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This is a collection of discussions on the deletion of articles related to Africa. It is one of many deletion lists coordinated by WikiProject Deletion sorting. Anyone can help maintain the list on this page.

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Africa

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Challenger Limited

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Challenger Limited (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Sources do not meet WP:SIRS. Multiple issues tagged for years with no significant improvement. Was already deleted before by WP:PROD. Yet article came back without sufficient justification. Imcdc Contact 03:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Already PROD'd so not eligible for Soft Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Still no comments so far? Initially the article may look like it has significant content. However firstly a lot of it reads like promotional press release content from the company itself and secondly much is unsourced and even the references themselves do not meet the requirements.- Imcdc Contact 15:42, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Opperhoofden of Delagoa Bay

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This article is a unreadable mess discussing a list of holders of an unnotable office. -Samoht27 (talk) 04:08, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ireland–Mali relations

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The article is based on entirely primary sources. Fails GNG. Curiously the article says sources retrieved in Sept 2024 and March 2022 when the article was just created. This source is not indepth and this one is a small 1 line mention of Mali. LibStar (talk) 22:28, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Goldsztajn, you've tracked down all of these sources but you haven't stated what outcome you are supporting. Liz Read! Talk! 04:55, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Liz - thanks for the ping. I'd originally suggested redirecting to European Union Training Mission in Mali. I'm still open to that - but I was actually hoping to hear back from @LibStar who'd made the nomination and asked questions about sourcing, but not responded to what has been presented so far. Also, looking back at their comment: "relations are more broad than the European Union Training Mission in Mali, so oppose redirect." - which is not clear to me; if the sources at this point show that relations are essentially only related to the deployment, how can it be "more"? Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 05:46, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those bilateral relations articles that have been redirected are linked to Foreign relations of X article. So redirecting to EU Training Mission article seems to be an exception rather than the norm. LibStar (talk) 05:52, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And do you have an opinion on the sourcing I've cited? Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 10:53, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sources should be added to European Union Training Mission in Mali. LibStar (talk) 08:48, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Africa Proposed deletions

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Algeria

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Algeria Proposed deletions

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Angola

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Ana Coimbra

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We have here a good example of WP:BLP1E, a person whose purported notability is tied to a single event, i.e. a single beauty pageant event. There are three sources which are difficult to evaluate as a non-Portuguese reader; however, they note a) the pageant win and b) a couple of appearances at charity events in support of the pageant, including a (possibly public??) breast exam. This is way too thin to support the general notability guideline, and there are no SNGs that could apply here. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:02, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have bundled the above articles for the same reason, except that they have even less sourcing. ☆ Bri (talk) 22:36, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: I could find GNG in several sources of independent of subject. Check the Sout African here, I could find this, another by AngoRussia here, more here by Forbes Africa, also covered here in general. I could also stumble into this reported by subject's embassies in foreign countries. Again, you could not tag an article for AfD simply because it has less sources. That is the exact use of the template tags unless subject entirely has no traces of GNG. An article's sources being in foreign language other than in English is not a genuine reason for that. Otherwise, at very least, I would suggest redirecting it to Miss Angola, but then with pinged sources above, I go with keep. Hope the mentioned above can be used to sustain the article per WP:NEXIST--Tumbuka Arch (talk) 08:18, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rebuttal: The Opais link you gave here is already in the article, and I dealt with its thinness in the deletion nomination. The embassy link provides just three sentences on the pageant, one of which is about the judges and not the subject of this bio. The South African gives us a bulleted list of stuff in the pageant handout like birth place and star sign, but nothing of substance for a biography – certainly nothing that could be used to expand the article. The Forbes article says very little at all, but notes she has an afro, a red swimsuit, and an unnamed "social project", but nothing really about the person. AngoRussia, a single sentence mentioning birthplace, area of study, and country of residence, nothing more. These, like the original sources, are shallow and/or in-passing and tied to the single event, which just underscores this is a BLP1E situation. ☆ Bri (talk) 14:06, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
An award is not an event, that passes, it’s an honour, that remains, and BLP1E does not apply imv. The guideline does not mention awards, at least, unless I missed it, whereas ANYBIO does. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 14:12, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 17:21, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I had missed the fact this was a bundled Afd....my !vote was originally about Lauriela Martins. Coverage in Pt exists about her. Ana Coimbra: see above, now. Other: idem. So keep all. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 14:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 22:35, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. Check all articles included in this bundled nomination.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:57, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Cameroon

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Democratic Republic of the Congo

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Egypt

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Challenger Limited

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Challenger Limited (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Sources do not meet WP:SIRS. Multiple issues tagged for years with no significant improvement. Was already deleted before by WP:PROD. Yet article came back without sufficient justification. Imcdc Contact 03:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Already PROD'd so not eligible for Soft Deletion.
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Still no comments so far? Initially the article may look like it has significant content. However firstly a lot of it reads like promotional press release content from the company itself and secondly much is unsourced and even the references themselves do not meet the requirements.- Imcdc Contact 15:42, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Egypt Proposed deletions

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Ethiopia

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Solomon Etefa

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I tried draftifying the article, but it was moved back. I tried a WP:BEFORE search, but it failed. The sources in the article aren't quite formatted correctly. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 12:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is correct there is no problem with the citation or reference keep it up Pit09 (talk) 12:53, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ethiopia Proposed deletions

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Ghana

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Maryam Issaka Kriese

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Maryam Issaka Kriese (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article about an unelected political candidate, not properly sourced as meeting notability criteria for unelected political candidates. As always, candidates are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because their name happens to be on the ballot -- a person has to win election to an WP:NPOL-passing office to get an article on that basis, while unelected candidates must either (a) demonstrate that they had preexisting notability for other reasons that would already have gotten them an article as it is, or (b) show credible reasons why they should be seen as a special case of much greater and more enduring significance than other candidates.
And no, the fact that a smattering of campaign coverage happens to exist is not, in and of itself, a WP:GNG-based exemption from NPOL -- every candidate in every election can always show some evidence of campaign coverage, so if that were how it worked then NPOL would just be completely meaningless and unenforceable.
But there's no strong claim to preexisting notability here, and no particular evidence that her candidacy would pass the ten year test in and of itself -- even the campaign coverage is entirely a two-day blip of "presidential candidate announces running mate", with no evidence of substantial or sustained coverage for any other reason shown at all.
Obviously no prejudice against recreation after election day if she wins the election, but she isn't "inherently" notable just for being a candidate. Bearcat (talk) 21:12, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kenya

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Douglas Kuria

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Non-notable Kenyan businessman fails WP:GNG, WP:NBIO None of the coverage is WP:SIGCOV of him, it's all focused on the companies he works for or on his father, from whom notability cannot be WP:INHERITED. The last AfD resulted in draftification at the request of the page creator, but the article was returned by its creator to mainspace with no improvements, so I would not support that alternative again. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:53, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Libya

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Mauritius

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Morocco

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Mohamed Aarab

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Mohamed Aarab (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not sure how this passed AfC. Almost certainly a promotional hoax. All the sources cited in the article are dead and likely never existed. This "singer" doesn't have a single video/song on Youtube or any other platforms. There is 0 coverage of him, and I searched his name looking for both coverage in Arabic and French. Mooonswimmer 19:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. @Mooonswimmer Did you try searching in Arabic? I don't think it is a hoax as this link popped up when I searched using his Arabic name: [1]. He clearly is a real musician since his albums have a discogs listing. Whether he is notable is another matter.4meter4 (talk) 19:33, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On second look, I'm not sure this is the same artist. That complicates matters in sourcing content.4meter4 (talk) 19:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The musician in the Discogs listing is clearly not the 20-year-old Riffian singer-songwriter and producer the article is supposedly about. Mooonswimmer. Yes, I did search in Arabic. Nothing at all. 19:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Nigeria

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Mark Tanko

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No indication of meeting WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT with independent and significant sources. Geschichte (talk) 18:28, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mary Akpobome

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The subject of this article fails WP:GNG, WP:BASIC and WP:ANYBIO. She has not been discussed in reliable sources independent of her. All of the sources cited in the article are interviews she granted to newspaper outlets.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 15:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not even sure her husband is notable. Bearian (talk) 04:26, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oluwatumininu

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Page about a name, sourced to one unreliable (wiki) and very short source. I had redirected it to the one article for someone with this name, but this was reverted, so here we are. This AfD is to reinstate the redirect, not to delete it. This seems to be part of some major Nigerian project to have a separate article for every single Nigerian name, no matter the notability or the need for a disambiguation. Fram (talk) 08:21, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Díekolade

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No evidence of notability for this name. Fram (talk) 12:12, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gbolabo Awelewa

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Gbolabo Awelewa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable cyber security person whose notability is anchored on his scant analysis of cyber security reports written by different groups and organizations. All are passing mentions in routine media coverage Ednabrenze (talk) 06:20, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ondo State Youth Network

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Ondo State Youth Network (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article lacks significant coverage to establish notability. The sources mainly report routine activities or brief mentions, without showing the organization's substantial impact. Without stronger reliable and secondary sources, it does not meet the notability guidelines for organizations. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 21:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the above you referred to, I can't find an headline nor an endorsement from the PRO. That was just an opinion gathered from youths in Ondo State if you cross-examine the source I cited critically. By recognized, I meant the umbrella registered body for youth in Ondo State is OSYN and they serve as a bridge between youth and Ondo State Government as seen here and here. Kamoranesi90 (talk) 15:25, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I really don’t want this discussion to be more than it should be but when I said, press release, I am referring to this guide: WP:PRSOURCE. As you have shown above, the sources that validates the existence of this organisation are all press releases or are passing mention (see WP:CORPDEPTH). Serving as a bridge between the youths and the government is not and has never been a criteria for inclusion. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 16:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Per the subject played significant impact representing youth in Ondo State to meet WP:GNG Albakry028 (talk) 19:41, 8 November 2024 (UTC) — Note: An editor has expressed a concern that Albakry028 (talk • contribs) has been canvassed to this discussion. [reply]
  • Comment: It is very imperative I mention that two of these !voters who opined keep are clearly canvassed users. The author of the article has a very good conflict of interest they aren’t disclosing, and they are likely in charge of recruiting users to come !vote a keep. The first keep !voter made their last edit to English Wikipedia on 9 October 2024 and suddenly came to vote a keep at AfD on 8 November. The second keep !voter has never !voted in an AfD since they joined in 2021 until now, and have never done so again. I have gone ahead to tag the !votes. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. This particular youth organization fails WP:GNG and has not gained significant coverage in reliable sources to warrant a separate article. The Vanguard and The Nation sources are not independent of the organization. The third and fourth source cited in the article are not about the organization. Simply urging the governor of their state to address rising insecurity and appoint a younger running mate are not enough reasons to make this particular organization notable.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 16:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Um... Vanguard (Nigeria) and The Nation (Nigeria) are major newspapers in Nigeria. That's like calling The Washington Post not independent of the organizations it writes on. They are clearly both independent of the subject, and providing independent secondary news coverage of the organization.4meter4 (talk) 21:14, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: The COI oozing around this article (at least from my investigation at Wikimedia Commons), coupled with the fact that this "network" fails WP:ORGCRIT. I'm not seeing the substantial coverage required for a subject to have a standalone entry in the cited sources. A cursory search did not help either. Over all, fails WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:11, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have tried to ignore some comment you made here seeing how you and about three other editors had constantly insulted my person on the Wikimedia Nigeria User Group which I had endured, overlooked and dymystified for peace(I might take it up to the safety team later actually) but it seems you also have ulterior motive here and I have to speak up before other editors or administrators think this is true.
If you checked previous articles I had created in the past, while my major contributions are focused on Nigerian Projects, I don't have a particular niche I focused on. I am currently refurbishing Azaiki Public library while for the past two days, I have been cleaning up different articles. So what do you mean by COI?
I also put up a disclaimer on my userpage already to attest that I don't create article for anyone or any organisation which you copied recently and added to your own page. so what else do you expect from me?
I am honestly lost at what you meant by recent happenings on Wikicommon as I only have one account and I can't remember the last time I uploaded on Wikicommon. The last time I did was when I led the Project, Wiki and Health articles in Nigeria so what do you mean by happenings on Wikicommon?
If other editors are making disruptive edits on articles I created, how is this my fault or related to me when Infact Wikipedia and its sister projects are open to all? Please hold these individual responsible if these actions are not signed by me.
And if this article is too soon, then it's ok for it to be deleted, my overall goal is to document as many notable articles here as I see a lot of articles around Nigeria are still absent on Wikipedia. Tesleemah (talk) 02:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tesleemah I will drop you a message (of advice? for your own good?) when I have the time, especially as this AfD is going to probably close soon. Selah! --Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete. The sourcing here isn't as bad as some of the voters waging a war on coi editing are claiming. There clearly is some mainstream Nigerian media coverage on this organization such as in Vanguard and The Nation. However, in my opinion the sourcing just falls short of WP:ORGCRIT; partly because the majority of the sources are not sufficiently in-depth, and partly because they are chronologically too close together to prove long-term significance. Ultimately, I think this is a case of WP:TOOSOON, and the organization may become notable if there is one or two more pieces of WP:SIGCOV over the next year or two.4meter4 (talk) 21:19, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nigeria proposed deletions

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Nigeria miscellany for deletion

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Rwanda

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Rwanda proposed deletions

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Senegal

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Talla Ndao

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Having a career where he played 87 minutes in the Japanese leagues (22 minutes in the first, 22 in the second and 43 in the third), no notability is apparent. Quite the opposite, actually. How about the sources? It would require good sources for him to meet WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. The ja:wiki have some primary sources and a Gekisaka article that barely mentions him. web.ultra-soccer.jp have several pieces which is WP:ROUTINE coverage in my view. Geschichte (talk) 17:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Somalia

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Gelbis

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The only online source for this custom is a WordPress blog that published a piece on this one month before the Wikipedia page was created. I cannot find any other sources for this custom. Tooncool64 (talk) 20:19, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with nomination. Could find no source that would indicate the article is justified.Spiralwidget (talk) 20:30, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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South Africa

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Martin Coetzee

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Fails to meet notability and significant coverage criteria. Shrug02 (talk) 17:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sizwe Nxasana

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Unsourced BLP article, edited by possible COI editors and IPs LR.127 (talk) 01:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. A WP:BEFORE search didn't find many useful sources, aside from his resignation at NSFAS. Article also reads like a resume. Procyon117 (talk) 16:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. high profile South African businessperson. Passes WP:GNG with sustained coverage in multiple WP:RS. Former CEO of Firstrand bank and Telkom. These are some of South Africa's largest and best known companies (WP:WORLDWIDE) and he received a lot of direct coverage because of this. Article is not in great shape but WP:NOTCLEANUP. Coverage in WP:RS [2][3][4] (South Africa's highest paid banking CEO). Also includes negative coverage: [5][6][7]. More: [8][9][][10][11][12][13][14] ("Nxasana, who has been CEO since April 1998, has seen the company through a number of challenges, including the successful initial public offering on the JSE Securities Exchange, South Africa, and the New York Stock Exchange.").[15][16][17] His opinions were viewed as important by mainstream papers [18][19][20][21]. Here's some coverage by Harvard Business School, so he gets the Anglosphere tick: [22]. I can find more references if needed. Park3r (talk) 00:23, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Per Park3r. However, the article is in bad shape, voting keep without improving the article won't take us anywhere since someone might AfD it again tomorrow. dxneo (talk) 23:28, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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South Africa Proposed deletions

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Sudan

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎ to Sudanese civil war (2023–present)#United Arab Emirates as an alternative to deletion. voorts (talk/contributions) 04:12, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 New Way Cargo Airlines Ilyushin Il-76 shootdown

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2024 New Way Cargo Airlines Ilyushin Il-76 shootdown (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Per WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE and WP:NOTNEWS although notable at first sustained coverage died off quick. There has been no expanded reports on the incident. A crash of a heavy aircraft with fatalities under 10 has no notability in itself.

@ me in the below discussion when you comment so i can get the fastest response or see your comment ASAP. Lolzer3k 03:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Crashed IL-76 in North Darfur: Sorting through the wreckage". Centre for Information Resilience. 31 October 2024. Archived from the original on 11 November 2024. Retrieved 11 November 2024.
  2. ^ Dubrovsky, Andrei (25 October 2024). "Mistake or planned sabotage: What is known about the death of the plane with russians on board in Sudan's Darfur?". Afrinz. Archived from the original on 11 November 2024. Retrieved 11 November 2024.
  3. ^ Abdelaziz, Khalid; Levinson, Reade; Lebedev, Filipp (24 October 2024). "Exclusive: Plane downed in Darfur with suspected Russian crew was supplying army, rivals say". Reuters. Archived from the original on 29 October 2024. Retrieved 11 November 2024.
  4. ^ "RETRACTED: Sudanese paramilitary mistakenly shoots down UAE cargo plane". Sudan War Monitor. 21 October 2024. Archived from the original on 29 October 2024. Retrieved 11 November 2024.
  5. ^ "Mercenary aviation: Russian cargo planes helped both sides in Sudan's war". Sudan War Monitor. 27 October 2024. Archived from the original on 11 November 2024.
  • Keep: I believe this event meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines:
  1. Significance: The incident involves a military aircraft, and any military engagements resulting in casualties often have broader implications for regional stability and/or international relations. This particular event is noteworthy given the ongoing issues Sudan is facing.
  2. Media Coverage: There has been significant media coverage of the incident, which explains what happened in the incident thoroughly. Reliable sources have reported on the details of the event. Some citations which I easily found are here, here, here, and here that discuss the incident in detail.
  3. Aviation Context: This incident is part of a bigger story about military planes that have accidents in war zones. Adding it to Wikipedia helps people understand the dangers and problems that military aircraft deal with. Also, I don't think heavy military aircraft, like the Il-76, involved in shoot-downs is ordinary. They do have significant information.
Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 05:36, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Tanzania

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Abhik Patwa

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Abhik Patwa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails to meet notability and significant coverage criteria. Shrug02 (talk) 17:26, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ally Kimote

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Ally Kimote (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails to meet notability and significant coverage criteria. Shrug02 (talk) 17:27, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kassim Nassoro

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Kassim Nassoro (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails to meet notability and significant coverage criteria. Shrug02 (talk) 17:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tanzania proposed deletions

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Tunisia

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Garfi (surname)

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Garfi (surname) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Only contains one person with the surname. GilaMonster536 (talk) 22:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Uganda

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Lot Fire Records

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Lot Fire Records (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable business. Spam from blocked sock farm who built a walled garden. Lacks independent coverage about it, lots of PR placement which don't satisfy sourcing criterea, lacking independence. Wikipedia is not a PR platform. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:19, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related page that just reproduces content from the main page:

List of Lot Fire Records artists (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
duffbeerforme (talk) 03:23, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge all to Bash Luks and copy edit/trim for encyclopedic tone. While I can understand the need to cleanup after a sock editor with a coi, the referencing in this case is not bad. The articles use multiple reliable news sources from Uganda and Ghana where Bash Luks and/or Lot Fire Records are the primary subject. The Kampala Dispatch and Tower Post are reputable newspapers. News Ghana is a reputable news portal. Capital Radio (ie 91.3 Capital FM) is also reputable. There is certainly enough reliable secondary coverage to support an article on Bash Luks per WP:BASIC/WP:GNG. At this point I think Lot Fire Records would be better covered in that article because I don't think the record label as yet passes WP:NCORP. The list is small, and doesn't need to be a stand alone article.4meter4 (talk) 03:51, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Siizer

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Non notable musician. Spam from blocked sock farm who built a walled garden for Lot Fire Records. Refbombed with lots of PR placements which lack independence. Really not a good idea to try pass off the same press release as two different articles [23], [24]. "In the ever-evolving world of music, where talent is plentiful and creativity knows no bounds, there are individuals who rise above the rest, setting new standards and blazing trails in the industry. One such luminary is the accomplished musician and music executive, Bash Luks, ...". Obvious PR. Wikipedia is not a PR platform. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:24, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Off Ryine

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Non notable musician. Spam from blocked sock farm who built a walled garden Lot Fire Records. Refbombed with lots of PR placements which lack independence. "As Off Ryine continues to pave the way for the next generation of Ugandan musicians, his legacy as a singer-songwriter remains firmly rooted in the history and spirit of Uganda. Through his music, he has brought the rich traditions of his country to the world stage, earning accolades and admiration for his unwavering commitment to preserving and celebrating Ugandan culture." Obvious PR. Wikipedia is not a PR platform. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:26, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More Tyme

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Non notable musician. Spam from blocked sock farm who built a walled garden Lot Fire Records. Refbombed with lots of PR placements which lack independence. Really not a good idea to try pass off the same press release as two different articles [25], [26]. "In general, "Balage" is an awe-inspiring addition to More Tyme's expanding discography. It truly showcases their exceptional musical talent and artistic vision, making it an appealing choice for both long-time fans and new listeners seeking fresh and innovative sounds. The song serves as a testament to More Tyme's unwavering dedication to their craft, setting a high standard for their future releases." Obvious PR. Wikipedia is not a PR platform. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Across Mt. Wati

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Article about a film, not properly referenced as passing WP:NFILM. As always, films are not "inherently" notable just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass certain specific criteria to qualify for articles. But this just states that the film exists, which is not automatically enough in the absence of sufficient reliable source coverage about the film to pass WP:GNG.
Two of the three footnotes here, however, are just tangential verification of geographic facts about a mountain that features in this film's plot, which are not about this film for the purposes of helping to establish the notability of this film —and while there is one footnote that is about this film, that isn't enough all by itself, and we would need to see several sources about the film before it passed GNG. (It also warrants note that even the one footnote that is about this film was one I had to search for and recover as it initially just redirected me to the publication's front page due to an error in its URL — but for an article that's barely a week old because the film premiered a matter of days ago, that's not so much a "sometimes newspapers move their content to new URLs after the fact" issue as it is a WP:CIR issue.)
Obviously no prejudice against recreation in the future if and when the film has more sourcing, and I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with much deeper knowledge of where to find good Ugandan sourcing than I've got can find more coverage to salvage it with, but a film's mere existence isn't "inherently" notable enough to exempt it from having to have more than just one hit of coverage about it. Bearcat (talk) 18:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, new comments go at the bottom of this discussion, not the top.
Secondly, all pages on Wikipedia are available for other editors to "add content". But you still have to ensure that there's a certain minimum standard of sourcing present in the article right away, because articles have to meet a certain minimum standard of sourcing just to be allowed to even exist in the first place. And that minimum standard of sourcing requires more than one source about the film. Bearcat (talk) 14:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bash Luks

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Highly dubious notability. Sources seem to be all press releases and promotional interviews. Full of promotion (" Bash Luks is known for singing inspirational and advocacy songs" and trivia (a section on his own description of his tattoos). Bishonen | tålk 20:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Uganda. Shellwood (talk) 20:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Part of a promotional walled garden based on PR. Sources read as pure ridiculously over the top promotion. Not independent. duffbeerforme (talk) 02:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello duffbeerforme,
    I understand that the sources may seem questionable and not entirely independent. However, I'd like to clarify that I am an editor from Uganda, and those blogs are widely recognized and trusted within the Ugandan media landscape. Bajaj250 (talk) 19:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)— Bajaj250 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:12, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete looks like a potential notable musician except that the sources are from gist blogs and interviews, a further research for WP:BEFORE subject is not in verifiable in independent sources, hence subject fail WP:GNG Tesleemah (talk)
  • Keep. Are we looking at the same article and sources? Clearly passes WP:SIGCOV. Appears to be the primary subject of multiple by-lined articles written in mainstream Ugandan media. The articles used aren't blogs but newspapers and independent online media with editorial oversight. There's no reason to believe that the sources are A. not independent (they have by-lined authors who are journalists) or B. Unreliable (they are from publications with editorial staff). The fact that some of the articles go into trivial content like tattoos is not surprising. This is no different than an entertainment journalist writing about Cher's wigs, or Michael Jackson's nose. Celebrity coverage is often vapid in the press.4meter4 (talk) 23:12, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    4meter4 You are not identifying which you think are good here so I base this on your comment on the Lot Fire afd. First you say Kampala Dispatch is a reputable newspapers. Is it? A (admittedly quick) google search didn't impress me much on this magazine. Here one writer has five articles on him with overly promotional language. "The composition not only highlights the duo’s musical prowess but also showcases their artistic vision, appealing to both their established fan base and new audiences seeking innovative sounds. The song serves as a testament to Bash Luks and Off Ryine’s steadfast commitment to their craft, setting a commendable standard for their forthcoming releases." Looking at their entertainment section it appears he is their only writer. and He's praising Big Size Entertainment in glowing terms in September 2024 [27], how they are "championing local talent while highlighting the rich diversity of Uganda’s musical traditions." despite being shut down in 2018. Next came Tower Post. [28]. More than one writer but there does not seem to be many articles in this publication. Only ten in the last year, half being for Lot Fire artists. "The visuals are equally awe-inspiring, captured and directed by Almagic Uganda. The video showcases Jim Siizer relishing the breathtaking outdoor scenery alongside stunning models." "Through his music, Jim Siizer seeks to initiate a thoughtful discussion about the diverse attitudes towards homosexuality and the implications they hold in different societies. The song serves as a platform to address the complexities surrounding this topic, fostering a broader understanding of the cultural differences and social norms that shape these contrasting views." That's not independent journalism. Next News Ghana (of Michelle Tyson fame). [29] no byline. "His exceptional musical talent and unwavering ambition provide him with the necessary tools to ascend to the pinnacle of success." PR blurb. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Kampala Dispatch and The Tower Post have an editorial staff and a staff of independent journalists. Generally when we evaluate magazines and newspapers that is what we look for. Critical assessments can be positive; because after all they are the opinions of the critic writing the piece. Most small papers only have on-staff entertainment journalist/critic, so its not surprising they have the same author. You of course are free to disagree, but I would suspect that the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard would support that the articles are indeed independent given they have by-lined authors and they are local media with staffed editors and journalists. Best.4meter4 (talk) 15:17, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would love to see the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard tested with the prose from these sites. I'll order the popcorn, will I? Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 16:34, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:44, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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