistake. ALTON .ıl 05:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Qian Zhijun

You commented on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Qian Zhijun. It has been closed early after a confusing and IMO unfortunate sequence of events. I have now listed it on Deletion Review. You may wish to express your views there. DES ^(talk) 01:41, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

There are users with stronger interests in it than I. ALTON .ıl 05:06, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Films

About Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Today#(Untitled) Tyrone Power—would you mind if I placed the content there under Tyrone Power#Filmography (that is, replaced the section)? Are there any columns you think should be removed? Gracenotes^T § 23:50, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Your submitted content seems already to be appended to Filmography of Tyrone Power. I'm still not entirely sure what the nom at AFC was/is for. ALTON .ıl 04:27, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Russian cursive

Or perhaps get someone to make a better version, if they feel it's as bad as you do? I don't know a thing about it, either, and only found that version accidentally a few weeks back, but even if it's not perfect, I'm working on the basis of 'something's better than nothing'. If nothing else, it'll give a vague idea. And besides, everyone writes differently, so who knows, maybe it's close enough for some variation, if not a textbook-perfect learn-to-write-2007 version. Heck, even English cursive's changed several times over since I learned it... and that wasn't all that long ago. So while how I'd write the alphabet would no longer match books, I doubt anyone would tell me it's wrong. I can't imagine it's all that different for Russian. -Bbik 06:16, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Wait, there're things for teaching yourself languages over there, even if not entirely accurate? Cool! That just made my day.

And, comments like that point out that there's a mistake, not that it's unfixable. Admittedly, it wouldn't be saying the wrong thing if it weren't there at all, but hey, it was, and it was noticed, and fixed, and now it's that much more useful. If there's nothing there in the first place, it's less likely that it'll be noticed at all -- either no one will think to add it, or there's that much less to help someone. Mispronounce/spell a word, and sure, they'll know you're not native, but at least you're trying, and that counts for something.

As far as what the comments actually say, aside from 3, the rest sound to me like, well, comments. Simple suggestions for improvement, nothing derogatory or anything. I wouldn't worry about it so much. As far as I can tell, that's the point of Wiki in general, that it's a group effort, a work in progress, and as such, it's bound to have mistakes, from everyone. But it's also bound to have others come fix those mistakes (after they're done making their own! :-p).

Just don't go sticking the Greek alphabet in place of the Cyrillic (however off it may be), and I really can't see how it'd be that big of a problem. Unless someone has a major case of overreacting, and there's not much to do about that, unfortunately. Even if you avoid one situation, another will take its place, for something like that. So just don't look at that part of it, and deal with it when (IF) it comes. -Bbik 08:27, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Heh, you really didn't have to do that. But thanks. :) And, you asked. Just not directly. -Bbik 01:54, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Re:AFC

Thanks for you appreciation, I have seen you do a lot there. How that page works is there is the global page Wikipedia:Articles for creation and included in it is the page Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Today. At the end of the day, User:Jitse's bot, which is a program written and run by a user, moves Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Today to [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation/date]]. It then replaces Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Today by a blank page containing {{Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Daily header}}. Adding {{afc n}} seems like a good idea, you would have to request it as a feature on User talk:Jitse's bot, only the user running the bot can change the way it creates the page.--Jackaranga 08:58, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing Wikipedia:Articles for creation/2007-05-11 ! I had brought this issue up on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Problem on Wikipedia:Articles for creation/2007-05-11. Let's hope it doesn't happen again, may have to file a bug report if it continues to happen. I'm not sure that <ref> should take precedence over ~~~~, but it may be hard to fix, I'm not sure what the server parsing orders are. Unregistered users probably didn't understand what had happened, I guess they just thought their submission had been discarded.--Jackaranga 12:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Alton, thank you for your kind words in support of my RfA (I like to believe that I do, in fact, know stuff - although often much less than I think I do), which successfully closed yesterday. Please feel free to drop me a line any time if I can help you in any way. Pastordavid 14:58, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

Have a barnstar. Axl 19:21, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

		The Resilient Barnstar
		Alton, for your gracious and polite manner. Axl 19:21, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Huzzah! ;)

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		I award you, Alton, this Working Man's Barnstar for your tireless contributions to Wikipedia and to let you know that they are appreciated. -Seed 2.0

I hope you don't let the Yamaha AfD get you down. We're all just human and we all make mistakes. Cheers, -- Seed 2.0 21:26, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Feature Article candidate: Jay Chou

Greetings! From User:Phaedriel/Soundtrack of Wikipedians, it appears that you have an interest in the singer Jay Chou. The article regarding Jay Chou is currently nominated for Feature Article status. I would like to invite you to write a review to Support or Oppose granting Feature Article status to this article. Without your help to provide a review, this article may be removed from nomination. Please lend a hand and kindly leave your review comments here! SeleneFN 01:49, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your very constructive comments. I have now addressed each of your concerns for the article Jay Chou. Please check that these modifications are satisfactory, and reconsider Support or Oppose for the article's Feature status. Thank you. SeleneFN 04:49, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

USNews.com Links

I noticed that you removed links to USNews.com pages from University of California, San Francisco, citing that the site is on the "blacklist." I have been unable to find any reference to it on Wikipedia's blacklist pages, and it seems silly to leave the info and replace the reference with a "citation needed" note. USNews rankings are widely used in the media, by institutions being ranked, and are found throughout Wikipedia. Can you provide more info on this blacklisting? Thanks. WildCowboy 15:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I thought it was strange too. There must have been a bug, because last night while I was trying to append the Logo, the Spam Content Filter came up and wouldn't let me save the page, citing http://www.usnews as the text that triggered it. I didnt look it up, but I removed it because I wanted to finish my logo updates before I went to sleep. I've undone it. ALTON .ıl 22:37, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Infoboxes (Chopin Études/Ballades)

Given you were the one who spent most time improving these articles, I guess I should consult you first before starting any larger discussion.

Anyway given this furore over at WP:Composers over whether we should have infoboxes, I was wondering what your view is on whether classical compositions should have infoboxes. I see most of the Chopin Études and all 4 Ballades have infoboxes, but they seem to be absent from all other articles. Do you mind if we replaced the infobox with just a thumbnail of the music (a la Violin Concerto (Mendelssohn) - my own pet project) or would you rather they stay?

Hope to hear from you soon. Centy 10:37, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

You're right, the contentions there should apply here as well. I like the way the Mendelssohn looks, and judging from the arguments made on the Composer topic, infoboxes are equally worthless here. I would surely endorse removal of these blocks, also because they are not truly infoboxes, just messily constructed tables. ALTON .ıl 02:21, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Right, I'll set about tidying up the articles. Do tell me (or just edit the article yourself) if you feel I'm doing it wrong! Centy – – 10:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Yoghurt

Wow, you did a lot of work on that page. Just to let you know the reason I had only fixed two of the 6 citation needed template (and left in a bunch of crap), but focused more on the debate was because to some extent I figured rming the red links and taking out yoghurt would be controversial, and after the debate we'd have to discuss some of it on the talk page - but you left no room for controversy. I can't tell if you're an admin or not - but you deserve to be one with how high quality your edits are.danielfolsom 11:46, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

		The Editor's Barnstar
		Great work on the Yoghurt article - some of the best editting I've seen. danielfolsom 11:46, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

What he said. Kudos! --moof 23:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

of s.h.e and jay chou.

I feel like one against the world. Despite the fact that no other cpop article's quality is close, I can't be too sure anymore. Jay Chou already did that for me. BAH. (insert frustration) It's not my fault that they're incredibly MUCH harder to search on Google than Jay Chou. - Pandacomics 07:13, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Hanazakarino Kimitachihe

We're going to have to start disambiguating this soon, because the Japanese version of the drama is coming out next month with a very similar name (check dramawiki). Even though they'll be calling it "Hanazakari no kimitachi e," misspellings are going to come up. My suggestion is to have Hanazakarino Kimitachihe as the disambig, with the sub-pages "Hanazakarino Kimitachihe (Taiwanese drama)", "Hanazakari no Kimitachi e (Japanese drama)" and "Hanazakari no Kimitachi e (manga)." The other alternative would be to write something like "This is about the Taiwanese drama. For the Japanese drama, go to Hanazakari no Kimitachi e, for the manga go to Hana-kimi," on the top of each page (of course you switch around titles as you go along)- Pandacomics 20:45, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Haha, it was flawless because 1) people wanted to see Jay Chou featured, 2) the guys who approved it had some part in the editing process. - Pandacomics 04:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Photoshop

I don't have problems with your edits overall, just that one line I changed, for the reasons stated. Overall I like your edits. You're probably right on the usefulness of different images there. DreamGuy 19:52, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

DayToDie's edits today have been somewhat sloppy. He made Adobe Photoshop release history (a forking I agree with) redirect back to Adobe Photoshop, but he didn't move the table back into the article, and he left the {{main}} reference in place. Then, after I reverted that edit and complained on his Talk page, he put the table back into the main article (is he trying to spite me? or does he not understand English?) without explanation. If you have time, could you help put the smack down on this? I'm needed elsewhere. :)—mjb 00:24, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the correct course of intervention is at this point, but it would be a good time to do it. I'll keep reverting, for sure, but text threats frequently fall on unheeding ears. ALTON .ıl 04:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Pipes in disambiguation pages

I saw you enforcing the Manual of Style on the Scream page. I hope you have more luck than I did in trying to do the same on the PDF (disambiguation) page - I gave up trying to argue there, so it has two links to the same page, one with a pipe and one without! -- JediLofty ^{User ¦ Talk} 10:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I see the tribulation you face, and all I can say is wow. Sometimes I don't understand why some editors are so staunch about something, but then I realize that they're probably saying the same about me. Although, I am convinced that you are right, since his proposed revisions were redundant and the "questions" imposed on you aren't how this collaboration is supposed to be done. ALTON .ıl 21:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Chinese popular music taskforce

I don't know if you're occupied with a number of wikipedia articles lately, BUT. I would like to extend an invitation to join a potential C-pop taskforce. Preferably, it'd be a smallish task force focussing on working on one article at a time (i.e. article drives) so then it's less daunting, considering the sheer number of singers out there. I'm assuming you do quite a bit of work over at D-addicts, and you're a copyeditor, so...yeah. Even if you're only willing to copyedit the fanboy articles, that'd be super. Pandacomics 07:15, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

UCLA again

I need help with naming conventions. So according to the talk page, people are really passionate about using the full name. There's some inconsistencies between sub-pages like UCLA Library and List of University of California, Los Angeles people, so what would you suggest articles be standardized to? Specifically, I need a name for the forthcoming "History of ____" page (people seem to like those). ALTON .ıl 05:12, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

It should be the full name for article titles, for all the reasons I outlined during the last naming discussion, but redirects should definitely be set up right away to channel in searches for the abbreviated name. It should also be noted that, when spelling out the full name and then putting something else after it, a comma should follow the "Los Angeles," e.g., "University of California, Los Angeles, people." Even though it's not their fault, I will still blame Strunk and White for that awkward punctuation convention. I might actually move that page when I have time to fix its linking articles. Things to do, things to do... =) --Dynaflow babble 06:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

If that's the convention, then I'll do it, but it seems odd. Is this true even for well established articles like History of the United States? ALTON .ıl 04:48, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

"Los Angeles" is a parenthetic expression to "University of California," so it needs to be set off with commas. It's the same principle that would be at work in a sentence like, "The Cleveland, Ohio, waterfront is very fragrant." --Dynaflow babble 05:28, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Note: For future references, it is actually not Wikipedia convention to put a comma there (after "Los Angeles") in article titles. Someone already moved University of California, Los Angeles, history to the correct title a little while back, and I just did the same for University of California, Los Angeles, library system and University of California, Los Angeles, housing. Just letting you know : ). shoeofdeath 20:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your consideration. ALTON .ıl 01:42, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Template help

Me again. I have an idea, but I don't know how to do it. Here at Category:Articles for creation templates there are too many different templates basically saying the same thing. I want to consolidate all templates into one {{Afc decline}}, where if you use that and add a word the message will change, like so—

• {{subst:afc decline|blank}} would produce -> Declined. We cannot accept blank suggestions.
• {{subst:afc decline|blah}} would produce -> Declined. Your suggestion is blah.

and so on. There's about 25 of those different messages and I want there to only be one. Do I make any sense? ALTON .ıl 09:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

It seems like a good idea, but I'm not sure exactly how to implement it. I am also coming out of my second straight night of 24-hour-construction-site-next-door-based insomnia, so I'm not in any condition to initiate any experiments. Try asking Dispenser about this. He (I think I remember him or her being a "he") is really good with template coding, and seems to have an understanding of the underlying code of Template Space that I can't even come close to matching. At the very least, he should be able to point you in the direction of people who can put this thing together for AFC. --Dynaflow babble 14:00, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

UCLA history

Thanks. A problem is that, to my knowledge, there have been no institutional histories written about the UC system since the 1960s. (It seems everyone back then thought the free speech movement was the end of the university!) So, developments since then would definitely require extensive original research to put into effective context. Not that I'd mind, but I think I'm more likely to work with what's already there post-1969 than upload much more new content. What i think it needs are lengthly sections discussing the respective impacts of Prop. 13 and Prop 209, as well as a lengthy section summarizing UCLA's contributions to research, which would incorporate ARPANET, AIDS, Nobel winners, etc.

I have time for an editing binge at the moment, but might have to suddenly take off again. I suppose history has to end somewhere, but more information on the football team scandals, the parking placard one especially, might be interesting. Amerique^dialectics 20:52, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

AFC changes

You were a bit too WP:BOLD for my tastes. High-visibility/high-impact changes like this should be discussed and hammered out first. I've got some suggested changes, I'll post them on Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation where everyone can see. Please don't implement them until they've been discussed or a day or two goes by without any discussion. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 14:19, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

dude, you forgot something! (Space Mountain)

You completely forgot to link each SM to the others... if you did, it's not obvious. For example, you say on the Disneyland page "...florida version", but there's no link that I can see TO the florida version. Same with HK version. I think what you did needed to be done, but make sure that people who land on one of the SM pages can find the others. Cheers! SpikeJones 03:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I was just taking a break for a sec, but I'll get to that right right away. ALTON .ıl 03:49, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Space Mountain

That is interesting. My source was referring to the 1977 version. But like you I thought that they were identical in most respects and didn't expect so much difference in track length. Even though Disney's site may be wrong, I'd go with them as the authority on the subject.All I can say is WE WERE RIPPED OFF! LOL. Oh well at least freakishly long armed people wont hit their fingers anymore. --Monotonehell 11:01, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Now that I look at it, that's a whole 315 feet difference! We got gypped, big time.

Okay, but let's figure this out,

• UltimateRC - 3,450 feet ("Length:" as of 1977, "Fortunately, for fans of Space Mountain the new one will retain its original track layout.")
• Official Disney - 3,035 feet ("the distance of each SM voyage is..")
• RCDB - 3,459 feet (no notes)
• Laughing Place - 3,450 feet (It has only one track, but its length of 3,450 surpasses each of Walt Disney World's tracks.)

AH, I found the clincher:

• Ultimate Orlando - Length of track: Approx. 3,450 linear feet, including ride track, storage track and spur track - Length of ride: 3,035 ft. or .57 mile

There's your answer. And a couple more refs. So which one goes in the infobox? ALTON .ıl 23:46, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... well there you go. If we put either it would require a footnote. But the template doesn't allow foreign expressions, just a number in feet. Shall we leave it with Disney's number and put a harvard style dot point footnote in the references section? Since ride length is probably the more pertinent figure. --Monotonehell 04:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I like your solution. I don't really like the RC template, but I guess it makes everything standard. That was interesting, maybe other roller coasters have this sort of discrepancy as well, you think? ALTON .ıl 04:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Paptimus Scirocco

I agree that this article needs a lot of work, and I've made a few edits to make it look better, but I would not delete or redirect it considering the character's importance to Zeta Gundam. Although he fails to kill the protagonist Kamille Bidan, he manages to deliver a crippling blow to him. Shaneymike 14:18, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

It may be a very important character to Gundam, but that's the point: is it important to anything else? For inclusion, the article must meet the notability standards that hold universally, for all articles. The reason all Pokémon had an article was because they were cultural and media phenomena. ALTON .ıl 23:25, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Coaster Star
		I hereby award you the Coaster Star for your brilliant work on Roller coaster inversions, a throughly readable and well-written article. Seaserpent85Talk 18:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that appreciation, it's really encouraging to know there's support out there. Now that I've found the roller coaster niche in Wikipedia I like editing the articles there because it has a great community. You can tell on that particular article I kind of gave up at the last paragraph with references, but I'm still looking for motivation to expand it. I think you've provided that, thanks! ALTON .ıl 23:06, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Re-compilation of Wikipedia:WikiProject Composers Archives

Hi. I've just seen that you have been recompiling the archives of the Composers Project. I am not sure I understand why you have done that. (There is actually a note of the archives asking people not to edit them.) Can you possibly explain? Thanks. -- Kleinzach 09:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't think I've done a recompilation, but I could be mistaken. I added {{archive-nav}} to each page, and gathered the pertinent infobox discussions together. My edits should easily be reverted, if need be, but I created the Infobox Debate page as a way to highlight one of the more important discussions. ALTON .ıl 09:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Do the original archives still exist then? Is the 'infobox debate' a selection? (One potential problem is that the latter file is so large.) -- Kleinzach 11:41, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, they're all at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Composers/Archive 1, etc. Does the navigation box not show up on the current Talk page? Infobox debate is a new, independent page that is a duplication of all the discussions related to the infobox discussion. I made it because the original archives (which are still there) split the long debate over several different pages, with irrelevant discussions interspersed, making it difficult to track the discussion. I don't think length would be a problem, again I could be wrong, because it is, after all, an archive, and used just for reference. ALTON .ıl 22:57, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, I understand now. No problem. I was concerned because the original archives were referenced and I was also concerned that something might have been lost. False alarm! All the best. -- Kleinzach 00:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. ALTON .ıl 04:19, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

haha

About time someone created a page for Rene Liu. Hurrah for the Alton! Pandacomics 17:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

...and his not so many albums? Pandacomics 00:53, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Rachmaninoff

Hi Alton, I was delighted to see your nom, and I think you did a fine job with the article; its very close. I don't have training in music myself, but I found that people who have are very willing to help out. I'll help where I can; but a post to WP:CM and a request to editors like Chubbles will pay dividends. Ceoil 22:28, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Parkman-Webster murder case FAC

Done. Thanks for the clarification. — Itai (talk) 11:10, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

UC, LA

I answered your request on de. Cheers, Fossa_?! 17:23, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

what the eff.

Every time I put it up for FA I always encounter "that type" of editor who seem to be the most scathing people you ever encounter. Why didn't we see that for Jay Chou? Oh, I know why. Because when people like something enough, they support/oppose it early enough. Sadly, for this one, no one even gives two damns. So then I have to wait, and then comes the more scathing editors who critique it because they now have to. What the eff. If this doesn't pass, I'm never putting this up for FA again. Cause it's ridiculous. Every time I put it up, it's never good enough. Wtf. It's not like I'm INTENTIONALLY trying to make it crappy. Wtf. Whatever, I'm sure people on Wikipedia will be just DELIGHTED that this other piece of fancruft that I spent my soul on is stuck on GA. BAH. Screw them. Pandacomics 17:24, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

I totally feel your frustration, obviously to a lesser degree, but I do. I don't know what else there is to do, really. And all I can say is, don't quit. All the editors that quit in the past for a reason other than boredom was angry with the way that the system works, but that's the way it is and always will be. Honestly, if I say what I really want to say right here, either you or I will be marked as canvassing or cabal-ing or whatever they can pull up. I know I didn't do a fraction of the work you did on S.H.E on my article (which it is, even though WP:OWN, WP:COI, whatever), but after three half-FACs, it's going to be stuck at GA forever. I guess that's for a reason, but I can't fathom at all why something would be opposed for being too long. Especially something like this where the sum total of all English information of the subject is probably less than half of that on the entire internet.

I think this later editor is just out to make trouble, given several things I found odd about his contributions. Keep on truckin'. ALTON .ıl 18:48, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Translation

"His tremendous musical sensitivity was noted by relatives, and by the autumn of 1868, he was defined in a junior class at the Moscow Conservatory."--Miyokan 02:55, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Problem

HI there. Just saw you deleted that issue on my talk page. Did you get that resolved okay or should I take a look? - Alison ^❤ 23:28, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Music encyclopedia topics

Thanks for writing the article on Anatoliy Brandukov, who was on this list. Note that to mark him as done, you should create a redirect from the spelling on the page instead of piping a link. The name given is from Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians or a similar dictionary, and thus may be a common spelling variant that should redirect to the article page. (Russians in particular always have many ways of transliterating their names, and redirects are helpful to make sure links always point to the right place.) Also, you can actually just delete the item from the list as long as it meets a basic minimum standard, which this one certainly does. That way it doesn't need to be checked again to verify that it is relevant, and will automatically reduce the count of pages. If you have time and inclination, please write more articles from the list. I'm hoping to increase participation in the list and make progress in achieving more complete musical coverage in Wikipedia. Rigadoun (talk) 05:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me, I wasn't sure what that list was and I just wanted to link it up correctly. I've removed the entry from the list, and I suppose you've already created the redirect. Articles like these usually spring out of my diverted interests (I really wanted to get going on Cello Sonata (Rachmaninoff), but he was a key player and a red link, and his life was so interesting, etc. ) and are really more spontaneous than a conscious effort, but I'll help out in any way I can. ALTON .ıl 05:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Thespis

I'm afraid the full title is, in fact, "Thespis; or, The Gods Grown Old" - "The Gods Grown Old" is a subtitle, not an alternate title. Adam Cuerden ^talk 08:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Alright, as long as it's clear ALTON .ıl 20:01, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Anatoliy Brandukov on DYK

On 31 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Anatoliy Brandukov, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Cello Sonata (Rachmaninoff)

Sure go ahead with the move. Centy – reply• contribs – 12:52, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

The Documentary

Hi Alton, thanks heaps for reviewing the album. I appreciate you taking the time. I addressed your comments on the talk page and it should be alright now. Spellcast 03:35, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

GA passes

Hi there! I noticed you've passed a couple of good articles, such as John Wilkes Booth, The Documentary and Simple Kind of Life, but you don't seem to have added them to Wikipedia:Good articles. If you did, please disregard this note—I couldn't find them :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 16:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me, there's so much to do in that process it's hard to keep track of it all. ALTON .ıl 18:49, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

No worries. Best, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 19:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

DYK

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Cheers, Daniel 23:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Also wanted to let you know that the article was included in Veropedia. You can see it here. If you would like to recommend any more of your works to Veropedia, please let me or Moreschi know. Thanks, Danny 02:02, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Interesting. Well I would refrain from calling them "my" works, but thanks for letting me know :) ALTON .ıl 02:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Well Done!

Well done chap, you did make a good improvement with the article of Marié Digby! Good job! =) Darrencomp (talk) 01:41, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. You know the whole time during the concert I was thinking "Wikipedia" :) ALTON .ıl 09:44, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Question

How do you get your images for musical compositions like Scriabin's etude op 8 no 12? Would it be possible for you to upload the first two measures of Scriabin's etude op 42 no 5? Thanks  Stewy⁵⁷¹⁴talk 16:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

I used Finale 2007. I don't know about the engraving capabilities of it, but there is a free version with limited function available at the website. If you can give me a pdf or scan of the score I can do it, since right now IMSLP is down. ALTON .ıl 21:48, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

It stinks that IMSLP is down :( I already have Finale Notepad, and it doesn't have engraving capabilities. I found a Pdf link at [1]. It would be great if you could just get an image of the pickup and the first measure. Thanks!  Stewy⁵⁷¹⁴talk 01:30, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Here. Tell me if there is a mistake or if you have any more requests, I'd be happy to oblige. ALTON .ıl 01:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Incredible. It's exactly what I needed. I'll probably come back some time in the future if I need something else. Thanks for responding so quickly!  Stewy⁵⁷¹⁴talk 00:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Dissertations as references

I recently added some material to the article on Rachmaninoff's G minor prelude that cited a dissertation. When you removed it, your edit summary mentioned that there was some sort of frustration related to citing dissertations. I'm relatively new to Wikipedia editing and hadn't touched that article previously, and I didn't see any discussion that seemed to be specific to the article on the talk page. Have I missed something about the use of theses and dissertations as material for citations?

Thanks for your help! GJ (talk) 22:01, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Firstly, thanks for working on the article in the first place, your work is great, and I hope you continue. Dissertations aren't viewed as "reliable sources" because they aren't published. As in the article Six Moments Musicaux (Rachmaninoff), the same paper is cited often (see note 2), and as a result was rejected from Featured Article status, as seen at its candidate pages here and here.

Since that article is steeped in citations, I haven't bothered to remove them yet, but oddly enough the article would be judged more favorably if that information was gone. Just an early warning, in case you are aiming toward those statuses. ALTON .ıl 23:36, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

barnstar

Thank you very much for the barnstar and the kind words! Esrever ^(klaT) 16:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Roller Coasters Newsletter, December 2007

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Re: ROCO Newsletter

Amazing job on the Newsletter, it looks great. It is a pity the project has zero GA articles... ALTON .ıl 23:16, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Wow, I just noticed you single-handedly cleared the assessment backlog, well done! The lack of any GAs is slightly depressing isn't it! Mind you, there are a couple that are nearing GA standard, they just need some tweaking. What do you think of the B-class drive idea? I think it could help get the ball rolling on bringing the project up to scratch. Seaserpent⁸⁵ 13:17, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, although I may have caused more wrongs than rights since admittedly, I only read the criteria afterwards! The only ones I could think that I totally messed on were the RCT articles, but you sorted it out, thanks for that. I like it, and I'm sure with the type of editors we have it will be no problem. I just want to galvanize the project, mostly I see you and Tinned Elk doing everything... ALTON .ıl 20:19, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Go Global

awesome. Go GS. Decafpenguin (talk) 08:51, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Roller Coasters Newsletter, January 2008

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DYK

On 14 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Le chemin de fer, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Societal attitudes... map

Hi, your map Societal Attitudes Towards Homosexuality(Pew2002).png is very interesting, but are the colors used aren't very conducive to visual comparison. I find that maps that use a legend based on percentage are more effective if they use a color scheme that varies only in saturation/lightness and not hue (Railway size world map.PNG), or if in hue, only between two colors (World Map Index of perception of corruption nd.png). Consider revising the image, but that is your product and this is my opinion. ALTON .ıl 08:44, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, you're right. I'm pretty busy (studies) at the moment, and that may keep me from improving it for quite some time, but you're spot on: saturation/lightness would be a major improvement. --Zantastik talk 11:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation of "Steinway"

Hello Alton,

"stine" + "way", accent on the first syllable.

Opus33 (talk) 17:00, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Alkan

Apologies if I give the impression of being disparaging. (I was I confess deliberately so on one occasion, when you left an edit cut off in mid-sentence having deleted a list of pianists who played Alkan - but that maybe was an error on your part, and I shouldn't have taken you task agressively.)

In general, one shouldn't give references in French on English WP when there is a perfectly good (and more recent) source in English. As regards Lewenthal, he was in my opinion a better pianist than he was a music historian (and not too good a pianist), but in any case the Smith book is more recent, so my own NNPOV is irrelevant.

I certainly don't wish to inhibit you from editing the page and as you say there is a lot more that could be added. But I will feel constrained to correct assertions which appear to me to be incorrect or not documented, or are expressions of NNPOV. Between us - and with the contributions of others, as well - we will arrive at a consensus; - which is part of what WP is about. Apologies again for having rubbed you the wrong way. Best regards, Smerus (talk) 07:37, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Roller Coasters Newsletter, February 2008

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Time Zone Tip

Thanks for the correction. I appreciate it. Gryffon (talk) 23:13, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

DYK: Christopher Tin

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Speedy as superseded. ALTON .ıl 08:34, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Caption

File:Vleugels Florentijn Hofman 2006.jpg

To the occasion of the Internationaal Kamermuziekfestival 2006 at Schiermonnikoog, Florentijn Hofman had three six meter high grand pianos flush ashore.

Please make corrections as you see fit. Cheers! Siebrand (talk) 12:43, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Piano

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  Piano à queue moderne

220.135.4.212 (talk) 11:26, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:Request

Hi Alton,
I'll bear your request in mind but I'm not making an promises as I'm pretty busy at the moment and I'm not sure where I can get a suitable piano. Regards, --Fir0002 12:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment

Alton, thanks for your comment regarding my comment on the nomination of the Rachmaninoff photo. Sorry to be so negative, but I had thought that the photo lacked a "wow" factor as they say. It is nonetheless a fine fine addition to Wikipedia, and much needed. Thanks again, Oscar (talk) 19:40, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Taegukgi (film)

With regard to my changes to the article:

"a [[2004]] [[South Korean]] [[war film]] directed..."

to

"a [[2004 in film|2004]] [[Cinema of South Korea|South Korean]] [[war film]] directed...."

I understand your points, and I agree in part. I was following the examples of many other foreign film articles, rather than a specific Wikiproject guidelines. First up, the year. I've seen various guidelines over the time I've edited Wiki articles and yes, you're right, according to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links) the year shouldn't really be piped to "year in film". However, I've seen other guidelines that advise against linking year-only dates as 1) there are millions of links to the same years and 2) the article content has nothing really to do with that year. Following this guideline, 2004 wouldn't be linked at all, though the year's of the Korean war, if mentioned in the article, probably would. As there are such differences in people's preferences to date linking, I chose instead to follow what appeared to be the standard found in a huge number of other foreign film articles, rather than those guidelines. I expected that most people who looked at this article would be more interested in seeing what other films were released in this year than reading about 2004 in general. I recently saw that articles have sprung up such as Hong Kong films of 2004. Instead of linking to 2004 or a piped link to 2004 in film, some people piped the link: [[Hong Kong films of 2004|2004]]. On one hand it's better because it's more specific, on the other, it's even less intuituve.

As for South Korean, I agree, it should link to South Korea, and I've started trying to do this in other articles. But also, if at all possible we should try to get a link to Cinema of South Korea in that paragraph. True, we don't want to lose the war film link, so we have to find a way to shoe in both. Imagine trying to get in links to war and film in that opening sentence too! I am also seeing a lot of opening sentences with multiple piped links like this: "xyz is a [[Hong Kong films of 1991|1991]] [[Cinema of Hong Kong|Hong Kong]] [[martial arts film|martial arts]]-[[action film|action]]-[[comedy film|comedy]] [[film]].". Ideally the sentence would also contain links to Hong Kong and Hong Kong action cinema...

So, IMHO, the answer is to reword the lead section get in as many of these relevant links as is possible / necessary.

So instead of:

'''''Taegukgi hwinallimyo''''' (태극기) is a [[2004 in film|2004]] [[Cinema of South Korea|South Korean]] [[war film]] directed by [[Kang Je-gyu]] depicting the effect of the [[Korean War]] on two brothers.

We have something like:

'''''Taegukgi hwinallimyo''''' ([[Hangul]]:태극기) is a [[2004]] [[Cinema of South Korea|South Korean film]] [[film director|directed]] by [[Kang Je-gyu]] (see [[2004 in film]]). It is a [[war film]] set in [[South Korea]], depicting the effect of the [[Korean War]] on two brothers.

I haven't pasted that into the article yet, so feel free to do so, or edit as you see fit. Gram123 (talk) 17:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

RE: American Sign Language

I agree that parts of the article need cleanup, but slashing out important info and walking away is not the way to do it. BTW, do you have any fluency in ASL? If not, you might want to leave the major cleanup to those who do. ASL is very different than spoken languages. I've seen parts of this article butchered in the past by editors who didn't have much understanding of the language. Ward3001 (talk) 16:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Études-Tableaux

Read your comment from last November but thought due tot he time elapsed to respond here. I agree with you totally. There should be separate pages for the OP. 33 and 39 sets, not just for easier navigation but also because of the stylistic divergence between the two sets. Jonyungk (talk) 03:46, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Great, well it could be split later, I just don't want to bother people with the small articles yet. ALTON .ıl 19:50, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Classical Music Barnstar

		The Classical Music Barnstar
		A very belated recognition of your work in bringing Miscellaneous solo piano compositions (Rachmaninoff) and Six Moments Musicaux (Rachmaninoff) to Good Article status. Hope to see more articles promoted soon!
		Awarded by Centy – reply• contribs – at 01:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)	Unique ID #0005

Newsletter

No worries. Say are you still working on the newsletter? Centy – reply• contribs – 21:59, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, yes and no, but mostly no. It started as a grand ambition, but first of all I don't know how to execute the idea, and it seems like a lot of work for a little payoff. I would rather not have it go live if the talk page is sufficient for updating members on the projects, since all members should have it watched. What do you think, do we need it? ALTON .ıl 08:48, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Personally I agree that there probably isn't too much of a payoff from doing the newsletter. Everyone on the project does what they can at there own time. We aren't big or active enough, for example, to justify having more than just the talk page to centralise discussions. (I note that it took us over 5 months to reach lack of consensus over a merge proposal). Also looking at how the WP:MILHIST newsletter is done: there's a lot of stuff that we simply couldn't do in a newsletter. We don't get articles to GA/FA at a regular interval, we don't spend time with logistical things on WP:CM (apart from my AWB tagging - I mean we don't rate articles or hold competitions).

All this got me realising that there's very little we can actually put in a newsletter that's not already mentioned at the talk page. It would only be worth it if people stopped checking the talk page and needed a 'nudge' to remind them we still exist. Centy – reply• contribs – 11:51, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and removed it from the main page and marked the actual page as historical. I don't think other-party discussion is necessary because it was essentially my creation and no one else showed much interest. That's actually what I really like about this "group"; we can work at our own pace, and the way it works (without things such as "ratings", "article drives", etc.) is great. ALTON .ıl 04:26, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Translation

It means, "Do not forget your mother language/tongue." Serouj (talk) 11:18, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

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Wow. I didn't expect that question to be answered. It's been so long! Thanks for your help bud; I honestly appreciate it. ^LaPianista! 20:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

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Renaming of account on fr.wp

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I have renamed the local account "Alton" out of your way on fr.wp, but due to bugzilla:13507 I can't renamed your local account to your global account. So either you give up your one edit under fr:User:Tycho or you ask there to have your global account deleted long enough to finish the renaming. Regards, Blinking Spirit (talk) 06:15, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

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Speedy it. ALTON .ıl 08:04, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

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Speedy it. ALTON .ıl 08:04, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Prokofiev

Hi Alton, this is Livedevilslivedevil, the user responsible for more or less all of the OR in Prokofiev PC 2. I must apologise for my lateness. the simple truth of it is that I haven't logged into Wikipedia for a solid couple of months.

About Prokofiev. I pretty much agree with you, actually. I can cope with its deletion from the article, as I have got the whole thing saved in my private files anyway. What I have not got is a copyright, so anyone who appreciates my prose can do likewise. I suggest adding a deadline to the tag, announcing the date and time when you intend to do the dreaded deed, provided no-one argues convincingly against it. You've got my say-so anyway. July 10 2008, User:Livedevilslivedevil —Preceding comment was added at 18:32, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok. I will do it eventually, but I'll just "wait" a little to see if anyone "opposes"... ALTON .ıl 08:22, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Schubert's last sonatas

Hi. I've requested peer review for this article, as I hope to make it a GA (not FA as yet). Any comments would be welcome. Thanks. Gidip (talk) 12:07, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Added my comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Schubert's last sonatas/archive1. ALTON .ıl 08:24, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the detailed review. I would appreciate if you could find some time to fix by yourself at least some of the problems you mentioned - as it appears that you are rather experienced in the art of writing and phrasing. And please be bold. As for myself, I think I'm going to wait several more days for the reviews to 'gather up' and for the article to 'stabilize' a bit, before considering my own revisions and editing, based on other Wikipedians' remarks and revisions. Many thanks. Gidip (talk) 13:27, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. I was thinking you could pick and choose what you wanted to implement, but I'll do some of the more trivial editing. ALTON .ıl 01:17, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Sheet music excerpts

Too late, perhaps, I have noticed your huge contribution in engraving so many of these. My approach was simply to copy-paste from IMSLP (see the excerpts at Schubert's last sonatas). Does this create any problem of copyright, or is it legitimate? Thanks, Gidip (talk) 22:36, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

I doubt there's a problem, they're essentially the same thing. It was just a conformity issue for me (many of my PDFs coming from various editions). ALTON .ıl 05:01, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

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sheet music

Can you tell me which program do you use in order to create the score of works. I'm translating Rachmaninof's First Symphony and I would be great to add some more. Best wishes OboeCrack (talk) 22:20, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I use the disgustingly expensive Finale (software). There aren't many free alternatives, although you might want to check out GNU LilyPond, which is free, or Sibelius, a competitor to Finale. As pointed out above, we think it is legit enough to clip scans of the pdf score and include them in the article. ALTON .ıl 00:06, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Another more question: could you help us to improve the "Movements" section in the article, as you did in the Second Symphony, with images and a paragraph-long description? OboeCrack (talk) 00:40, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I might be able to since Winter break for me is coming up, but I'm not too reliable with wikipromises, so don't hold me to it. :) ALTON .ıl 03:16, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

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Speedy ALTON .ıl 05:36, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

File:Piano Concerto No. 2, I theme, Prokofiev.png

Hello, Alton. I thought I'd let you know that there is a typo in the file there - in the fourth beat of the middle bar, in the treble, the G octave should be a B-flat. Cheers, —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:29, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

You are scrupulous! Thanks. I'll get to it when I can, but in the meantime you may remove it if it bothers too much. ALTON .ıl 22:25, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I tend to be. :D And I have removed it, since scrupulousness is chronic with acute symptoms. Thanks! —a Pianista ^(T•C) 03:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Petition

Could you make a image of a excerpt of sheet music? The piece is the introduction (just 4 or 5 bars) of the first movement of Rachmaninoff's First Symphony. If you have Harrison book, its exactly as I want it: let me explain, two staves, at the 1st the winds grupetto and long D, and the 2nd the strings Dies Irae theme, catch it?. Help will be thanked! Link: [2] Thank you so much! OboeCrack (talk) 12:55, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I'll have it to you by the weekend. ALTON .ıl 10:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, better link the book where I found it, please do it as here. Thanks! OboeCrack (talk) 15:57, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to be anxious, but it is just to remember you! If you have any problem, doubt, etc. tell me, please! OboeCrack (talk) 23:04, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

File:Symphony No. 1, I intro (Rachmaninoff).png

I've got a file for you here. Let me know if there are errors or if you wanted the annotations. No worries about being anxious, sorry about being tardy :) ALTON .ıl 08:18, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Well done, I have used it in several articles. But see that in the winds second repetition there is a bow indication missing, in the C. OboeCrack (talk) 16:31, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Does that fix the problem? ALTON .ıl 01:43, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Perfect!!! thanks again!! OboeCrack (talk) 21:19, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

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Moments musicaux, op. 16

I am translating the article for my wikipedia (spanish), but I have doubts on its name. Why it is Moments Musicaux, in capital letters, and not Moments musicaux? And, Why it's not Musical Moments or musical moments (in english)? Should I translate it to Moments musicaux, Moments Musicaux or momentos musicales (in spanish)? OboeCrack (talk) 14:44, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't know actually. Someone brought this up before but I just looked through all the archives and couldn't find an answer. In Harrison he consistently uses "Moments Musicaux" (p 93, 4th line from bottom) and various products use both capitalized letters ([3][4][5]). I suspect in our (English's) specific case, MM has circulated as just a fancy title with wrong capitalization, and that has become the standard name. It seems similar to other, non-translated works referred to in English by their wrongly capitalized names (cf. Komsomolskaya Pravda). Additionally, the manuscript prescribes the Russian name, Shest' musykal'nyx momentov (naturally), but it is never referred to in this way in any English reference I've come across. So, it must be its "English name".

I would preserve as much as possible about this naming, but I don't know what the standards are in Spanish. I'm assuming Chopin's works were translated literally into "Study": Estudio Op. 25, n.º 12. But this kind of thing would be unacceptable here, where English tends to try simultaneously to preserve the foreign term while anglicizing it (preference for "Etude" over "Étude" over "Study"). I don't think a proposal to rename his Etudes as "Studies" would ever pass. I cannot advise really what to do in Spanish because I am unfamiliar with it, but for the reasons above I would advocate this particular orthography here at least. ALTON .ıl 10:51, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Also note that "Six" is also preserved here, as its French iteration, not English. ALTON .ıl 10:54, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Miscellaneous solo piano compositions (Rachmaninoff) is...

...also a good article in the Spanish wikipedia. Thanks for creating it! OboeCrack (talk) 16:53, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Wow! No, thank you for all your work on Rachmaninoff! ALTON .ıl 09:18, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

By the way, today I bought a Naxos CD with hystorical recordings by Rachmaninoff feturing Chopin's Ballade No. 3 and Piano Sonata No. 2, and Schumann's Carnaval. Its quality was quite good as from a 80-year old recording, and it was my first time hearing him playing works by other composers apart from himself. He was and is and will be an excellent pianist, he sounds like a full orchestra. I would like to have met him. OboeCrack (talk) 22:48, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Eh, I have lukewarm feelings toward Rach as a performer. It seems a little dry and technical—even though he should be the best interpreter of his works, I still prefer the more sweeping, romantic performances of Argerich and Volodos. ALTON .ıl 08:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi!

I am wondering if we could make Sergei Rachmaninoff a good article as he deserves it. It only needs to fix some things, such as references needed tags, and place more images. What do you think? Jonyungk may also help us... OboeCrack (talk) 19:49, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for occuppy your talk page. Do you have the piano solo part of the Rach 2 piano concerto? Please it is very importnat for me. thanks! OboeCrack (talk) 00:09, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

He certainly does and I would love to see that. I haven't spent much time on the major composer article because I feel the detailed pages "compositions" and "life" are easier to maintain, less prone to vandalism, etc. I would like to help, but given the workload I have I'll only be able to help with the most menial tasks at the frustratingly slow pace that you've seen me work at, for the next couple months at least. You'll see that on those two articles I pointed out I've worked extensively but recently have completely dropped off from editing lately. Jon is an excellent editor, and you may want to enlist the help of Kleinzach and La Pianista as well.

A gold mine for images is the repository of http://www.senar.ru/photos although there are some I and others have already uploaded at Commons Rach cat.

The sheets for Rach 2 can be found at IMSLP: here. If you need a paper copy for some reason, I do have the Dover edition. Don't worry at all about leaving notes here, it keeps me somewhat engaged in Wikiwork every once in a while! :) ALTON .ıl 08:24, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

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List of compositions by Rachmaninoff

I think you should present it to Features List. What do you think? OboeCrack (talk) 21:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

You know, that's not a bad idea. I just recently started summer break from uni, and I'll try to start working on Rach's pages again. I really want to figure out how to make it sortable, but also sectioned off. Any suggestions for that page? ALTON .ıl 01:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

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Rachmaninov's Suite in d minor

Hey, I noticed doing some (unsuccessful) searching around the net about this, that you started up a page about this piece at User:Alton/Work2. I'm wondering if you have non-easy to find sources, and if so, it mentions somewhere if this happens to be thought to be the same (or known to be) as the lost orchestral piece Manfred. It'd be a great help if I could find this out...but either way, it'd be great to have a page on this interesting piece. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 22:01, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Hm, that would be interesting to find out. I just have a Russian edition that has the manuscripts and some commentary. I'll check my sources in about a week (right now I'm out of the country) and get back to you. If you see anything at the UCLA catalog that might yield some information, let me know and I'll check out the material and look it up for you. (http://catalog.library.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First) ALTON .ıl 15:06, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

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I am user Alton and I am requesting usurpation of username Alton on es.wp, ca.wp, and mediawiki. ALTON .ıl 07:20, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

 Done@eswiki, regards. —df| 19:14, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Done at ca.wiki. --Vriullop (talk) 18:27, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you both. ALTON .ıl 18:28, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

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Interesting. Wiki has changed so fast.... ALTON .ıl 05:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

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Check es:Six Moments Musicaux (Rajmáninov)! If you have more interesting articles, let me know! Cheers! OboeCrack (talk) 00:11, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

It would be great to have the composer page a FA! Like Rimsky-Korsakov, Smetana and many other. Thank you too for writing them! OboeCrack (talk) 15:15, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

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24 Caprices for Solo Violin (Paganini)

Do you happen to have expert knowledge that could help this article? Brambleclawx 18:03, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

I wish I did. My area is more piano/orchestra music. ALTON .ıl 02:46, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

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Здравствуйте! Мне кажется во втором такте в левой руке ошибка - там должно быть "ми" без бекара. --A1 (talk) 14:36, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Ты прав! Я бы хотел проверить ошибку, но уже потерял доступ к программе. Кто-то наверно может использовать Фотошоп? ALTON .ıl 03:24, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

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