Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

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This page provides a forum for editors to suggest items for inclusion on In the news (ITN), a protected template on the Main Page, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates. This is not the page to report errors in the ITN section on the Main Page—please go to the appropriate section at WP:ERRORS. Archives of past nominations can be found here.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

A blurb is a one sentence summary of the news story. An alternate suggestion for the blurb is called an altblurb, and any more suggestions get labelled alt1, alt2, etc. A blurb needs at least one target article, highlighted in bold; reviewers check the quality of that article and whether it is updated, and whether reliable sources demonstrate the significance of the event. Other articles can also be linked. The Ongoing line is for regularly updated articles which cover events that remain in the news over a longer period of time. RD stands for the "recent deaths" line, and can include any living thing whose death was recently announced. In some cases, recent deaths may need additional explanation as provided by a blurb; this is decided by consensus.

Tina Turner in 2009
Tina Turner in 2009

How to nominate an item[edit]

In order to suggest a candidate:

  • Update an article to be linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated).
    • Do not add sections for new dates. These are automatically generated (at midnight UTC) by a bot; creating them manually breaks this process.
  • Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under the "Suggestions" subheading for the date, emboldening the link in the blurb to the updated article. Use a level 4 header (====) when doing so.
    • Preferably use the template {{ITN candidate}} to nominate the article related to the event in the news. Make sure that you include a reference from a verifiable, reliable secondary source. Press releases are not acceptable. The suggested blurb should be written in simple present tense.
    • Adding an explanation why the event should be posted greatly increases the odds of posting.
  • Please consider alerting editors to the nomination by adding the template {{ITN note}} to the corresponding article's talk page.

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There are criteria which guide the decision on whether or not to put a particular item on In the news, based largely on the extensiveness of the updated content and the perceived significance of the recent developments. These are listed at WP:ITN.

Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news will not be placed onto the live template.

Headers[edit]

  • Items that have been posted or pulled from the main page are generally marked with (Posted) or (Pulled) in the item's subject so it is clear they are no longer active.
  • Items can also be marked as (Ready) when the article is both updated and there seems to be a consensus to post. The posting admin, however, should always judge the update and the consensus to post themselves. If you find an entry that you don't feel is ready to post is marked (Ready), you should remove the mark in the header.

Voicing an opinion on an item[edit]

  • Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.

Please do...[edit]

  1. Pick an older item to review near the bottom of this page, before the eligibility runs out and the item scrolls off the page and gets abandoned in the archive, unused and forgotten.
  2. Review an item even if it has already been reviewed by another user. Maybe the previous reviewer has missed a problem, or an identified problem has now been fixed. Piling on the list of "support!" votes may also help administrators identify items that are ready for promotion to the ITN template on MainPage.
  3. Point out problematic areas in the nominated article and, if appropriate, suggest how to fix them. If you know exactly what to do, by all means, go ahead and fix it as you see fit.

Please do not...[edit]

  1. Add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are usually not helpful. Instead, explain the reasons why you think the item meets or does not meet the ITN inclusion criteria so a consensus can be reached.
  2. Oppose an item solely because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is generally unproductive.
  3. Accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). Conflicts of interest are not handled at ITN.
  4. Comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).
  5. Oppose a recurring item here because you disagree with the recurring items criteria. The criteria can be discussed at the relevant talk page.
  6. Use the discussion section of an item as a forum for your own political or personal beliefs. Such comments are irrelevant to the outcome of a nomination and are potentially disruptive.

Suggesting updates[edit]

A posted ITNC item that needs correcting can be addressed in two ways:

  • For simple updates, such as updated death tolls in a disaster, linking issues, spelling or grammar corrections, or otherwise anything that does not change the intent of the blurb should be discussed at WP:ERRORS in the ITN section.
  • For more complex updates that involve a major change in the blurb's intent, that should be discussed as part of the current ITNC nomination.
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May 28[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Politics and elections


Comac C919[edit]

Proposed image
Article: Comac C919 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Comac C919, China's first domestically-built passenger jet, completed its first commercial flight from Shanghai to Beijing by China Eastern Airlines. (Post)
News source(s): https://apnews.com/article/china-comac-c919-first-commercial-flight-6c2208ac5f1ed13e18a5b311f4d8e1ad
Credits:

Nominator's comments: First commercial flight of a new airliner model N509FZ (talk) 14:01, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

May 27[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Law and crime

Politics and elections


2023 Astore avalanche[edit]

Article: 2023 Astore avalanche (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 11 people were killed and 13 injured in an avalanche in Astore district of Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera, Reuters, BBC, Fox 9, Gulf News
Credits:

 Ainty Painty (talk) 09:08, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support Seems like a decently notable tragedy that should be featured. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:46, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Actually, the article looks pretty bad. Oppose on quality. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:48, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Closed) RD: James Hartle[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Article: James Hartle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Twitter
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
 Count Iblis (talk) 01:38, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Twitter is not a reliable source. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:36, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Uh, I think the article has been updated, because according to the article, he's apparently still alive. Also, like User:Muboshgu said, Twitter is not a reliable source. For more information regarding reliable & unreliable sources, see WP:USERG and WP:RS. TwistedAxe [contact] 10:40, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Cannes/Palme d'Or[edit]

Articles: Palme d'Or (talk · history · tag) and 2023 Cannes Film Festival (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Anatomy of a Fall, directed by Justine Triet, wins the Palme d'Or at the Cannes Film Festival. (Post)
News source(s): AP NEWS
Credits:

One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: The film's article could use expansion (longer plot summary, reviews in the "Reception" section, more details on production...) Mooonswimmer 19:34, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

FC Bayern Munich wins Bundesliga[edit]

Article: 2022–23 Bundesliga (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In association football, FC Bayern Munich win the Bundesliga. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, RTÉ
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Bayern win on the last match day after Dortmund let the title slip with a draw against Mainz.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 18:08, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Oppose Stub with only prose in the lead. Otherwise, all tables.—Bagumba (talk) 18:13, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support once more prose regarding the course of the season is added. This year, it's never been so close in such a long time with the champion last being decided via goal difference over 20 years ago. Also, if we have blurbed the Prem, then this BL season is much more blurb-worthy as many decisions (Championship, Europe & relegation) fell on the last matchday. - CDE34RFV (talk) 19:05, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @CDE34RFV: As this item is already a regular at WP:ITNR to be posted, the only relevant concern at this point is the page's quality. Regards. —Bagumba (talk) 19:27, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Added season summary. Might need some citations, but at least we got some more text. - CDE34RFV (talk) 20:32, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose There's a perfunctory amount of prose in the lead including the wonderful "However, they bottled it ..." And then it's just table after table – sixteen by my count. And there's a year error – 2022 rather than 2023 – which indicates that this is just a set of tables cut/paste from last year. And there are no pictures – not even a Nike hat. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:15, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose There’s now a sufficient write up of the season but it is entirely unreferenced. Schwede66 20:36, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Seemin Jamali[edit]

Article: Seemin Jamali (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): DAWN
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Ainty Painty (talk) 17:25, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support Looks good to me. Fahads1982Talk --- 17:47, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Article is a stub. Schwede66 20:41, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Currently, there are only 196 words of prose. Please expand this stubby article. Too much materials mentioned in the lede should be elaborated in the main prose. The Career section reads more like the subject's Education section, with little on what she did in her career to earn her nicknames as mentioned in the lede. --PFHLai (talk) 09:15, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2023 Mauritanian parliamentary election[edit]

Article: 2023 Mauritanian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Equity Party wins a plurarity of votes in the Mauritanian parliamentary elections (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Today the elections ended as per previous nomination. It's a confusing system and top of that there are local and regional elections too. The parliamentary election article looks good though. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:36, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Weak support Well-sourced, but a bit too high of a table-to-prose ratio for my taste. Chaotic Enby (talk) 18:28, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose When I read an election article's lead, I should be able to understand the outcome or current status. That’s not the case here. So I go to the section "Preliminary results" and how much prose do I find? Exactly none. Article isn’t ready. Schwede66 20:55, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose for now Prose needs to be added to the "Preliminary results" section. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 00:00, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

May 26[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

International relations

Politics and elections


(Closed) Nagano attack[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Article: 2023 Nagano attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Japan, four people, including two police officers, are killed in shooting and stabbing attack in the city of Nakano. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian - ABC - WaPo - CBS - France24 - ABC (Australia) - BBC - Al Jazeera - CNN - LA Times - AP
Credits:
Nominator's comments: In a rare incident for the country, four people were killed by the alleged son of a local city councilman in Nagano, Japan. It's received notable international coverage - Knightoftheswords281 (Talk · Contribs) 01:21, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Unless something has gone seriously under the radar, this is the first mass shooting in Japan. Very sad, unfortunately makes it very notable. Article is short but fine. Kingsif (talk) 01:26, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose. It's received primary international coverage, which does not confer notability. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 01:27, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • It's just happened, what else kind of news coverage is it going to have. ITN doesn't care if the newspapers have had some time to think about how important it is to cover an event, we take editor opinion on that as long as reliable sources have been established... if "the news is contemporary to the event" was a good reason for !oppose, nothing would get posted on here ever. Kingsif (talk) 01:31, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Well then ITN is out of step with WP:N, and the latter takes precedence. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 01:36, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    If your argument is that the article does not pass GNG, you should take it to AfD. But it isn't an ITN argument, and N is not relevant to discussion here. Kingsif (talk) 01:40, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Articles also have to pass NEVENT, and that makes the issue if we're only getting a burst of coverage, then we shouldn't have an article on it. That's 100% a reason to oppose at ITN. Masem (t) 03:23, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It really isn't - this is getting off-topic, but I think it was a little irresponsible for you to mention NEVENT as a good reason to !oppose, as we can see it has already cropped up in !votes below even when the comments don't relate to the guideline (one being 'per others' and the other being classic OTHERSTUFF). I doubt "oppose per NEVENT" will catch on, but at ITN, if a bold article's existence is uncontested, we assume notability. If there are questions about the article existing, that is categorically not what ITN deals with, absolutely not a reason to !oppose - go speedy or AfD and the article can't be on the main page anyway, of course. Whether the news item is suitable for the box, a non-N kind of notable, is something to have an opinion on. But "I don't think the event is important enough for MP" (valid argument, and one that is clearly dominant in this discussion) isn't the same as "don't put it on MP because I don't think there will be future coverage". An unwritten "please do not" there I think. Kingsif (talk) 21:27, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    When editors create new articles on news events that do not clearly pass the GNG (which requires more than a burst of coverage) nor NEVENT, and nominate them for ITNC, it is generally bad form to AFD those articles while the ITNC is open and not clearly SNOWing against posting. So it is definitely fair game to question if the new article really meets notability standards as part of the ITNC considerations. Masem (t) 01:10, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    People keep responding to the "why don't you just AFD it" response by invoking WP:BEFORE, ignoring the fact that if an article truly does not deserve an article, it should be taken to AFD no matter what, regardless and in fact I would argue especially if its being taken to ITN, i.e, the main page. I find this argument rather silly, because whenever these noms close, these articles' existances persist and the people complaining about it not meeting WP:NEVENTS never bother to AFD it. - Knightoftheswords281 (Talk · Contribs) 05:40, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support after expansion. Fairly shocked from this incident. However, it could be slightly expanded more before it is posted. 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう!) 02:03, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Domestic violence, no evidence of international terrorism nor a scope to put it any more significant than other domestic violence crimes in other countries. --Masem (t) 03:24, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose on quality Article as of now consists of only a few short paragraphs, will change my nom to Support once article has been reworked to a better quality. TomcatEnthusiast1986 (talk) 03:33, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support in principle The death of the two police officers by shooting is what pushes this over the edge for me, rather than just a typical random act of violence (especially considering this Insider report from just a few weeks ago). As stated above, though, article needs work before it is mainpage ready. Curbon7 (talk) 04:20, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose per WP:NEVENT. There's plenty of outrageous events in the news like this. For example, a car rammed the gates of Downing Street in London yesterday, generating front page news. On the front page of the NYT this morning, there's an account of a woman being pushed into the path of a subway train. And so it goes. This is valid news but we're an encyclopedia and so should be covering such topics at a broader level, not reporting each incident. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:11, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose We apply a consistent standard for posting mass-shootings, that being of stand-out factors (racial/terror/other notable motivation/factors for the attack; higher number of deaths; and the place where it took place (commonplace or not)). I don't see the first two being fulfilled here and neither do I think the place alone makes it notable. Gotitbro (talk) 09:42, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Weak support Article needs way more work, but the fact that this is a gun-related incident in Japan is very remarkable. Japan basically has very little to no gun violence, the last notable shooting that most of us remember is probably the assassination of Shinzo Abe back in July 2022. Strong support in principle, but due to the current state of the article and the quality, my support will be weak for now. Once article is expanded, consider my support. TwistedAxe [contact] 11:06, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose per all above and NEVENTS. I've also removed an inappropriate updater name. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 12:03, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose – Article is currently not convincing me that this is suitable for posting. Currently, the aftermath section only talks about Twitter users calling it an "unforgivable crime." The "Incident" section is a bit confusing and it is possible that Masamichi Aoki is not as involved as they currently appear. Needs work at the very least. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:57, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose - Though unusual for Japan, this isn't important enough for ITN. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 14:04, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose - domestic violence isnt typically something that would be featured on the front page of Wikipedia. nableezy - 14:20, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • For the time being, oppose I want to see how the events after this play out before. This, along with the still fairly recent killing of Shinzo Abe, may be enough to spark a conversation in Japan about firearms. If it doesn't, I'd oppose. As of now, there's nothing stating I should oppose, but if there becomes a national conversation with guns, I'd support. TheBlueSkyClub (talk) 15:01, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose - Just as there are shootings in countries which have many shootings which nonetheless reach a level where we put them on ITN, there are shootings in countries where they are rare which nonetheless do not rise above the general level of crime reporting and should not be put on ITN. This case, though tragic, is one such. GenevieveDEon (talk) 15:50, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support seems strange to see Americans opposing this mass killing, when they routinely support the regular mass shootings in the US. Multiple killings in any country not at war is unusual unless it's the United States, so this is definitely newsworthy. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 23:32, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Because its domestic violence and not all that massive? Seems strange you support this and oppose ones with 10x the coverage. nableezy - 23:41, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • I support newsworthy items which might be in an encyclopedia in a hundred years time. Mass killings in just about any country other than Amurica are almost, by default, worthy. Your parochial little "one mass shooting every day" country is a disaster and shouldn't be ever used as a context for literally anything other than exactly how life shouldn't be. What an embarrassment. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 00:00, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    And just a quick question: while we have, on average, 1.5 mass shootings per day in the United States, where do any of them become relevant? Is it "the second biggest shooting in Texas on a Tuesday"? The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 00:02, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Do you see, on average, 1.5 nominations for shootings in America a day? If not, as usual, stay on topic here, as WP:SOAP is prohibited. Toodles, nableezy - 00:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @The Rambling Man: You should be brought to WP:ANI for that rant. What the fuck is wrong with you? This is not your soapbox. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 07:34, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Newsworthy (burst of news coverage) is not equal to notable (enduring in-depth coverage). We have to stress pretty much constantly that WP is not a newspaper, and we should be looking to events that clearly will have a long tail of coverage, rather than just those that splash across front pages for a few days and then are never heard about again. Masem (t) 01:16, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose. Tragic, but relatively small casualty event. DarkSide830 (talk) 02:25, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose If we don't post about the every-day mass shooting in America, why would we post about some small-casualty event in Japan? Article is currently still a stub, and just because it is a first, doesn't make it notable. Editor 5426387 (talk) 02:38, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose for the same reason that everyone else is opposing it, it's just domestic news. It's tragic, but not worthy of being posted in ITN. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 07:32, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

May 25[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

International relations

Law and crime

Science and technology


(Posted) RD: Denny Stolz[edit]

Article: Denny Stolz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American college football coach who won conference coach of the year at all four of his schools. —Bagumba (talk) 10:10, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Joy McKean[edit]

Article: Joy McKean (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian country music singer-songwriter and wife and manager of Slim Dusty. Known as the Queen of Australian country musicThriley (talk) 13:01, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Jerry Krause (basketball, born 1936)[edit]

Article: Jerry Krause (basketball, born 1936) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Spokesman Review
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:39, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Javier Álvarez (composer)[edit]

Article: Javier Álvarez (composer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Yucatán Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Avant-garde Mexican composer. Updated and refs well under way. Moscow Mule (talk) 20:06, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Typhoon Mawar[edit]

Proposed image
Article: Typhoon Mawar (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Typhoon Mawar (satellite image pictured) strikes the Mariana Islands and Guam as a Category 4-equivalent super typhoon. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, NBC, ABC, The Guardian
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Most intense typhoon of 2023. Interstellarity (talk) 17:31, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Weak Oppose for now. I say wait until the typhoon dissipates as the Mariana Islands and Guam aren't the only areas that are expected to be affected. Moreover, the total damages aren't known yet and no fatalities are reported. Additionally, to your comment "Most intense typhoon of 2023", that is way too early to be said. 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう!) 23:04, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    True but it d
    did reach 185 mph 1-minute sustained which is the new West Pacific record for May. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 13:01, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait. The typhoon is still ongoing and the damages currently known are very, very minimal. Plus, most of the typhoon's path has been situated within the ocean. I'm opposing if the damages are very minimal. TwistedAxe [contact] 23:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose Despite the intensity, impacts are run of the mill. It killed 2 people. That isn't enough for posting on ITN. NoahTalk 21:07, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Karen Lumley[edit]

Article: Karen Lumley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Redditch Standard
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former UK MP Karen Lumley Fahads1982 (talk) 12:25, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Ahmad Kamal[edit]

Article: Ahmad Kamal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): APP
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Fahads1982 (talk) 11:59, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Oppose Article is a stub, I've marked it out as such. Needs expansion and more sources & citation before it's ready. TwistedAxe [contact] 23:47, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

May 24[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Politics and elections

Science and technology


RD: Rolf Skår[edit]

Article: Rolf Skår (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Computerworld
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Norwegian engineer and entrepreneur. Oceanh (talk) 07:26, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Weak oppose Upon reading the article I was about to mark it as a stub but realized it's a bit too long to be a stub. With that being said though, it's barely past being a stub and the article needs alot more work definitely alot more citations. Once expanded, consider my support. TwistedAxe [contact] 23:43, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Cotton Tree (Sierra Leone)[edit]

Article: Cotton Tree (Sierra Leone) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Important national symbol of Sierra Leone, described as the country's "Eiffel Tower, Statue of Liberty, Big Ben" gobonobo + c 05:07, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Article seems of good quality? QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 17:24, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Support as a result - forgot to say lol QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 17:25, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support? Article seems fine, but can a tree count as a recent "death", or should this be a blurb? TheCorriynial (talk) 22:08, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism. Curbon7 (talk) 22:51, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Ah right. Forgot the "organism" part applied to RD as well. My bad. TheCorriynial (talk) 01:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support per above; article quality is very good. Therapyisgood (talk) 22:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Weak support Article is of good quality but could use more work and be expanded. I suppose it's ok for RD. TwistedAxe [contact] 23:44, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support. Article looks good. Could we keep the "(Sierra Leone)" part in the RD entry perhaps? I understand this is against precedent, but just "Cotton Tree" appearing in RD may confuse readers. DarkSide830 (talk) 02:40, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Posted No consensus for WP:IAR to display disambiguator.—Bagumba (talk) 15:38, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Norbaiti Isran Noor[edit]

Article: Norbaiti Isran Noor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.kompas.tv/article/409982/jenazah-istri-gubernur-kaltim-norbaiti-isran-noor-tiba-di-balikpapan-akan-dimakamkan-siang-ini
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Former MP and governor's wife. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 00:43, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) Blurb/RD: Tina Turner[edit]

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Article: Tina Turner (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  American-born Swiss Hall of Fame rock singer Tina Turner dies at aged 83. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: The Queen of Rock and Roll. Article is a GA. Curbon7 (talk) 18:45, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support RD, Blurb? She might be on the level for a blurb. Worth seeing what others think. Although RD, wise article seems to be fine. TheCorriynial (talk) 18:53, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Blurb Not wanting to disregard Jim Brown's achievements, but Turner is way more notable and globally well-known. It would be a nonsense if he was blurbed and she was not. Black Kite (talk) 18:57, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Filmography is cited to IMDB. I'd be in favor of removing it altogether, because most of it is documentaries or cited in the prose. On balance, support RD neutral on blurb. GreatCaesarsGhost 18:59, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Blurb Tina Turner was one the greatest singers of the 20th century, you don't get the nickname the "Queen of Rock & Roll" without a reason.--TheDutchViewer (talk) 19:01, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support blurb One of the most recognizable singers of her time, certainly a transformative figure in her field. Her death is currently the top headline globally. Davey2116 (talk) 19:07, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Blurb - just post. She was top field.BabbaQ (talk) 19:09, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support - Blurb blurb blurb, now now now! --WaltClipper -(talk) 19:12, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support blurb, as we normally would with a reigning queen. BD2412 T 19:13, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support blurb. Clearly meets the "transformative figure in their field" standard. Regards SoWhy 19:14, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Blurb I'm usually neutral on blurbs, but a GA? That's an exception I'm willing to make. The main page should be a showcase for high quality articles, and here's one of those for an internationally significant entertainer that's pretty much ready to go up right now. There's some excellent sourcing in the article, apart from a few spaces (the filmography, namely), but they are minor aspects of a whole that I assume will be ironed out before this posts. Doc Strange MailboxLogbook 19:14, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support RD, weak oppose blurb — Article is in fine shape and the subject is obviously notable, but not for RD. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:15, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Blurb - obviously, and would support it being posted sooner than later too. nableezy - 19:15, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Seems kind of weird to call her former American Swiss naturalized in the blurb, maybe just drop the nationalities entirely? nableezy - 19:29, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    She renounced her US citizenship, so it was accurate. Whether it still needs to be there is another question. Black Kite (talk) 19:38, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Oh Im not questioning the accuracy, it just feels stilted to write out in the blurb. If nationality has to be included, and I dont think it does as her Swiss naturalization isnt really relative to her notability, then just call her Swiss. But better yet, imo, just say Rock and Roll Hall of Fame singer ... nableezy - 19:41, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Blurb World famous singer with decades spanning career. One of the best-selling recording artists of all time. There was a film about her, which is one of criteria for blurb. Kirill C1 (talk) 19:15, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support blurb when IMDb, Discogs, Metro, and NYPost sources get replaced. Definitely notable enough for a blurb. --Vacant0 (talk) 19:18, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support blurb No question. Article is a GA as well. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:20, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support blurb there are a few films nowt sourced but the article is if high quality and explains her legacy to the music industry (with the obits, this probably should be ecpanded). --Masem (t) 19:21, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support blub Easy one, as others have already explained. Johndavies837 (talk) 19:23, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • 20 minutes in and this is going to be a pretty clear cut case for a blurb. Which I Support. - Floydian τ ¢ 19:25, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support blurb - To me is a no-brainer. One of the greatest musicians in history.--Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 19:34, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support blurb A genuine legend in the music world. The Kip (talk) 19:37, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Simply the best. Kirill C1 (talk) 19:40, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Posted blurb - Clear consensus to post. Using straight-forward blurb rather than one focused on birth nation and citizenship. - Fuzheado | Talk 19:39, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Post-posting support for blurb Musical legend who revolutionized rock and roll. NoahTalk 19:41, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • @Fuzheado: need to update the two blurbs now that Turner is pictured and not Koepka. nableezy - 19:50, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thanks for the reminder. Done. - Fuzheado | Talk 19:51, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Close - This is about as efficient as a death blurb nomination can get. We've got the blurb, we've got the picture, consensus is clear; now we can close this out. --WaltClipper -(talk) 19:52, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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2023 Mauritanian parliamentary election[edit]

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Article: 2023 Mauritanian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Equity Party wins a plurarity of votes in the Mauritanian parliamentary elections (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: I think the results are out just now, but it's a confusing system and top of that there are local and regional elections too. The parliamentary election article looks good though. May be suitable for ongoing? Any help is appreciated. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:34, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Wait - like you said, a bit confusing, but there apparently is another election on May 27, so we should probably wait. - Knightoftheswords281 (Talk · Contribs) 12:17, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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May 23[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Law and crime


2023 International Booker Prize Winner[edit]

Article: Time Shelter (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The International Booker Prize is awarded to Time Shelter, by Georgi Gospodinov and translated by Angela Rodel. (Post)
News source(s): NY Times The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: I believe the article is long enough to be considered. We could choose an image of the author, Georgi Gospodinov instead of the cover. ⇒ Lucie Person (talk|contribs) 05:31, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Needs voting) RD: Fusaichi Pegasus[edit]

Article: Fusaichi Pegasus (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: 2000 Kentucky Derby winner Blaylockjam10 (talk) 10:22, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Weak support Pretty thin but referenced and meets minimum standards. SpencerT•C 06:25, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Cotton Nash[edit]

Article: Cotton Nash (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 04:46, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Needs voting) RD: Jean Haudry[edit]

Article: Jean Haudry (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: French linguist, 88. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 00:38, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RD: Tom Sawyer[edit]

Article: Tom Sawyer (Ohio politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Akron Beacon Journal
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Ohio politician for nearly 50 years, 77. Death announced on this date. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 00:36, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support - A modern day warrior. His mind was not for rent to any god or government. Article is well-sourced, though obviously more prose in the "personal life" section would be nice. --WaltClipper -(talk) 13:49, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support, Former congressman and article is fine. Alex-h (talk) 19:23, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Unsourced lists and tables tagged.—Bagumba (talk) 10:37, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Robert Zimmer[edit]

Article: Robert Zimmer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.chicagobusiness.com/obituaries/former-university-chicago-president-robert-zimmer-has-died https://news.uchicago.edu/story/robert-j-zimmer-chancellor-emeritus-and-13th-president-university-chicago-1947-2023
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American mathematician and president of the University of Chicago. Sourcing is nearly there. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:59, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support Well cited, well written article. Good quality. Ready to post IMO. TwistedAxe [contact] 21:47, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Weak oppose There are 2 or 3 unsourced statements in the article, which doesn’t make this a strong oppose, but a citation should be added to those. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 10:35, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support, Article looks ok. Alex-h (talk) 19:16, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 10:10, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Closed) Ely riot[edit]

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Article: 2023 Ely riot (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Wales, local police are rumored to have been involved in an incident involving the death of two teenagers in Ely, Cardiff, leading to the injuries of 12 policemen and massive property damage in a subsequent riot. (Post)
News source(s): ITV - The Independent - The Guardian - The Telegraph - BBC - Sky News - CNN - The Times - LAT - WaPo - ABC
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Two Welsh teens yesterday were killed in a road accident. Social media reports falsely blamed the police, leading to a substantial riot in Cardiff. 12 officers were injured, a member of the public was attack, and property damage was extensive. The incident has been receiving coverage in the UK and also seems to be going transatlantic (see listed sources). - Knightoftheswords281 (Talk · Contribs) 16:33, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Rolf Harris[edit]

Article: Rolf Harris (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC, BBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Died last week, announced today. Anarchyte (talk) 12:11, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support Well cited article and well written - looks ready. TwistedAxe [contact] 12:31, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment Generally looks good; as I write there are three citation needed tags that will have to be dealt with. It appears an exact date of death is not yet known but that shouldn't be a reason to hold up posting.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:10, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support - Well cited enough for RD, exact death date will be revealed in time when reported by RS.LM2000 (talk) 13:19, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Article is well written and cited. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 14:51, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Filmography is sourced to IMDb, but it's not a reliable source (WP:IMDB).—Bagumba (talk) 15:40, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Article is in good shape. WP:Citing_IMDb is not entirely clear on whether it's appropriate to cite Filmography, based on my reading it might be ok in some circumstances. Let's compare this with Emma Watson whose filmography isn't cited at all, as opposed to Keanu Reeves filmography. Kcmastrpc (talk) 15:50, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Our purpose here is to evaluate whether the proposed target is of sufficient quality to promote to the main page; there is no proposal to promote those other pages at this time. IMDb has been deemed generally unreliable by the community. GreatCaesarsGhost 17:28, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Watson and Reeves are not dead yet. WaltClipper -(talk) 18:04, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • What do we do now? It has now been confirmed (via a reliable source, The Guardian) that he died on 10 May. The article has been updated. But that's a fortnight ago. Can this still be posted? HiLo48 (talk) 23:58, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    If the news of his death came out recently, then I don't see why not. Kurtis (talk) 03:03, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Recent deaths is for deaths announced in the last 7 days. Anarchyte (talk) 08:31, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    WP:ITNRD, which forms the guidance for how RD is to operate, specifically uses the date the death was made public, and not the date of the actual death, so this is not a problem. --Jayron32 16:59, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Filmography is now ~ 90% covered by reliable sources. Gaps for non-controversial credits are acceptable in light of length and quality of article. GreatCaesarsGhost 11:41, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Marking as ready. ITN nominations are based on announcement of death, which usually is the day of, but not always. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 18:29, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support - ...it's marked ready, and I agree. Jusdafax (talk) 05:51, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Article is in good shape. Still three {{citation required}} tags though. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:02, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support - I agree with the Ready tag.BabbaQ (talk) 07:21, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support Looks alright. Ollieisanerd (talkcontribs) 16:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support, Article is fine. Alex-h (talk) 16:44, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Posted Stephen 01:05, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: David Brandt[edit]

Article: David Brandt (farmer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): OCJ
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Pioneering no-till farmer, and a internet meme. The article could do with some work, but from what I see, there isn't much to change. Mobius Gerig (talk) 01:08, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Weak support Article needs a bit of polishing, other than that it's okay. GodzillamanRor (talk) 02:08, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support Pretty notable, he has been apart of the meme culture for quite a while. TwistedAxe [contact] 10:58, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • @Twistedaxe Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD. Please focus on the quality of the article, not the notability of the subject. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 15:13, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Quality looks just fine, I was just pointing out the obvious due to there being a WP:GNG tag, which I decided to counter here. I'm sure @Editor 5426387 also used it in the same context as me to provide more insight and context. TwistedAxe [contact] 17:03, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support notable guy, not really as a farmer, but as a memer. The article needs some polishing, but this guy is notable enough to be on RD.Editor 5426387 (talk) 11:57, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Editor 5426387: Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD." Please stop using notability for a reason to either !support or !oppose ITNRD nominations. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 15:09, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support The article ain't much, but it's honest work! Chaotic Enby (talk) 16:19, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support. What a legend. RIP. DarkSide830 (talk) 16:54, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Posted. Anarchyte (talk) 14:15, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime


RD: Sarath Babu[edit]

Proposed image
Article: Sarath Babu (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Popular Telugu and Tamil actor. Article is expanded now Abishe (talk) 07:49, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support Huge table at the end of the article, but other than that the article is well cited. TwistedAxe [contact] 23:19, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose The 'huge table' is entirely unsourced. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 01:52, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • After the 'huge table', the smaller tables and bullet-points also need more sources. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 03:03, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) RD: Ray Stevenson[edit]

Article: Ray Stevenson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Lots of CN tags that need to be covered. Entirely unsourced filmography. Mooonswimmer 18:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mahdia school fire[edit]

Article: 2023 Mahdia school fire (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Guyana, 19 children are killed in a fire at a secondary school dormitory in the municipality of Mahdia. (Post)
News source(s): NYT - ABC - CNN - Reuters - Al Jazeera
Credits:

Nominator's comments: 20 students were killed in a fire in Guyana. The article is currently stubby; I'll try to add more info if I have time. - Knightoftheswords281 (Talk · Contribs) 16:32, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Would support in principle and the proposal is fine but single line articles should be avoided as noms (even if stubs are proposed an expectation of at least a few paras is there). Gotitbro (talk) 16:48, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Neutral on notability but strong Oppose on article quality for now. It's barely a stub. Chaotic Enby (talk) 17:56, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Opppose on quality. Consider my vote to be a support once the article is expanded. estar8806 (talk) 20:11, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose quality just sucks. like kip, i'll reconsider when it's expanded. TheBlueSkyClub (talk) 21:35, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Horrifically bad quality; articles contains only 180 words of prose, and to top it all off, it's a stub with 7 sources. Not good. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 21:42, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose. Poor quality article and I'm not convinced this meets Wikipedia's notability requirements. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 21:43, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose on quality. Unfortunately a stub article and I don't think it'll get expanded much. If, by some miracle, this article gets expanded and is well cited, I'll be supporting. TwistedAxe [contact] 22:53, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose for now. Still a stub. It could be expanded more. 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう!) 01:32, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support A new section "Investigation" has just been added. The article is no longer a stub. Nothing mind-blowing but with 19 fatalities, it should meet the ITN criteria. Note I've copy-edited the blurb and changed "at least 20" to "19". Schwede66 08:00, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support,The article looks ok now. Alex-h (talk) 16:40, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Pinging @Layah50, @The Kip, @TheBlueSkyClub, @Fakescientist8000, @Thebiguglyalien, @Twistedaxe in light of the recent expansion. - Knightoftheswords281 (Talk · Contribs) 01:12, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
320 words, with 17 sources. This is still not good enough quality for the Main Page, and I could barely see this getting by ITNRD standards. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 01:16, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Unfortunately I'm inclined to agree with @Fakescientist8000 here, the article still isn't long enough and it's barely long enough to even escape being a stub article. Needs alot more work before it's ready. TwistedAxe [contact] 10:57, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Same here. Agree with @Fakescientist8000's statement. 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう!) 14:18, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Still not enough, I have to say. I'm with @Fakescientist8000, sadly. TheBlueSkyClub (talk) 14:54, 26 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support. Reaching SNOW territory here, but I think the article is good enough. Yes it is short, but the event is significant and the article is well-sourced. DarkSide830 (talk) 02:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Politics and elections


(Posted) RD: C. Boyden Gray[edit]

Article: C. Boyden Gray (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/21/obituaries/c-boyden-gray-dead.html
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American politician. Almost ready aside from some minor citation issues. Onegreatjoke (talk) 02:20, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Posted) Brooks Koepka wins 2023 PGA Championship[edit]

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Article: 2023 PGA Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Golf, Brooks Koepka (pictured) wins the 2023 PGA Championship. (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
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Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: PGA Championship is a recurring ITN, so as long as the article is fine, and a photo of Brooks is cropped, it should be good enough to post. TheCorriynial (talk) 00:43, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Brooks Koepka 2019 PGA.jpg
  • Comment - Nothing like some good old Nike product placement splashed on the Main Page. Although I'm not in favor of removing a good picture if it works, I definitely understand the complaints of other editors who say it's problematic. This particular example is pretty blatant. --WaltClipper -(talk) 17:12, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Good point. WaltCip is talking about the picture which was first nominated (right). That didn't seem to be a good picture and so I replaced it with FILE:Brooks Koepka, 2019 PGA Champion.jpg which is the image in the nomination template now. That image has the PGA as a background, which seems more appropriate than a shoe company. And the trophy looks cool. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:47, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    As the poster, I chose the right one as it seemed in line with what I thought is the general ITN practice to prefer a portrait, cropped if needed, which was also in the nom: ...and a photo of Brooks is cropped... I otherwise have no preference, nor issue if a new consensus forms about the pic. —Bagumba (talk) 06:17, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Brooks Koepka, 2019 PGA Champion (cropped).jpg
    I've cropped a version with the trophy (no water brand endorsement either). Would not get as good a view of his face still.—Bagumba (talk) 08:34, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@WaltCip, @Andrew Davidson, @Bagumba, this seems very much like a non-issue, especially with how limited our supply of images are due to our copyright policy. Are we finna not feature Formula 1 player in the future because their uniforms are essentially walking billboards? In fact, judging by WaltCip's I definitely understand the complaints of other editors who say it's problematic, I'm assuming that this "issue" has been raised in the past. Personally, this just seems like that recent referendum on Jimbo's arbcom powers - a solution in search of a problem. Lead images for both ITN and articles should be selected on how well they depict the subject, hence why his article still retains the first image. You can argue about WP:POV and WP:NOTADVERT, but I can twist the POV argument the other way, and say that via actively removing product placement, we're being biased against these companies and with advertising, I really doubt that that a Nike hat in one image is equivalent to puffed up nonsense to make readers buy shit, especially considering Commons' comparatively loose attitudes regarding neutrality. All in all, oppose removal of current image. - Knightoftheswords281 (Talk · Contribs) 13:57, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm not here to argue about POV, I just think the photo was taken and set up with the express purpose of advertising Nike, and they succeeded. WaltClipper -(talk) 14:35, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose change of picture per Knigtoftheswords. The current one is clearly the best pic available. And the "promotion" angle is a non-argument IMHO. Just as we don't deliberately advertise companies, we don't deliberately not advertise them either.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:13, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I meannnn, yeah the alternate isnt from this year, but its from this tournament, and could add to the blurb saying (pictured from his win in 2019) which makes it marginally more interesting as well. I dont care about the nike bit, he wearing the same hat (i think) in both. nableezy - 16:08, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(Closed) 2023 Greek legislative election[edit]

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Article: May 2023 Greek legislative election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Greek legislative election, ruling New Democracy (leader Kyriakos Mitsotakis pictured) wins the most seats in the Hellenic Parliament. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
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Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: ITN/R, ND declared victors although they will call for snap elections as they want a majority. BastianMAT (talk) 20:51, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait to see what happens after, due to the results being very uncertain. It's still very early to say anything - otherwise I'd support posting this. TwistedAxe [contact] 21:02, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait a day or two to see full results, then support posting. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 21:50, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment: It seems like ND did not win a majority in the Hellenic parliament, and it seems like a second round/snap election might be imminent. TwistedAxe [contact] 08:33, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait If what the nom says is correct and snap elections are likely to be called then no oupose is served by posting this now. Gotitbro (talk) 16:01, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Snap elections won’t be for at least another month or two, however. The Kip (talk) 18:46, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Wait for...? what we have to wait for is to see the cn tags fixed, and prose added to the results section and expand the one in the Aftermath section. The results are official and we are not soothsayers to speculate whether or not there will be snap elections. However, this does not mean that this nomination is correct, as they are per se ITNR situations independently. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:40, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment II: I say we close this and re-nominate this once the second Greek election rounds are over, as multiple sources, such as Reuters[3] and Euronews[4] suggest that a second Greek election round is very likely, due to Mitsotakis not securing a majority in the Hellenic Parliament. It's too uncertain to say right now who will win, as it is a very close race between ND and the opposition. Also, I'd like to add in that this nom is a WP:CRYSTAL. TwistedAxe [contact] 23:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    This is not exactly how it works. _-_Alsor (talk) 22:20, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    The elections are due in June, which means that all of the previous noms in May will be archived, so what is the point of keeping this nom open? TwistedAxe [contact] 23:23, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    The completed election processes are indivudally and independently ITN-worthy. Whether or not there is an electoral rerun in a short space of time. This conclusion was reached some time ago. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:02, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I've never heard about this. If you'd be kind to link the conclusion, that would be appreciated. With practically every election we nominate for ITN, we always wait for the final results to come out. TwistedAxe [contact] 11:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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(Closed) 49th G7 summit[edit]

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Article: 49th G7 summit (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The 49th G7 summit (G7 leaders pictured), held at Hiroshima, concludes on 21 May. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.wionews.com/videos/curtains-close-on-49th-g7-summit-in-hiroshima-594820
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The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: Nominating this here mainly because I saw that G7 Summits are somehow listed at ITNR here. So take that for what you will. I'm not too sure how to word the blurb for this though. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:00, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Article is nowhere close to quality to post - too many tables and pictures and very little prose. Further, we typically are looking for significant resolutions or other decisions that should have wide-ranging effects. That they simply met without any roadmap for future change is not really appropriate for us. --Masem (t) 17:13, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose on quality - was finna nominate this myself, and as such have seen the pitiful state of the article. Upon fixing, it should be posted; nowhere in the G7's entry on WP:ITNR does it list that the summit ought to have significant resolutions or other decisions that should have wide-ranging effects (which would largely destroy the purpose of an ITNR listing anyway). - Knightoftheswords281 (Talk · Contribs) 18:01, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose for now The article is mostly tables & lists. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 18:42, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Not really a huge notable event and article mostly contains tables and such (very little prose). TwistedAxe [contact] 21:00, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    The G7 summit is listed as ITNR, which means that significance is presumed. - Knightoftheswords281 (Talk · Contribs) 01:28, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Oh okay, didn't know that. Thanks for the info, cheers! TwistedAxe [contact] 06:41, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose That doesn't look like an article in the correct shape to be on the front page. Chaotic Enby (talk) 23:41, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose not really ITN-worthy, it's just a meeting, and the article contains little more than charts. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:39, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    ITN/R, so significance is assumed with this. TheBlueSkyClub (talk) 14:55, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose article quality isn't there. i'll reevaluate article quality later. i do expect it to get better since there's a sea of opposes, here. TheBlueSkyClub (talk) 14:58, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Cheers to Onegreatjoke for bringing this out from ITNR obscurity. I wonder how many items like this languish in there which have not been posted in a while or whose notability does not seem apparent now. Gotitbro (talk) 16:04, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose on significance per TwistedAxe, Kiril and 5426387, I really just don't feel this is an altogether significant event; the meaningfulness is now quite diminished than from years past. We're not providing a service to our readers through the inclusion of the summit. This item has been proposed for removal from ITN/R on WT:ITN. --WaltClipper -(talk) 20:25, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose per above. I've !voted to remove from ITN/R, and there's no particular reason to post this one.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:37, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose and remove from ITNR. nableezy - 23:51, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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(Closed) Bakhmut taken by Russian forces[edit]

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Article: Bakhmut (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Russia officially claims capture of Bakhmut (pictured) from Ukraine. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Russia claims it has captured the city of Bakhmut (pictured).
News source(s): NBC News, The Guardian, CNN, Reuters (via MSN)
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 Jalapeño (talk) 11:19, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose and please close this before it turns into unproductive discussion that wastes time. We keep the ongoing item for a reason.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:46, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Close just close just close and stop listening to those people. --Ouro (blah blah) 11:59, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose and closing immediately Probably not a good idea to listen to Russia and Prigozhin. Twistedaxe (talk) 13:00, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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